... and from what I'm reading, trigger gives great battery life. So how do I see what has been eating my battery life up? For instance, I unplugged 40 minutes ago and I am down to 91% already.
The regular option on the phone doesn't do a great job of troubleshooting this issue and just says "Display" and "Cell standby" as the relative battery use culprits. I figure, though, that this must be something I downloaded that is killing the battery. I love the ROM overall, but if this battery issue can't be resolved, I need to find something else quick. I'm a slave to a charge port.
Thanks.
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... and from what I'm reading, trigger gives great battery life. So how do I see what has been eating my battery life up? For instance, I unplugged 40 minutes ago and I am down to 91% already.
The regular option on the phone doesn't do a great job of troubleshooting this issue and just says "Display" and "Cell standby" as the relative battery use culprits. I figure, though, that this must be something I downloaded that is killing the battery. I love the ROM overall, but if this battery issue can't be resolved, I need to find something else quick. I'm a slave to a charge port.
Thanks.
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Have you tried conditioned your battery by wiping your battery stats.bin? Why didn't you flash the newest Trigger?
Yeah, you need multiple cycles for battery to be even close to accurate, and you should recalibrate.
Are you using other kernels or themes?
bionik9 said:
... and from what I'm reading, trigger gives great battery life. So how do I see what has been eating my battery life up? For instance, I unplugged 40 minutes ago and I am down to 91% already.
The regular option on the phone doesn't do a great job of troubleshooting this issue and just says "Display" and "Cell standby" as the relative battery use culprits. I figure, though, that this must be something I downloaded that is killing the battery. I love the ROM overall, but if this battery issue can't be resolved, I need to find something else quick. I'm a slave to a charge port.
Thanks.
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Let your phone die wipe battery stats in recovery mode. charge to 100% then use the battery calibration app from the market and re-calibrate the battery. I always repeat the process. Sometimes when flashing new ROMs your batterystats.bin can get a little funky so I always do this after flashing a ROM and my battery works great.
Definitely check the Kernel and Modem your running if there not the ones that came with Trigger than that could be causing your problem as well.
From what i have got from prior experiences. Using odin to go to stock as if your phone just came out of the box and then flashing removes all the old files. When i did this i went from getting almost 10 hours... now my phone gets 17 normal and if i dont use it as much as a normal day it iwll hit 24 hours no problem.
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Let your phone die wipe battery stats in recovery mode. charge to 100% then use the battery calibration app from the market and re-calibrate the battery. I always repeat the process. Sometimes when flashing new ROMs your batterystats.bin can get a little funky so I always do this after flashing a ROM and my battery works great.
Definitely check the Kernel and Modem your running if there not the ones that came with Trigger than that could be causing your problem as well.
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This post (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=806022) is saying to wipe battery stats at full charge... So what is it?
And why didn't I flash the newest version? It was when I flashed it.
What was the use in the 40 minutes after charge? I could see that if you had screen brightness high, and lots of wifi surfing or video use. I downloaded an app called 'screen filter' and it lets me lower the brightness lower than stock and I have noticed significant battery length increase since use. The stock dim options are not enough. Its still too bright and a waste of battery.
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This post (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=806022) is saying to wipe battery stats at full charge... So what is it?
And why didn't I flash the newest version? It was when I flashed it.
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Both. I wipe mine at 0 and at 100 but once you wipe make sure you fully charge without interuption and vice-versa
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Both. I wipe mine at 0 and at 100 but once you wipe make sure you fully charge without interuption and vice-versa
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same here, and i suggest you do the charging during night when your sleeping, so then there'll be no interruptions, like having to reboot for some odd reason etc. That can disturb the process of recalibration/conditioning.
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What was the use in the 40 minutes after charge? I could see that if you had screen brightness high, and lots of wifi surfing or video use. I downloaded an app called 'screen filter' and it lets me lower the brightness lower than stock and I have noticed significant battery length increase since use. The stock dim options are not enough. Its still too bright and a waste of battery.
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Pretty much nothing... Maybe looked at Facebook once and replied to a text?
So I drained it, wiped the battery stats, then looked at what it was doing - probably 1 minute after it was totally dead and wiped. The screen said it was at 14% already.
In less than a minute - 14%...
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So I drained it, wiped the battery stats, then looked at what it was doing - probably 1 minute after it was totally dead and wiped. The screen said it was at 14% already.
In less than a minute - 14%...
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Let it die again and wipe again. Your stats are off from the flash its normal. Just let completely die wipe charge wipe repeat. It will take a couple times normally to get back 100% right
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I used to chage my battery overnight with good results but since going to gingerbread it usually drops from 90-100% whne unplugging. was reading up and found out it's saftey feature created by Sammy.
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I followed directions on what I thought to be a battery fix, but it ended up making my battery life twice as bad. Actually it takes longer to charge now than it does to drain.
Anyone else have this happen?
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I did the same thing, but I've only charged once and I didn't time it. I haven't been timing any of my charges or discharges, but maybe give it some more time, that's kind of how stats work isn't it....usage over time? Good luck.
Today I started at 100% (not a powered off full charge though). After 2 hours of moderate use I was down to 50%. I have been charging for an hour via car charger and currently at 67%.
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Not to be a dink, but then it would appear that you didn't follow the instructions. As a result, YMMV I guess.
1. You will need to charge the phone to 100% (while the phone is off).
2. Leave charging cable plugged in.
3. Boot into recovery and wipe the battery stats (should be under Advanced).
4. Then boot into Android.
5. Then remove the charging cable.
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Give it another shot, and I would suggest that maybe it not be thought of as a "fix". Try using the wall charger as well. I only use the wall charger as I have a converter in my vehicles. Let us know how it goes!
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Not to be a dink, but then it would appear that you didn't follow the instructions. As a result, YMMV I guess.
Give it another shot, and I would suggest that maybe it not be thought of as a "fix". Try using the wall charger as well. I only use the wall charger as I have a converter in my vehicles. Let us know how it goes!
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Those are actually the directions that I followed yesterday afternoon. I didn't notice the battery life being any different after doing that initially. At the end of the day I charged my phone via wall charger for roughly 8 hours while I slept.
I was unplugged for less than two hours and watched it drop down 50%. Wifi was off, Gps also off. I was doing some web browsing and also using the xda app. I played a game for a couple of minutes.. That was it. I really should've checked the battery usage but I didn't think of it in time.
I only charged it in the car today out of necessity because of the super quick discharge. When I'm at home I only charge with the wall charger.
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I'd venture a guess that you have something else running the background. I honestly wish that I had something more for you, but I'm going to have to fold.
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I'd venture a guess that you have something else running the background. I honestly wish that I had something more for you, but I'm going to have to fold.
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I've heard others say they found facebook or twitter running in the background and that when they killed that it made a big difference in battery life. Perhaps that?
WiFi set to never turn off
I noticed this morning that WiFi had been set to never sleep, I just changed that t 15 min.
Had a full 100% charge last night did not leave on the charger, minimal use this morning down to 78%.
Let's see how the new WiFi settings works.
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I noticed this morning that WiFi had been set to never sleep, I just changed that t 15 min.
Had a full 100% charge last night did not leave on the charger, minimal use this morning down to 78%.
Let's see how the new WiFi settings works.
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that doesn't do anything unless you leave wifi on all the time, and if you do then that would be one solution to this problem.
htc_woe_is_me said:
Those are actually the directions that I followed yesterday afternoon. I didn't notice the battery life being any different after doing that initially. At the end of the day I charged my phone via wall charger for roughly 8 hours while I slept.
I was unplugged for less than two hours and watched it drop down 50%. Wifi was off, Gps also off. I was doing some web browsing and also using the xda app. I played a game for a couple of minutes.. That was it. I really should've checked the battery usage but I didn't think of it in time.
I only charged it in the car today out of necessity because of the super quick discharge. When I'm at home I only charge with the wall charger.
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I experienced the exact same issue after doing the battery thing yesterday. Tried several different kernals since then - no change: I could just about watch the battery go down. This morning I wiped and loaded SR Sense 2.5.2 and the updated stock kernal from ROM manager. We'll see how it goes...
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I experienced the exact same issue after doing the battery thing yesterday. Tried several different kernals since then - no change: I could just about watch the battery go down. This morning I wiped and loaded SR Sense 2.5.2 and the updated stock kernal from ROM manager. We'll see how it goes...
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I did this and just installed 2.5.2. I then installed the Hydra kernel and wiped battery stats when I was at 100% and the unit was off/green light. The battery has gone to crap too. Any ideas?
thats weird, i did wipe battery stats (correctly) at 11 last night. i woke up at 9:30 (lol) with 93% battery left. the phone was sleeping the whole time, but i had sync turned on and had recieved several facebook updates, txts, and emails. now im losing around 10%battery every two hours or so, and i am using the phone to send txts and emails every three to five minutes. so battery life is actually much better. after the cable is unplugged, is it necessary to let the battery die fully, then charge, or can i charge it now? (its at around 30%)
so basically, i was wondering if it is necessary to run your battery fully down after doing a wipe battery stats
I don't know what to tell you guys. Since wiping stats, my phone has been up for 36 consecutive hours with an awake time of 2:40 and the battery is at 30%.
For reference I guess....
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so basically, i was wondering if it is necessary to run your battery fully down after doing a wipe battery stats
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Great question. Anyone have any knowledge on this? I didn't let mine discharge all the way.
I do have some kind of update. I had to do a factory wipe today and since I did that my battery life has been much better.
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Has anyone else done this that can report there results?
I was about to do this but now I am skeered.
It's completely impossible for wiping your battery stats to make your battery life worse. It's a common misconception that by wiping your battery stats you somehow condition your battery. It's actually quite the opposite, because you're actually conditioning Android by wiping your stats. No matter what your battery percentage or meter says, your battery is still capable of holding a certain amount of electrical charge and your phone will not die until it's fully discharged. On the other hand it *might* make your percentage or battery meter read wrong if you either:
a. wiped your battery stats without a full bump charge (e.g. wiping your stats at 60% charge *might* make your phone think 60%=100% and as a result, you'd see huge decreases. but, you would most likely sit there with a phone showing a 1% charge for hours after it got there.)
b: didn't allow your phone to discharge fully after wiping your stats (same problem as example a, but the inverse of it)
All wiping your battery stats does is delete the file "batterystats.bin" from your /data/system folder. This file is recreated when you boot your phone after wiping them. It keeps the data on what's using your battery for when you click "battery use" in the settings menu. It's also thought to hold the stats that tell you phone what a full charge and no charge feels like and that if you fully bump charge your phone, wipe that battery stats, and then full discharge your phone (without interrupting it by switching ROMs or doing updates) that you will have a more accurate battery meter. It won't eliminate the need to bump charge your phone or make your battery life better. It will just be perceived as better since you won't get 20% drops in your reading in 30 minutes due to a badly calibrated batterystats.bin file. Also, you'll feel better because instead of looking at a 50% reading, you'll be looking at 60%.
Your battery still has the same capacity, charges to the same level, and discharges in the same amount of time. The only thing that can change those things are usage levels.
so should i redo my wipe battery stats then? when i originally did it, i ran it down to around 40%, then rebooted, then i plugged it in around 15%. would this mess it up then?
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It's completely impossible for wiping your battery stats to make your battery life worse. It's a common misconception that by wiping your battery stats you somehow condition your battery. It's actually quite the opposite, because you're actually conditioning Android by wiping your stats. No matter what your battery percentage or meter says, your battery is still capable of holding a certain amount of electrical charge and your phone will not die until it's fully discharged. On the other hand it *might* make your percentage or battery meter read wrong if you either:
a. wiped your battery stats without a full bump charge (e.g. wiping your stats at 60% charge *might* make your phone think 60%=100% and as a result, you'd see huge decreases. but, you would most likely sit there with a phone showing a 1% charge for hours after it got there.)
b: didn't allow your phone to discharge fully after wiping your stats (same problem as example a, but the inverse of it)
All wiping your battery stats does is delete the file "batterystats.bin" from your /data/system folder. This file is recreated when you boot your phone after wiping them. It keeps the data on what's using your battery for when you click "battery use" in the settings menu. It's also thought to hold the stats that tell you phone what a full charge and no charge feels like and that if you fully bump charge your phone, wipe that battery stats, and then full discharge your phone (without interrupting it by switching ROMs or doing updates) that you will have a more accurate battery meter. It won't eliminate the need to bump charge your phone or make your battery life better. It will just be perceived as better since you won't get 20% drops in your reading in 30 minutes due to a badly calibrated batterystats.bin file. Also, you'll feel better because instead of looking at a 50% reading, you'll be looking at 60%.
Your battery still has the same capacity, charges to the same level, and discharges in the same amount of time. The only thing that can change those things are usage levels.
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Do you know how we can see what's inside the actual batterystats.bin file? I tried in root explorer and cannot open in no matter how I try.
i dont care what vantagejuan says, when i tried this process...and did it correctly, my battery was down to 85% within an hour..i know this because i unplugged it when i woke up for work, and i when i clocked in, it was at 85%
it was never this bad, i tried locating the file again from an old backup, but it didnt help...im hoping that like someone else said, a couple cycles through it will get better
im using the skyraider 2.5.2 vanilla with the hydra oc/uv kernal
i had this setup before AND after trying the battery fix and im using the seidio 1750...
frustrations are back from when i first got the phone
Hi folks, I'm running CM6 8/26 nightly with Snap v7.4 kernel with SetCPU set to conservative on 998mhz max and 245mhz min. I'm getting horrid battery life and I think I'm doing something wrong: I wiped battery stats in Clockwork and now my battery SUCKS. -.-
Question is, what its the proper way of calibrating an Evo battery? I've seen the official HTC response but I don't think it's going to make a difference. Isn't there another method that requires you to drain the battery? Any info will be appreciated I've been looking at forums all day.
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letshaveDEX said:
Hi folks, I'm running CM6 8/26 nightly with Snap v7.4 kernel with SetCPU set to conservative on 998mhz max and 245mhz min. I'm getting horrid battery life and I think I'm doing something wrong: I wiped battery stats in Clockwork and now my battery SUCKS. -.-
Question is, what its the proper way of calibrating an Evo battery? I've seen the official HTC response but I don't think it's going to make a difference. Isn't there another method that requires you to drain the battery? Any info will be appreciated I've been looking at forums all day.
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You can't just wipe battery stats - there's a process to go through. What you're referring to is Cyanogen's battery recalibration method found here. Read through fully before wiping anything.
Thank u very much, I wiped the stats by mistake
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fachadick said:
You can't just wipe battery stats - there's a process to go through. What you're referring to is Cyanogen's battery recalibration method found here. Read through fully before wiping anything.
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Actually it is almost as simple as wiping battery stats. That command he gives is what the wipe battery stats command in the recoveries do.
1. Charge battery to full (where it's actually 100% not green light.
2. Boot into recovery wipe battery stats.
3. Fully boot into os then unplug charger.
4. Leave unplugged until the phone shuts itself off.
At that point you should be calibrated.
On a related topic, the Battery Graph app available in the market also has an option to wipe battery stats from within the OS, doesn't it? Might save having to reboot into recovery once you're charged up.
It's a lithium battery. You can't condition it. Just use it as normal and ignore all these placebo effect steps.
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It's a lithium battery. You can't condition it. Just use it as normal and ignore all these placebo effect steps.
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This is all about calibrating the software (battery stats).
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It's a lithium battery. You can't condition it. Just use it as normal and ignore all these placebo effect steps.
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They're not calibrating the battery. they're calibrating the phone to know when the battery is really fully charged which, until you do this, is not the case when the charge light turns green.
Regardless, none of this worked. I've quit all services, no sync, auto brightness and wifi and I'm still getting horrible battery life. SetCPU is set to conservative. It's BULL**** my display is on for thirty minutes and the battery dies 20%. I played a game on my friend's iPhone 4 for twenty minutes and his battery barely died 3%. This is really unacceptable and I'm probably going to return my Evo or sell it if the battery life doesn't get better soon from these methods I'm seeing online
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Crazy man, maybe something happened cause that is pretty bad.
Have a backup to go back to, prior to this happening, to see if it reverts back to normal?
Naw nothing happened to my phone...... All of us Evo owners should be able to use this beautiful phone with all of the features at max without the battery going to ****. My phone has behaved this way since unboxing. I'm not a big fan of the iPhone 4 but I will give it props on battery life. I have yet to try the longer HTC method but it seems kind of pointless.....
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If it has always been like that then you may have a bad battery, if it started after you wiped the battery data then it is just showing you bad readings.
You should be able to get a good calibration if you reset your battery data again, maybe try through your recovery if possible, and then fully charge it with your phone turned off. Once it is charged you can either use it normally till it dies or you can tether, use gps, watch youtube, etc, and drain the battery down. Just make sure you go from a full charge to the phone shutting itself off without plugging it in to anything. Do that charging with it off and using it till it dies two or three times and your battery stats will be calibrated.
When I did this to mine it showed my battery at 0% for at least half an hour before it finally died, and that was with me listening to pandora and browsing the web.
Edit: FYI, the Evo's talk time is usually between 6.5 to 7.5 hrs, the iPhone 4 is around 7 hours also. If your battery is not lasting that long you need to take it in to sprint and have them give you a new battery.
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......I have yet to try the longer HTC method but it seems kind of pointless.....
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HTC's method worked wonders for me. i'm a heavy heavy HEAVY user (no, not fat) and I get a good 10 hours with everything besides 4g on plus surfing, gaming and tethering for SEVERAL hours. For all that I do on my EVO 10 hours is HUGE. If I have a moderate day of usage (maybe a little more than moderate for the average user) I get around 19 hours.
Btw none of this will help if you are getting near 100% awake time. If that's the case you need to find the software causing that first.
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Try this, it helped me. I did not come up with this btw.
With phone on, charge until green.
Unplug and turn phone completely off.
Charge phone until green once again.
Unplugand turn on. Once phone had turned completely on turn the phone back off again.
Charge until green one more time then unplug and turn on and you're done!
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After much googling this is the way that seems to be best when recalibrating battery. I just see so many people with poor battery life and it's likely because you've flashed new kernels and roms 50 times a week =p
Minor update! I recalibrate my phone today and realized something, this is reflected in a few new steps.
Step 1: Charge phone to 100%
Step 2: Wipe battery stats and shut phone off.
Step 3: UNPLUG PHONE and power on
Step 4: Leave phone on until it it shuts itself off. Do not plug it in.
Step 5: Turn phone back on, still unplugged. If it can't turn on that's fine. If it can turn on let it fully drain again.
Step 6: LEAVE PHONE OFF. Plug the phone in and let it FULLY charge without interruption. I let my phone hit the green light and then wait an hour before step 7. Some people suggest waiting 3 hours, some people suggest longer.
Step 7: After it's hit green and you've waiting a while unplug your phone. Do not turn it on. Wait a minute and then plug it back in. If the light stays amber for more than a few seconds (like 10 tops) leave it charging again until it's green.
Step 8: Repeat step 7 until the light turns green very soon after you plug it back in.
Step 9: Unplug and turn your phone on. Enjoy your (hopefully) extended battery.
I also suggest using "Juiceplotter" widget. It "records" your phones battery usage and uses it to predict future battery life. It won't work perfectly for the first day or so but after it gets used to your habits it's very good at predicting.
EDIT: NOW AN APP
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1024867
I haven't tried that out. Going to try to and I'll post results.
Thanks dude, I guess this will work with calibrating a new battery too? Just got the 3500 battery and was wondering exactly how to calibrate it for the first time...
Yes and I suggest recalibrating if you
a) Have a new battery of any kind
b) Have a new eris but the same battery
c) Flash a new kernel
d) Have been flashing many new roms
I find it' s a good habit to only flash roms when you're battery is at 100% to prevent your phone from getting too confused.
I read that after 5-6 full discharges of the Seidio 3500 battery that your battery life will improve... But I also heard that full discharging and then charging isn't as great for your battery... so what should I exactly do? I've already discharged and fully charged it once.
HM, you should also start a thread about "Tweaks I've found useful, and how to do them" and share your findings with everyone. I think that would be very helpful to noobs and the less-than-technical types that would like to get more out of their Eris'.
I know that's alot of work, but I'm sure lots of people would help answer questions when you're not available.
And you can add stuff as you go, wip type page Just a thought, cheers!
I'll consider that, I just feel like I don't have all that much to contribute that others haven't already lol but we'll see.
"I read that after 5-6 full discharges of the Seidio 3500 battery that your battery life will improve... But I also heard that full discharging and then charging isn't as great for your battery... so what should I exactly do? I've already discharged and fully charged it once."
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Your eris's battery will never discharge completely, it turns itself off WELL before that point. You don't have to worry about hurting your battery in this day and age, maybe 10 years ago.
If you've discharged and fully charged once it might be recalibrated. Are you still having battery problems?
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I'll consider that, I just feel like I don't have all that much to contribute that others haven't already lol but...
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No, I hear ya, but to have most of the good tweaks in one thread would a helpful thing here.
I'll edit the first post in a few minutes, having internet troubles.
Eh on second though the only things I really have are the smoothness, another 3 build.prop things (only two of which are really tested) and the battery recalibration. I'll leave it as is =p
I found this awhile back on the XDA portal, don't know if its helps cause I've never tried it myself but it might help some others here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=755903
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I found this awhile back on the XDA portal, don't know if its helps cause I've never tried it myself but it might help some others here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=755903
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This is one way to calibrate it but if you've been flashing roms/kernels just going to "100%" isn't enough because your phone doesn't know what 100% is. I'm sure that way works well when there isn't a huge problem but for some people their batteries are way out of whack.
How about having 2 battery?
Right now i have 2 battery and switch one of them when other runout of power.
Should i calibrate both of them?
Is my way to switch battery is wise?
Thx
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Don't switch between a 30% battery and a 100% battery, try to keep them around the same percentage. I can't say for sure because I don't know how the phone deals with that..
I tried this method yesterday (charged to 100%) , then last night and this morning drained the battery till dead and then charged to 1 hour after LED turned green. After I re-started my phone I was getting 1 % battery drop almost every 30 seconds, or every time I touched the phone it would drop a percentage point. :yikes:
So, I incorporated the "other" method mentioned here and turned my phone off (at 90%), plugged the charger back in and let it charge about 30 minutes after the LED turned green. I then booted the phone into recovery (while still plugged into the charger) and wiped battery stats, rebooted, and then unplugged the charger.
After this, I left it on for about 10 minutes with 3G and Sync active and only got 1% drop.
Kinda thinking this may be the ticket, for my phone at least.
Thanks for posting this up, I'll keep an eye on things and see if I can notice a difference. I was getting pretty decent battery life prior to this, but I agree that things need to be cleaned out sometimes after all these flashes.
I'm going to wipe GPS this afternoon and re-set it. Too much fun!
Yeah I did this method, wiped stats at 100% let die completely, charged all night turned it on and only had ninety percent and falling without using it.
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36 hours at 9%
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Yes, my battery life is pretty ridiculous. I haven't dropped down to 50% since I did this.
I've gotten to 66% while on a lengthy phone conversation with my Gameboy emulator in the background, and then some gameboy (fully overclocked) for another hour at least.
I suggest using "JuicePlotter" widget for monitoring battery. After a few days it becomes very accurate.
I'll check out juice.
No setcpu. Just stock 710Mhz. Conap's CFS kernel is light on the battery.
Also, I play around with the auto bright settings to use the minimal needed for various lighting environments.
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Another satisfied 'customer' .. re calibrated and did the Airplane trick .. battery life is great and pickup on reception as well! Thanks for the work!
Cheers
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I'll check out juice.
No setcpu. Just stock 710Mhz. Conap's CFS kernel is light on the battery.
Also, I play around with the auto bright settings to use the minimal needed for various lighting environments.
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I see a lot of people not using SetCPU anymore. I like using it to underclock while the phone is not being used. If the kernel is 710Mhz stock now, would I just set SetCPU to 528Mhz for normal use or would that override the kernel?
Sorry to start another thread on battery issues but I was unable to find a scenario like mine.
Hey everybody, Im new to the android scene, just got my vibrant less than a month ago. Before that I had an Iphone 3g. So far I like the phone but the battery life is horrible. When I surf the internet on wifi or 3g I noticed that I use like 3-5% in a matter of 5 mins. Is this normal? I consider myself to be a light-moderate user and have been getting and average of 12 hours or so on my vibrant. Also if it makes any difference when my phone is idle or being used my temperature runs around the high 80's low 90's but when being charged it drops to the low 80's or high 70's. What is going on? How can I get more 20 hours on my phone? With the iphone I used to get an easy 15 hours and still have like 40-50% remaining.
aamir123 said:
Sorry to start another thread on battery issues but I was unable to find a scenario like mine.
Hey everybody, Im new to the android scene, just got my vibrant less than a month ago. Before that I had an Iphone 3g. So far I like the phone but the battery life is horrible. When I surf the internet on wifi or 3g I noticed that I use like 3-5% in a matter of 5 mins. Is this normal? I consider myself to be a light-moderate user and have been getting and average of 12 hours or so on my vibrant. Also if it makes any difference when my phone is idle or being used my temperature runs around the high 80's low 90's but when being charged it drops to the low 80's or high 70's. What is going on? How can I get more 20 hours on my phone? With the iphone I used to get an easy 15 hours and still have like 40-50% remaining.
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Try a different rom?
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When I first got the vibrant, it had pretty bad battery life, I would lose like 25% while sleeping 8-10 hrs. So light usage would be like a day. Slowly I started to get longer battery life (2 days on light usage). Recently I could get up to like 3.5 days on real light usage. After updating to JI6, max I can get now is like 3 days. I didn't really do much and I tripled my battery life by just giving it time.
Thanks burntrat I guess ill be patient. And I must mention that I am running stock.i was just worried because my battery temperature gets colder when charging and warmer when idle or running.
burntrat said:
When I first got the vibrant, it had pretty bad battery life, I would lose like 25% while sleeping 8-10 hrs. So light usage would be like a day. Slowly I started to get longer battery life (2 days on light usage). Recently I could get up to like 3.5 days on real light usage. After updating to JI6, max I can get now is like 3 days. I didn't really do much and I tripled my battery life by just giving it time.
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Hey burntrat or anybody, has your battery ever acted sort of schizophrenic on you? I mean one day I leave it on standby and its drains like 1% in 7-10 hours another day I leave it on standby and it drains 18% in about 4 hours. Whats going on?
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Hey burntrat or anybody, has your battery ever acted sort of schizophrenic on you? I mean one day I leave it on standby and its drains like 1% in 7-10 hours another day I leave it on standby and it drains 18% in about 4 hours. Whats going on?
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It happens
If ur super concerned get these 2 apps
~juice defender
~ super power
My battery has been draining inconsistently lately. It drains faster in the 50-100% level. Under 50%, it feels like it drains slower while doing the same stuff.
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It happens
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Juice defender doesnt work for me, but ill have to try superpower, anyways I just feel that its weird that without anything changing, my battery drains differently on different days. Burntrat I think thats normal for every phone, the last 50% always seem to drain slower.
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if your phone is draining a lot during standby or sleeping. There may be a rogue app out there or an app that didnt shut down properly. (I guess that would mean a rogue app)
ELStiko said:
if your phone is draining a lot during standby or sleeping. There may be a rogue app out there or an app that didnt shut down properly. (I guess that would mean a rogue app)
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nope task manager shows everything as clear, and if I have a rogue app why is it acting up one day and not the other? Btw it seems to skip a daybetween bad battery life
aamir123 said:
nope task manager shows everything as clear, and if I have a rogue app why is it acting up one day and not the other? Btw it seems to skip a daybetween bad battery life
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I had the same problem, stock task manger doesn't show all of the apps.
Check ur services, go to settings apps manage apps running applications.
Or instead of that I brought the advanced task killer back to check on things
@aamir123 and burntrat: maybe you guys need to calibrate your battery? Also the stock rom usually has a lot of bloatware running in the background. Flashing a custom rom oughta do the trick.
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@aamir123 and burntrat: maybe you guys need to calibrate your battery? Also the stock rom usually has a lot of bloatware running in the background. Flashing a custom rom oughta do the trick.
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How do you recalibrate the battery?
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Try this. Download the system panel app from the market. You can set it to monitor your system and it will chart what applications are running and how much they are using the cpu. If you find you have some unnecessary bloatware running in the background download titanium backup and freeze those apps.
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How do you recalibrate the battery?
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There are a lot of different ways mentioned in different forums. Try this:
Let your battery drain all the way to the point when it turns off by itself.
Charge it while its off until its full.
Unplug it, turn the phone on, then plug it in again.
After it reaches 100, unplug the charger and turn your phone off.
Once off, plug it in and let the charging complete.
Once complete, unplug it and turn the phone on. When everything has loaded, turn the phone off (note: no charging involved in this step.)
After it turns off, charge it one last time until 100%. After this, go into recovery and clear battery info (or cache, I forget). There you go
Oh, and its better if you don't download too many apps that monitor battery usage, cpu etc. cuz they will contribute to the battery consumption.
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chikin said:
There are a lot of different ways mentioned in different forums. Try this:
Let your battery drain all the way to the point when it turns off by itself.
Charge it while its off until its full.
Unplug it, turn the phone on, then plug it in again.
After it reaches 100, unplug the charger and turn your phone off.
Once off, plug it in and let the charging complete.
Once complete, unplug it and turn the phone on. When everything has loaded, turn the phone off (note: no charging involved in this step.)
After it turns off, charge it one last time until 100%. After this, go into recovery and clear battery info (or cache, I forget). There you go
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It isn't a good idea to let your battery drain all the way to zero since it is lithium ion. I think skipping that part and just charging it when it's on to full, then off to full, then on to full, then off to full and then wiping battery stats would suffice. Also you need to have clockwork recovery to wipe battery stats.
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It isn't a good idea to let your battery drain all the way to zero since it is lithium ion. I think skipping that part and just charging it when it's on to full, then off to full, then on to full, then off to full and then wiping battery stats would suffice. Also you need to have clockwork recovery to wipe battery stats.
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When the phone turns off by itself, the battery still has some juice left in it to prevent it from losing the ability to charge, if that's what you meant by not a good idea cuz its lithium ion. If thats not what you meant, then please explain why.
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When I first got the vibrant, it had pretty bad battery life, I would lose like 25% while sleeping 8-10 hrs. So light usage would be like a day. Slowly I started to get longer battery life (2 days on light usage). Recently I could get up to like 3.5 days on real light usage. After updating to JI6, max I can get now is like 3 days. I didn't really do much and I tripled my battery life by just giving it time.
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Agreed. In my case, I barely lasted 12 hours on moderate use with any of the JI6 2.1 ROMS (Eugene's, Bionix, Fusion, etc). I think after I updated to 2.2, all of the ROMS have been giving me 18+ hours on moderate-heavy use no matter what modem or kernel I use.
So where is the "unique" problem?
jimmynguyen91 said:
It isn't a good idea to let your battery drain all the way to zero since it is lithium ion. I think skipping that part and just charging it when it's on to full, then off to full, then on to full, then off to full and then wiping battery stats would suffice. Also you need to have clockwork recovery to wipe battery stats.
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This is true.
Try this, it helPed, me get like 10 more hours.
Charge till 100.
Shut down
Plug in usb until the green battery shows up and says completed our something.
Reboot
Charge for5 minutes.
Reboot
Done.
I don't know if it's my imagination, but since the 2.4.6 update, my battery life has dropped a bit. By the time I get into my office from my morning commute, I'm anywhere in the 65-70% battery life after unplugging from a full charge. I haven't done anything new. I always unplug around 8:30 am when I head out, I do some light chatting with gf, browse some sites, check facebook (usually very briefly), and maybe sometimes do a little reading on my device. By the time I get into the office around 9:30 or 10 AM, I'm usually around the 80-85% area with battery.
Lately, doing the same thing, I'm seeing the aforementioned 65-70%.
Is anyone else experiencing decreased battery life since 2.3.6?
I'm on a Tmobile Nexus S, running stock 2.3.6 (no custom ROMs).
2.4.6 ? .... maybe 2.3.6 ... and yes, I also noticed a slight increase in power consuption after the upgrade. The stand-by is still great .. about 0.8 - 1% per hour.
Sorry, yes I meant 2.3.6.
Thanks for replying Ro_explorer. Is your increased power consumption significant? Seeing 65-70% when I'm used to seeing 80-85% as I get into my office, I find, is a large change. To be frank, the battery life of the Nexus S in general isn't so fantastic to begin with... this hit makes it worse.
Anyone else?
I used to get home with about 40-50% after a whole "normal day" (unplugged at 8AM, and getting back home at ~8PM) .. now (with the same average usage) I'm getting home with ~30-40% ... that why I said "slight increase" ...
Not your imagination, I too have noticed this. I hope the next update, will fix this - as I used to get pretty good battery life (even with over 250 apps).
When I recently updated to the 2.3.6, it caused a bug of continuous reboot (every 1-3 minutes), so I had to do a hard reset - now it works fine, but I only have added back about 15 apps - and the battery life sux!
Downgrade OS' it will be ok.
This is so weird. Why is the battery life worse?
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Sorry, yes I meant 2.3.6.
Thanks for replying Ro_explorer. Is your increased power consumption significant? Seeing 65-70% when I'm used to seeing 80-85% as I get into my office, I find, is a large change. To be frank, the battery life of the Nexus S in general isn't so fantastic to begin with... this hit makes it worse.
Anyone else?
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You want bad battery life? Try an Evo 4g with a Sense rom. I averaged about 6hrs using a 1500mAh battery, in stock form.
The nexus is pretty light on power consumption, if you ask me. I average 15hrs on the stock 2.3.7 rom/kernel combo, with stock battery.
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I'm on 2.3.6 and need to charge every two days. I text a lot and do light gaming. I'm typing this from my phone. Maybe you could drain the battery and wipe battery stats? I'm not even at 50% yet and I charged yesterday.
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I also noticed that the battery last less time
I've been waiting to see if anybody else reporting this issue
i noticed a decent increase in battery life going to 2.3.7 and thought that previously the battery life had been fairly poor :\
I am non rooted, and get around 20 hrs on light to moderate use. Again. Stock, non rooted.
How do I recalibrate my battery? I wonder if it could be that...
There are many was to recalibrate. Some involve wiping batt stats, some plugging and unplugging phone several times after charge.
I have always found that using the battery almost all the way down, but not past 5%, and then full recharge conditions it very well.
Oh I've been here to solve the problem
"Why last 2 weeks my Nexus s drain battery so fast ? or I have to calibrate it"
Thank for your notice about update OS to 2.3.6.
I think that's a root cause for me too.
1. Could I rollback to 2.3.4 ,how?
2. Does battery calibration is useful for this case , how?( someone suggest to calibrate when flashing new rom )
Thank you very much..
i want to know who have some methods to do with this stuff
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There are many was to recalibrate. Some involve wiping batt stats, some plugging and unplugging phone several times after charge.
I have always found that using the battery almost all the way down, but not past 5%, and then full recharge conditions it very well.
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Whenever switching roms, kernels, or batteries, i always perform the following :
1. Charge to a true 100% (Battery Monitor Widget will register +0 to +2 mA)
2. Wipe battery stats using recovery (Amon RA has this option for the Evo, not sure about cwm), Battery Monitor Widget, or a dedicated app.
3. Discharge battery to 0% with normal usage. When the phone shuts down, I pull and re-install the battery and power back up (it will shutdown again very quickly).
4. Recharge battery and be on my merry way.
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I found one workaround solution for this issue on
ww.google.com/support/forum/p/Google+Mobile/thread?tid=1684c50cea15282a&hl=en&fid=1684c50cea15282a0004af022e5ed212
Sproogle77 's solution
Problem solved. Using the OS Monitor app, I found that the main culprit was Google Services - the Contacts sync specifically. Even though I had this disabled (only Gmail was being allowed to sync) it was constantly working, apparently trying to fix a location. The message log showed that it was generating continuous debug messages, all about locations - around 10 of these every second.
I have solved the problem by disabling 'Use wireless networks' under the Locations & Security settings.'Use GPS satellites' is still running. This immediately dropped my CPU usage - which had been running around 30 to 40% even when otherwise idle, to around 10%. Google contacts sync is now using 0% of the CPU. The difference in battery life was pretty much immediate and is now back to what it was before - the change in the slope on the battery usage graph is remarkable!
This doesn't really seem like a solution to me, and I don't know whether other aspects of my functionality are being affected, but at least my phone is properly useable again.
I'm testing for 1 day and I think that's working for me.
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This is so weird. Why is the battery life worse?
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One reason is that the new version of the stock kernel removed a speed stepping, so it'll power to higher levels faster, thus using more battery.
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One reason is that the new version of the stock kernel removed a speed stepping, so it'll power to higher levels faster, thus using more battery.
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That actually isn't the problem. I'm using netarchy's kernel and still get this problem.
My battery life dropped from 16 hours --> 6 hours. the slope on my battery usage life is horrible the system is also awake almost constantly even when I'm not touching it / getting no messages.
I will try the fix suggested on the google support forum and see if that does the trick. sloppy update.