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Questions about Froyo...

So I have rooted my N1 and have cyanogen, when froyo comes out and I decide i want to try it out, do i have to upload the original rom and then upgrade? or what is the best way to do it? so i can go back to cyanogen if i decide i like it better? trying to keep it as simple as possible...Thanks!!!

You don't have to do anything. It will come out as an OTA, Cyanogen will get his hands on it immediately if not a few days before the release and it will be incorporated into his ROM. You will likely have an updated version from him based on Froyo including all his extra goodies before the stock OTA is even 100% rolled out [they usually do it over a couple days].

spectrum21 said:
So I have rooted my N1 and have cyanogen, when froyo comes out and I decide i want to try it out, do i have to upload the original rom and then upgrade? or what is the best way to do it? so i can go back to cyanogen if i decide i like it better? trying to keep it as simple as possible...Thanks!!!
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FroYo will be released in June.
Google I/O is next Wednesday.
http://code.google.com/events/io/2010/
2.2 will be leaked next Wednesday.
We will get it.
And laugh at people who haven't rooted.
P.S. Is it just me or does this question come up a lot? And probably will increase over the next few days/weeks...

Paul22000 said:
FroYo will be released in June.
Google I/O is next Wednesday.
http://code.google.com/events/io/2010/
2.2 will be leaked next Wednesday.
We will get it.
And laugh at people who haven't rooted.
P.S. Is it just me or does this question come up a lot? And probably will increase over the next few days/weeks...
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Where do you get June from? I'm just curious because I clicked the link and I didn't see it.

ChillRays said:
Where do you get June from? I'm just curious because I clicked the link and I didn't see it.
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From Adobe. Check this out:
http://blogs.adobe.com/conversations/2010/04/moving_forward.html
We look forward to delivering Flash Player 10.1 for Android smartphones as a public preview at Google I/O in May, and then a general release in June. From that point on, an ever increasing number and variety of powerful, Flash-enabled devices will be arriving which we hope will provide a great landscape of choice.
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Flash requires 2.2, so a "general release" in June would mean that 2.2 would arrive sometime before then or concurrently.
Either way, we (rooters) will get both much, much earlier.

Thanks paul. I hope theres a ton of youtube videos that come from that convention.
I hope froyo has this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ae01yz5z99E
Also if you get bored, watch that video over again with closed captoning, very funny =)

I doubt google is bundling Flash with the AOSP code. That would mean adobe is making flash open source(not happening) or google is locking up android(not happening). With all the talk about decoupling the android OS, the chances of something like a video player being bundled to the main OS update happening are very very very minute.

Flash will be a separate .apk, but the OS will need the frameworks to support it.

Paul22000 said:
FroYo will be released in June.
Google I/O is next Wednesday.
http://code.google.com/events/io/2010/
2.2 will be leaked next Wednesday.
We will get it.
And laugh at people who haven't rooted.
P.S. Is it just me or does this question come up a lot? And probably will increase over the next few days/weeks...
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Just wondering why you say that 2.2 will be leaked during the I/O?

paulk_ said:
Just wondering why you say that 2.2 will be leaked during the I/O?
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It irritates me because he states it as a blatant fact, where it should be said as something less direct. It is a possibility.. but it isn't exactly set in stone to happen - especially with how Google has been so closed about this release.
Froyo being leaked would be a god send, but I won't be holding my breath, simply to be suffocated at the end.

Why do you guys think flash requires 2.2? It comes incorporated into 2.2 but if you have 2.1 you will be able to install the apk and be good. Adobe said flash is coming to android 2.0 and above.
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p-slim said:
Why do you guys think flash requires 2.2? It comes incorporated into 2.2 but if you have 2.1 you will be able to install the apk and be good. Adobe said flash is coming to android 2.0 and above.
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It requires 2.2. For a laugh I tried the flashplayer apk on my stock 2.1 installation and the package failed.

so will my rooted nexus still get the 2.2 froyo when it comes out? or do I have to relock it.
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mduber said:
so will my rooted nexus still get the 2.2 froyo when it comes out? or do I have to relock it.
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Lord, how many people are going to ask this question?

ChillRays said:
Lord, how many people are going to ask this question?
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Oh you have no idea. When 2.2 launches there is going to be a LANDSLIDE of "OMG why dont i haev over the air update!?!?!" threads.

Read mang read... this thread only has 2pages
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so will my rooted nexus still get the 2.2 froyo when it comes out? or do I have to relock it.
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mortzz said:
It requires 2.2. For a laugh I tried the flashplayer apk on my stock 2.1 installation and the package failed.
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so you have the froyo leak and the flash apk, and you are confirming that flash will not work on 2.1? if this is the case the people in the ppcgeek forum waiting for the evo and the incredible forum are going to be highly upset until their phone is rooted.

p-slim said:
so you have the froyo leak and the flash apk, and you are confirming that flash will not work on 2.1? if this is the case the people in the ppcgeek forum waiting for the evo and the incredible forum are going to be highly upset until their phone is rooted.
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Yep, at least not in its current state.
(That's what they get for buying SenseUI!)

its going to suck having to load everything back on to my phone, since this isn't a cyanogen update we will have to wipe everything. then its going to suck when cyanogen comes out with his rom a week or 2 later then we will have to wipe everything again to load cyanogen rom

mortzz said:
Oh you have no idea. When 2.2 launches there is going to be a LANDSLIDE of "OMG why dont i haev over the air update!?!?!" threads.
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I credit this to the lack of good stickies in this forum. Ok maybe I should change the word "good" to "useful" stickies. But there really should be a good Q&A sticky to answer everybody's question so that they don't ask it again in a new thread. For example: how many posts have you seen recently that ask "how do I root my phone?".. not many (unless its people panicing because they think they've bricked their phone) and thats because of that sticky at the top. I'm sure Paul will put together a guide (someday) and it will be at the top in no time.
Mod edit: I will pass your suggestion to the responsible forum mods.

sooo, anyone else *#*#checkin#*#* yet?

I know I am not the only one... man, when Froyo came out it was OCD.

As far as I know, gingerbread isn't even out yet. Just the sdk.

twflys said:
I know I am not the only one... man, when Froyo came out it was OCD.
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Naw not really
Pretty sure Google wants to have the Nexus S come out first on the 16th and then OTA the update to us on the 17th or so

Yeah, ask again next Thursday. No reason to believe we'll see it before then.

pfmiller said:
Yeah, ask again next Thursday. No reason to believe we'll see it before then.
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Unless the famous Football has anything to do with it. If I don't see a leak for the nexus by next wednesday, I'd be surprised
I'm pretty wrapped up in senseui 2.0 right now, gingerbread can wait

What's the point of waiting just for the next day to release the ota for n1? There's no real gain in that for google.

I suspect we'll have to wait longer than 1 day.

geemaan said:
What's the point of waiting just for the next day to release the ota for n1? There's no real gain in that for google.
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How about they sell more Nexus S devices because geeks can't wait to get their hands on Gingerbread so they rush out to buy the phone anyways? Surely we all know it's coming to the Nexus S but look at the thread title, people are going nuts for Gingerbread as it is! LOL
Surely they could just do what Apple does and release the update the day before for the older phones but i guess we'll see

geemaan said:
What's the point of waiting just for the next day to release the ota for n1? There's no real gain in that for google.
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There is a good reason to wait.
Now when the SDK is out all the developers can test their apps against the Gingerbread and fix all the bugs and incompatibilities.
What do you think would happen, if goog realeases their 2.3 update and some popular apps don't work anymore? This forum would literally explode with screams like "fix this immediately or else", "I hate google", "gingerbread killed my cat" and so on. Why google would do that to themselves?

Jw but how is doing the dial in update thing different from the check for updates in the settings?
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There is no check for updates in the settings, that's how.

skunz35 said:
Jw but how is doing the dial in update thing different from the check for updates in the settings?
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I'm sure he's doing both just in case one yields different results. Supposedly I've heard that the Settings Updater doesn't always check, but caches the answer for an allotted time. Doing a "checkin" actually goes out and pings google (or wherever) and comes back with a result after a few seconds. The Settings app just flat out tells you no.

@Rusty is says there is under the about phone section
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skunz35 said:
@Rusty is says there is under the about phone section
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No there isn't. That section doesn't 'check' for updates, it tells you the result of the last system check for updates, which is done automatically, or forced through the dialer.
Going to that part of the settings does not force a check.

Damn, beat me too it Clarky

geemaan said:
What's the point of waiting just for the next day to release the ota for n1? There's no real gain in that for google.
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The point would be so that the Nexus S can be marketed as the first phone with Gingerbread.

Yeah they will probably either delay it to just after Dec 16th or release it some time next week. I'm betting on just after though.

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The point would be so that the Nexus S can be marketed as the first phone with Gingerbread.
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True, but its not like they would lose any buyers anyway.
The N1 is only sold as a dev phone. And how many ppl have a N1? compared to SGS or others...
Also, like when they released froyo...many apps didnt work with 2.2 and had to be updated.
There are alot of devs out there with a N1 as a devphone. Giving out 2.3 before the NS release thus giving time for the devs to update their apps before launch would give android better publicity. And happier customers
I dont know if this is an issue with 2.3 though...
(I know the SDK is out)

I was referring to 1 day vs 1 week or more. More seems more appropriate, as you all say.

The only place I'll be "checkin" with is the Development section chef's.

Atrix 4G: AT&T Software Update for HSUPA in April

http://www.droidmatters.com/news/att-claims-updates-coming-in-april-to-hsupa-for-4g-phones/

Awesome news! Hopefully they will do it on time.
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I'm praying but not holding my breath.

Kick Ass, Sea Bass!!!

This is what scares me though. They obviously capped it for a reason to begin with and now they feel pressure to turn it on and they might not be ready for it so this could turn into a disaster.

Zach from BGR confirms it !

live4nyy said:
This is what scares me though. They obviously capped it for a reason to begin with and now they feel pressure to turn it on and they might not be ready for it so this could turn into a disaster.
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then things get worse and we can sue att easier.

live4nyy said:
This is what scares me though. They obviously capped it for a reason to begin with and now they feel pressure to turn it on and they might not be ready for it so this could turn into a disaster.
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What could it possibly mess up? Icrap 4.0 has been using it for a year. There are a few million out there already. What could the relative few of us hurt?

humm...could this be a good April fools joke?

vista1984 said:
then things get worse and we can sue att easier.
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hahahahah....
He was just crying about not having HSUPA in a previous thread, then we get some confirmation of it being released in April and he makes that comment.

iceman4357 said:
hahahahah....
He was just crying about not having HSUPA in a previous thread, then we get some confirmation of it being released in April and he makes that comment.
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You're a real piece of work you know that? First your over in the Moto forums defending them like you work for them and now you're going to sit here and say I was "crying". Whatever makes you feel better.

I'm just curious but where do you guys get that HSUPA is going to be enabled in April on the Atrix? The AT&T message said that AN UPDATE would be released in April. It didn't say anything about HSUPA in the message. Motorola has already denied that the first update will have HSUPA in it, and that first update is going into testing this last week of March, so it stands to reason that this is the update that will be generally released in April.
The FCC had to redo the licensing paperwork on the Inspire 4G (was on Engadget earlier) for the enabling of HSUPA. Expect that something similar will be seen for the Atrix. Until then, don't hold your breath.
People need to learn how to read!

live4nyy said:
You're a real piece of work you know that? First your over in the Moto forums defending them like you work for them and now you're going to sit here and say I was "crying". Whatever makes you feel better.
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Oh come on bro, Im just ball busting. I wish I worked for moto so I could give everyone the encryption key.

iceman4357 said:
Oh come on bro, Im just ball busting. I wish I worked for moto so I could give everyone the encryption key.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let bygones be bygones and all that....sure, sure. On to the next

phobos512 said:
I'm just curious but where do you guys get that HSUPA is going to be enabled in April on the Atrix? The AT&T message said that AN UPDATE would be released in April. It didn't say anything about HSUPA in the message. Motorola has already denied that the first update will have HSUPA in it, and that first update is going into testing this last week of March, so it stands to reason that this is the update that will be generally released in April.
The FCC had to redo the licensing paperwork on the Inspire 4G (was on Engadget earlier) for the enabling of HSUPA. Expect that something similar will be seen for the Atrix. Until then, don't hold your breath.
People need to learn how to read!
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BGR confirmed it by one of their sources:
http://www.bgr.com/2011/03/25/atrix-4g-and-inspire-4g-will-get-hsupa-next-month/

My question, do we need to unroot? Then re-root the phone after update?

princeandy63 said:
My question, do we need to unroot? Then re-root the phone after update?
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My thoughts as well. Will root affect our ability to receive this (or any) update? If not rooted, should we wait until after this update? Regardless of the update, will rooting prevent receiving them in the future?
Thanks

I wonder how easy it is to port the update to the Bell Atrix? I doubt bell will be releasing these patches even remotely after AT&T.
Maybe I should have gotten an AT&T model....

I was selected for the beta update they're doing now and Im rooted, adeo, and webtop mod none of these stopped me from receiving the OTA update but the webtop mod did stop me from installing it
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My only concern currently is if the webtop over HDMI hack will work after any updates. I gotta assume they are going to fix that. Hopefully this update also addresses the voice quality issues as well. But maybe that is wishful thinking.
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HTC Incredible official GB update PDF updated!!!

http://support.vzw.com/system_update/htc_incredible.html

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http://support.vzw.com/system_update/htc_incredible.html
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new radio! thanks for sharing this.

I knew that all the people who were saying that it was offical that we were not getting the update were wrong. HTC never sent out any official notification sayignt that they were not updating the phone it was just some tech support guy's email who was obvioulsy clueless.

Finally. Oh boy here we go.

bring on the source code

wildstang83 said:
Finally. Oh boy here we go.
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how long before we get a rom made off this build?

Awesome. Here come the custom kernels.

well according to this its already been released......but we need someone on a stock unrooted inc to take the update....

synisterwolf said:
how long before we get a rom made off this build?
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Minutes after launch? My replacement phone gets here today unrooted so I might see if I can capture. If its not gb already.

Even if no source yet, we should get a newer radio, and a more optimized kernel!
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wildstang83 said:
Minutes after launch? My replacement phone gets here today unrooted so I might see if I can capture. If its not gb already.
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Awesome, man. I may go back to stock to see if I can grab it.

Zalatorisaurus said:
Awesome, man. I may go back to stock to see if I can grab it.
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Good. The bigger the net the better.

Zalatorisaurus said:
Awesome, man. I may go back to stock to see if I can grab it.
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Is there a thread on here that details how to go back to stock? I'll do it too if someone can direct me.
nvm, found it. Search is a good thing

I think I'm going to hold off until the developers get a chance with it. I'd hate to update to it and loss root temporarily.

gio2005 said:
I think I'm going to hold off until the developers get a chance with it. I'd hate to update to it and loss root temporarily.
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I agree with gio. Don't forget that you could possibly lose root!

Technically even a rooted stock sense phone should receive the update as the updater isn't turned off/removed. At least thats the way the Eris worked. Unless unrevoked somehow turns off the updater when it roots the phone which I'm not aware of.

kzoodroid said:
Technically even a rooted stock sense phone should receive the update as the updater isn't turned off/removed. At least thats the way the Eris worked. Unless unrevoked somehow turns off the updater when it roots the phone which I'm not aware of.
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Alot of the Dinc ROM developers did turn off the updater back when the Froyo OTA was announced due to annoying, constant pop-ups. At least I know that rmk40 did with Virtuous.

This just added over at Android Central:
"Just got word about how the over-the-air rollout's going to take place. The push is scheduled to start Tuesday, Aug. 16, with an initial 10,000 updates. Another 50,000 will get it on Wednesday, and everybody else on Friday."
http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-d...-update-support-docs-now-live-verizon-website

blakec432 said:
Alot of the Dinc ROM developers did turn off the updater back when the Froyo OTA was announced due to annoying, constant pop-ups. At least I know that rmk40 did with Virtuous.
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If you made a backup of your phone right after you rooted and before you installed a custom ROM like I did then what I'm saying is if you restore this first backup then you should get the update.

theotherrogue said:
This just added over at Android Central:
"Just got word about how the over-the-air rollout's going to take place. The push is scheduled to start Tuesday, Aug. 16, with an initial 10,000 updates. Another 50,000 will get it on Wednesday, and everybody else on Friday."
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Sweet! So we might see some pretty cool things come tomorrow eh?

Icecream sandwich is out

I am downloading the update right now. Even though the server is a lil slow I can't to see what this 4.0 has to offer. Woah keep up the good work acer.

R U joking? Why I didn't get it? Can you share the detail?

emerson julien said:
I am downloading the update right now. Even though the server is a lil slow I can't to see what this 4.0 has to offer. Woah keep up the good work acer.
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Ugh, not again. Some id10t thinks they're getting ICS because their update is a 4.0 update, and yet again someone falls for it.

kjy2010 said:
Ugh, not again. Some id10t thinks they're getting ICS because their update is a 4.0 update, and yet again someone falls for it.
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Yes, I remembered it is 3.1.4.0.XXXX.

jackie099 said:
Yes, I remembered it is 3.1.4.0.XXXX.
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Actually it's:
HoneyComb 3.2 : Acer_A500_4.010.38_7.006.01_COM_GEN1 : http://vache-android.com/v1/download.php?fileID=91 Acer_A500_4.010.40_7.006.03_COM_GEN1 : http://vache-android.com/v1/download.php?fileID=92 (you have te decrypt the file) Acer_A500_4.010.41_7.006.01_COM_GEN1 : http://www.megaupload.com/?d=LH2Y80E6 Acer_A500_4.010.42_7.006.01_COM_GEN1 : http://cdn.acer.futuredial.com/Acer_...3_b52eab29.zip
All the 3.2 updates start with 4.0

Well the confusion is understandable.

hardslog said:
Well the confusion is understandable.
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Certainly understandable for someone to proclaim ICS for the A500 already when no other devices have even launched with it as of yet! lol

I just purchased my a500 and l laughed when I seen the update number... Just before I hit cancel.
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kjy2010 said:
Certainly understandable for someone to proclaim ICS for the A500 already when no other devices have even launched with it as of yet! lol
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Yea I know but not everyone follows the tech media like others do. Some people might thing that the Google announcement of the Galaxy Nexus meant it was released already.
Just saying that we shouldn't be so mean to people who don't know otherwise.