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locked bootloader ftl.
so true Jez..LOL
If it is locked but runs well out of the box, I could stand to wait until its cracked (if ever). My vibrant on the other hand, would've been immediately returned if not for the devs.
Think of it in terms of cars. If Chevy locked the engine and computer on a corvette so neither could be modified, but it still ran great, would that make it junk or deter a person from buying it? Modders would hate it, everyone else would love it. I just want a phone to run well.
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wouldnt u also want a phone to run better?
Of course I'd want it to run better, but haven't you ever heard the saying "if it ain't broke, don't fix it"? If it runs like a bat outta hell and doesn't have any major issues, I wont have a problem with a locked down bootloader.
Now if it runs like 2.1 vibrant and HTC didn't give the developers the ability to fix the issues, I'd return it and curse the HTC name.
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allthrottle said:
Of course I'd want it to run better, but haven't you ever heard the saying "if it ain't broke, don't fix it"? If it runs like a bat outta hell and doesn't have any major issues, I wont have a problem with a locked down bootloader.
Now if it runs like 2.1 vibrant and HTC didn't give the developers the ability to fix the issues, I'd return it and curse the HTC name.
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I think some people might agree with you but not us on xda. We came here to mod and tweak our phones. So... a locked bootloader is gg for us. I'm pretty sure the bootloader would be crackable but it'll just take more time and is a PITA.
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what if moto is waiting for unlocked bootloader to give out hsupa update? Think about to what if they made the bootloader locked so people could unlock the bootloader and they could use a new encryption with the update to relock it. This would be smart because if we unlock the bootloader and they make an update we wouldnt update it would be no point because we could get what ever we want with the phone through roms. but if the bootloader is broken and then they come out with HSPUA after then we would still need to update just because. Maybe devs know thhat and thats why they want to keep bootloader info under wraps and they assassinate anyone who leaks bootloader info because its a chess game between them and moto.... just a fun Easter conspiracy theory
Well.... i've been assuming for quite some time now that maybe it's actually AT&T that has their hands in Motorola keeping the bootloader locked due to AT&T supposedly wanting to test their HSUPA network to make sure it will be able to handle the massive influx of smartphones before they enable it on the newer phones. That would kinda make sense since if the bootloader were unlocked, people could just find a way around it and use HSUPA anyway. Whether or not that's the case is anyone's guess.
Very good theory you got there... :d
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Well.... i've been assuming for quite some time now that maybe it's actually AT&T that has their hands in Motorola keeping the bootloader locked due to AT&T supposedly wanting to test their HSUPA network to make sure it will be able to handle the massive influx of smartphones before they enable it on the newer phones. That would kinda make sense since if the bootloader were unlocked, people could just find a way around it and use HSUPA anyway. Whether or not that's the case is anyone's guess.
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the inspire gotta unlocked bootloader and no HSUPA right?
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the inspire gotta unlocked bootloader and no HSUPA right?
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Ya they do, just have to flash the Telus radio.
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We are a minority among the majority of atrix users. Many users are just people who buy it for use as a phone and not to mod it.
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Garrenteed they aren't, once we crack this bootloader we can enable faster upload speeds ourselves.
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Im att telus doesn't work on att right
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We are a minority among the majority of atrix users. Many users are just people who buy it for use as a phone and not to mod it.
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True. But last I heard the phone isn't selling well D: .. No?
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i don't think the unlock BL can be fixed by moto.. as it's more like a hardware basis job which moto's android software update can not do anything to the bootloader.
for sure there will be more problems come out after the BL is unlocked,like: moto block the way of unlock in future updates; how to find the drivers for future android that moto will not provide.
but first of all,, bootloader need to be unlock and we can worry about all other things later.
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True. But last I heard the phone isn't selling well D: .. No?
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this is because the atrix has been released only in 2 or 3 countries.
this thread makes me chuckle. wait for us to crack it and then patch it? Ha. I mean sure that works for root, but the bootloader? The DroidX has been on sale since July of last year, and that hasn't been cracked, what makes you think we'll have more luck with this phone?
plus it was AT&T taht promised the HSUPA update. If motoroloa was holding it off for their own personal reasons that would have to piss off AT&T since it means more bad press for them.
If the bootloader was cracked and hsupa was out dont u think the devs would be able to package everything together. And what idiot would update their unlocked phone knowing that the bootloader was going to be relocked. I agree with cegna....the dx has been out for sometime and the bootloader has not been cracked. There are prob more dx devs than atrix devs working on it also. If moto hadnt done a good job putting this phone together it def would have gone back already
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having a locked bootloader gives me anxiety :|
So what the OP is saying is that we are never going to get an hsupa update. See what I did there?
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If the bootloader was cracked and hsupa was out dont u think the devs would be able to package everything together. And what idiot would update their unlocked phone knowing that the bootloader was going to be relocked. I agree with cegna....the dx has been out for sometime and the bootloader has not been cracked. There are prob more dx devs than atrix devs working on it also. If moto hadnt done a good job putting this phone together it def would have gone back already
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Uuuuuum the atrix has the best damn few devs in the world!!!!! That's why. Does the Droid x have other stuff we have like pseudo Rome?
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So what the OP is saying is that we are never going to get an hsupa update. See what I did there?
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Yep I see what u did. Slander.
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Uuuuuum the atrix has the best damn few devs in the world!!!!! That's why. Does the Droid x have other stuff we have like pseudo Rome?
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Yeah they have deblurred ones and a real gingerblur with android 2.3.
Do your research first.
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this thread makes me chuckle. wait for us to crack it and then patch it? Ha. I mean sure that works for root, but the bootloader? The DroidX has been on sale since July of last year, and that hasn't been cracked, what makes you think we'll have more luck with this phone?
plus it was AT&T taht promised the HSUPA update. If motoroloa was holding it off for their own personal reasons that would have to piss off AT&T since it means more bad press for them.
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Droid x bootloader has been cracked
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Yeah they have deblurred ones and a real gingerblur with android 2.3.
Do your research first.
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What do u mean do my research first.... I asked a question and the only reason they've have 2.3 is cause it was leaked.... if we had a 2.3 leak We would have one too
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I really appreaciate everyone here in the EVO4g thread. Today my EVO lost its charging port, pretty much feel off the motherboard, and will not charge or connect to the computer anymore. I will be going to the Galaxy Nexus come Sunday hopefully. I did the buy up program and will begetting an early upgrade with LTE baby. Will miss DECK, Ropodope, TommyT, MYN and Mik.
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I really appreaciate everyone here in the EVO4g thread. Today my EVO lost its charging port, pretty much feel off the motherboard, and will not charge or connect to the computer anymore. I will be going to the Galaxy Nexus come Sunday hopefully. I did the buy up program and will begetting an early upgrade with LTE baby. Will miss DECK, Ropodope, TommyT, MYN and Mik.
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Good Luck and Enjoy.
marcusva79 said:
I really appreaciate everyone here in the EVO4g thread. Today my EVO lost its charging port, pretty much feel off the motherboard, and will not charge or connect to the computer anymore. I will be going to the Galaxy Nexus come Sunday hopefully. I did the buy up program and will begetting an early upgrade with LTE baby. Will miss DECK, Ropodope, TommyT, MYN and Mik.
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Sorry to see you Marcus, you've been a great asset to the evo community. Too bad you couldn't hold out till June for the LtEVO.
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I'm in the same boat, but my charging port fell out last year With sprints TEP now being $11, (starting in June) I'm wondering which phone will be more durable, the Galaxy Nexus or Evo 4g LTE?
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I have been thinking on the EVO lte but I am not really fond of Sense anymore.
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I have been thinking on the EVO lte but I am not really fond of Sense anymore.
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Same here man. I don't remember the last time I used an EVO Sense ROM. I will probably be joining you.
Hope I will see some familiar faces soon.
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Hope I will see some familiar faces soon.
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I'm gona be on that galaxy S III train, for sure.
Offically have the Galaxy Nexus. Love it!
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Offically have the Galaxy Nexus. Love it!
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What persuaded you to go that route vs. the EVO LTE? I mean, Sense is way toned down with the new 4.0, and seems to not do much but enhance the experience. Just want to point out that I haven't ran a Sense ROM in about 6 months either, but the new version seems nice, and the hardware on the LTE is absolutely sick!
Anyway, I'm asking because I'm in the Nexus vs. EVO LTE vs. GSIII boat right now...
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I have been thinking on the EVO lte but I am not really fond of Sense anymore.
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+1
I really like the HTC hardware, but haven't used sense in forever. Conundrum. Hopefully the Evo will get AOSP/CM/AOKP right quick.
Congrats on your new phone. I'll miss your posts of battery use screenshots lol
Enjoy your nexus. Thanks for what you've done here.
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My brother has the nexus and I really liked it. I hardly used any sense widgets and any sense apps. Just mainly downloaded them from the market. Sense 4.O could be good. I'm fine with what I got
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LTeVO
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To weigh in here, we are on XDA right? A development site. And considering htc has unlockable bootloaders there is plenty to be done for making any device what you want. Sooooo why not just go for specs?
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To weigh in here, we are on XDA right? A development site. And considering htc has unlockable bootloaders there is plenty to be done for making any device what you want. Sooooo why not just go for specs?
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exactly
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imheroldman said:
To weigh in here, we are on XDA right? A development site. And considering htc has unlockable bootloaders there is plenty to be done for making any device what you want. Sooooo why not just go for specs?
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Go check the other evolte threads where scottspa quoted toastch from the twrp thread in the onex forum. HTC has forked up the unlock so badly you cannot flash firmware once unlocked, USB connection is unavailable in recovery mode so you can't flash the boot partition, system partition meaning without and exploit to gain s-off access to the bootloader the htcdev unlock is essentially useless for flashing roms/radios, any kind of p*img.zip, onlyway to flash any kind of upgrades currently is thru an ruu. HTC locking their bootloaders and giving a halfassed unlock method as some kind of joke/tease is why I currently will not purchase another HTC device. I'm not giving my money to a company who claims to support developers by giving them a halfcocked useless tool to unlock what shouldn't be locked in the firstplace. Samsung doesn't lock the bootloader they just implemented a flash count that triggers anytime you flash an unsecured kernel, its easily reset using a USB jig or if you're on ics an app called triangle away by chainfire. Rooting is as simple as running a prerooted firmware thru Odin/heimdall and Samsung is now releasing source prior to the ota and are dropping updates as quickly as they are stable. After I had a Samsung intercept as my first android device Samsung left a bad taste in my mouth and I went to the HTC evo, as if had several HTC winmo phones and liked them. Then I was given an ET4G sprints version of the sgs2 and realized how much of an improvement Samsung has made in the 2 years since I had my intercept. Now HTC goes and forks around with the monkey business of locking the bootloader then giving an unlock method thats about as useful as a broken key to your front door, so now you gotta spend alot of time and effort attempting to break in your own Backdoor with out damaging anything
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Motorola official step towards unlocked bootloaders
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a
http://lifehacker.com/5935837/motor...news&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=pulsenews
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/08/1...ice-site-bootloader-freedom-has-come-at-last/
Thoughts Please.
Motorola just went up a notch in my book. They are at 2 now.
andrew.cambridge said:
Motorola just went up a notch in my book. They are at 2 now.
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lulz.
Someone pm a mod. Atrix_Owner is hacking into accounts now.
Also, it looks like it's only unlocking just a few phones. For now.
:bravo:
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This could be promising. Well see.
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Atrix 4G
Rom: Cyanogenmod 7.2 [20120805]
Recov: Romracer 5.0.2.7-atrix5
Radio: N_01.97.00R
Kernel: Faux 1.00ghz-026b1
UV: -0/-25/-50/-100/-150/-225/-300
Might consider buying future moto devices now.
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About time! I wonder if this is because they're under Google's orders now.
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Good job Motorola!!! Thank you Google
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Title should be "Motorola Launches Official Bootloader Unlocking Tool for Photon." Hopefully, they'll add more phones but I'll reserve praise until then.
Now you guys see that Motorola is not that bad?
Promising, but a pretty weak start.
https://motorola-global-portal.cust...sion/L3RpbWUvMTM0NTI1NzM4Ni9zaWQvQ1BBSCpZM2w=
xateeq said:
Motorola official step towards unlocked bootloaders
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a
http://lifehacker.com/5935837/motor...news&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=pulsenews
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/08/1...ice-site-bootloader-freedom-has-come-at-last/
Thoughts Please.
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Promising, but a pretty weak start.
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They have to start somewhere
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i think that more devices will be added as they get updated to ics because maybe right now the locked down gb bootloaders dont work with this tool so they are putting supported bootloaders in the ics roms.
Promising news for non AT&T folks! Finally be able to use an unlocked bootloader without the ramfix step. That is if the Atrix gets ICS with this magic bootloader.
Cheers!
Well hells yeah. Wish I knew more about boot loaders. I'm sure there is probably a way to reverse engineer unofficial ports. I'm greatful and awaiting Droid x unlock. I miss customized kernals
Such a relieving news giving a new ray of hope! Hope older devices like the Defy/Defy+ gets updated soon!
1. The site says its at your carriers discretion. so if you're on VZW, forget it.
1a. Already read somewhere else that if VZW discovers your phone has been unlocked, it will be removed from their network.
2. A lot of phones are getting Kexec builds, which is better than unlocking the bootloader anyways.
They can go blow themselves for not including the original Razr, that was my first and last Motorola Device and it will get replaced at the end of the month.
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They can go blow themselves for not including the original Razr, that was my first and last Motorola Device and it will get replaced at the end of the month.
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Original Razr was a flip phone. Kids these days...
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They can go blow themselves for not including the original Razr, that was my first and last Motorola Device and it will get replaced at the end of the month.
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That's an antique. Might be worth something on eBay!
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Hello, my verizon contract is expiring and that means time to get a new android device! I previously had an xperia play, and I probably won't be missing it very much since it never got anything official past gingerbread. Anyways I really wanted to know is how moddable the razr is, like if I were to get on with my new contract would the current root and bootloader exploits work? I've read a little about motorola devices never having an unlocked bootloader and motorola didn't seem to be a modder friendly company. I've built some android for my xperia play, up 4.2.2 and I want to make sure whichever phone I get, I can play around with the software on it if I don't like it.
phew, what a mouthful.
The RAZR M is very mod-able. The bootloader is easily unlocked now, and it is also easy to root. However, there aren't as many roms for the RAZR M compared to other phones.
I own a RAZR M and I like it a lot, but at this point with your upgrade discount, I might recommend the Galaxy S4 if you're concerned with modding. I'm sure the bootloader will be unlocked for it very soon if not already. And I'm sure it will be rooted soon as well. And the kicker is that there will be a lot more roms for the GS4 than the RAZR M.
At this point, I like the stock software a lot since it is very close to vanilla Android AOSP. I am currently using a custom yet stock rom that has all the verizon bloatware already removed.
I would recommend the RAZR M.
Bootloader unlocked able, and you can root and mod to your hearts content.
I really appreciated the work you did in the R800x forums.
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Hey cj! I also remember your work on the Play. I went with the Razr M and have had zero issues and zero regrets. It's sweet even running stock, especially after you kill the bloat
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Cool, I like the roms in the development forum I might be getting one. And hi guys funny seeing you here
cj360 said:
Cool, I like the roms in the development forum I might be getting one. And hi guys funny seeing you here
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It seems ATTACK joined the XT907 bandwagen as well.
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Only issue is internal memory its 8gb but moto has it partitioned down to 4gb unless I'm told you buy the dev edition otherwise its a great phone
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Only issue is internal memory its 8gb but moto has it partitioned down to 4gb unless I'm told you buy the dev edition otherwise its a great phone
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No reason it would be different on the Dev edition. They're the same phone except that on one of them, fastboot oem unlock doesn't fail out...
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