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I got my Nexus One AT&T last week and promptly moved my Sim from my rooted Rogers G1 into the Nexus One.
My GF now has the rooted rogers G1 with the dumb-phone data plan. This is the one that costs $15 for dumb phones and $10 if you have a family plan.
I was forced to move my N1 to the $30 data plan because I was having some service issues and they re-activated my sim.
So here's where it gets interesting. I wanted to see if the N1 really did have worse reception than the G1 (which appears it doesn't). I installed the speedtest.net app on both phones.
So, I've got the latest CyanogenMod for N1, and she's got the latest for G1.
Her speeds would not go over 384kbit (or so) up or down, no matter what. The N1 on the $30 plan can consistently best 2Mbit right next to the G1
Keep in mind that this is the G1 from Canada that is compatible with AT&T 3G. Previously, the G1 never had an issue going over 1.5Mbit. I hadn't tested the G1's speed since last year.
I've test it again and again, and it appears that while some may be excited they can be grandfathered AT&T cheap data plan, AT&T they got wise and started throttling the bandwidth.
One caveat, is this may not be in all markets. This was tested in the Salt Lake City market.
I assume this will eventually be in all markets if not already.
Let the conspiracy begin.
-James
Interesting. I'll have to test my Telus Hero and see what I can get out of it.
Switch sim cards and try it again. I doubt it's AT&T; probably the G1 isn't doing HSDPA for some reason.
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Switch sim cards and try it again. I doubt it's AT&T; probably the G1 isn't doing HSDPA for some reason.
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I will switch when I get home. Sure will be interesting if the N1 suddenly caps.
I was hoping someone else could test this.
I'm also going to say that I doubt this is the case.
The G1 probably has HSDPA disabled. 384kbps is the theoretical max for UMTS (with no HSDPA) so that would make sense...
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I will switch when I get home. Sure will be interesting if the N1 suddenly caps.
I was hoping someone else could test this.
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I'm in Austin, TX and I have an N1 on AT&T's $15 dumbphone data plan. I just ran 4 tests in rush hour getting 300-900 kbit down and 700-900 kbit up. Late last night I was getting closer to 2 Mbit down.
IIRC, the G1 only supports UMTS and not HSDPA, versus the 7.2mb HSDPA in the Nexus One. I don't think it's AT&T at all.
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IIRC, the G1 only supports UMTS and not HSDPA, versus the 7.2mb HSDPA in the Nexus One. I don't think it's AT&T at all.
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No this is not so. I use to be over a megabit repeatedly on this G1. Also Cyanogen's roms modified the build.prop for the phones radio settings to enable 7.2MBit (i.e. Category 6 HSDPA)
-James
not possible.
First, I'm getting over a meg and a half with mine.
Second, that's the same plan that people are using for streaming videos, music, TV, etc. 384k couldn't handle it.
-Mc
Just got the Nexus One a few days ago on ATT
I did a speed test with the stock rom and got about 1.5mbps down
Yesterday I flashed to Cyanogen 5.0.5.3. I don't get the 3G icon anymore and now get the "H"
I did a speed test and would consistently get 350ish
But even when the severe drop in speed all of a sudden, I watch youtube videos in high quality with barely any buffering and download things extremely fast. So I don't think the speed test is reliable or the new rom has had some kind of wierd effect
N1 does have some RF problems. It consistently scores lower than my Milestone in speedtests. Where reception is great though, it'll shine.
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N1 does have some RF problems. It consistently scores lower than my Milestone in speedtests. Where reception is great though, it'll shine.
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My N1 consistently scores faster than my rooted Rogers G1.
False alarm.
I don't know what the hell was going on, but I retested the Rogers G1 and was hitting 1.5mbit.
I can't explain why it did it that one day, I haven't changed anything.
Maybe it's a sign of things to come but for now, the dumb-phone plan is back to full speed.
-James
Why are you complaining about the "dumb phone plan"? It's $15 - $20 cheaper. And, as you discovered, it was a false alarm...
I mean, if they were to restrict it, then yeah, I'd be pretty pissed, and force it over to a SmartPhone data plan. But oh well, it's not. I am in Indianapolis and tested the Chicago, IL server and got 2.5 down and 1.2 up. I've noticed a lot of these servers on the speed test program and ****. They don't work very well half the time, and they are all slow as hell. So maybe that's what was wrong with yours.
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Why are you complaining about the "dumb phone plan"? It's $15 - $20 cheaper. And, as you discovered, it was a false alarm...
I mean, if they were to restrict it, then yeah, I'd be pretty pissed, and force it over to a SmartPhone data plan. But oh well, it's not. I am in Indianapolis and tested the Chicago, IL server and got 2.5 down and 1.2 up. I've noticed a lot of these servers on the speed test program and ****. They don't work very well half the time, and they are all slow as hell. So maybe that's what was wrong with yours.
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I'm not complaining. I thought was being restricted and was sharing information. I use the $30 data plan on my phone and it works just fine. I'm quote satisfied it was a false alarm.
-James
For the sake of the thread, I thought it relevant to mention I'm on the $10 family data plan with smartphone exclusion and typically get 3mbps down.
I have simple mobile on this mytouch slide and since friday the data has been very slow, before friday i would normally get over 1500k but since i cant pass 250k. any ideas? On my vibrant with a diferent sim card i get 4000k easy.
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I have simple mobile on this mytouch slide and since friday the data has been very slow, before friday i would normally get over 1500k but since i cant pass 250k. any ideas? On my vibrant with a diferent sim card i get 4000k easy.
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Maybe they're throttling the speed, but have you changed roms recently or anything special. You can always call your provider to ask them about the speed.
From what i hear, their unlimited data is capped to 1gb?.... the is what kept me from switching lol.
From what i hear is it is indeed unlimitied data. I think the Simple Mobile $60 plan used to be for 1GB of data but recently got changed to unlimited data.
The current plan is indeed unlimited but if you are caught deviating from the terms of use (i.e tethering, downloading torrents and files from peer to peer) they will either restrict your data or disconnect it.
If you use the data for your phone it is truly unlimited.
You should check with their customer care, I work for T-Mobile and I remember reading something about how they can add a throttle feature and you have to call to have it removed. It won't drop off when the bill cycle switches.
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Maybe they're throttling the speed, but have you changed roms recently or anything special. You can always call your provider to ask them about the speed.
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I too am in the same boat, I did change ROM, and suddenly my data got very slow. I called simple mobile to check if I was getting throttled or anything, they told me I was not getting throttled.
It's puzzling me what might be the reason for this, is this because I changed a ROM?
i called them and complained about slow data speed, agent just "rebooted" my account and speed went back
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I have simple mobile on this mytouch slide and since friday the data has been very slow, before friday i would normally get over 1500k but since i cant pass 250k.
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Dude! Same thing here and I haven't done anything!
To me it started happening like last Friday or since Thursday.
My speed is like 0.18 down.
I restored a nandroid and still same thing, I switched to another rom, and still same thing >:S
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My phone gets "Throttled down" around the 15th as I go over 5gig worth of data...and paying 39.99 for Unlimited Data...WTF?!
I am facing the same issue on Simplemobile. I do some (light weight) tethering to browse my emails etc.
Suddenly last week (Mar 15, 2011) my phone internet speed reduced drastically. Most webpages pages started timing out. Internet basically becomes unusable.
I am start of my billing cycle and have only used 200MB of data. I have never exceeded 1GB in a month.
The only reason I moved to simpleMobile was so that I could use the 'unlimited' data plan.
What to do now? I guess time to move on to other more welcoming providers ?
I was trying to see how much data i could use up before simple mobile decided to throttle down or interrupt my data services so I started watching a lot videos on youtube, movies and i even did some light tethering. So a couple days ago after I hit the 2GB mark my internet slowed down to a crawl.
I still have the H icon but the internet is very slow, I've called them 4 times; they have restarted my data services more than once but it's still slow so today they just created a ticket with their technical support team and the rep said they'd call me withing a couple of days. So let's just wait and see.
Using speedtest.net app, I'm seeing between 1.50mbps-2.70mbps SOMEtimes in the 3.00mbps range. Most I've gotten since I rooted was 3.96mbps and upload is usually always around 1.30mbps. Is this normal for 3G? I don't remember what my results were pre root, but I think I was getting at least 5mbps download. Also I updated to the latest froyo 7.15 blah blah radio, and I see no difference. Supposedly your supposed to get better service and faster 3G. That's not the case for me. Seems the same as always. I'm not using simple im using tmobile us epc.tmobile.com since it was checked on default
Same here. As soon as I hit 2 gb my speed went down. I was listening Pandora, watching YOUTUBE, now I have to wait 2-3 minutes for just for google search page to load! It is complete BS - UNLIMITED, dah?!! Let's all of us who experience problems just file BBB complains under FALSE advertising.
I flashed back to the older radio that the stock slide uses. I get better speeds on it.
This morning I received a text from Simple:
Your Simple Mobile Data service is at risk of being suspended due to violation of terms and conditions.
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I checked my account and saw that I had used just over 2gb worth of data. I began the plan (firs time doing unlimited, had just bought an android and killed H2o's(at the time) 50mb limit in 2 days) on the 9th of this month (18 days ago) and was absolutely thrilled at my new Android + Simple experience.
I rooted a G1 I bought and will admit I tethered. I enjoyed bragging about my Android feeding my Chumby, netbook and my girlfriends Phone and how "I *WAS* the internet". This seriously damaged my droid ego.
It was the first month having it and I did do some pretty heavy compared to what I would normally do downloading so I think I can get by on the measly 2gb of bandwidth you get but I don't want to get stuck at the slow speed I've heard mentioned before.
Am I doomed? If it's like this I'd rather go with H2o's 50 plan since it has better coverage and the picture messages are unlimited, not taken out of the 100mb bandwidth. IF it's an unwritten rule not to go over 2gb I can deal, 3 would be friggin perfect though.
Simple Mobile New 2G "unlimited" plan
Have been using Simple Mob for a while with their $60 plan, in June I went abroad, and since they do not have roaming, decided to move to the $50 plan. Now I’m back, and while away they changed the $50 plan from 100 Mb to “2G unlimited”….that is just insane. 2G might be good enough for IM, chatting, and nothing else, and doing that you will never go beyond 100MB, unless you have the patience to wait forever for pictures lo download when surfing any web site.
Now I’m stuck until my new cycle, which will start in 20 days!!! I have called to complain, and they aren’t willing to do anything. At least they should refund me $10 since I can’t use their lousy 2G, and that’s what costs to have Voice + Text, well that didn’t work either.
Arguments were: “we are trying to give our customers the best value for their money….and if you have an AT&T phone you can’t get 3G, so that’s why we created this plan”….. Well that wasn’t a creation, that was an unfair modification, IMO. Very disappointed, with their lack of willingness to help.
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Have been using Simple Mob for a while with their $60 plan, in June I went abroad, and since they do not have roaming, decided to move to the $50 plan. Now I’m back, and while away they changed the $50 plan from 100 Mb to “2G unlimited”….that is just insane. 2G might be good enough for IM, chatting, and nothing else, and doing that you will never go beyond 100MB, unless you have the patience to wait forever for pictures lo download when surfing any web site.
Now I’m stuck until my new cycle, which will start in 20 days!!! I have called to complain, and they aren’t willing to do anything. At least they should refund me $10 since I can’t use their lousy 2G, and that’s what costs to have Voice + Text, well that didn’t work either.
Arguments were: “we are trying to give our customers the best value for their money….and if you have an AT&T phone you can’t get 3G, so that’s why we created this plan”….. Well that wasn’t a creation, that was an unfair modification, IMO. Very disappointed, with their lack of willingness to help.
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What there not telling you (prob because they have no clue) is that the 2g plan falls under the "throttled" profiles on the epc apn (slotted throttling to hold you near 50kbps)
edge @ ~<300kbps is technically 2.5g tech (to simple that is)... cs and pr forget to mention that
wow what the hell???????? i have a sidekick 4g rooted and on custom rom gingerbread clone v2 and my speedtest is download: 0.12mbps upload: 0.14mbps... thats bull... everytime i try to watch youtube off wifi on my data it lags and freezes all the time.. it takes like 10mins to watch a 2 min video... is there a way to fix that????
Possible reason for slow data speeds on Simple Mobile
Seems like this is an older thread but on the same topic that has yet to have an answer or solution.
Since I've come into the same problem, I thought I would repost what I found out today on this topic.
Finally spoke to someone at Simple Mobile tech support that was able to tell me something that makes sense. At least in my case and it may be the issue for others as well.
I switched my SIM from a Verizon Motorola Droid 2 Global, that only supports EDGE / 2G connection to a Tmobile Sidekick 4G. Which is considered a Samsung Galaxy S 4G.
Well the problem is that it connects at 4G and since I am on the $40, when it does try to connect to the towers I am not authorized for 4G, so it automatically throttles me to 119..
He suggested I toggle 4G off and connect 3G and I should get full speeds... My problem now is that this phone doesn't have an option or toggle, that I know of to test.
Perhaps someone else that knows how to toggle a SK4G could give me a hint or someone could put this to the test on their, it would help the rest of us resolve this mystery.
-CC
Simple mobile throttles after 1gb of data per billing cycle.
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So I've noticed that this month my data speeds have not been throttled and I am currently at 11.28 GB of data used. Current tethered speed test results are about 4-6 Mbps up d/l and 2-3 Mbps u/l. When I first went over the 5GB I did receive a text stating that my speeds will be slowed, and also the activity tab in My Device states this as well.
Anyone have any idea why I am still be getting regular speeds? I remember my previous months the speed was unbearably slow after 5GB, but something didn't trigger the throttle this time it seems. I remember when I went over 5GB initially it was a week into my cycle, I was doing tethered video streaming on my laptop overnight and in the morning noticed I had went from 2 GB to 8+. Wonder if that had an effect?
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So I've noticed that this month my data speeds have not been throttled and I am currently at 11.28 GB of data used. Current tethered speed test results are about 4-6 Mbps up d/l and 2-3 Mbps u/l. When I first went over the 5GB I did receive a text stating that my speeds will be slowed, and also the activity tab in My Device states this as well.
Anyone have any idea why I am still be getting regular speeds? I remember my previous months the speed was unbearably slow after 5GB, but something didn't trigger the throttle this time it seems. I remember when I went over 5GB initially it was a week into my cycle, I was doing tethered video streaming on my laptop overnight and in the morning noticed I had went from 2 GB to 8+. Wonder if that had an effect?
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Yup u will probably get throttled soon. I think. Its because used like 6gb in one day.
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I don't know about T-Mobile, but here in canada, I have Unlimited data plan with Wind Mobile, they also state on their website about fair usage policy and etc... Once when I asked them about the throttling my speed, they said, because Wind is a new player in Canada, they are trying to gain as many customers and hence they would not stop me from doing anything I want.
Well, now I do exactly what I am supposed to do, turned my phone into HotSpot, connected my Atrix to my G2 through WIFI HotSpot, have my laptop hooked up and ofcourse continuous internet connection on G2 itself, have used about 10GB so far for this month, and I get around 3M Up and 1.1M Down speed...
Enjoying my G2... It ROCKS!!!
If I recall it correctly, you also have unlimited data plan by T-Mobile, only cap is if you exceed 5GB per month, your speed will be reduced, right???
I've gone over the 5GB cap several times on my G2 with T-Mobile. Gotten the text notification but didn't notice a significant drop in speed. Still averaged about 3-5M down.
Running CM 7 if that matters.
It's simple, sometimes the throttling just doesn't take effect. I've seen numerous threads about this and have experienced it first hand myself.
I called Verizon the other day to complain about internet speeds being slow. The Rep stated I was showing to be in a marginal signal area(never worse than -85) the Rep said they would note this on my acct and they would let me out of contract (I am at 9 months) . Why would Verizon just let me out of contract with one call? Any ideas to why, I just find it odd for it to be that easy?
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I called Verizon the other day to complain about internet speeds being slow. The Rep stated I was showing to be in a marginal signal area(never worse than -85) the Rep said they would note this on my acct and they would let me out of contract (I am at 9 months) . Why would Verizon just let me out of contract with one call? Any ideas to why, I just find it odd for it to be that easy?
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Maybe they are working on the whole customer satisfaction thing.
Maybe they want to get as many people off of unlimited contracts as possible. And then when you decide to come back because you see that the other carriers are most likely nowhere as good of signal. Also, I live in a very strong signal area and at times my signal drops for no apparent reason. So, take that for what you will. I'm just saying.
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I second Jaytronics. They want you off your unlimited data contract. If you change your mind and try coming back to an unlimited plan you will probably be screwed.
I very rarely have more than -79, but I don't lose connectivity. Does your phone lose service, or is it just slow internet? If you live in an LTE area, try talking them into a cheap upgrade to Droid Charge.
Anyway, unless you find a better deal somewhere else or you just can't live with your phone the way it is, I'd stick with the unlimited plan you have with Verizon.
Try making that call again and I bet you get a different response....
Just saying Verizon is never consistent and every rep you talk to gives you a different story.
Yeah I am on unlimited data, that's what I was thinking but didn't think that be worth pushing me to another provider, I live in northern MN and its pretty much Verizon or at&t, which I came from cuz there data speeds are much slower even when I have slow internet there still slower...no lte planned here n likely a long long way off....but I am thinking I don't want to loose my unlimited data...I wasn't planning to switch they just kind of pushed the idea...thanks for your input guys..
Heck at&t just got 3g here back in March of this year, Verizon had 3g since July of 2010
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About 3 years ago I moved from Florida to the corner of Southwest Virginia. We went from 10 years of excellent Verizon coverage to next to nothing (our phones actually would die in the middle of the night searching for service). We renewed our contract in March and moved in May. They let us out of the contract fairly easy. All they asked for was a letter stating we had moved.
They were great to work with back then and now Verizon has increased coverage and we came back (thankfully I have the unlimited data plan and won't be backing out of that).
On the subject of slow 3g speeds I have noticed a slow down for the last 2 weeks so far. I normally listen to pandora radio when ever I'm outside exercising and I have had periods where it took 5 minutes or longer for a song to load. I kept checking the 3g status and it was still on and my signal was strong. Before I could get songs to load up and play within seconds of either skipping them or starting the program.
Anyone else notice this?
Sorry for hijacking your thread.
I rather try to find ways to get a free good phone with complaints.
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On the subject of slow 3g speeds I have noticed a slow down for the last 2 weeks so far. I normally listen to pandora radio when ever I'm outside exercising and I have had periods where it took 5 minutes or longer for a song to load. I kept checking the 3g status and it was still on and my signal was strong. Before I could get songs to load up and play within seconds of either skipping them or starting the program.
Anyone else notice this?
Sorry for hijacking your thread.
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I think this problem has been getting worse over a period of time, not exactly sure when, maybe its network congestion ? Too many heavy data users?
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I Am Marino said:
I rather try to find ways to get a free good phone with complaints.
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I may try and attempt to get a new phone out of them, it be sweet if I could get the inc2 or the thunderbolt, possibly one of those would work better, better radio?
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So, its just about time to upgrade to upgrade my Sprint Phone (Evo). I got it coming up in May, unless something changes I might be going with the SG2, just looks great and it has capabilities for LTE as well as Wimax.
I just got a new job that lets me get a discount on T-Mobile, and I after looking at their plans, it would save me a few bucks (literally like 4). I have heard rumors that HSPA+ is slighly faster than Wimax but I never compared the two.
So HSPA+ faster than Wimax?
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I use my phone 90% of the time as a router. My college blocks everything so I am always on tether. I just looked it up and used 16GB last month, and that seems to be the lower average. My point is that Sprint's unlimited truly means unlimited with no caps. T-Mobile throttles after 2GB or 5GB according to the plan. How much of a throttle? Is it significant?
It throttles you down to EDGE speeds, so 2g. Around 20kbps, which won't load a black and white smiley face on your screen for 20 seconds. If you're going to use more than 5GB's per month, stick with Sprint.
T-Mobile throttles at different tiers on different plans, from 100MB-5GB
Speeds on HSPA+ seem to be faster for me on T-Mobile than on Sprint in Portland, Oregon. That could be different for you, but T-Mobile's 42mbps HSPA+ Is closer to LTE than WiMax in my opinion.
In some areas T-Mobile also forcibly compresses all images pulled down in web pages regardless of your data usage and data plan. There is no way to turn this "feature" off.
Well first the SGS2 does not support Wimax and lte...no device does except for a hotspot...
Imho you will be better off not getting the SGS2 and instead using your upgrade on a truly new device that the hardware spec is not a year old almost. That is unless $ is a big factor and you don't want to spend $250ish on a device...
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Did some research and found you are right. It is really disappointing because I had a Sprint tech and a Sprint sales rep tell me point blank that the SG2 was Wimax and LTE. Can't trust people nowadays.
Battery consumption is much better with HSPA+ vs LTE.
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It throttles you down to EDGE speeds, so 2g. Around 20kbps, which won't load a black and white smiley face on your screen for 20 seconds. If you're going to use more than 5GB's per month, stick with Sprint.
T-Mobile throttles at different tiers on different plans, from 100MB-5GB
Speeds on HSPA+ seem to be faster for me on T-Mobile than on Sprint in Portland, Oregon. That could be different for you, but T-Mobile's 42mbps HSPA+ Is closer to LTE than WiMax in my opinion.
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Goes to up to 10.
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In some areas T-Mobile also forcibly compresses all images pulled down in web pages regardless of your data usage and data plan. There is no way to turn this "feature" off.
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False.
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Did some research and found you are right. It is really disappointing because I had a Sprint tech and a Sprint sales rep tell me point blank that the SG2 was Wimax and LTE. Can't trust people nowadays.
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Yeah no problem, didn't want u going out and buying a device being that misled...
It's a shame when that crap happens to ppl.
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Yeah no problem, didn't want u going out and buying a device being that misled...
It's a shame when that crap happens to ppl.
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I used to be a Sprint store technician, and when the Epic Touch had the Loss of Signal issue (which has long been fixed, officially), Sprint's Tech Support over the phone told me that I should have bought an iPhone because Android always breaks. Word for word. I was like, ok so give me an iPhone, I'll give back the Epic Touch. And they said no.
These days you have to fend for yourself unfortunately. Chances are, if you're an XDA user, you know more than a carrier's tech support.
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False.
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Explain. I suffered this issue for four months and had to switch to AT&T to avoid it.
To the OP. I tried switching to t-mobile twice because IMO they have better phones and prices. but both times I had to switch back. my story: i knew tmobile had the 5gb data cap on teh monthly 4g plan i wanted so I checked my sprint data usage for 5 months and noticed i am only using 2-3 gb a month. I figured great so i went and got the Htc amaze after 6 days by data usage was over 1.5 gb. I went to the store and asked them is it possible that the data reading on the phone and website could be wrong? my setup was the same on my sprint evo and my htc amaze so it wasn't a program that could have been using that much data so i returned the phone. 2 weeks later i went back to the store drooling over the amaze but knew i couldn't get it because i would go over the 5gb easy. I spoke with a rep and he said he uses data heavily and never goes over so i said ok ill try it again maybe it was the phone. this time around i didn't tether at all except for 5 min to test it out. hardly used Pandora and made sure my setup was the same as the evo. this time i gave it 10 days and i was already over 3gb. i was half ass using my phone and still i would have been over. I have searched about this called tmobile and haven't come up with a good reason why this phone was using so much data. a buddy of mine went to att and i told him that he would def go over but after a few days he said no man im good . at the end of the month he called *****ing that he went over the att cap which was even lower than tmobile. until the come up with a prepaid plan that gives 10gb i have to stay away. oh yea and when they throttle you the above comments are correct its edge speed and way to slow for anything but email and light web surfing.
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I just looked it up and used 16GB last month, and that seems to be the lower average. My point is that Sprint's unlimited truly means unlimited with no caps. T-Mobile throttles after 2GB or 5GB according to the plan. How much of a throttle? Is it significant?
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I think this will be the main issue.
When I pass 5GB, I get throttled to EDGE (2G) speeds. For most purposes this is like running out of data. You're going to be stuck at 2GB or 5GB. Email is fine at EDGE speeds - anything else requires too much speed.
Stick with Sprint, as it seems the savings aren't really significant, anyway.
IMO Sprint sucks if you're not in a Wimax area and the Wimax isn't that great anyway.. Sprint's EVDO network is an absolute JOKE. I figured since I'm not covered by Wimax I'd switch my E4GT to Boost to save money, but Boost's(Sprint's) EVDO was nowhere near as fast as T-Mobile's 3G.. It really sucks because my E4GT is hands down the best phone I've ever used, but the internet is almost unusable it's so slow.. I'm putting it up for sale soon to switch back to T-Mobile.
Speeds really depend on where you live. I have spotty 4g in my area but never need it. at my house i have to use wifi but in most places i can stream Pandora without any buffering. everyone always talks about speed but as long as you can stream music and video without and buffering whats the issue? unless you are tethering to your pc and downloading torrents speeds over 250kps will stream just fine.
This is how Verizon does it:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDxJoGv3FLA&feature=channel
Now that is throttling right there. They send me a new phone and it does the same. They have lied to me 3 times now, one that was just needed a reset, that I just needed a new phone and they don't throttle. I had only used 12GB and they do that. OK thats BS
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IMO Sprint sucks if you're not in a Wimax area and the Wimax isn't that great anyway.. Sprint's EVDO network is an absolute JOKE. I figured since I'm not covered by Wimax I'd switch my E4GT to Boost to save money, but Boost's(Sprint's) EVDO was nowhere near as fast as T-Mobile's 3G.. It really sucks because my E4GT is hands down the best phone I've ever used, but the internet is almost unusable it's so slow.. I'm putting it up for sale soon to switch back to T-Mobile.
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Gonna be leaving right before the network takes a giant improvement with the network vision deployment set to be complete by end of next year....3G speeds 1-3Mbps....most all 3G coverage blanketed by LTE.....
Check S4GRU.com for some details on the rollout schedule. This isn't the sprint.com/network crap that's shown this is completely different and involves backhaul changes from the ancient T1 based to microwave/fiber based...
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T-mobile rocks over Sprint for data, coverage and price
flexte said:
To the OP. I tried switching to t-mobile twice because IMO they have better phones and prices. but both times I had to switch back. my story: i knew tmobile had the 5gb data cap on teh monthly 4g plan i wanted so I checked my sprint data usage for 5 months and noticed i am only using 2-3 gb a month. I figured great so i went and got the Htc amaze after 6 days by data usage was over 1.5 gb. I went to the store and asked them is it possible that the data reading on the phone and website could be wrong? my setup was the same on my sprint evo and my htc amaze so it wasn't a program that could have been using that much data so i returned the phone. 2 weeks later i went back to the store drooling over the amaze but knew i couldn't get it because i would go over the 5gb easy. I spoke with a rep and he said he uses data heavily and never goes over so i said ok ill try it again maybe it was the phone. this time around i didn't tether at all except for 5 min to test it out. hardly used Pandora and made sure my setup was the same as the evo. this time i gave it 10 days and i was already over 3gb. i was half ass using my phone and still i would have been over. I have searched about this called tmobile and haven't come up with a good reason why this phone was using so much data. a buddy of mine went to att and i told him that he would def go over but after a few days he said no man im good . at the end of the month he called *****ing that he went over the att cap which was even lower than tmobile. until the come up with a prepaid plan that gives 10gb i have to stay away. oh yea and when they throttle you the above comments are correct its edge speed and way to slow for anything but email and light web surfing.
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I picked up my HTC Amaze (a 42.2 mbps device) on T-mobile in early January, and I live in a California city that has T-mobile HSPA+ 42.2 mbps coverage, just to be clear. When I bought my Amaze, I had to re-up my contract and at the time, I was asked to choose between a 5GB plan per month ($25 on top of the monthly $40 value plan) and a 10GB plan per month ($50 + my $40 value plan). So for price, it is impossible to beat T-mobile for the service you get.
I use my Amaze daily to go online, download and upload large files (I am a graphic designer) and watch videos and stream music. For the last 5 months I've had my phone, I've come close to 5GB twice. That is with heavy usage and this last month having a nearly two hour Skype conversation with a friend of mine where I used 2GB in one sitting!!! I also use my phone with the free WiFi Hotspot feature that comes with the 5GB & 10GB data plan as my computer's internet provider. I don't have a physical cable in my house, just my Amaze.
As far as speed, my friends with iPhones on ALL 3 NETWORKS (Sprint, Verizon and AT&T) all get slower speeds than I do. I was challenged by them and shut them all up in contests against google searches, Siri vs Google Voice Search and Speedtest.net. I have also speedtested the nicer handsets by Samsung and HTC running on AT&T and matched or beat them in my city in a few places around town. Sprint's speed was not even on the radar, barely chugging at 1mbps usually. I pull over 12 mbps usually everywhere I go, with upload speeds from 5-8 mbps on average.
As far as data, I have never gone over my 5GB but see how others could, and I bet when T-mobile gets LTE Advance up and running I'll add in the extra 5 gigs.
The greater points I'm making are the following:
A) Sprint's network it a sham. Even when they finally get around to offering LTE in California, which will be who-knows-when, T-mobile will have switched on its LTE advanced release 10 network, with HSPA+ 42.2 mbps backup, nationally. If you're a Sprint user, jump ship now or when T-mobile lights it up in 2013.
B) It's pretty darn hard to use up 5 Gigs per month if your not a power user. I don't know how someone with the HTC Amaze and the Usage monitor that is part of T-mobile's apps and in the HTC phone itself can't determine what was eating up data. That just doesn't make sense. You can easily pinpoint what's using your data by using the included Usage setting on your phone. And if 5GB isn't enough, get 10! But that option does exist.
C) T-mobile may not offer unlimited data speed at 4G, but get a 10GB plan and you will fly over the speeds you get on Sprint and save money while doing it. You could pay one price on Sprint for 1.5 mbps download speed unlimited (SLOW), or you could pay the same, maybe a little less and get 10GB at 4G speeds on T-mobile... and then in 2013 enjoy them lighting up a national LTE advance network that will arguably be the speediest LTE network on the planet.
D) The HTC Amaze is one bad-ass MoFo of a phone.
That is all.
for me i switched from t-mobile to boost because of their lack of 3g/4g in my town on t-mobile i was always on edge it is very slow, i switched to boost and i have EvDO now, its not the best of the best but atleast i can open a website now without my screen timing out. :good:
Product F(RED) said:
I used to be a Sprint store technician, and when the Epic Touch had the Loss of Signal issue (which has long been fixed, officially), Sprint's Tech Support over the phone told me that I should have bought an iPhone because Android always breaks. Word for word. I was like, ok so give me an iPhone, I'll give back the Epic Touch. And they said no.
These days you have to fend for yourself unfortunately. Chances are, if you're an XDA user, you know more than a carrier's tech support.
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You know what, they did the same thing to my dad. There was a hardware issue with his OG evo (a great phone during its day) where the speaker was going too quiet. The sales guy basically was telling him how it's because it's an android phone, how much better iphone is, etc.
Honestly I think the reason they are doing this is because they literally bet their future on the iphone. They are guaranteed to be paying apple 16 billion dollars over the next 4 years, regardless of whether or not they actually sell that much money worth of iphones. You better believe that they are going to try their damndest to sell them.
Anyways, I'm thinking of ditching sprint for t-mobile myself. I live in phoenix, which has zero 4g coverage from sprint. Several years back they told me that they would be deploying wimax here shortly. Where are we now? Nowhere.
I called them earlier today to cancel one of my lines, and they kept asking me if I want to use it for a data card, or if I just wanted to hold on to it "just in case" etc. I told the lady that I am thinking of switching to t-mobile, gave her all of these reasons why, and she brings up the "unlimited data" talking point. I kind of chuckle under my breath, and then tell her that their 3g service is really slow, their 4g service barely compares to other carrier's 3g service, and finally, they don't even offer 4g in my area, which is the 6th largest city in the US. She then tells me that they are going to be offering it here soon, so I tell her that that's what they told me a few years ago.
Yeah there are "rumors" that phoenix is due early in their second rollout, however similar rumors kept surfacing about wimax coming to phoenix next an entire year after it finished rolling out everywhere else. Other smaller towns outside of the valley (and I mean like over 70 miles away) got it, but not in the valley area.
In any case, I am on my third "4g" phone, and still have not ever had 4g. Even if LTE came soon to my area, I'm not terribly excited about it, mainly because the LTE gnex has a quarter of the battery life of the HSPA version when both are actively using 4g. I don't care if LTE is 10% faster, it's a huge f*cking battery drain.
Anyways, I'm not a heavy data user, so 4g hasn't been a huge priority to me. What is annoying is how I have to fight sprint's billing department every other month because they always manage to screw up something on my bill and overcharge me. I've been dealing with this for the last 7 years and I am tired of it. Sprint sucks, 'nuff said.
I really want to jump off of sprint, but I am hesitant because I don't know if t-mobile's voice service is more spotty, because according to sensorly their coverage is about 80% of that of sprint in my area. However, t-mobile would save me $40 a month, and because of the company I work for, I will have the activation fee waived.
Sprint coverage is so spotty. According to the coverage map I'm suppose to get 4g in my neighborhood and I don't. 98% percent of the time I'm on slow 3g. With T-Mobile I'm on 4g everywhere I go and its a good feeling to pull out your phone and handle your business with ease and speed unlike sprint.
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