How much data can you actually obtain from an app/game? - Android Software Development

I mean in terms of user habits. Can you:
- find out when the user is using your app/playing your game
- where they are geographically located (assuming they accept this prior to install)
- what the user has done in your game/app (as in what level they are at for games, or what data they searched for in your app)
- how often they click the banner ads in your app (if you own the banner ad for example)
- which banner ads they click (if you own the banner ad for example)
Thanks for your time guys!

yes, and that's not even the tip of the iceberg.
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lol, nice pic.
so any anyone shed some light or recommend any articles which would tell me what type of info an android app can take ?
or a iphone app for that matter.

i don't like the way this conversation is going. if your intentions were good, fair and honest, you'd be asking 'how to make this kicking app', not 'how to monitor my users'. the first bit comes before the second one. and the second bit is just basic knowledge that you'd use from the first one.

Im doing this because I am writing a research report on app privacy. I am a Ph.D student. I have no programming background to ever create an app. I am just trying to post on forums with knowledgeable people like this one to gain a bit more understanding of the privacy issues of the iPhone vs. Android.
If you would not like to post here, please feel free to PM me.
Thank You.

it's very simple. look at the docs for android, think how it could be used to monitor users, et voila. an app could have total access to the phone meaning all data that is on it could be monitored by an app. whether the user will use your app that wants all these permissions is unlikely and you really are asking a pointless question.
you are a phd student, i'll assume you can think for yourself, and so you sh/could be researching this for yourself by reading the docs (mind you, you will have to think though). no one is going to come out and say juicy things like "well, if you do this, you can get this info and this info and use it to do this" because it's probably going to be illegal. it's your paper, your credit, think man, think.

misc86;13318741I have no programming background to ever create an app[/QUOTE said:
well, you need at least the basic understandings you'll gain from (again) reading the android documentation. it's open source, you could (heck) even read the source code.
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misc86 said:
Im doing this because I am writing a research report on app privacy. I am a Ph.D student. I have no programming background to ever create an app. I am just trying to post on forums with knowledgeable people like this one to gain a bit more understanding of the privacy issues of the iPhone vs. Android.
If you would not like to post here, please feel free to PM me.
Thank You.
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Defcon video about privacy
http://vimeo.com/14980971
Watch that (very informative), then maybe read:
Google Analytics
http://code.google.com/mobile/analytics/docs/
Flurry: company used by a lot of apps to do in-app tracking
http://www.flurry.com/product/analytics/index.html
Maybe check out AdMob's site too.
My site - 13 page permission guide
http://alostpacket.com/2010/02/20/how-to-be-safe-find-trusted-apps-avoid-viruses/
Also Android Police is a decent site for security news (IMO).
I also just released an app that's a guide for people new to Android about permissions but I dont think I'm supposed to link to it here.
Google "PocketPermissions" and some links should turn up to read about it if you want.

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[IDEA][DEVS NEEDED][Probably BOUNTY] Tumblr for Windows Mobile - First sketch!!!

The blogging-service Tumblr is really great but it would be even better if we had a mobile application (like the iPhone guys do).
I´m no developer myself but I hope someone could help. Of course I´m prepared to donate and I think others are as well.
[For users:]
If you are prepared to donate please post the amount you would donate, if the app delivers you needs and wishes.
[Bounty so far:]
20€ by me for a fully functional, good looking app.
10$ by hrhnick for full dashboard experience
[For devs:]
Here is the API documentation, seams like normal HTTP requests and some XML.
I could help with graphics as well (if needed). Here is a first sketch how the app could look like, I simply took the graphics from the official site and put them together in Photoshop.
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def interested. i'd donate for the full tumblr dashboard experience. $10 USD
Maybe everyone adds the amount of money he/she is willing to donate!
Posted a first sketch of how the UI could look like. Basically I think a mobile app of a service that already exists should always resemble the look. I´m not sure how far my sketch is doable in reality (I´d say that depends on the dev ^^) but basic things like the logo or the colors are realistic.
Screenshot from the opensource app "OpenTumblr"
Its pretty much scaled to the right small factor, and runs on Windows, Linux, and Mac. Maybe a dev could port/modify it to PPC?
I don't use tumblr but any thoughts on using a java version? Here are two:
http://www.daneshzaki.com/post/42011810/tumblej1-1
http://code.google.com/p/tumblrj/downloads/list
I hate Java...nevertheless I will try it, thanks for the tip.
EDIT: Ok, I did a bit of binging and found a Windows-client based on .NET; maybe this Open-Source app could provide the basis for a mobile .NET app!
http://feedfeast.com/wintumblr/
im so jealous with Iphone users because they have this app for free.. but i can still donate 10$ for using this apps.. this is the best UI that Tumblr client should have..
have now become opensource!
let the magic begin devs!
http://feedfeast.com/wintumblr
the bounty is too low
to be honest, no dev in the right mind will go for a mere 50 dollar bounty which asks for a full function. i'm writing one right now and to include the full dashboard experience with only a 10 dollar and 20 uero promise is crazy.i have better luck posting it in market place when its done later, even with cut down funtionality and sell it at 2.99.
update,
just studied the source for wintumblr and for the moment, i think an app for posting is totally achievable, but for an app with dashboard... might take longer.
now i have a working text and photo posting function. its enough for me. will post screenies from the device emulator later.
I tried both of the java ones on my HD2 and when it asks if I want to install, it attempts to then says the file is corrupt. :/
Tumblr
bevoc said:
to be honest, no dev in the right mind will go for a mere 50 dollar bounty which asks for a full function. i'm writing one right now and to include the full dashboard experience with only a 10 dollar and 20 uero promise is crazy.i have better luck posting it in market place when its done later, even with cut down funtionality and sell it at 2.99.
update,
just studied the source for wintumblr and for the moment, i think an app for posting is totally achievable, but for an app with dashboard... might take longer.
now i have a working text and photo posting function. its enough for me. will post screenies from the device emulator later.
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I can offer some help , basically I develop for .net3.5 framework , not for compact framework, but still. ojosdegris (at) gmail dot com
Is this project now dead?
i really wish they made a tumblr app for htc hd2

Take care ...

We have the surprise to see our thème on a site without ask or permission. We can call that " piracy methods".
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Hi mobilecustom france host probex themes whitout a link to smartphonejunkie or giving credit all the attachments are hosted on there site whe have always providet link to your site and give full credit its freeware if you dont like your theme posted on ohterforums then dont releas them you guys making big deal out of this even banging or servers WHIT NOW RESULT when mobile custom fr better ***** I AM GONE POST THIS ON ANY SITE YOU POST THIS ONE AND SAYING WHE ASK MONEY FOR YOUR SKINS YOU LIE WHE DONT DO THAT
Its funny. Your ethics as a human. You lack being. You say we steal for what? Probex is way better then anyone you have. Any day of the week. Your creations are posted on the internet making them public domain. We do not steal as you claim. Any thing our members ever post on spj. Has been and is monitored to have full throwback to authors' site post originated from.Nothing is hosted on our site. but as our Sr admin weesje pointed out you Take probex work. change file names and all. Then host his work. Come on i call it like i see it.You are in the Wrong.....then you try to attack our site? thats why ips were banned.the ones hammering us.don't act like you didn't.I got your ips from it.Your attempt failed.But mine didn't now did it...As both your sites went down. All i need to say on that. respect is given until lines are crossed.Communication is the key to any confrontation. With your mind train the world would be a messed up place. Next time hand this like men.
Sincerely Your friendly neighborhood
Kaos Head Sr. admin
yea i just posted here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4456065&postcount=150 and made a video of the forum showing the links i will spread this all over the place how dare you...spread such lies and rumors..You dont know what you started there you frenchie
They seem to travel in packs GERDEL, so watch out lol.
I close the subject.
GERDEL said:
I close the subject.
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well this is dash from spj and you lcose and run now and dont confront that you went down... well i got news for you, probex has ties with microsoft, naught by nature and many other places that support his work and own the rights to it..... you crossed the lines by repacking and stealing this COPYWRITED WORK, you will be in for a good time when you get stuff hit against you!! have fun frenchie hahahhaa
Grow up Dash, I've seen alot of stuff in Probex's themes which aren't his work, like the ThrottleLock buttons.
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Grow up Dash, I've seen alot of stuff in Probex's themes which aren't his work, like the ThrottleLock buttons.
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lol If it isn't im sure probex give credit. As for what they repacked and reposted it was. Bottom line.Just know this what was done is done.Probex is signed by ms for his tf2 themes for work of tp2.. All his work .Including what they repacked is copywrite protected. By ms. Lawyers are already on it.what was done was wrong majorly on other partys end. That has been proven. Mod can close this thread.
lol Lawers when authorisation is given , translation too was authorised
don't speak when you don't know
see my preceding answer or probably like modos on SMJ you see only what you want to see
credit is given to probex : see in the titles : By PROBEX , or you are blind when it is not your writing
Totallly stupid discussion , no sense with you
XDA's people will appreciate :
Thread closed by request of OP.

Ad's in your Notification bar!

http://phandroid.com/2011/04/30/air...tification-pane-and-why-i-think-its-horrible/
read and watch the video, I think its total bull****.
They can try that crap if they want to...there's gonna be an app or mod to remove them the next day
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This will fail so hard...
I will NEVER install any app that includes this feature. Greedy developers that use this will never get my good rating.
XPLANE9 said:
I will NEVER install any app that includes this feature. Greedy developers that use this will never get my good rating.
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Which authority states who is greedy and who isn't?
You people complain way too much. Don't download the apps if you don't like it.
http://www.martinadamek.com/2011/04/28/apndroid-is-suspended-on-the-android-market/
Nothing to worry about. Dumb idea is dumb idea.
Yellow C6 said:
http://www.martinadamek.com/2011/04/28/apndroid-is-suspended-on-the-android-market/
Nothing to worry about. Dumb idea is dumb idea.
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1 thing I learned from that link...
If about a few hundred of us get together and report a specific app malicious it gets auto removed haha
LOL
What is the world coming to...?
Airpush is nothing but adware in my opinion. Infecting your system with advertsements in places they shouldnt be.
Also if people that make malicious software start implementing airpushs code to access the notification bar.... Thatd really be frustrating.
I for one would NEVER download an app that uses this method to advertise. The developers deserve to make money, but not by annoying the hell out of the consumer.
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xriderx66 said:
1 thing I learned from that link...
If about a few hundred of us get together and report a specific app malicious it gets auto removed haha
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power of unity
Open Platform is Open. Gonna have to deal with this stuff until Google is intelligent enough to publish Official, Enforced UI guidelines and start policing their marketplace better.
Unbelievable
I hate it when apps put something up there advertising their other apps, I will rage so hard if this pops up one day.
it's one thing to have ads within apps that run on their own, but to inject them into the notification/windowshade is beyond intrusive. no way in hell would I install anything that utilizes this
This is against the market rules.... report any app with this...
Google has already blocked/removed some apps doing this. Personally, I don't think its bad... have a full/clean screen for gaming, and I can just drop-down and clear without my screen being an ad....
o well, just report it.
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This is against the market rules.... report any app with this...
Google has already blocked/removed some apps doing this. Personally, I don't think its bad... have a full/clean screen for gaming, and I can just drop-down and clear without my screen being an ad....
o well, just report it.
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Lol. No, it's not against the rules.
Google only removed the apps because of the number of people that reported them as MALICIOUS. That goes to show how little Google Polices their marketplace, though. They had absolutley no clue about this. It was just an overreaction on their part in those cases.
It's not against market rules, and it's not against the UI guidelines. Google needs to crack down. This would never happen in i.e. iOS or WP7 where they apps are actually checked before allowed to be posted to the marketplace. They'd get rejected in a new york setting.
And there is too much wrong with that. The notification bar is not for Ads. I don't even think Applications like Beejive/Trillian/etc. should be allowed to put their huge "Hi I'm running" things in the notification bar, either. It makes getting to the notifications too clunky esp with how much room these things take on a 4" screen...
^
The app that was removed, the developer wrote a very nice article stating that it violated policy and that is why his app was removed from the market, without any warning.
It is BS, I dont mind having ad during the game (like the flash ad in the browser).
But it is definitely a malware if there is ad popup from my desktop taskbar without opening anything

[How To] Making a Decent Post

XDA depends on posts and threads. Making decent posts and threads is key to helping someone out and making XDA a much better place to be.
The original guide can be found here.
However, I am going to edit a few of these points to better associate it with XDA and forums in general.
To restate, this is not of my creation, and I highly recommend reading the original before reading this thread.
Stephen King has made a career of writing thousand-page-long books about ancient evils haunting divorced writers in Maine that are rich in detail to help the reader get absorbed with the story.
However – spoiler warning – you are not Stephen King. Thus, just because you write a wall of text that doesn’t mean people are going to read it. In fact, it’s a great way to get your post sent directly to the rubbish bin…
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Keep it short and simple. Write it like you would a Tweet, but with better grammar. And pay attention to those squiggly lines – with today’s technology there’s no excuse for bad spelling. Remember in school when they taught you about paragraphs? Use them!
RULE 2: White Space is your Friend.
Along with short and simple, be sure to include white space. Separate your 3 main parts with double spacing. The words themselves aren’t always as important as your formatting and it being easy to read. Think of a sign or a movie poster. Does it convey the information quickly and clearly? Or is it a mess?
RULE 3: Who you are. What you do. What you want.
This is the most important part. 9 times out of 10 you’re not just responding to a thread to say “I love your work” but because you want something. Therefore you need to be very clear about this in your post and not get bogged down in detail.
Your post should include 3 things: your firmware/rom version, your kernel, and what you want. Follow these simple things, and write them with ONE LINE EACH:
1) Your firmware/rom version: MIUI 2.8.28? AOKP Milestone 5?
2) Your kernel and version: Franco 241, Faux 19b6, also include what recovery you are using.
3) What you want. Don’t be afraid to ask because the person already assumes you want something. Just write it as plain and simply as possible. There should be no question as to what you want – one problem with a wall of text is the person might not understand what exactly you’re asking for. Also, search as much as possible before posting.
However you should be somewhat specific, ie, “What are differences between rom X and rom Y?” instead of “What rom is the best?” Roms are different for everyone, so you should really try what you think will fit you best.
Finally, add a brief thanks. I usually include this with the request line, to keep the entire post 3 lines long.
Also, hitting the thanks button when someone answers your post/question is much kinder than just saying "thanks".
Some final tips:
Never post a question you could have researched on your own, especially if it’s outside the expertise of the person. Example: “I see you’ve never modded a rom or theme. How would I go about doing that?” How would I know? I’ve never done it!
Use correct spelling and grammar. Nothing says “I don’t take care in what I do / I can’t afford what I’m asking for” like bad spelling. Also the first word of sentences should be capitalized.
Your first post is a request – not a discussion – so skip the fine details until they reply. A billboard for Pepsi doesn’t list all the ingredients.
A good signature line, with your name, title, company, contact info. Even if it’s made up, it looks official and you’re taken more seriously.
Once again, this guide is not mine, but is taken from the above link and edited to fit XDA.

Let me tell you a story about this app

I FEEL SO LUCKY TO KNOW THIS APP
Hello everyone, today I'm going to tell you a funny story that happened to me. Yesterday, I invited my friends to come and gather. After eating and drinking, we planned to sit and watch a great movie. The problem started when I couldn't find the TV remote. I rummaged everywhere in the house, but I couldn’t find where in the world it was. To be honest, I felt so useless and shy at that time because I kept everyone waiting. I went hurriedly online to find a solution, then I found REMOTE CONTROL on CH Play. With a few simple steps, I was able to connect to the TV, and we could watch movies again. What a bless! Without the help of Remote Control, I don't know where I can hide my face.
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Remote Control also supports connecting many TV brands: Samsung, Sony, LG, Toshiba, Phillips…very quickly. Besides, it arranges the location of connected devices in a reasonable interface from the living room to the bedroom. Such a convenient app! The way you use it is easy as pie, I guarantee anyone can use it because this app supports users to configure settings with the most convenience.
Remote Control is the most versatile and useful app on my phone. With this all-in-one mobile application, you guys don't have to worry about finding the remote like in my case. Just download it for free and connect Remote Control with devices in your house, tRemote Control will take care of the rest your job! Oh, by the way here is the QR and link: https://bit.ly/3G0NOXP
Themes advertised thread! Sad that my AdAway app didn't detect this spam..
Anyway i prefer this Android TV remote app (not hided behind an url shortener):
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n0j0e said:
Themes advertised thread! Sad that my AdAway app didn't detect this spam..
Anyway i prefer this Android TV remote app (not hided behind an url shortener):
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@n0j0e This is a legit thread on XDA and no spam. The download link for the application - you're right it's hidden behind an URL Shortener - refers to a free application on Google Play Store. The used URL shortener is not a pay-per-click, pay-per-view or pay-per-whatever shortener i.e. the use of bit.ly on XDA is allowed. There's no violation of any forum rule.
However, I've removed the link from your post, by which you intended to show your personal preferences. To promote a different application in a thread that presents an application is considered disrespectful towards the threadowner. I suggest to consider to only report posts or threads, from which you think they violate the rules, but not to publicly post your "concerns" in the thread. Thanks for your cooperation!
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Ok maybe a little harsh from me to call it spam, sry! But i didn't understand why it is disrespectful if someone suggest another app with same theme to give maybe a better alternative of this app?
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Ok maybe a little harsh from me to call it spam
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I don't think so. The lame canned intro story gave it away IMHO.
If I invite friends to my house and I don't find the remote, they better all help me find the damn remote. If all else fails, we talk and forget about the TV. What I mean is that the whole created situation is as fake as it gets.
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I don't think so. The lame canned intro story gave it away IMHO.
If I invite friends to my house and I don't find the remote, they better all help me find the damn remote. If all else fails, we talk and forget about the TV. What I mean is that the whole created situation is as fake as it gets.
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Reminds me of the stolen phone "help unlock this phone" threads with the long winded stories of bs ie my dead mom's, uncle's, brother's etc with a lifetime of family photos etc, etc. Long winded meaningless stories is the hallmark of a lot of BSers. They seem to think that adding words adds credibility... it tends to just pi$$ me off instead though. Philly fast talkers, confidence men. Seen them and played with them in the flesh.
Not saying it is, but the OP should stick to the facts. I thought it smelled like spam too
I blew it off because the intro sounded like a come on... and I got bored. OP, word; K-I-S-S.

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