My problem is simple, When flash a new rom, should I wipe before flashing or after flashing? why?
Thanks,my geek buddies.
before, why? Just do it!
(It doesn't make any sense to isntall something then wipe, does it? lol)
KAwAtA said:
before, why? Just do it!
(It doesn't make any sense to isntall something then wipe, does it? lol)
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haha,thanks,buddy
My thought is as same as yours.
Some posts said that you should wipe after flash rom, I just don't know why.
It makes me confused
for upgrades from ROMs (like Cyanogen 4.2.13 to 4.2.14.1) no wipe is needed. But for ROMs like Super D and Dwang they didn't say anything about wiping for upgrades.
If it is like totally different ROMs (like a hero ROM or switching between different ROMs) a wipe is needed to make sure the install is smooth. A wipe includes wiping data and ext partition.
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I have been moving my Hero from Sense -> Vanilla.
But, after wiping, flashing, rebooting, there are some apps, like ASTRO, MyBackup, aNetShare, and Springpad, for example, that are already there after first boot.
And before anybody says that Android is backing them up, I'm not connected to any account!
How can this be?
It may already be installed in the ROM you flashed
I've found the same thing whilst benchmarking. I'll wipe everything flash a new rom to benchmark and the benchmark apps will install themselves on first boot. Something I'm as yet unable to explain. Having said that i've experienced no issues with this the two times it has happened (out of at least 10 different rom wipes) and all the apps have worked as they should.
sebxd said:
It may already be installed in the ROM you flashed
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Is CMH 1.4.1 ROM. I do not think CMH has Springpad, and much less MyBackup Pro, does it?
btdag said:
I've found the same thing whilst benchmarking. I'll wipe everything flash a new rom to benchmark and the benchmark apps will install themselves on first boot. Something I'm as yet unable to explain. Having said that i've experienced no issues with this the two times it has happened (out of at least 10 different rom wipes) and all the apps have worked as they should.
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Same here apps work fine. But that is not the point I'm getting crazy understanding where they are.
Did you wipe EXT as well?
wywywywy said:
Did you wipe EXT as well?
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By EXT you mean Linux partition? Cause if that, i have no linux partitions on the card ... or not that i remember ... would have to check back if that is the case.
kwanbis said:
By EXT you mean Linux partition? Cause if that, i have no linux partitions on the card ... or not that i remember ... would have to check back if that is the case.
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Should say "Wipe SD:Ext" in recovery. That's where all apps are installed if you use Apps2sd...
Full wipe usually means Data, Dalvik, Sd:Ext.
ante0 said:
Should say "Wipe SD:Ext" in recovery. That's where all apps are installed if you use Apps2sd...
Full wipe usually means Data, Dalvik, Sd:Ext.
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I did a factory reset, dalvilk reset, but i did not do a SD:Ext, as i do not remember having a partition.
But now that you mention it, it could very well be the case.
I would check as soon as i get the phone home.
Thanks.
if this is the wrong place for this SORRY IN ADVANCE
ok so after rooting my shift i followed all the steps got the recovery on there and downloaded a ROM and wiped everything and when the rom flashed it said error 7 instalation aborted so i hit reboot system now just to see what would happen because i did wipe everything so i was expecting to be stuck at the boot img..no problem was just playing around but the thing actually booted in a rom that looks 100% stock....what happened
even tho the ROM looks 100% stock it is def not i have adfree and esfile explorer added to app drawer now if its gonna flash the rom anyways why does cw 2.5.1 tell me its a no go with a stauts 7 i have even formatted my card to wipe it 100% and the same thing happens>?
when you "wipe" you're not wiping the rom. The data, cache etc yes. Only a rom install overwrites a prior rom. unless you format the phone.
RyteSyde said:
when you "wipe" you're not wiping the rom. The data, cache etc yes. Only a rom install overwrites a prior rom. unless you format the phone.
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yeah it must have just been an issue with the rom i was flashing because i flashed another one no problem thanks for that bit of info though
I had no problem flash nfinites stock rom...must have been something you did...not so much the rom...
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JKILO said:
I had no problem flash nfinites stock rom...must have been something you did...not so much the rom...
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People that flashed the base steel posted had similiar issues. E.G. if you were on cm6 and wiped, then flashed the base, you'd boot into a fresh cm6. The partitions were setup wrong, I believe.
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smoothtaste said:
People that flashed the base steel posted had similiar issues. E.G. if you were on cm6 and wiped, then flashed the base, you'd boot into a fresh cm6. The partitions were setup wrong, I believe.
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Ok my fault...never took notice..thanks
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I just rooted for the first time yesterday so I'm fairly new to all this... is it common practice to wipe cahce/dalvik prior to flashing any ROM?
I've gone back and forth from the stock ROM to another custom Sense ROM without wiping and no issues. Is it only advised if something goes wrong? Also, is there an issue with just going into recovery and wiping cache when NOT flashing a new ROM (just rebooting to the same one I'm using)? Thanks for the help.
HolyShift said:
I just rooted for the first time yesterday so I'm fairly new to all this... is it common practice to wipe cahce/dalvik prior to flashing any ROM?
I've gone back and forth from the stock ROM to another custom Sense ROM without wiping and no issues. Is it only advised if something goes wrong? Also, is there an issue with just going into recovery and wiping cache when NOT flashing a new ROM (just rebooting to the same one I'm using)? Thanks for the help.
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Its good practice to always wipe. You may get by without it a few flashes. But eventually you'll be haunted by force closes, boot loops, etc.
Personally when I flash a new rom after the data, cache and dalvik wipes I format my boot, system, data and cache partitions manually via the mounts menu.
From experience, to truly see changes in rom updates or properly enjoy an entirely different one, this eliminates most problems before they ever manifest.
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Wondering something here...when i wiped my device, i went thru rom manager and did the wipe device thing to wipe all user data to clear out CM7.0.
after that i installed virtuous to try it out, and i noticed in root explorer in the system>app folder, there were CM apk's in there. does virtuous use CM stuff in their roms?
if not, why would they show up even after a full wipe?
Also, has anyone here ever had issues changing from a non sense rom to a sense and back to non sense in a matter of 2 hours?
well, if they are any of the CM specific apps like:
CMparts or CMstats or CMwallpapers (I think there are a few more, can't remember off the top of my head), then it sounds like a case of a "format" that didn't actually format. you wouldn't be the first person to deal with this problem with rom mgr and CWM recovery.. it is known to be finnicky when it comes to formatting partitions (among other things ).
thankfully, we have a tool now that will give you a true, clean format of /system /data and /cache partitions without having to manually run the commands every time (like I know some of us have been doing).
if you are the kind of guy, like myself, who likes to perform a clean wipe between roms, I'd highly recommend downloading that and using it instead of the rom manager/CWM recovery options.
tackleberry said:
Also, has anyone here ever had issues changing from a non sense rom to a sense and back to non sense in a matter of 2 hours?
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Can't answer your first question, but on my old Hero, I swapped from an AOSP ROM to a Sense ROM once almost every hour for a day because I couldn't make up my mind. Nothing bad happened to it and my father is using it now with no ill effects.
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well, if they are any of the CM specific apps like:
CMparts or CMstats or CMwallpapers (I think there are a few more, can't remember off the top of my head), then it sounds like a case of a "format" that didn't actually format. you wouldn't be the first person to deal with this problem with rom mgr and CWM recovery.. it is known to be finnicky when it comes to formatting partitions (among other things ).
thankfully, we have a tool now that will give you a true, clean format of /system /data and /cache partitions without having to manually run the commands every time (like I know some of us have been doing).
if you are the kind of guy, like myself, who likes to perform a clean wipe between roms, I'd highly recommend downloading that and using it instead of the rom manager/CWM recovery options.
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yes i saw that program pop up when i was tying in the topic for this post! sounds like a great program wish it was posted a couple of days earlier lol. ill try when i get my device back.
wondering tho if these half ass wipes that CWM does caused my problems. i usually wipe when changing a type of rom, even with CM7 (nightly to RC for example). if i flash a nightly, i usually do a wipe every 2 nightlies.
Not sure what you mean by half ass wipes,lol, but I've never trusted the system wipe to do the job. I always do cache and dalvik along with it.
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enserio said:
Not sure what you mean by half ass wipes,lol, but I've never trusted the system wipe to do the job. I always do cache and dalvik along with it.
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i do too. half ass saying there is stuff not wiped lol
tackleberry said:
i do too. half ass saying there is stuff not wiped lol
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Yeah... as amazing as CWM recovery is, the wipe process can be a bit.... lacking sometimes. If you don't use amazinglarry's superg2wipe script, then I would at least manually wipe through recovery before switching roms - this way you can be at least get most of the artifacts and "ghosts" left over from your last rom.
Sorry for bumping this old thread, I came across it while googling.
I've always used "wipe data/factory reset" in CWM. But that only wipes your /data and /cache partition.
Now, i only recently found out "wipe /system" under "mounts" in CWM. Meaning, I had never wiped my /system partition before, while swapping between 50 roms (be it AOSP or Sense). And I never had any problems. But the best way to fully wipe your system, is to do every partition manually + dalvik and battery stats.
Hi, I was just wondering if I need to go through the whole process when updating a rom in Clockwork? I am running Paranoid and I have received many updates and its getting frustrating having to set up my phone like it was brand new after each update. I just installed PA Updater but at the end of the download it brings me to Clockwork anyway. For an update to a rom I usually wipe data/ factory reset / wipe cache partition / perform a backup and wipe dalvik cache. Are these steps only necessary when installing a new rom? I am new to this and love the benefits that unlocked bootloaders / custom roms and root give me but I am sick and tired of setting up my phone once a week. I imagine flashing a new rom means I am guaranteed to go through the set up process as if it were a brand new phone ??? Is there an easier way to do this???
Thanks
Yeah sure ask the dev to build a rom already set up according to your settings
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djp1313 said:
Hi, I was just wondering if I need to go through the whole process when updating a rom in Clockwork? I am running Paranoid and I have received many updates and its getting frustrating having to set up my phone like it was brand new after each update. I just installed PA Updater but at the end of the download it brings me to Clockwork anyway. For an update to a rom I usually wipe data/ factory reset / wipe cache partition / perform a backup and wipe dalvik cache. Are these steps only necessary when installing a new rom? I am new to this and love the benefits that unlocked bootloaders / custom roms and root give me but I am sick and tired of setting up my phone once a week. I imagine flashing a new rom means I am guaranteed to go through the set up process as if it were a brand new phone ??? Is there an easier way to do this???
Thanks
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no need to wipe anything when updating a rom, just flash it over what you already have(dirty flash). if the rom needs gapps, flash them as well. you wont lose any data. you do need to wipe data when flashing to a different rom.
I don't get where people get the idea of wiping literally everything when flashing an update. Just flash over the old one, wipe cache/dalvik and you're good to go.
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I don't get where people get the idea of wiping literally everything when flashing an update. Just flash over the old one, wipe cache/dalvik and you're good to go.
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Wiping data when flashing a new rom is a bit like reinstalling Windows. It helps to eliminate potential problems. However, because of the amount of time and effort it takes, wiping your phone every single time you update is plain stupidity, especially if you are on cyanogenmod nightly updates. Unfortunately, some people (including developers) have decided to encourage people to wipe with every single update in order to deal with less bug reports due to, admittedly, user errors.
Hi, this is a noob question but i was wondering if i wanted to install a new version of purity rom over my existing purity rom, would i have to factory wipe or just davik/cache wipe it? If i just davik/cache wipe would the rom not run as smoothly?
Always do clean flash to avoid issues later on. But technically there is nothing against flashing over a current rom. I just dont recommand it
nightryder1 said:
Hi, this is a noob question but i was wondering if i wanted to install a new version of purity rom over my existing purity rom, would i have to factory wipe or just davik/cache wipe it? If i just davik/cache wipe would the rom not run as smoothly?
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just flash it right over, without wiping anything. dont forget gapps if needed. when you flash a rom, it automatically wipes the dalvik and cache, so you dont have to do it, or its just a repeated process. updates you never ever have to wipe. when flashing a new/different rom, thats when you have to wipe data/factory reset beforehand.
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CCody said:
Always do clean flash to avoid issues later on. But technically there is nothing against flashing over a current rom. I just dont recommand it
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you have as much of a chance seeing issues after a clean flash as you see during a dirty flash. ive dirty flashed every single item on my n5 since the n5 came out, and on my n4 as well. not a single issue. the only time ive wiped my n4 in a year and a half was for the L preview.
@simms22: that is what my experience was. I always did a clean flash and no 'halp, xy app fc' or 'phone stuck on boot' once like most of the problems here om xda. So yeah @nightryder1, if you want to be a bad ass doing a dirty flash, do so. There is no right or wrong in this case. Just consider, that a 'noob' should aways learn and experience everything properly first before doing some dirty things
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@simms22: that is what my experience was. I always did a clean flash and no 'halp, xy app fc' or 'phone stuck on boot' once like most of the problems here om xda. So yeah @nightryder1, if you want to be a bad ass doing a dirty flash, do so. There is no right or wrong in this case. Just consider, that a 'noob' should aways learn and experience everything properly first before doing some dirty things
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well, he is majorly right in one place.. being new, you should, no, have to learn how to do things the right way first. once you learn the proper procedure, and how to fix the little things that could go wrong, then you can worry less about the safety.
but anyways, there is no reason to wipe dalvik nor cache when flashing a rom, as it automatically gets wiped when you flash. the only reason that you would wipe dalvik and cache manually is when doing it without flashing anything, just for a little clean up