It has been brought to my attention that most Rom devs tell you to wipe before flashing a new rom. Notion Ink suggests that you wipe after flashing their roms.
I would suggest wiping before and after...
Especially if you are having issues and you have flashed a custom rom and have reverted to stock rom by your own choice or by suggestion of Notion Ink.
I am not exactly sure why, but it seems as if wipe doesn't or isn't actually wiping and it causes anomalies within the stock and custom roms afterwards..
Just a suggestion, hope it helps, surely doesn't hurt..
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My problem is simple, When flash a new rom, should I wipe before flashing or after flashing? why?
Thanks,my geek buddies.
before, why? Just do it!
(It doesn't make any sense to isntall something then wipe, does it? lol)
KAwAtA said:
before, why? Just do it!
(It doesn't make any sense to isntall something then wipe, does it? lol)
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haha,thanks,buddy
My thought is as same as yours.
Some posts said that you should wipe after flash rom, I just don't know why.
It makes me confused
for upgrades from ROMs (like Cyanogen 4.2.13 to 4.2.14.1) no wipe is needed. But for ROMs like Super D and Dwang they didn't say anything about wiping for upgrades.
If it is like totally different ROMs (like a hero ROM or switching between different ROMs) a wipe is needed to make sure the install is smooth. A wipe includes wiping data and ext partition.
Hi, I was just wondering if I need to go through the whole process when updating a rom in Clockwork? I am running Paranoid and I have received many updates and its getting frustrating having to set up my phone like it was brand new after each update. I just installed PA Updater but at the end of the download it brings me to Clockwork anyway. For an update to a rom I usually wipe data/ factory reset / wipe cache partition / perform a backup and wipe dalvik cache. Are these steps only necessary when installing a new rom? I am new to this and love the benefits that unlocked bootloaders / custom roms and root give me but I am sick and tired of setting up my phone once a week. I imagine flashing a new rom means I am guaranteed to go through the set up process as if it were a brand new phone ??? Is there an easier way to do this???
Thanks
Yeah sure ask the dev to build a rom already set up according to your settings
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djp1313 said:
Hi, I was just wondering if I need to go through the whole process when updating a rom in Clockwork? I am running Paranoid and I have received many updates and its getting frustrating having to set up my phone like it was brand new after each update. I just installed PA Updater but at the end of the download it brings me to Clockwork anyway. For an update to a rom I usually wipe data/ factory reset / wipe cache partition / perform a backup and wipe dalvik cache. Are these steps only necessary when installing a new rom? I am new to this and love the benefits that unlocked bootloaders / custom roms and root give me but I am sick and tired of setting up my phone once a week. I imagine flashing a new rom means I am guaranteed to go through the set up process as if it were a brand new phone ??? Is there an easier way to do this???
Thanks
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no need to wipe anything when updating a rom, just flash it over what you already have(dirty flash). if the rom needs gapps, flash them as well. you wont lose any data. you do need to wipe data when flashing to a different rom.
I don't get where people get the idea of wiping literally everything when flashing an update. Just flash over the old one, wipe cache/dalvik and you're good to go.
Nigeldg said:
I don't get where people get the idea of wiping literally everything when flashing an update. Just flash over the old one, wipe cache/dalvik and you're good to go.
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Wiping data when flashing a new rom is a bit like reinstalling Windows. It helps to eliminate potential problems. However, because of the amount of time and effort it takes, wiping your phone every single time you update is plain stupidity, especially if you are on cyanogenmod nightly updates. Unfortunately, some people (including developers) have decided to encourage people to wipe with every single update in order to deal with less bug reports due to, admittedly, user errors.
Panorama skips when trying to scroll across. It starts capturing then freezes before it starts capturing again so the picture loses a big section in the panorama. I am currently using Goldeneye rom with KT kernel (most recent versions). Anyone can help?
Read that roms thread to find out if that's a known bug. If not, you're going to be told to reflash. You could start simple by wiping cache and dalvik then reflashing the rom and kernel. If that doesn't correct the issue and you can't live without panorama, you'll likely have to do a full wipe and reflash
xBeerdroiDx said:
Read that roms thread to find out if that's a known bug. If not, you're going to be told to reflash. You could start simple by wiping cache and dalvik then reflashing the rom and kernel. If that doesn't correct the issue and you can't live without panorama, you'll likely have to do a full wipe and reflash
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I did a search in the GOLDENEYE thread but was unable to find any similar issues. Unfortunately, I cannot post in that thread since I do not have enough posts yet. So far I have tried flashing back to stock kernel, wiping system/data/cache/dalvik then flashing the rom with stock kernel, then wiping again and flashing it with KT kernel. None of these have worked so far. But at least I think that it isn't the kernel that is causing the issue with the camera. Sent a PM to the dev, so hopefully he can provide some insight.
Hi, this is a noob question but i was wondering if i wanted to install a new version of purity rom over my existing purity rom, would i have to factory wipe or just davik/cache wipe it? If i just davik/cache wipe would the rom not run as smoothly?
Always do clean flash to avoid issues later on. But technically there is nothing against flashing over a current rom. I just dont recommand it
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Hi, this is a noob question but i was wondering if i wanted to install a new version of purity rom over my existing purity rom, would i have to factory wipe or just davik/cache wipe it? If i just davik/cache wipe would the rom not run as smoothly?
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just flash it right over, without wiping anything. dont forget gapps if needed. when you flash a rom, it automatically wipes the dalvik and cache, so you dont have to do it, or its just a repeated process. updates you never ever have to wipe. when flashing a new/different rom, thats when you have to wipe data/factory reset beforehand.
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CCody said:
Always do clean flash to avoid issues later on. But technically there is nothing against flashing over a current rom. I just dont recommand it
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you have as much of a chance seeing issues after a clean flash as you see during a dirty flash. ive dirty flashed every single item on my n5 since the n5 came out, and on my n4 as well. not a single issue. the only time ive wiped my n4 in a year and a half was for the L preview.
@simms22: that is what my experience was. I always did a clean flash and no 'halp, xy app fc' or 'phone stuck on boot' once like most of the problems here om xda. So yeah @nightryder1, if you want to be a bad ass doing a dirty flash, do so. There is no right or wrong in this case. Just consider, that a 'noob' should aways learn and experience everything properly first before doing some dirty things
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@simms22: that is what my experience was. I always did a clean flash and no 'halp, xy app fc' or 'phone stuck on boot' once like most of the problems here om xda. So yeah @nightryder1, if you want to be a bad ass doing a dirty flash, do so. There is no right or wrong in this case. Just consider, that a 'noob' should aways learn and experience everything properly first before doing some dirty things
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well, he is majorly right in one place.. being new, you should, no, have to learn how to do things the right way first. once you learn the proper procedure, and how to fix the little things that could go wrong, then you can worry less about the safety.
but anyways, there is no reason to wipe dalvik nor cache when flashing a rom, as it automatically gets wiped when you flash. the only reason that you would wipe dalvik and cache manually is when doing it without flashing anything, just for a little clean up
I flashed my Moto G4 Play with Lineage OS. Everything was working fine until I unlocked my phone and a linked opened automatically in Chrome. This happens everytime I unlock my phone. I also get other kind of ads. When I press the activity button to see which app is responsible, the ad disappears.
What should I do to fix this?
I was thinking about flashing crDroid but noticed "DO A DATA WIPE " in the instructions. What does this mean? How can one do this? And what are dirty and clean flashes?
Not sure exactly about what is causing your ads, but clean flashing either another rom or the same one should fix it. To answer your question, this is what you wipe in recovery mode before flashing a rom for the first time (usually in TWRP):
data, cache, dalvik, system
This is what is called a clean flash, because you also wipe the data partition (which is where all your apps and their respective data is stored); if you were to do a dirty flash, common for updating roms, this is what you would wipe before flashing:
cache, dalvik, system (I wipe system because old habits die hard, I believe most - if not all - roms do this from the zip already).
So, dirty flashing (the same or a newer/older build of the rom you're in, otherwise you're just asking for trouble) would most likely not fix your issue as it is probably caused by an app you need to get rid of. Either clean flash the same rom, or go for another one. crDroid is nice, I'm using it with the heliox kernel. It has adaway built in so even if your ads issue does come back you might still be able to get rid of it natively.
Hope I helped!
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I flashed my Moto G4 Play with Lineage OS. Everything was working fine until I unlocked my phone and a linked opened automatically in Chrome. This happens everytime I unlock my phone. I also get other kind of ads. When I press the activity button to see which app is responsible, the ad disappears.
What should I do to fix this?
I was thinking about flashing crDroid but noticed "DO A DATA WIPE " in the instructions. What does this mean? How can one do this? And what are dirty and clean flashes?
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Usually the cause of this kind of ads is some app you installed, and not the rom itself.
I would uninstall apps to find out the culprit.
rafaelrgi said:
Usually the cause of this kind of ads is some app you installed, and not the rom itself.
I would uninstall apps to find out the culprit.
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Turned out to be Adblock Plus. The irony.
I have some torrents downloading on the internal storage. As soon as they are downloaded I will do a clean flash as the problem has resurfaced. Except android device manager, apps like greenify have their administrator access revoked. However, the ads still come.
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Not sure exactly about what is causing your ads, but clean flashing either another rom or the same one should fix it. To answer your question, this is what you wipe in recovery mode before flashing a rom for the first time (usually in TWRP):
data, cache, dalvik, system
This is what is called a clean flash, because you also wipe the data partition (which is where all your apps and their respective data is stored); if you were to do a dirty flash, common for updating roms, this is what you would wipe before flashing:
cache, dalvik, system (I wipe system because old habits die hard, I believe most - if not all - roms do this from the zip already).
So, dirty flashing (the same or a newer/older build of the rom you're in, otherwise you're just asking for trouble) would most likely not fix your issue as it is probably caused by an app you need to get rid of. Either clean flash the same rom, or go for another one. crDroid is nice, I'm using it with the heliox kernel. It has adaway built in so even if your ads issue does come back you might still be able to get rid of it natively.
Hope I helped!
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How do I flash a kernel? Is it safe for a noob like me? Does the kernel have adaway or the ROM? Because if the ROM has adaway I would prefer not to mess with the kernel.
Thanks a lot for explaining what a clean and dirty flash is and how they are different!
fretboard_squatter said:
How do I flash a kernel? Is it safe for a noob like me? Does the kernel have adaway or the ROM? Because if the ROM has adaway I would prefer not to mess with the kernel.
Thanks a lot for explaining what a clean and dirty flash is and how they are different!
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Kernel flashing is similar to rom flashing; I think the best way to flash a kernel is to flash it right after clean installing the rom (this is, do all the wipes, flash the rom, the gapps, whatever addon, and the kernel); though I wouldn't call it safe (since none of this potentially is, if you don't pay attention), I wouldn't advise against it. It's part of the whole experience, and kernels can really improve your phone. In this case, adaway's included in the rom, not the kernel. So you should be fine without Heliox. But you should try it someday! Just remember to keep a backup of your data in case anything goes sideways. Good luck!
I took no backup of the kernel (my bad), flashed it after wiping the data and then I installed wiped everything and then I flashed the kernel again, the ROM (crDroid) and gapps. Working like a charm. Thanks!