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Captivate Froyo Leak

As we are aware that there has been a official Froyo release for the captivate. Ive done some reading and cannot find conclusivly if things have been fixed as this may well be a good view of what the international version will look like.
The questions i have is
1. Is the GPS fix a completed fix and all is now well with teh gps.
2. Is JIT enabled and does it improve the speed.
3. Is the lag issue no gone or will we need to do a lag fix.
4. What other improvements are there? and whats not fixed?
Cheers guys if anything this will allow us to discuss the leak from our i9000 point of view.

You know there's a thread for this in the Captivate forums, right?
To save you some time, here's what I've gathered from the mammoth thread:
immyh said:
The questions i have is
1. Is the GPS fix a completed fix and all is now well with teh gps.
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Some claim that the GPS is working better. Some also claim that it hasn't made much difference.
2. Is JIT enabled and does it improve the speed.
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JIT is enabled but the software hasn't been optimised for the SGS' processor yet.
3. Is the lag issue no gone or will we need to do a lag fix.
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According to some, there is less lag. But as with the GPS fix some are still claiming that there is still lag.
4. What other improvements are there? and whats not fixed?
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See this article and this xda-developers thread.

thanks for the update but i had seen those and like you mention its a mixed bag so i just wanted to get an overall feel of what the version is like as alot of people complain endlessly and they seem to be the ones posting well as the ones that are happy post less as they have nothing to complain about.

immyh said:
thanks for the update but i had seen those and like you mention its a mixed bag so i just wanted to get an overall feel of what the version is like as alot of people complain endlessly and they seem to be the ones posting well as the ones that are happy post less as they have nothing to complain about.
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It is unlikely that lag has been fixed as Samsung is still using the RFS file system. The problem with the lag is that it gets worse over time so even those claiming they have no lag immediately after installing new ROM will probably get it after a few days.
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GPS is definitely NOT fixed.

Leaked FROYO on Captivate - excellent so far
ATT Captivate
One of the pre-Nov 6, 2010 Korean machines - and, yes, it has had the random turn-off issue both pre and after upgrade to FROYO.
Use LauncherPro for the Home Screen.
Used SuperOneClickv1.7-ShortFuse to root.
Working around the random turn-off with NoBars app - we'll see if it works.
RESULTS:
Phone is WAY faster than 2.1
GPS works fine
Good new additions and look in Settings
Apps I use simply do NOT FORCECLOSE! ...like some did incessantly with 2.1
Of course, voided warranty, but phone is now fast, stable, and seems to be much more reliable.
Andrew
Orlando

ATT Captivate FROYO update re random shut-down....
Well, I know there are threads about this - ones I've seen are closed.
So, a quick update just in case anyone finds this useful:
The random shut down continued, despite NoBars app.
Installed APN OnOff. Turned it ON, disabling 3G/EDGE/GPRS, and after 3 hrs, no turning off. Turned it APN back off, and noticed the screen would go blank, and I could bring it back by pressing power button without then having to enter my security code, every time something accessed 3G/EDGE/GPRS. Put phone into standby - shut itself down within 10-15 mins.
Solution I am trying: following above I went into sync settings and disabled Background Data, and Auto-sync. So far so good - no shut down.... if it does, it does look like the APN OnOff app will prevent this, you'd just have to turn it off when needing to use the 3G/EDGE/GPRS.
Andrew
Orlando

Andy Rubin's Xoom prototype

http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/14/...-posted?icid=sphere_blogsmith_inpage_engadget
I watched this video back in December when it was released, didn't think much of it recently but had a look at it again this morning to see if it was a Xoom prototype. From what I can tell, it is. What I found most interesting is the app tray fly-in smoothness.
Obviously, this was a development unit shown 4 months before the actual release, so it is not terribly relevant to compare my Xoom with his, but I can't help but wonder why the app tray fly-in looks so much smoother on an early device than it does on a production- ready model (albeit not fully polished). Couple of possibilities:
1. The smoothness is simply a result of the video quality, and a higher rez version on a larger screen may allow me to see the fly-in is as chopp as what I've noticed on production models.
2. Rubin's prototype is super-overclocked and thoroughly optimized to be as smooth as possible in order to not look clunky during its first public appearance.
3. This prototype is working in a non-mobile environment, without any added services used by carrier networks. No use by 3g chip and no background services to support data or voice connectivitt.
Thoughts?
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2 and 3
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androidlurker said:
3. This prototype is working in a non-mobile environment, without any added services used by carrier networks. No use by 3g chip and no background services to support data or voice connectivity.
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Oh Christ Jesus that SO doesn't matter! Have you ever run "ps" or "logcat" while doing that?!
I have 96 apps loaded on my device. I suspect that as you run thru the screens, it's gotta render each icon in-place. I don't believe for a minute that's going to be fast every time.
I've had co-workers "rate" my Xoom by how quickly the icons swipe in the App Screen, and I look at them like they're ****in' crazy. NEVER MIND the fact that the tablet is fast as hell and does 95% of what I want it to well, they say "it doesn't swipe quickly".
WGAS?!!

"Fast as hell" does not describe the Xoom.
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kcrudup said:
I've had co-workers "rate" my Xoom by how quickly the icons swipe in the App Screen, and I look at them like they're ****in' crazy. NEVER MIND the fact that the tablet is fast as hell and does 95% of what I want it to well, they say "it doesn't swipe quickly".
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And therin lays the reason apple is so sucsesful. They would by far reduce features and only include features that are refined and work than throw everything in, and even give the possibility to developers to affect the experiance.
So in Android you can change your keyboard, you can edit an MP3 with multiple software and then use it as a ring tone ...
in the iPhone ... you cant

MikeyMike01 said:
"Fast as hell" does not describe the Xoom.
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trololololololol.

jondwillis said:
trololololololol.
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It's infuriating slow.
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MikeyMike01 said:
It's infuriating slow.
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You're infuriatingly trollish.
The xoom is not slow.
Sent from my Xoom using XDA Premium App

MikeyMike01 said:
It's infuriating slow.
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Why don't you post a video demonstrating this so we can see how infuriating slow it really is?

That is one thing no one has actually done^

Eclair~ said:
That is one thing no one has actually done^
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True. I posted this with Launcher Pro and Live Wallpaper and it is totally acceptable to me. Give the fact that Launcher Pro is not even optimized for Honeycomb. seems acceptable to me:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiZ5EmP8h_o
I challenge anyone complaining to post your own demonstrating the lag.
I made this video using my Captivate and Mike's own ROM so there is not reason he cannot do the same. Instead of posting one sentence with no evidence, why not show us?

MikeyMike01 said:
It's infuriating slow.
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You must be doing something wrong. Mine only gets slow when I'm developing over ADB (I think it is a bug, actually..) and when I'm using flash sometimes. A reboot fixes the temporary slowness without fail. I might just be lucky and have a nice unit, since my linpack score is in the top 50 after using the stock kernel OC'd to 1.5 GHz.
But I'm sick of seeing this M of yours attached to whiney posts all over these forums. Please, either figure out how to fix your DEVELOPER TABLET or go complain in some NON-DEVELOPER forums where some lucky CONSUMERS might actually get some value out of the dribble you type.
Better yet, return your Xoom, it is clearly not the right tablet for you.

jondwillis said:
You must be doing something wrong. Mine only gets slow when I'm developing over ADB (I think it is a bug, actually..) and when I'm using flash sometimes. A reboot fixes the temporary slowness without fail. I might just be lucky and have a nice unit, since my linpack score is in the top 50 after using the stock kernel OC'd to 1.5 GHz.
But I'm sick of seeing this M of yours attached to whiney posts all over these forums. Please, either figure out how to fix your DEVELOPER TABLET or go complain in some NON-DEVELOPER forums where some lucky CONSUMERS might actually get some value out of the dribble you type.
Better yet, return your Xoom, it is clearly not the right tablet for you.
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Thank you for agreeing with me.
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MikeyMike01 said:
Thank you for agreeing with me.
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Where is the video Mike? Show us this infuriating lag please.

Please don't feed the trolls (esp. those that don't even have Xooms).

kcrudup said:
Please don't feed the trolls (esp. those that don't even have Xooms).
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He is a kid spewing issues and not giving specifics. I know he likes Android but he is not helping solve his issues with his one liners and no details. I challenge him and anyone else to post a video showing the issues. Put up or shut up.

keitht said:
He is a kid spewing issues and not giving specifics. I know he likes Android but he is not helping solve his issues with his one liners and no details. I challenge him and anyone else to post a video showing the issues. Put up or shut up.
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Typing in text boxes on the web (depending on the website). Specific enough?
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MikeyMike01 said:
Typing in text boxes on the web (depending on the website). Specific enough?
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Getting closer and I agree with you on certain sites. In fact, XDA has this issue on the Xoom as I mentioned in my video. Anything else besides the browser?

MikeyMike01 said:
Typing in text boxes on the web (depending on the website).
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1 - there's a lot of JS on certain sites' in their text boxes (presumably for advanced editing/composition features). You'll also notice on those "slow" sites that there's no keyboard autocorrect popups, either 'cause all input is character-at-a-time
2 - that's what you base "slow" on? You sound like my co-workers and their "it's slow 'cause the apps don't scroll as fast as an iPad" crapola.
(Damn, I fed the troll ...! )

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1 - there's a lot of JS on certain sites' in their text boxes (presumably for advanced editing/composition features). You'll also notice on those "slow" sites that there's no keyboard autocorrect popups, either 'cause all input is character-at-a-time
2 - that's what you base "slow" on? You sound like my co-workers and their "it's slow 'cause the apps don't scroll as fast as an iPad" crapola.
(Damn, I fed the troll ...! )
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What's funny is for the most part the Xoom browser scrolls faster than the iPad's browser. Even the iPad 2 has the checkerboarding everywhere when you scroll.

Post your Review for Android 2.3.3 and 2.3.4 Firmwares from Samsung

Post your Review for Android 2.3.3 and 2.3.4 Firmwares from Samsung

There is no daily breifing but super fast.
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It's cool that Samsung updated Galaxy S to latest android OS pretty soon. But I hate the fact that Sammy removed all the cool factors of AOSP Android 2.3 from it. It looks like Froyo. No Gingerbread keyboard, no black notification bar, nothing to differentiate from Sammy's Froyo.

itskapil said:
It's cool that Samsung updated Galaxy S to latest android OS pretty soon. But I hate the fact that Sammy removed all the cool factors of AOSP Android 2.3 from it. It looks like Froyo. No Gingerbread keyboard, no black notification bar, nothing to differentiate from Sammy's Froyo.
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You have done a too quick look for missing the new features so.

itskapil said:
It's cool that Samsung updated Galaxy S to latest android OS pretty soon. But I hate the fact that Sammy removed all the cool factors of AOSP Android 2.3 from it. It looks like Froyo. No Gingerbread keyboard, no black notification bar, nothing to differentiate from Sammy's Froyo.
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Have you ever seen GB on HTC devices? All the factors of GB are gone there too. This glow effect and screen off animation is a trade mark of Google Nexus S I guess. Thats why Samsung and HTC don't have it on their devices.
But the good thing is that you can get these effects on the GALAXY S
I'm on Darkys RC4 and I have all of these effects Thats why I prefer Custom ROMs over Stock ROMs!
Sent from my GALAXY S 2.3.3 using XDA App

a bit off topic probably,
with xxjvk, the battery meter went from 100% to 8x% instantly after i unplugged the charger which was connected overnight
JVB users, does this "bug" still exist? I know that it is still too soon to tell. But please report later, thanks

rinl said:
a bit off topic probably,
with xxjvk, the battery meter went from 100% to 8x% instantly after i unplugged the charger which was connected overnight
JVB users, does this "bug" still exist? I know that it is still too soon to tell. But please report later, thanks
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Its not a bug. Calibration takes a while to settle down after flashing ROMs, which is why its pointless commenting on battery drain for at least a week

mossy1963 said:
Its not a bug. Calibration takes a while to settle down after flashing ROMs, which is why its pointless commenting on battery drain for at least a week
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what i found was that the batterystats.bin is deleted automatically once the charger is connected / disconnected every time with xxjvk...

For me there are no change from JVK to JVB ....
Btw : it's just a FroYo with a better design...

Could you check that you are able to find
android.hardware.touchscreen.multitouch.distinct.xml
in /system/etc/permission which is absent in JVK?
This is a reason why JVK has a multitouch problem.

I haven't taken the plunge as yet but I guess they got rid of bugs and stability issues in this build. Don't think the build was based on looks but rather performance.
That's why we have stock roms, to improve on everything from the looks to performance the stock roms are missing

rinl said:
a bit off topic probably,
with xxjvk, the battery meter went from 100% to 8x% instantly after i unplugged the charger which was connected overnight
JVB users, does this "bug" still exist? I know that it is still too soon to tell. But please report later, thanks
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I don't have such problem with XXJVK nor XWJVB.

Browser still have problem.
The browser is annoying as i9000xxjvk, more specifically, the scrolling. it just scroll for 2 pages and stop. What I want is to swipe my finger and I can scroll from top of the page to bottom.
What the hell is Samsung thinking, that's not improvement, that's just stupid. or at least give us an option for that...
Oh well, I guess the only option is to wait for CM7 to make things correct.
(should've got the Nexus S instead)
This is exactly what i post at: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12949323#post12949323

Listed file is android.hardware.touchscreen.multitouch.distinct.xml, no .distinct in filename.
LukeSP said:
Could you check that you are able to find
android.hardware.touchscreen.multitouch.distinct.xml
in /system/etc/permission which is absent in JVK?
This is a reason why JVK has a multitouch problem.
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how is the battery? There are problems of battery drain?

itskapil said:
It's cool that Samsung updated Galaxy S to latest android OS pretty soon. But I hate the fact that Sammy removed all the cool factors of AOSP Android 2.3 from it. It looks like Froyo. No Gingerbread keyboard, no black notification bar, nothing to differentiate from Sammy's Froyo.
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What did you expect.getting gingerbread magicaly turning our phones in to nexus s there 1900
The benifits arnt the looks
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okay, anyone check their gps yet?
i just test mine here in malaysia, and i cant get even a SINGLE satellite view unless im connected to internet.
im expecting a mind blowing gps as we get so much greatness from JVK and JV1 gps,

uvlight said:
The browser is annoying as i9000xxjvk, more specifically, the scrolling. it just scroll for 2 pages and stop. What I want is to swipe my finger and I can scroll from top of the page to bottom.
What the hell is Samsung thinking, that's not improvement, that's just stupid. or at least give us an option for that...
Oh well, I guess the only option is to wait for CM7 to make things correct.
(should've got the Nexus S instead)
This is exactly what i post at: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12949323#post12949323
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Are there still people not using Opera Mobile? Why bother with the stock browser?

paranoid2007 said:
Are there still people not using Opera Mobile? Why bother with the stock browser?
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Why bother the Opera Mobile while the build-in browser works correctly?
And I am not talking about which browser works better anyway. You are right, Opera works with XWJVB, but this is not exactly a Opera review thread. And yes, I have reasons to use the default browser.

rinl said:
a bit off topic probably,
with xxjvk, the battery meter went from 100% to 8x% instantly after i unplugged the charger which was connected overnight
JVB users, does this "bug" still exist? I know that it is still too soon to tell. But please report later, thanks
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1.) Recalibrate your battery once
2.) Pull battery off and let it outside the phone for at least one hour.
3.) Put it back to the phone, boot charge up again to 100% and recalibrate it again
After this your stats should count precise again...

OTA Update Build 8.4.4.11 Findings

Our new OTA 3.1 build number 8.4.4.11 has been released and we should provide a source for members to see exactly what has changed. Members have noticed some of these:
Overall better stability
Powered by NVidia splash screen with spinning wheel during boot
Option to remove keyboard message
Volume fix
Speaker balance fix
Smoother transition between home screens
Added Tegra Zone app
Added Video App (Google rentals available only in US)
MP4 video playback smooth
WiFi better
Microphone improvement
Screen color improvement
Netflix shows up in Market but still does not work
Typing lag still present
Please add your findings!
UPDATE: Thanks to one of our members @Fixter for finding this on the Internet!
"Asus has release a new Firmware Over The Air (FOTA) update for Asus Eee Pad Transformer… Sadly this is not Android Honeycomb 3.2 update and nothing new for the keyboard dock also… According to the report all around the world the new update increase the volume sound, smooth transition between home screens and an option to disable pop-up notification when not using Asus Keyboard while docking…"
There were 194 files in the update. The complete list of files can be found at:
http://www.atsutane.net/blog/2011/07/asus-transformer-fota-update-8-4-4-11-20110711.html#more-5783

Not much difference
Volume issue not fixed
Still keyboard lag
Zinio was already there
Video added
Weather location and update still a problem on home screen.

Thanks jviola, everyone keep your findings coming!

Overall its a welcomed update, everything seems to run smoother now, I have a feelig this upate was designed to path the way for 3.2 ( that would explain why we can use the Netflix app but not stream).
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Zeon45 said:
Overall its a welcomed update, everything seems to run smoother now, I have a feelig this upate was designed to path the way for 3.2 ( that would explain why we can use the Netflix app but not stream).
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using XDA Premium App
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Maybe. I do have 3.2 on my Xoom and Netflix still doesn't even show up in the Market...

Speaker balance fixed.
Volume louder.
GUI/Browser seem snapier.
Lag still present on stock browser.
Rotation from landscapeto portrait seems faster.
Don't lknow how many of this are due to subject impressions ratger than actual improvements .
Regards.

Battery Dock issue fix? really?

CalvinH said:
Don't lknow how many of this are due to subject impressions ratger than actual improvements .
Regards.
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I know there have been changes, but I think too many are suffering from the pacebo affects. I wonder if ASUS engineers are laughing right now.

jviola said:
I know there have been changes, but I think too many are suffering from the pacebo affects. I wonder if ASUS engineers are laughing right now.
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Yes, some of the findings may be placebo effects but when everyone chimes in, we will be able to sort out the real changes. That is the idea of the thread.

The Netflix app shows my queue, allows me to search and add to my queue, has recommendations, etc. It's just that when I go to play a movie it spins and then says there is a network error. I think we're getting Netflix very, very soon.

jviola said:
I know there have been changes, but I think too many are suffering from the pacebo affects. I wonder if ASUS engineers are laughing right now.
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Could be, but I know I was getting a bit frustrated with overall performance (delays, lags, hesitation, etc.) and don't seem to feel the same way now. I do think things are a bit smoother, but that could also just be the post-update effect. We'll see how it runs after a few days of use.

is the market still not showing movies?

JMQUINT00 said:
is the market still not showing movies?
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You have to use the Videos app

Homescreen switching seems smoother, but that could definitely be placebo.

I had an issue where if the tablet was docked to the keyboard and I flip it open, the screen wouldn't read the unlock pattern for the first second or two (green lines don't show up over the dots and nothing happens). This appears to be fixed.

@jhanford reported in the "Just Got an OTA Update" thread:
So this is easily more than just a kernel update.
In addition to the kernel, there's 94 patches in /system/app alone with another 80 patches throughout the rest of the filesystem!
That's pretty impressive for an interim release especially if they do release 3.2 in the next couple of weeks.
Awesome!

The only thing I noticed out of everything is better wifi signals (through speedtests and router signal checking). I don't really know much about the rest since I took the OTA and selectively applied some patches to my Prime 1.5 ROM by using bsdiff to apply the .p files. (it has to be done with the original 8445 files, not prime 1.5 files because some prime 1.5 files are based on 8447 CN, bsdiff patch files doesn't have a md5 or crc32 hash stored on the patch file so it doesn't check for original file integrity before patching)

The update most definitely fixed my deep sleep/power on issue. A single press of the power button brings my Transformer to attention now...every time. Prior to the update, I had to press the power button multiple times.
Homescreen transitions are also very smooth now.

Im still on 3.0 it never wants to update Idk why. Any suggestion
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JoTeC said:
Our new OTA 3.1 build number 8.4.4.11 has been released and we should provide a source for members to see exactly what has changed. Members have noticed some of these:
Volume/Speaker fix
Battery Dock issue fix
Smoother transition between home screens
Added Tegra Zone app
Added Video App
Netflix shows up in Market but still does not work?
Typing lag still present
WiFi better?
Please add your findings!
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Are you sure about the Battery Dock issue fix? Would be pretty awesome, but I don't really believe it. I'm at Prime 1.5 atm so I cannot test it myself. Can anyone confirm this fix?

Black screen of death re : 3.2 update

Man, the problems just keep coming.
In addition to constant force closes and very poor performance, I'm now getting the black screen of death after the Honeycomb 3.2 update. Basically, an app will crash and trying to return to the home screen or any other app, simply produces a black screen with the button bar on the bottom. I can use the multitasking button, but any app I go to gives a black screen. Sometimes hitting the power button and unlocking the device brings back a working app, but usually I have to wait for "android system" or something else to force close before I can use the tablet.
All this after a factory reset and minimal installation of my previous apps.
I'm so frustrated at Asus right now. Maybe i should go back to the original firmware at this point!
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk

you should try a full reset

bitmovel said:
you should try a full reset
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I did. Wiped the device clean.
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Are you rooted? How are you reinstalling your apps?

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Are you rooted? How are you reinstalling your apps?
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Not rooted and installing from the Android Market - most of my apps are paid, so not installing them or using something else isn't an option -they worked fine before the update and doubt that's what's causing these problems.
I'm also seeing a bug when you try to share something, sometimes the screen dims and you get nothing unless you rotate the screen (which is not a good option if you are docked!). This has been discussed in another thread.
This update has been by FAR the worst I've experienced with any of my devices
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk

I hate to say it, but here's a theory: if 3.2 really did implement more hardware acceleration throughout the system, then perhaps you have a faulty GPU that's only now being stressed enough to cause issues. Certainly, you're experiencing more problems than anyone else seems to be, and so it does point at your unit as defective in some fashion.

wynand32 said:
I hate to say it, but here's a theory: if 3.2 really did implement more hardware acceleration throughout the system, then perhaps you have a faulty GPU that's only now being stressed enough to cause issues. Certainly, you're experiencing more problems than anyone else seems to be, and so it does point at your unit as defective in some fashion.
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I hope 3.2 didn't break my device - I had already sent it in once before. But if a faulty GPU is the culprit, it shouldn't crash when it's idle doing nothing right? It might crash during a game or something, but not while looking at my wifi settings or reading an email.
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk

sell it and get a new one, definitely shouldn't be acting this way especially if you did a full reset. I have never seen this happen before or after 3.2

I think these issues are limited to a few systems since it appears most people are not having issues It would be good to see if the units showing issues have some related hardware or software configurations. The people with errors should send their HW configuration and serial # beginning (ex 30, 40, 50, 60, 70). Also, rooted/not rooted, live wall papers (uses acceleration) or static, apps installed.