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Nexus One 3G Issues (h/w)

Hi guys.
Please have a look at these reports:
http://www.tmonews.com/2010/01/nexus-one-incurring-3g-problems/
http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/09/google-support-forums-rife-with-nexus-one-3g-complaints-is-this/
http://www.erodov.com/forums/nexus-has-one-major-pr-nightmare-coming-up-3g-issue/28857.html
and the source forum thread:
http://www.google.com/support/forum...c2&hl=en&fid=0bd8ccd4799040c200047c9a22ea5c23
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Is anyone else having spotty 3G coverage where as the same sim is having proper 3G coverage with another device?
Please report back.
Regards.

I haven't noticed any difference here.

mark925 said:
I haven't noticed any difference here.
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Did you compare it with another phone? How many bars of signal?

Mine's getting the same 3G coverage my Cliq was

I've never had 3g problemo's...then again im on wifi most of the time

TFJ4 said:
I've never had 3g problemo's...then again im on wifi most of the time
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Thats the thing with smart phones, being on 3G most of time, you don't realize the 3G speeds.

My 3g was solid when i went int town... ****ty at home but thats what wifi is for
personally i think if there is a problem its with tmobile's network... they just rolled out a new system and their service has never been "verizon" as it is... give it time children... i think everyone just likes to throw a fit about everything for the sake of kickin and screaming

haha i just checked the map around my house and there is like speckles of 3g all around my house but not directly over where my house would be... i get 3g in random parts of my house and edge upstairs in my room... pretty funny that the map of their reflects my situation so well
i cannot wait to get back to tempe, the whole phoenix metro area is one big purple blotch on the coverage map lol

JHaste said:
My 3g was solid when i went int town... ****ty at home but thats what wifi is for
personally i think if there is a problem its with tmobile's network... they just rolled out a new system and their service has never been "verizon" as it is... give it time children... i think everyone just likes to throw a fit about everything for the sake of kickin and screaming
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I totally agree... but have a look:
http://www.twitpic.com/x3zm0
How can the same provider (T-mobile) have 3G in the G1 but Edge on the Nexus One?

Its quite possible though that this is a measure implemented by Google to keep the phone in low power EDGE mode when you are not actively using the data connection? That way the phone lasts a lot longer? Just guessing...

I think it's more of a T-Mobile issue than a N1 issue. I originally ordered it with a T-Mobile SIM/plan, but ended up having to use it with AT&T on EDGE since I couldn't get a signal at all indoors and it dropped down to GRPS when I was inside a restaurant in the middle of Downtown LA!

dsjr2006 said:
I think it's more of a T-Mobile issue than a N1 issue. I originally ordered it with a T-Mobile SIM/plan, but ended up having to use it with AT&T on EDGE since I couldn't get a signal at all indoors and it dropped down to GRPS when I was inside a restaurant in the middle of Downtown LA!
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Did you see the image in the first post? Two phones side by side (both TMob... I am hoping) with one having 3 Bars (3G) and other having 4 bars (EDGE)

KiD0M4N said:
I totally agree... but have a look:
http://www.twitpic.com/x3zm0
How can the same provider (T-mobile) have 3G in the G1 but Edge on the Nexus One?
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not to be a bastard, but how do you know theres not an ATT card in that nexus one?
KiD0M4N said:
Its quite possible though that this is a measure implemented by Google to keep the phone in low power EDGE mode when you are not actively using the data connection? That way the phone lasts a lot longer? Just guessing...
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DING DING DING! i read through a good portion of the google thread at the top and then skimmed the rest and thats what i was thinking may be happening... the guy was playing pandora on 3g with no problem, soon as he gets near it to play around it goes to edge? sounds to me like maybe a power saving mechanism... like the cpu it only uses the high end data rates when necessary, crafty if thats actually what its doing and it is working right... I shall run tests tomorrow when i go into town for dinner and such
personally though, the phone has been out on the streets for like 72 hours... bite your tongue for 10 days straight and if **** still doesnt fly by your book you have 4 days left on that RMA date... iphone release days anyone? att/apple about cried...

JHaste said:
not to be a bastard, but how do you know theres not an ATT card in that nexus one?
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Probably because the Nexus One can't use AT&T 3G network, just 2G.

I've been paying close attention to reception since I got my NOne yesterday, and so far it seems to change at exactly the same times my G1 would. Upstairs 3g is strong, downstairs it drops to EDGE - just like my G1.
The only difference I notice is the NOne does it much faster.

I have a mytouch, G1 and N1 all on tmob and I have 3G on all three all the time, must be certain areas, or larger markets maybe?

NordicZz said:
Probably because the Nexus One can't use AT&T 3G network, just 2G.
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my point exactly... lol

JHaste said:
not to be a bastard, but how do you know theres not an ATT card in that nexus one?
DING DING DING! i read through a good portion of the google thread at the top and then skimmed the rest and thats what i was thinking may be happening... the guy was playing pandora on 3g with no problem, soon as he gets near it to play around it goes to edge? sounds to me like maybe a power saving mechanism... like the cpu it only uses the high end data rates when necessary, crafty if thats actually what its doing and it is working right... I shall run tests tomorrow when i go into town for dinner and such
personally though, the phone has been out on the streets for like 72 hours... bite your tongue for 10 days straight and if **** still doesnt fly by your book you have 4 days left on that RMA date... iphone release days anyone? att/apple about cried...
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True that. Still waiting for ma phone to be delivered Hope it is all well...

JoshHart said:
I have a mytouch, G1 and N1 all on tmob and I have 3G on all three all the time, must be certain areas, or larger markets maybe?
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Thats another possibility as well.
If you all remember, the 3GS used to 'reflect' the fact that it had dropped out of 3G a lot earlier than the 'iPhone 3G' and that lead ppl to believe that the 3GS has poor 3G reception.
Maybe it is a similar situation here...

Anyone having this problem in the UK?

In-home 3G Booster test device!!

The receiver
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The booster
Dear T-Mobile Customer
We have reviewed your recent coverage concern, and you may qualify to be part of a free in-home device trial! The device is designed to boost 3G signal inside your home. We look forward to speaking with you regarding your eligibility...
..contact info, etc..etc...
So I qualified.. The requirements included one bar 3g signal. 3g device, data plan blah... Moderate service, a land line for 911 calls, and single family home.. No apts or highrises I guess..
So I'm in this test group of 1000 lucky tmo customers that get one of these little in home 3g boosters,
Awesome
I'll keep yous guys informed..
Junkdruggler
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Does that means they want to turn your home into a mini cell tower?
I assume other people around you can also receive signal from the device.

You are lucky... make sure you let us know how it goes!

How did you get into this "limited program"
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So yes my house would be a small cell tower... It is a 2 piece design... One half goes where you get the best signal..the other your worst..
I filed a service request with a person on the team from New Mexico that is piloting this "new device"... They enrolled me about 2 weeks ago..
When my package arrives I'm going to post a video and a review.. I'm so stoked, I'm hoping this thing works like she said it would...
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So I got the CEL-FI booster today.. It is the beesknees.. It works better than I could have imagined... Its kinda big but looks prett nice.. I have an unboxing vid but it is hd so I need wifi to upload it to youtube.. Ill post some pics in the op..

Got one in our store a few days ago. It sucks in the store because it can only handle 4 devices at a time... And we have 10+ demo phones... So the slots are always taken. The hand off from booster to network is pretty awful also
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Nice.. You should send it to me
lol jk

connnn said:
Got one in our store a few days ago. It sucks in the store because it can only handle 4 devices at a time... And we have 10+ demo phones... So the slots are always taken. The hand off from booster to network is pretty awful also
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Well coming off a 3g network will kill any connection on tmo... Haven't tested on more than 3 devices but it works well in my house..
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Is there a model number or something? Or whats is device actually called. The signal is terrible in my new area too. Phone only works in certain spots upstairs, and even drops calls outdoors. Definitely going to request one of these...

Did they give you any idea as to the pricing? I've been told by tmo reps that something like this would be released this year at a reasonable cost.

ferhanmm said:
Is there a model number or something? Or whats is device actually called. The signal is terrible in my new area too. Phone only works in certain spots upstairs, and even drops calls outdoors. Definitely going to request one of these...
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It is a Nextivity CEL-FI RS1-4 INDOOR COVERAGE KIT.. Atleast that is what's on the box..
I'm not sure about what pricing will be.. I know that some boosters like this go for about $200+ on the internet..
Here is a brochure..
http://www.google.com/m/url?client=...=4cPGTJjNN8aItgePkcnAAg&gl=us&hl=en&q=http://www.celfihelp.com/Cel-Fi%20Resident...kQFjAD&usg=AFQjCNGIFUHHD89gwV3KHuZnwJpnryqwWQ
And here is the official product page
http://www.nextivityinc.com/product-overview.php
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Subscribed....

junkdruggler said:
It is a Nextivity CEL-FI RS1-4 INDOOR COVERAGE KIT
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Is this like the ATT Femtocell/Microcell? Does it use your home broadband to increase signal.

techboydino said:
Is this like the ATT Femtocell/Microcell? Does it use your home broadband to increase signal.
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It would be compared to a femtocell... I'm not sure how well they work or the signal strength.. This cel-fi receiver works really well.. The signal drops when I go outside.. So it doesn't put out a whole lot of extra signal.. But it is very reliable/consistent..
This uses an existing 3g signal.. It keeps a very constant connection too.. The base fluctuates between 1 and 2 bars and the output box has a 9 for signal output. It dropped down to 4 and 5 last night but I was still getting full service 3g..
I've been able to upload and download files like never before.. This has seriously changed my perspective of tmo... I'm not even in a "true" 3g area.. I get flow over from 2 bigger cities 45 mins north and south of me..
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techboydino said:
Is this like the ATT Femtocell/Microcell? Does it use your home broadband to increase signal.
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although I think you said that this simply repeats an existing 3g signal, can you confirm that this does NOT use your home broadband connection?
Is the repeater in any way connected to your home network?

The repeater is not connected to anything, or plug into anything beside a power cord.. Just uses the existing 3g network
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junkdruggler said:
The repeater is not connected to anything, or plug into anything beside a power cord.. Just uses the existing 3g network
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Awesome - that makes this about 100x better than the ATT and VZW microcells.

junkdruggler said:
The repeater is not connected to anything, or plug into anything beside a power cord.. Just uses the existing 3g network
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It's nothing like a Femtocell, a repeater is a totally different animal.
Anyway what zip do you live in? No 3G is reflected on the coverage map?

Zip code 31525
I am in a "moderate" service area. 2 bars of edge is what they say I should have.. I'm more concerned with the reliability tho... I haven't seen edge inside my house at all..
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T-Mobile Network Issues

Hey, anyone else have network issues with the N1 today? Seems like none of my calls or texts are going through, but I have signal and everything. I went outside to use 3g, worked for a little and then stopped.. So I did a airplane off/on and now the data wont connect. Went back inside it connected again but text and calls wouldnt work.
Anyone else having any issues?
Miui Rod Style

You need to provide more info like your general location. It might be a local issue or trouble with your phone.
I was on my phone all day in calls and data with no problems. I'm in the Chicago area.

Hi.. I have troubles with T-Mobile on 3G... but supposedly there is an issue with my mast in NR1.. I agree...where are you?
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Have you tried turning the phone off then back on? I run into this problem every once in a while. So have others:
http://code.google.com/p/android/is...on&colspec=ID Type Status Owner Summary Stars

In Orlando, Fl ever since Hsdpa rolled out here If been getting little to no 3g here, spoke to a tmob rep and he saying something about no longer connecting to at&t's frequencies so data loss is possible, idk but it needs to get resolved its been a couple of weeks.

i had the same problem yesterday. It only happened to me at home when i left running around town i was able to connect for data. Also it was raining here so maybe that contributed to it

InfamousI said:
In Orlando, Fl ever since Hsdpa rolled out here If been getting little to no 3g here, spoke to a tmob rep and he saying something about no longer connecting to at&t's frequencies so data loss is possible, idk but it needs to get resolved its been a couple of weeks.
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tell me about it man, I was in Orlando this weekend and 3G connection su*ks, since I was using my phone as GPS it was very frustrating. I started messing around with build.prop like crazy but nothing worked.

Happens to me all the time. Especially around evening times. 3-6pm. This is in seattle btw.
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profresh said:
Happens to me all the time. Especially around evening times. 3-6pm. This is in seattle btw.
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Same in Eastern Washington
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I've only had issues in my house, but that's because my house is a service-killer. No bars anywhere downstairs, but almost full 3G bars in my room. lol
Have you tried the new 5.XX series radios yet? I'm running 5.08 and notice little to no data loss or other data issues. There are moments of weirdness, but a quick disable/enable of mobile data does the trick in the most severe of situations.
Gonna upgrade to 5.12 now and see what's different (apparently touchscreen ****ty-ness is fixed). Worth a shot. Use fastboot though, never flash a radio in recovery, leaves too much up to chance.

I feel ya.. I was in universal last night and I had 4-5 bars of 3g and no internet, or at least really slooooow internet when it did work. T mobile needs to ramp up Orlando's and others servers/towers. When too many people use the internet at the same time it kills the towers bandwidth. While at Universal's Horror nights I figure everyone in the 45min-2Hr lines for the houses are using it. So that is bad. But once I left Orlando it worked fine.
Had Froyo Radio... Flashed new 5.12 today one and seems better. At least Agps is working much better.

Glad to know it's not just me. I had been searching on the Internet for people with the same issues and decided to come here. I'm in stl and my data connection will either work or not. Ive tried turning off the phone and then back on, airplane, etc.
Right now it works but it's nowhere near the 4 megs i was pulling last night, its hovering around 500 Kbps when it decides to work. Im sure tmobile is just upgrading some stuff.

Looks like its just Orlando where problem exists.
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Its very frustrating, 3g used to fly here in orlando for, but now im surviving on edge...

melmotion said:
Looks like its just Orlando where problem exists.
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YEEEEEAAAH BOYEEE! I tried to get tickets for Thursday, but that didn't go well lol. Might just take my kayak out to the cove
Lol wayyyyyy off topic, sorry OP

How is this even possible with full bars? Sprint fix your $hit.

Been having similiar results everywhere for 3 months. In nj. Complained many of times and they keep saying there is an outage. BS. your data service is just horrible.
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the full bars is for calls and not data i think

CheesyNutz said:
the full bars is for calls and not data i think
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+1. It is not showing you 3g service...

Doesn't the Speedtest app need location turned on so it can select the most appropriate server for you. Otherwise you get the zero test.

Looks like an outage to me. Crappy service wouldn't get you zero, let alone NeGaTiVe ZeRo!!

Can you access any other internet page? It's possible a route between you and the server you're trying to do a speedtest with is down as well.

cruise350 said:
Doesn't the Speedtest app need location turned on so it can select the most appropriate server for you. Otherwise you get the zero test.
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Nope I just ran speedtest without location turned on.
I don't know where the op is but 3g has been messed up for me tonight. 4g, however, works fine.
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The 3g service is lit up. I just know i cant watch a you tube video if my life depended on it. Email is always late, uploading or dl pic messages 2+ hours sometimes. Web pages ...dial up is faster. I just want out.

Try downloading the 4G, CDMA, GSM & WiFi Map Viewer app from Sensorly.com, and make sure to turn GPS on

rstuckmaier said:
Looks like an outage to me. Crappy service wouldn't get you zero, let alone NeGaTiVe ZeRo!!
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Im really tired of.that excuse from them.
donatom3 said:
Can you access any other internet page? It's possible a route between you and the server you're trying to do a speedtest with is down as well.
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I doubt it...its consistent with these type of results for months. Notice dates and results.

skillzo1 said:
Im really tired of.that excuse from them.
I doubt it...its consistent with these type of results for months.
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months ? come on stop the bull****

skillzo1 said:
Im really tired of.that excuse from them.
I doubt it...its consistent with these type of results for months.
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I never assume when I'm trying to troubleshoot an issue. I'd try to go to a couple of pages in the browser first if they don't connect you may have a sprint issue. I've had the app do this to me to when I was perfectly able to connect to actual sites.

Welcome to my world

CheesyNutz said:
months ? come on stop the bull****
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post # 10 no bs
donatom3 said:
I never assume when I'm trying to troubleshoot an issue. I'd try to go to a couple of pages in the browser first if they don't connect you may have a sprint issue. I've had the app do this to me to when I was perfectly able to connect to actual sites.
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NO pages will load. I hear you on assuming, so i'm going to try to put them to rest. They are sending me another phone just incase it is my phones antenna. Maybe i am wrong. But after reading about all the bad 3g speeds, again i doubt it will fix. Maybe for a few days but then starting all over.

SSjon said:
Try downloading the 4G, CDMA, GSM & WiFi Map Viewer app from Sensorly.com, and make sure to turn GPS on
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I will try that but that will kill my battery faster.

skillzo1 said:
I will try that but that will kill my battery faster.
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It would give you an idea if your in a dead spot seeing what other sprint users are getting for signal. Or if it is just your phone.

Just where in Jersey are you?
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i have been having the same problem here in WI. befere i had my EVO i was on a HERO with everything working ok(slow phone but at least data worked). but, now when i switched to the EVO i no longer had a data connection. the phone wont load any pages; its been a month now.
i have been in contact with sprint about the issue but they arent helping really. i keep receiving error code 104 "sign in failed". sprint claims "software problem" but i dont see how that could be. I used the most recent available RUU and then OTA the latest 3.70.651.1 and still nothing. i even rooted and tried flashing earlier radios with no change. also updating profile and reprovisioning data did nothing. so if nothing changes fast i want to be refunded all this time i have been without data.

My Sprint 3G speeds are balls-deep in fail. I have a Droid 2 on VZW and for fun I ran a speed test tonight and came up with:
.24 mbps download / .05 upload / 299 Ping from Sprint and
.95 mbps download / .25 upload / 128 Ping from VZW
I'm wondering if it's a nationwide issue? My 3G speeds have been incredibly laggy in loads of places (it's embarrassingly slow in comparison to even T-Mobile?! at some points). Hoping it's not a permanent issue of some sort.

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Just where in Jersey are you?
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Bayonne=home...newark/irvington= work. Highly populated areas as they are all 5 min from manhatten.

Phone signal in basement

Hey, I'm currently working with a HTC HD2 with a Froyo Android on it and having difficulties in the basement.
I've recently moved into a new rental house (am a University student) and was given a room in the basement (not much choice there since I signed up late for housing). Anyways I've noticed I get 1-2 bars in the basement which is fine (so I thought) but I'm not receiving any text or phone calls! Whenever I walk outside with my phone there's multiple texts waiting for me and whenever I meet my parents they question why I never pick up the phone (I dont even have missed calls showing).
Now with my closest friends I have whatsapp/fb chat/google talk which is fine but for employers who I give my resume to, or friends I occasionally meet up with they have no way to contact me :S so was wondering if there's any way to boost my signal in the basement?
I've read about a few signal boosters and repeaters but they are costing hundreds of dollars which is out of my price range but really do need to fix something or my social life is going down the drain next semester :S
Thanks in advance

forgot to mention, it wont even send texts as well at two bars... so sad T__T

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am a University student
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really do need to fix something or my social life is going down the drain next semester
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Says it all really
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Go outside. Solves both your social life problem and signal problem.

Maybe AT&T will have better signal and you can just switch to like Straight Talk.
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Hey just downloaded a signal booster app last nite (Fresh Network) and it doesn't fix the problem completely... but if i hold the phone exactly above my mini-fridge and send texts they usually go through after 3-4 attempts which is nice but sad to see there's no better solutions

aerok5 said:
Hey just downloaded a signal booster app last nite (Fresh Network) and it doesn't fix the problem completely... but if i hold the phone exactly above my mini-fridge and send texts they usually go through after 3-4 attempts which is nice but sad to see there's no better solutions
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Signal booster apps are a scam. I hope you didn't pay for it.
You should connect it to a strong wifi network and use wifi calling.

Mr.Mischief said:
Signal booster apps are a scam. I hope you didn't pay for it.
You should connect it to a strong wifi network and use wifi calling.
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Hey, no didn't pay for it but I personally disagree. It feels like it does help (although the difference isn't very much)
And yea was debating on going pure WiFi but seems like a lot of hassle to have two different numbers, or is there a way to keep same number?? Sorry not very sure how WiFi networks work, if you could recommend a good one that'd be great

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Hey, no didn't pay for it but I personally disagree. It feels like it does help (although the difference isn't very much)
And yea was debating on going pure WiFi but seems like a lot of hassle to have two different numbers, or is there a way to keep same number?? Sorry not very sure how WiFi networks work, if you could recommend a good one that'd be great
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Most T-Mobile smartphones have built in wifi calling. No porting or different numbers. You just connect to a wifi network and enable it in the settings.
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checked under settings and no luck thanks anyways mite get roomies to chip in for a used network extender (cheapest i found was around $60 which isn't all that bad)
thanks again

aerok5 said:
checked under settings and no luck thanks anyways mite get roomies to chip in for a used network extender (cheapest i found was around $60 which isn't all that bad)
thanks again
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The HTC HD2 is a Windows phone, right? I believe only T-Mobile Blackberry and Android phones support UMA.
Read: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=843433&page=6