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I am visiting here from EVO forum... The word is that there'll be an encrypted bootloader on the EVOO 3D just like the Motorola Droid X... can anyone weigh in on the problems this poses. It seems you guys have plenty of roms, but people are saying it will make roms nonexistent on the EVO 3D. Is this the case? Is it more difficult for Devs around here because of this?
Thanks for any feedback in advance!
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It disallows us from flashing custom kernels; therefore, we can't have things like Cyanogenmod and true AOSP ROMS.
Our ROMS are made from the stock Droid X rom and have things like motoblur removed and replaced with AOSP applications.
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It just makes life difficult if you like to customize your device. I also find that as time goes on, it becomes more annoying.
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Wasnt the thunderbolt bootloader locked also? Yet they figured out how to unlock it days after release, here we are a year with dx andno progress...
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Wasnt the thunderbolt bootloader locked also? Yet they figured out how to unlock it days after release, here we are a year with dx andno progress...
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The thunderbolt key was a lot simpler and it was considered incredibly lucky they got through. The droid x has a 1024 bit RSA encryption key. Have fun getting through that
There's a lot of differences in MOTO and HTC's way of locking it down. MOTO has an encrypted bootloader while HTC uses an encrypted signature. Also a permanent root is possible on MOTO devices while only temp root on HTC. With HTC any changes made to the system partition are reverted back to stock on a reboot. Makes customs roms pretty useless. Unless we get lucky like the thunderbolt we won't have s-off on new HTC devices unless they let us.
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I've made Espresso ROM For The Droid X. And Will Now Finally Get It To The Fascinate. My Plan Was To Get It To All The Galaxy S Varients, Nexus One, Samsung Nexus S, Samsung Droid Charge, HTC My Touch 4G, HTC Droid Incredible, Wildfire, HTC Hero, Original HTC Desire, HTC G2 (Desire Z) And Aria.
When Will Espresso ROM Be Released?
Later This Week.
(If You Search Over On The Droid X Forums, You'll Find My ROMs Including Espresso, & Doubleshot)
awesome, more "coming soon" threads...ugh
Mtd or BML ?
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Fascinate MTD.
Thanks JT!
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Thanks JT!
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...JT?? Wheres jt?
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...JT?? Wheres jt?
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His point is that JTs work on the fascinate is the reason all of these other mtd based roms are being ported to our device now.
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His point is that JTs work on the fascinate is the reason all of these other mtd based roms are being ported to our device now.
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Ahhh! Gotcha. Thanks
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I've made Espresso ROM For The Droid X. And Will Now Finally Get It To The Fascinate. My Plan Was To Get It To All The Galaxy S Varients, Nexus One, Samsung Nexus S, Samsung Droid Charge, HTC My Touch 4G, HTC Droid Incredible, Wildfire, HTC Hero, Original HTC Desire, HTC G2 (Desire Z) And Aria.
When Will Espresso ROM Be Released?
Later This Week.
(If You Search Over On The Droid X Forums, You'll Find My ROMs Including Espresso, & Doubleshot)
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Umm..so far all the Gingerbread roms that are out are still having some issues...low in- call volume, no hardware acceleration(videos), no flashlight...etc...and aren't quite fully functional as Froyo is just yet..which is perfectly understandable...
I was just wondering if your up coming rom will still have those issues....or if you are going to blow our minds with a fully functional Gingerbread rom for the Fasciante...
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Umm..so far all the Gingerbread roms that are out are still having some issues...low in- call volume, no hardware acceleration(videos), no flashlight...etc...and aren't quite fully functional as Froyo is just yet..which is perfectly understandable...
I was just wondering if your up coming rom will still have those issues....or if you are going to blow our minds with a fully functional Gingerbread rom for the Fasciante...
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Completely understand your frustration. Unfortunately, if the devs don't have a full, stable source drop to work with, we really can't hold the current crop of common /generally recognized GB issues against them. Heck, they're probably more frustrated about it than the rest of us
OP, I look forward to the upcoming release and maturation of your project!
Another option would be terrific, but good luck with the SD card!
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dont feel like its personal if you are met with flak about "new and upcoming" roms here. you can thank Tonu for that.
but good luck either way man!
My point is that no legit devs post coming soon ****...they work on something then release it...hype is just lame and time after time these threads end in disappointment or the rom just doesn't offer anything worth a hype thread
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My point is that no legit devs post coming soon ****...they work on something then release it...hype is just lame and time after time these threads end in disappointment or the rom just doesn't offer anything worth a hype thread
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please nitsuj. I want NO beef but, cut the kid some slack, he's just trying to help everyone, trying to make our phones better. u guys have a coming soon tab on the tsm site ....but anyway he seems like a good kid trying to help. let's give him a break. what he makes could be really good. please don't push people down before we see what they can do. hahah I mean cmon
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please nitsuj. I want NO beef but, cut the kid some slack, he's just trying to help everyone, trying to make our phones better. u guys have a coming soon tab on the tsm site ....but anyway he seems like a good kid trying to help. let's give him a break. what he makes could be really good. please don't push people down before we see what they can do. hahah I mean cmon
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yes on our *website* we have a coming soon tab..we dont make those posts on xda
if he has something good...then great
the work would stand on its own without hype...but i looked at his post history and there are nothing but coming soon threads for various phones
*if* one is going to do this type of thread, at least list what the rom is comprised of (aosp, tw, other) what differentiates it from other existing roms (besides a theme, there are enough throms out there) and why it needs to be hyped up
either way ill eject myself from the thread now
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yes on our *website* we have a coming soon tab..we dont make those posts on xda
if he has something good...then great
the work would stand on its own without hype...but i looked at his post history and there are nothing but coming soon threads for various phones
*if* one is going to do this type of thread, at least list what the rom is comprised of (aosp, tw, other) what differentiates it from other existing roms (besides a theme, there are enough throms out there) and why it needs to be hyped up
either way ill eject myself from the thread now
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I do know one of my roms will have 2.4 Ice Cream when google releases the SDK. But most are AOSP coupled with Touchwiz. They will also come with my version of The JIT Compiler. They will also come with my version of build.prop tweaks. And more.
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yes on our *website* we have a coming soon tab..we dont make those posts on xda
if he has something good...then great
the work would stand on its own without hype...but i looked at his post history and there are nothing but coming soon threads for various phones
*if* one is going to do this type of thread, at least list what the rom is comprised of (aosp, tw, other) what differentiates it from other existing roms (besides a theme, there are enough throms out there) and why it needs to be hyped up
either way ill eject myself from the thread now
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The nexus one just got the Espresso Rom yesterday.
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The nexus one just got the Espresso Rom yesterday.
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yes and its about the most vague op ive ever seen...and for the fascinate u wont just be compiling off the sdk...you ll have to kang jt's mtd setup or ull never release anything
Guys, this a now help thread for ppl that couldn't post in the dev section yet, so if ur a new xda member , don't hesitate to ask questions here
To be honest I think one of the only things the community of the Legend is still waiting for is ICS with working wi-fi/gps/HWA. And since you can't really port that's not going to be great. But we got lots of Froyo/Ginger choices already...
well i'm eagerly waiting for a working cm9,both because it's ICS and CM. i'm very pleased with cm roms,so i tend to stick to them, but i'm open viewed and would take any rom,if no other reason then just for fun and for testing.
thansk for the offer
Is it possible to have a combination of Vanilla + Sense, like SuperVillainZ ROM found across the more popular HTC devices?
CM9. 2.2 & 2.3 are fully covered.
Thanks for the opinions guys
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Thanks for the opinion guys ill try to get a cm9 beta, but it'll be harddd, anyway thanks so much for Ur opinions, highly appreciated
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Tbh, ICS Is the most popular demand right now. Good on ya for making a rom for a phone that you no longer use
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Tbh, ICS Is the most popular demand right now. Good on ya for making a rom for a phone that you no longer use
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cool, ill see what i can do, mate, im actually still using the Legend, its my first Android phone and i love it its what got me into android and dont wanna waste it, im using both phones now
Senseless, speedy ICS with WiFi working.
ICS won't be made available as the Legend does not have enough RAM (384MB), the Adreno 200 is aged, and MSM7227 won't have enough CPU power to run it. We already have enough Froyo/Gingerbread ROM's for this phone. Is it a great phone? Yes. However, there are quite a few newer HTC phones that the devs are putting their time and energy into. Don't contradict me about the chinese ROM going around. As long as the devs can't find the appropriate driver modules for the WiFi, BT, and GPS, it's not worth using.
Maybe a MIUI port? Now MIUI is open-source, so I think that it's possible
Im gonna see what i can do, i think ill start with a very clean cm7, but ill work my way thru. Cheers for the opinions guys !!!
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Kay, ive decided. Imma name it Extreme Legend Fuse, its gonna be based on latest stable version of CM7. Theres no use of making an ICS if it wont work properly as we have no ICS sources specifically for the
legend From HTC. No use. I dont wanna make a rom which wont work.
Im gonna keep updating u guys with news on fuse (WOW that rymes lol)
So this is gonna be a custom version of CM7
Stay tune for more info on Fuse
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A lil bit of an info on the upcoming fuse
- default launcher is LauncherPro
- Might include CM9 music player
- will be at least 20% faster than normal CM7
Stay tuned
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Plus ics style overscrolling glow effect
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Looks great, with a gps working perfectly and the trackball waking option it would be good.
Good luck dude !
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Looks great, with a gps working perfectly and the trackball waking option it would be good.
Good luck dude !
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Cheers dude. Ill make sure gps works and i wanna expand the Extreme.ROM Series to my amazing legend theres already extreme sensation and im looking forward for Extreme Legend Fuse
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Good luck with your endeavours, I'll certainly be testing it out.
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Good luck with your endeavours, I'll certainly be testing it out.
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Cheers, ill be realeasing Extreme Legend Fuse™ tmorrow or tomos nite, so stay tuned if i need mire opinions or other lil news
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I've been following the ics project since after my birthday (11/27/11) and a lot has changed but when it comes to (FFC) it came to me that its not gonna work till maybe after the summer or never, whenever HTC gives out the code bit what's your opinion about the ics for the EVO 4G?
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This doesnt belong in the Android Development section, belongs in GENERAL.
My bad I thought it was general at first. The system will automaticly do it for me as usual.
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ummm my opinion on it is that if they dont want to they shouldnt. It will give us an awesome rom but more importantly that means our wonderful devs are learning stuff. this means that in the future they can use these experiences to help them in work or in other aspects of there personal lifes. so dev on guys you are doing great
Why in the world should they stop working on ICS? It makes little sense.
Deck and Kang and others are making great ICS ROMs for lots of phones, not just the EVO4G.
htc will release the code.. because it is an open source project. when is the question, not if.
ics will come..
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htc will release the code.. because it is an open source project. when is the question, not if.
ics will come..
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The OS code is open source. The device drivers are not last I knew. So no, HTC does not have to release driver code.
HTC may release the FFC code for our OG's as soon as they sell enough of their newer devices.
They seem to be dragging their feet in releasing the official ICS updates for the Evo 3D and the Evo Design when they said they would, but they're holding it back, why? Cuz they want to sell enough of the One series models before they officially update the older HTC models that are scheduled to be updated with ICS.
Its kinda crappy of HTC to do that, but hey, they're a "for-profit" business.
But in answer to your question, heck no they shouldn't stop developing ICS for our OG Evo's! This sh*t is fun as hell.
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what is the point of this thread? why is that a question? sorry no disrespect.
Yeah, I don't get why a thread was started for this. But why should devs abandon ICS on Evo? Because they can't get FFC to work!? I've been on ICS since the minute they got camera working (around Xmas), and could NEVER imagine going back to GB or Froyo (well, ...maybe froyo).
Keep up the awesome work, all who are working on ICS for Evo.
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Yeah, I don't get why a thread was started for this. But why should devs abandon ICS on Evo? Because they can't get FFC to work!? I've been on ICS since the minute they got camera working (around Xmas), and could NEVER imagine going back to GB or Froyo (well, ...maybe froyo).
Keep up the awesome work, all who are working on ICS for Evo.
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I flashed outer depth express from, which is a great rom , just for ****s and giggles and let me tell you I haven't tried sense for about a year now and if you want to appreciate ics, flash a sense rom and you will see y we won't look back.....omg.....
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I don't follow ICS what is FFC?
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I don't follow ICS what is FFC?
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Front facing camera
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Wow I should know that, but I've never used mine so I never thought of it. But really why would they stop ics for that.
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Wow I should know that, but I've never used mine so I never thought of it. But really why would they stop ics for that.
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That's my point. This thread makes no sense. Ics development for evo is extremely active. Don't understand the creation of this thread.
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Hahaha. Let's see... These devs have given us some of the smoothest ROMs our phones have ever seen, with incredible battery life and cutting edge features...
But if I can't look at myself in my phone with a FFC, what's the point??
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Hahaha. Let's see... These devs have given us some of the smoothest ROMs our phones have ever seen, with incredible battery life and cutting edge features...
But if I can't look at myself in my phone with a FFC, what's the point??
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Hell no. I am ugly. I don't want to see myself anyway.
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The evo is EOL(end of life) HTC doesn't have to support it any longer meaning they won't release any source for it as they are not working on ICS for the device. Hardware mfgs may release source for the same hardware in other devices, like they did with the adreno or the devs may code their own drivers. But don't expect HTC to do a damn thing for the evo, period.
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All I'm saying we have a lot of people love the ics Rom but some people hate it cause no 4G. But let me tell one thing about the ics it came a lot since then and like some people who are poor or they don't make a lot of money, its hard to keep up with ics roms when the last two months the biggest change was 4.0.4 which is like starting all over again. Don't get me wrong with the debate about their work, its freaking amazing, but the biggest break through will be the ffc. Closest to that is from a horse ride to a plane ride experience
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I don't think that they should stop working on the ICS ROM's. I went from Sense to Ice Cream Sense to ICS and having ICS on my phone is like having a brand new phone. We don't have 4G in our area, and the front facing camera I hardly used. I am using gummyWorms ICS right now and so far had no major problems with it. There are minor glitches sometimes but, that is no big deal. I hope that the ICS developers can get everything working and I know that it will take time to do so. I appreciate all of their hard work in bringing us some ICS goodness to our phones.
Guys im sure as hell no newbie to rooting my own personal phones , but tomorrow my sister is visiting me from Florida with her new Evo on a fresh sprint 2 year contact (yeah dont ask) but anyways she wants to root her phone to tether on WiMAX. Could you guys guide me to the right links on rooting her phone and tell me which rom will be a kick ass rom for her. Most likely that will be the ROM she'll stay with for the rest of her contract.
Searching old thread isn't my thing. I rather suscribe to my own thread.
Also is the rooting process hard? My EVO 3d was a pain in the ass.
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Guys im sure as hell no newbie to rooting my own personal phones , but tomorrow my sister is visiting me from Florida with her new Evo on a fresh sprint 2 year contact (yeah dont ask) but anyways she wants to root her phone to tether on WiMAX. Could you guys guide me to the right links on rooting her phone and tell me which rom will be a kick ass rom for her. Most likely that will be the ROM she'll stay with for the rest of her contract.
Searching old thread isn't my thing. I rather suscribe to my own thread.
Also is the rooting process hard? My EVO 3d was a pain in the ass.
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It all depends on the software. If its on 2.2 froyo you would use unrevoked. If its on GB 2.3.3 you would use revolutionary.io and if its GB 2.3.5 you have to use HTC dev unlock. I recommend that you put tommytomatoes classic rom on her phone. Its 100% stable and fully working and has great community support
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Guys im sure as hell no newbie to rooting my own personal phones , but tomorrow my sister is visiting me from Florida with her new Evo on a fresh sprint 2 year contact (yeah dont ask) but anyways she wants to root her phone to tether on WiMAX. Could you guys guide me to the right links on rooting her phone and tell me which rom will be a kick ass rom for her. Most likely that will be the ROM she'll stay with for the rest of her contract.
Searching old thread isn't my thing. I rather suscribe to my own thread.
Also is the rooting process hard? My EVO 3d was a pain in the ass.
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Here is a great guide that I use/d
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It all depends on the software. If its on 2.2 froyo you would use unrevoked. If its on GB 2.3.3 you would use revolutionary.io and if its GB 2.3.5 you have to use HTC dev unlock. I recommend that you put tommytomatoes classic rom on her phone. Its 100% stable and fully working and has great community support
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+2 on tommy's rom. Is under the new evo 4g original development section. As far as rooting go is pretty straight forward, just find out which android version she is running ( which might be 2.3.5 ), and go from there.
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Depends on preference, Tommy's rom's great. but have some variants for her. also may just show her some rom's she'll most likely want gb for stability and best performance. also HTC Sense rom's lagg a bit in my opinion AOSP seems to lag less for me and run more in a operational fashion.
edit install rom manager on her device and keep her stock rooted tell her she can change the software via that app. screen shot's info and downloads all in one nice little user friendly app.
Thanks for the great info guys. I'll be working on her phone tonight.
Just to make sure, with these roms, she still be able to use the HDMI out on the phone?
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Once you get rooted, read my guide in my signature. It'll tell you everything you need to know about what to do next
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