I followed directions on what I thought to be a battery fix, but it ended up making my battery life twice as bad. Actually it takes longer to charge now than it does to drain.
Anyone else have this happen?
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I did the same thing, but I've only charged once and I didn't time it. I haven't been timing any of my charges or discharges, but maybe give it some more time, that's kind of how stats work isn't it....usage over time? Good luck.
Today I started at 100% (not a powered off full charge though). After 2 hours of moderate use I was down to 50%. I have been charging for an hour via car charger and currently at 67%.
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Not to be a dink, but then it would appear that you didn't follow the instructions. As a result, YMMV I guess.
1. You will need to charge the phone to 100% (while the phone is off).
2. Leave charging cable plugged in.
3. Boot into recovery and wipe the battery stats (should be under Advanced).
4. Then boot into Android.
5. Then remove the charging cable.
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Give it another shot, and I would suggest that maybe it not be thought of as a "fix". Try using the wall charger as well. I only use the wall charger as I have a converter in my vehicles. Let us know how it goes!
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Not to be a dink, but then it would appear that you didn't follow the instructions. As a result, YMMV I guess.
Give it another shot, and I would suggest that maybe it not be thought of as a "fix". Try using the wall charger as well. I only use the wall charger as I have a converter in my vehicles. Let us know how it goes!
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Those are actually the directions that I followed yesterday afternoon. I didn't notice the battery life being any different after doing that initially. At the end of the day I charged my phone via wall charger for roughly 8 hours while I slept.
I was unplugged for less than two hours and watched it drop down 50%. Wifi was off, Gps also off. I was doing some web browsing and also using the xda app. I played a game for a couple of minutes.. That was it. I really should've checked the battery usage but I didn't think of it in time.
I only charged it in the car today out of necessity because of the super quick discharge. When I'm at home I only charge with the wall charger.
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I'd venture a guess that you have something else running the background. I honestly wish that I had something more for you, but I'm going to have to fold.
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I'd venture a guess that you have something else running the background. I honestly wish that I had something more for you, but I'm going to have to fold.
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I've heard others say they found facebook or twitter running in the background and that when they killed that it made a big difference in battery life. Perhaps that?
WiFi set to never turn off
I noticed this morning that WiFi had been set to never sleep, I just changed that t 15 min.
Had a full 100% charge last night did not leave on the charger, minimal use this morning down to 78%.
Let's see how the new WiFi settings works.
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I noticed this morning that WiFi had been set to never sleep, I just changed that t 15 min.
Had a full 100% charge last night did not leave on the charger, minimal use this morning down to 78%.
Let's see how the new WiFi settings works.
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that doesn't do anything unless you leave wifi on all the time, and if you do then that would be one solution to this problem.
htc_woe_is_me said:
Those are actually the directions that I followed yesterday afternoon. I didn't notice the battery life being any different after doing that initially. At the end of the day I charged my phone via wall charger for roughly 8 hours while I slept.
I was unplugged for less than two hours and watched it drop down 50%. Wifi was off, Gps also off. I was doing some web browsing and also using the xda app. I played a game for a couple of minutes.. That was it. I really should've checked the battery usage but I didn't think of it in time.
I only charged it in the car today out of necessity because of the super quick discharge. When I'm at home I only charge with the wall charger.
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I experienced the exact same issue after doing the battery thing yesterday. Tried several different kernals since then - no change: I could just about watch the battery go down. This morning I wiped and loaded SR Sense 2.5.2 and the updated stock kernal from ROM manager. We'll see how it goes...
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I experienced the exact same issue after doing the battery thing yesterday. Tried several different kernals since then - no change: I could just about watch the battery go down. This morning I wiped and loaded SR Sense 2.5.2 and the updated stock kernal from ROM manager. We'll see how it goes...
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I did this and just installed 2.5.2. I then installed the Hydra kernel and wiped battery stats when I was at 100% and the unit was off/green light. The battery has gone to crap too. Any ideas?
thats weird, i did wipe battery stats (correctly) at 11 last night. i woke up at 9:30 (lol) with 93% battery left. the phone was sleeping the whole time, but i had sync turned on and had recieved several facebook updates, txts, and emails. now im losing around 10%battery every two hours or so, and i am using the phone to send txts and emails every three to five minutes. so battery life is actually much better. after the cable is unplugged, is it necessary to let the battery die fully, then charge, or can i charge it now? (its at around 30%)
so basically, i was wondering if it is necessary to run your battery fully down after doing a wipe battery stats
I don't know what to tell you guys. Since wiping stats, my phone has been up for 36 consecutive hours with an awake time of 2:40 and the battery is at 30%.
For reference I guess....
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so basically, i was wondering if it is necessary to run your battery fully down after doing a wipe battery stats
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Great question. Anyone have any knowledge on this? I didn't let mine discharge all the way.
I do have some kind of update. I had to do a factory wipe today and since I did that my battery life has been much better.
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Has anyone else done this that can report there results?
I was about to do this but now I am skeered.
It's completely impossible for wiping your battery stats to make your battery life worse. It's a common misconception that by wiping your battery stats you somehow condition your battery. It's actually quite the opposite, because you're actually conditioning Android by wiping your stats. No matter what your battery percentage or meter says, your battery is still capable of holding a certain amount of electrical charge and your phone will not die until it's fully discharged. On the other hand it *might* make your percentage or battery meter read wrong if you either:
a. wiped your battery stats without a full bump charge (e.g. wiping your stats at 60% charge *might* make your phone think 60%=100% and as a result, you'd see huge decreases. but, you would most likely sit there with a phone showing a 1% charge for hours after it got there.)
b: didn't allow your phone to discharge fully after wiping your stats (same problem as example a, but the inverse of it)
All wiping your battery stats does is delete the file "batterystats.bin" from your /data/system folder. This file is recreated when you boot your phone after wiping them. It keeps the data on what's using your battery for when you click "battery use" in the settings menu. It's also thought to hold the stats that tell you phone what a full charge and no charge feels like and that if you fully bump charge your phone, wipe that battery stats, and then full discharge your phone (without interrupting it by switching ROMs or doing updates) that you will have a more accurate battery meter. It won't eliminate the need to bump charge your phone or make your battery life better. It will just be perceived as better since you won't get 20% drops in your reading in 30 minutes due to a badly calibrated batterystats.bin file. Also, you'll feel better because instead of looking at a 50% reading, you'll be looking at 60%.
Your battery still has the same capacity, charges to the same level, and discharges in the same amount of time. The only thing that can change those things are usage levels.
so should i redo my wipe battery stats then? when i originally did it, i ran it down to around 40%, then rebooted, then i plugged it in around 15%. would this mess it up then?
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It's completely impossible for wiping your battery stats to make your battery life worse. It's a common misconception that by wiping your battery stats you somehow condition your battery. It's actually quite the opposite, because you're actually conditioning Android by wiping your stats. No matter what your battery percentage or meter says, your battery is still capable of holding a certain amount of electrical charge and your phone will not die until it's fully discharged. On the other hand it *might* make your percentage or battery meter read wrong if you either:
a. wiped your battery stats without a full bump charge (e.g. wiping your stats at 60% charge *might* make your phone think 60%=100% and as a result, you'd see huge decreases. but, you would most likely sit there with a phone showing a 1% charge for hours after it got there.)
b: didn't allow your phone to discharge fully after wiping your stats (same problem as example a, but the inverse of it)
All wiping your battery stats does is delete the file "batterystats.bin" from your /data/system folder. This file is recreated when you boot your phone after wiping them. It keeps the data on what's using your battery for when you click "battery use" in the settings menu. It's also thought to hold the stats that tell you phone what a full charge and no charge feels like and that if you fully bump charge your phone, wipe that battery stats, and then full discharge your phone (without interrupting it by switching ROMs or doing updates) that you will have a more accurate battery meter. It won't eliminate the need to bump charge your phone or make your battery life better. It will just be perceived as better since you won't get 20% drops in your reading in 30 minutes due to a badly calibrated batterystats.bin file. Also, you'll feel better because instead of looking at a 50% reading, you'll be looking at 60%.
Your battery still has the same capacity, charges to the same level, and discharges in the same amount of time. The only thing that can change those things are usage levels.
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Do you know how we can see what's inside the actual batterystats.bin file? I tried in root explorer and cannot open in no matter how I try.
i dont care what vantagejuan says, when i tried this process...and did it correctly, my battery was down to 85% within an hour..i know this because i unplugged it when i woke up for work, and i when i clocked in, it was at 85%
it was never this bad, i tried locating the file again from an old backup, but it didnt help...im hoping that like someone else said, a couple cycles through it will get better
im using the skyraider 2.5.2 vanilla with the hydra oc/uv kernal
i had this setup before AND after trying the battery fix and im using the seidio 1750...
frustrations are back from when i first got the phone
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I decided to do an experiment this morning. My fiance and I both have Dincs. We're both running SkyRaider 2.0.1. We both have the 1500mah touch pro 2 battery. I bump charged both phones this morning and both went off the charger at 8:30. I cleared my battery stats in clockwork immediately after the bump charge. I didn't clear her battery stats. She had been getting better battery life largely because I use my phone a lot more than she does. That changed today.
The numbers don't lie...
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my phone - battery bump charged and battery stats wiped:
8/3 - off charger: 8:30am
Stats @ 10AM
Uptime: 1.5 hours
Awake: 1.25 hours
% left: 94%
Stats @ 12:30PM
Uptime: 4 hours
Awake: 3.75 hours
% left: 85%
Stats @ 3:45PM
Uptime: 7.25 hours
Awake: 7 hours
% left: 68%
Stats @ 12:30AM
Uptime: 16 hours
Awake: 10.5 hours
% left: 24%
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Fiance's Phone - Bump Charged, battery stats not wiped:
8/3 - off charger: 8:30am
Stats @ 12:30PM
Uptime: 4 hours
Awake: 1.25 hours
% left: 68%
Stats @ 12:30AM
Uptime: 16 hours
Awake: 7 hours
% left: 12%
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I've come to the conclusion that wiping your battery stats is a very important thing to do and will give you hours more battery life. I'm currently losing a little over 4% per hour, which should give me 23-25 hours of battery life. This is a very significant improvement over the 14-16 hours that she will likely get.
I do find it really odd however that my Uptime and Awake Time are so close. This would normally lead me to believe that some program isn't letting my phone go to sleep, but my battery life indicates that isn't happening.
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Day 2: Didn't get rid of need to bump charge. First bump charge actually seemed to take a little longer this morning (over 30 minutes). Second bump was 6 minutes. Had to scrap today since my fiance's phone didn't charge last night. It wasn't plugged into the wall. Doh!
i might give this a try. i'll be interested to see if others try it and see what their results are.
Would I have to clear battery stats every day in order to achieve this additional battery life, or is it only a semi-regular thing?
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How do you wipe them in clockwork?
Question- did you fully charge, wipe, then drain battery down /all the way/ before re-charging (e.g. phone shuts itself down) or did you charge, wipe, and then let it drain a bit and then just plug it back in the charger at night without letting it shut itself down from lack of battery?
Thanks.
I just tried this earlier as well. I bump charged (charged with power off until led went green, booted all the way up, and then powered off, repeated this cycle like 3 times) and then wiped battery stats in clockworkmod (it's in advanced).
Too soon to see if it makes a difference, and I really didn't have any problems but figured longer is better right
Edit: I now plan to let the phone run until it shuts its self off
partizan81 said:
Would I have to clear battery stats every day in order to achieve this additional battery life, or is it only a semi-regular thing?
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I doubt it, but don't know for sure yet. I'm tempted to charge it back up now to see if there is a difference in length of time spent bump charging. I hope it shortens it. I won't be clearing either of our stats tomorrow to see if the battery gains comparable to hers stick.
craigmack said:
How do you wipe them in clockwork?
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reboot into clockwork, scroll to advanced (i believe), then wipe battery stats
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Question- did you fully charge, wipe, then drain battery down /all the way/ before re-charging (e.g. phone shuts itself down) or did you charge, wipe, and then let it drain a bit and then just plug it back in the charger at night without letting it shut itself down from lack of battery?
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I let it drain itself all the way, then charged it overnight. woke up. bump charged for 1 cycle then cleared the stats.
Doesn't work for me, bump charged this morning then booted to recovery and wiped battery stats. If anything, it appears my battery life is worse and one side effect is I did not have 3g on the first reboot.
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Doesn't work for me, bump charged this morning then booted to recovery and wiped battery stats. If anything, it appears my battery life is worse and one side effect is I did not have 3g on the first reboot.
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Your 3g data drop on reboot has nothing to do with wiping your battery stats. It's a known bug in the 2.2 roms. There's also no way that it could make your battery life worse. You're probably just using more heavily today. It's hard to compare one day to the next since your usage levels vary. I know that I use my phone way more than my fiance and comparing the same phones pulled off the charger at the same time is the only way to tell if it makes a difference.
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Doesn't work for me, bump charged this morning then booted to recovery and wiped battery stats. If anything, it appears my battery life is worse and one side effect is I did not have 3g on the first reboot.
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I didn't have any problems with 3g on the first boot, and my battery life doesn't really appear to have been effected. I can go about a day between charges, and it stayed the same.... completely anecdotal though and I've only been through one charge.
you should clear stats regardless
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Your 3g data drop on reboot has nothing to do with wiping your battery stats. It's a known bug in the 2.2 roms. There's also no way that it could make your battery life worse. You're probably just using more heavily today. It's hard to compare one day to the next since your usage levels vary. I know that I use my phone way more than my fiance and comparing the same phones pulled off the charger at the same time is the only way to tell if it makes a difference.
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I know about the 3g bug but I've never encountered it, ever, until I wiped the battery stats. Maybe that's just a coincidence.
Maybe the reboot due to the loss of 3g is what drained the battery more quickly initially. My routine is the same every morning. Unplug the phone, turn on pandora, walk ten minutes to work. So I have a fairly even amount of usage for the first few hours since it sits idle after that.
Maybe I'll revise my initial thoughts to say it may not be worse for the battery but I'm definitely not seeing the improvements you are. Can I ask what ROM you're running?
First Time Bumping
I have had issues on and off since I got my Dinc. Running SkyRaider RC3 atm seems worse since I flashed it.... 2.5 seemed better. Doing a bump charge/wipe now and will post later with results. I am a fairly heavy user (I know 'heavy' is very relative) and know that a whole day (about 8am to 8pm) is pushing it for me, but I am lucky to make it till 12pm. I have actually seen it drop to 20% before 11am. During the first few hours of the day, I may check 2 emails, send no more than 3 txt and make one phone call... Seems like a big drain for that.
Weird, I wiped my battery stats today for the first time and also NEVER had a 3g problem when rebooting. Now EVERY TIME I reboot there isn't 3g untill I turn on and off airplane mode. I know the two doesn't seem to be revenant, but it seems like a lot of people are running into the same exact problem. Anyone care to input on this?
Well later on in the day I tried a restart again the the 3g turned on a few minutes after the phone booted. It still hadn't ever taken this long before, but it did come through on its own. Just a little update on my last post. I'm still interested in knowing why though
Well so far so good, but didn't use it much today. 3G bug happens to me every reboot, but comes on in a few seconds. I'm at 54% atm and bumped/cleared at 2pm est its now 10 pm
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If your phone uptime is close or same as the number of hours u have since unplugged, that means it's the usb bug preventing your phone from going to sleep.
What u need to do each time your phone is fully charged (connected to the wall charger or USB cable), u will need to unplug the cable and do a manual reboot.
Otherwise, the phone might still think it is plugged to an external power source and refuse to go to sleep even while your screen is turned off and your phone is idle.
Then u should see using Spare Parts or Battery History App, that your uptime is around 10% to 16% of your total time the phone has been unplugged.
After much googling this is the way that seems to be best when recalibrating battery. I just see so many people with poor battery life and it's likely because you've flashed new kernels and roms 50 times a week =p
Minor update! I recalibrate my phone today and realized something, this is reflected in a few new steps.
Step 1: Charge phone to 100%
Step 2: Wipe battery stats and shut phone off.
Step 3: UNPLUG PHONE and power on
Step 4: Leave phone on until it it shuts itself off. Do not plug it in.
Step 5: Turn phone back on, still unplugged. If it can't turn on that's fine. If it can turn on let it fully drain again.
Step 6: LEAVE PHONE OFF. Plug the phone in and let it FULLY charge without interruption. I let my phone hit the green light and then wait an hour before step 7. Some people suggest waiting 3 hours, some people suggest longer.
Step 7: After it's hit green and you've waiting a while unplug your phone. Do not turn it on. Wait a minute and then plug it back in. If the light stays amber for more than a few seconds (like 10 tops) leave it charging again until it's green.
Step 8: Repeat step 7 until the light turns green very soon after you plug it back in.
Step 9: Unplug and turn your phone on. Enjoy your (hopefully) extended battery.
I also suggest using "Juiceplotter" widget. It "records" your phones battery usage and uses it to predict future battery life. It won't work perfectly for the first day or so but after it gets used to your habits it's very good at predicting.
EDIT: NOW AN APP
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1024867
I haven't tried that out. Going to try to and I'll post results.
Thanks dude, I guess this will work with calibrating a new battery too? Just got the 3500 battery and was wondering exactly how to calibrate it for the first time...
Yes and I suggest recalibrating if you
a) Have a new battery of any kind
b) Have a new eris but the same battery
c) Flash a new kernel
d) Have been flashing many new roms
I find it' s a good habit to only flash roms when you're battery is at 100% to prevent your phone from getting too confused.
I read that after 5-6 full discharges of the Seidio 3500 battery that your battery life will improve... But I also heard that full discharging and then charging isn't as great for your battery... so what should I exactly do? I've already discharged and fully charged it once.
HM, you should also start a thread about "Tweaks I've found useful, and how to do them" and share your findings with everyone. I think that would be very helpful to noobs and the less-than-technical types that would like to get more out of their Eris'.
I know that's alot of work, but I'm sure lots of people would help answer questions when you're not available.
And you can add stuff as you go, wip type page Just a thought, cheers!
I'll consider that, I just feel like I don't have all that much to contribute that others haven't already lol but we'll see.
"I read that after 5-6 full discharges of the Seidio 3500 battery that your battery life will improve... But I also heard that full discharging and then charging isn't as great for your battery... so what should I exactly do? I've already discharged and fully charged it once."
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Your eris's battery will never discharge completely, it turns itself off WELL before that point. You don't have to worry about hurting your battery in this day and age, maybe 10 years ago.
If you've discharged and fully charged once it might be recalibrated. Are you still having battery problems?
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I'll consider that, I just feel like I don't have all that much to contribute that others haven't already lol but...
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No, I hear ya, but to have most of the good tweaks in one thread would a helpful thing here.
I'll edit the first post in a few minutes, having internet troubles.
Eh on second though the only things I really have are the smoothness, another 3 build.prop things (only two of which are really tested) and the battery recalibration. I'll leave it as is =p
I found this awhile back on the XDA portal, don't know if its helps cause I've never tried it myself but it might help some others here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=755903
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I found this awhile back on the XDA portal, don't know if its helps cause I've never tried it myself but it might help some others here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=755903
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This is one way to calibrate it but if you've been flashing roms/kernels just going to "100%" isn't enough because your phone doesn't know what 100% is. I'm sure that way works well when there isn't a huge problem but for some people their batteries are way out of whack.
How about having 2 battery?
Right now i have 2 battery and switch one of them when other runout of power.
Should i calibrate both of them?
Is my way to switch battery is wise?
Thx
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Don't switch between a 30% battery and a 100% battery, try to keep them around the same percentage. I can't say for sure because I don't know how the phone deals with that..
I tried this method yesterday (charged to 100%) , then last night and this morning drained the battery till dead and then charged to 1 hour after LED turned green. After I re-started my phone I was getting 1 % battery drop almost every 30 seconds, or every time I touched the phone it would drop a percentage point. :yikes:
So, I incorporated the "other" method mentioned here and turned my phone off (at 90%), plugged the charger back in and let it charge about 30 minutes after the LED turned green. I then booted the phone into recovery (while still plugged into the charger) and wiped battery stats, rebooted, and then unplugged the charger.
After this, I left it on for about 10 minutes with 3G and Sync active and only got 1% drop.
Kinda thinking this may be the ticket, for my phone at least.
Thanks for posting this up, I'll keep an eye on things and see if I can notice a difference. I was getting pretty decent battery life prior to this, but I agree that things need to be cleaned out sometimes after all these flashes.
I'm going to wipe GPS this afternoon and re-set it. Too much fun!
Yeah I did this method, wiped stats at 100% let die completely, charged all night turned it on and only had ninety percent and falling without using it.
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36 hours at 9%
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Yes, my battery life is pretty ridiculous. I haven't dropped down to 50% since I did this.
I've gotten to 66% while on a lengthy phone conversation with my Gameboy emulator in the background, and then some gameboy (fully overclocked) for another hour at least.
I suggest using "JuicePlotter" widget for monitoring battery. After a few days it becomes very accurate.
I'll check out juice.
No setcpu. Just stock 710Mhz. Conap's CFS kernel is light on the battery.
Also, I play around with the auto bright settings to use the minimal needed for various lighting environments.
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Another satisfied 'customer' .. re calibrated and did the Airplane trick .. battery life is great and pickup on reception as well! Thanks for the work!
Cheers
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I'll check out juice.
No setcpu. Just stock 710Mhz. Conap's CFS kernel is light on the battery.
Also, I play around with the auto bright settings to use the minimal needed for various lighting environments.
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I see a lot of people not using SetCPU anymore. I like using it to underclock while the phone is not being used. If the kernel is 710Mhz stock now, would I just set SetCPU to 528Mhz for normal use or would that override the kernel?
... and from what I'm reading, trigger gives great battery life. So how do I see what has been eating my battery life up? For instance, I unplugged 40 minutes ago and I am down to 91% already.
The regular option on the phone doesn't do a great job of troubleshooting this issue and just says "Display" and "Cell standby" as the relative battery use culprits. I figure, though, that this must be something I downloaded that is killing the battery. I love the ROM overall, but if this battery issue can't be resolved, I need to find something else quick. I'm a slave to a charge port.
Thanks.
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... and from what I'm reading, trigger gives great battery life. So how do I see what has been eating my battery life up? For instance, I unplugged 40 minutes ago and I am down to 91% already.
The regular option on the phone doesn't do a great job of troubleshooting this issue and just says "Display" and "Cell standby" as the relative battery use culprits. I figure, though, that this must be something I downloaded that is killing the battery. I love the ROM overall, but if this battery issue can't be resolved, I need to find something else quick. I'm a slave to a charge port.
Thanks.
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Have you tried conditioned your battery by wiping your battery stats.bin? Why didn't you flash the newest Trigger?
Yeah, you need multiple cycles for battery to be even close to accurate, and you should recalibrate.
Are you using other kernels or themes?
bionik9 said:
... and from what I'm reading, trigger gives great battery life. So how do I see what has been eating my battery life up? For instance, I unplugged 40 minutes ago and I am down to 91% already.
The regular option on the phone doesn't do a great job of troubleshooting this issue and just says "Display" and "Cell standby" as the relative battery use culprits. I figure, though, that this must be something I downloaded that is killing the battery. I love the ROM overall, but if this battery issue can't be resolved, I need to find something else quick. I'm a slave to a charge port.
Thanks.
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Let your phone die wipe battery stats in recovery mode. charge to 100% then use the battery calibration app from the market and re-calibrate the battery. I always repeat the process. Sometimes when flashing new ROMs your batterystats.bin can get a little funky so I always do this after flashing a ROM and my battery works great.
Definitely check the Kernel and Modem your running if there not the ones that came with Trigger than that could be causing your problem as well.
From what i have got from prior experiences. Using odin to go to stock as if your phone just came out of the box and then flashing removes all the old files. When i did this i went from getting almost 10 hours... now my phone gets 17 normal and if i dont use it as much as a normal day it iwll hit 24 hours no problem.
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Let your phone die wipe battery stats in recovery mode. charge to 100% then use the battery calibration app from the market and re-calibrate the battery. I always repeat the process. Sometimes when flashing new ROMs your batterystats.bin can get a little funky so I always do this after flashing a ROM and my battery works great.
Definitely check the Kernel and Modem your running if there not the ones that came with Trigger than that could be causing your problem as well.
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This post (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=806022) is saying to wipe battery stats at full charge... So what is it?
And why didn't I flash the newest version? It was when I flashed it.
What was the use in the 40 minutes after charge? I could see that if you had screen brightness high, and lots of wifi surfing or video use. I downloaded an app called 'screen filter' and it lets me lower the brightness lower than stock and I have noticed significant battery length increase since use. The stock dim options are not enough. Its still too bright and a waste of battery.
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This post (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=806022) is saying to wipe battery stats at full charge... So what is it?
And why didn't I flash the newest version? It was when I flashed it.
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Both. I wipe mine at 0 and at 100 but once you wipe make sure you fully charge without interuption and vice-versa
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madguitarist63 said:
Both. I wipe mine at 0 and at 100 but once you wipe make sure you fully charge without interuption and vice-versa
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same here, and i suggest you do the charging during night when your sleeping, so then there'll be no interruptions, like having to reboot for some odd reason etc. That can disturb the process of recalibration/conditioning.
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What was the use in the 40 minutes after charge? I could see that if you had screen brightness high, and lots of wifi surfing or video use. I downloaded an app called 'screen filter' and it lets me lower the brightness lower than stock and I have noticed significant battery length increase since use. The stock dim options are not enough. Its still too bright and a waste of battery.
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Pretty much nothing... Maybe looked at Facebook once and replied to a text?
So I drained it, wiped the battery stats, then looked at what it was doing - probably 1 minute after it was totally dead and wiped. The screen said it was at 14% already.
In less than a minute - 14%...
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So I drained it, wiped the battery stats, then looked at what it was doing - probably 1 minute after it was totally dead and wiped. The screen said it was at 14% already.
In less than a minute - 14%...
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Let it die again and wipe again. Your stats are off from the flash its normal. Just let completely die wipe charge wipe repeat. It will take a couple times normally to get back 100% right
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I used to chage my battery overnight with good results but since going to gingerbread it usually drops from 90-100% whne unplugging. was reading up and found out it's saftey feature created by Sammy.
My dad's Droid 2's battery life just took a nose dive about a week ago. He is running the rooted stock 2.2 rom, few widgets on the home screen, no task killing, and he hasn't gotten any apps in the last month (I don't think he knows how). Did his battery just die (unusable, not no capactity) or is there anything I can try?
What I would do, is tell him to get the battery to where the phone wont turn on anymore, its COMPLETELY DEAD. Plug it into the wall until its 100 percent, then drain it down to about 10 percent, then plug it into the wall again. After another complete charge, it should be good again. Its called reconditioning the battery. I do it about once a month.
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What I would do, is tell him to get the battery to where the phone wont turn on anymore, its COMPLETELY DEAD. Plug it into the wall until its 100 percent, then drain it down to about 10 percent, then plug it into the wall again. After another complete charge, it should be good again. Its called reconditioning the battery. I do it about once a month.
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I've heard a lot that Lithium-Ion batteries shouldn't be conditioned too often, because they only have so many charge cycles. I'm not expert though. (Don't let this keep you from trying what boogerburns suggested. I could work for you. I'm just stating that Lith-Ion batteries don't like to be drained a lot)
Anyways, the battery could have gotten a bad cell. You can check the battery condition by opening the dialer, and hitting *#*#4636#*#*
This will bring up a menu, and you can choose battery info (or something along those lines) If battery condition is anything but "good" then he'll probably need a bad battery.
boogerburns said:
What I would do, is tell him to get the battery to where the phone wont turn on anymore, its COMPLETELY DEAD. Plug it into the wall until its 100 percent, then drain it down to about 10 percent, then plug it into the wall again. After another complete charge, it should be good again. Its called reconditioning the battery. I do it about once a month.
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Well, now it's at a point where the battery is dead in only a few hours, so he's "conditioning" his battery once every few hours.
orkillakilla said:
I've heard a lot that Lithium-Ion batteries shouldn't be conditioned too often, because they only have so many charge cycles. I'm not expert though. (Don't let this keep you from trying what boogerburns suggested. I could work for you. I'm just stating that Lith-Ion batteries don't like to be drained a lot)
Anyways, the battery could have gotten a bad cell. You can check the battery condition by opening the dialer, and hitting *#*#4636#*#*
This will bring up a menu, and you can choose battery info (or something along those lines) If battery condition is anything but "good" then he'll probably need a bad battery.
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I did check on the battery condition somewhere, and it was "good". However, I was wondering if there's a way to check uptime/awake time on the D2. My Inc had bad battery once, and I knew it was a lemon since the uptime was far more than awake time. I'm afraid that a rogue update is sucking my dad's battery.
How can I check my uptime and awake time?
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Well, now it's at a point where the battery is dead in only a few hours, so he's "conditioning" his battery once every few hours.
I did check on the battery condition somewhere, and it was "good". However, I was wondering if there's a way to check uptime/awake time on the D2. My Inc had bad battery once, and I knew it was a lemon since the uptime was far more than awake time. I'm afraid that a rogue update is sucking my dad's battery.
How can I check my uptime and awake time?
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Use the code I posted earlier, and this time select battery history. Select "partial wake" and see if anything is keeping your phone awake. Also look at network usage and see if anything is using that too much.
Alternately, you can download an app called Spareparts from the market (free) and you can get this information more quickly.
When my phone is fully charged or has 70 or 60% remaining battery it seems to drain as normal, around 2-5% over a 10 hour or so period...
However, I've noticed once the battery decreases below 50% it drains FAST, why?
Anyone else noticed this? Test it for yourselves, monitor the TIME it takes to decrease from 100 to 50% and then from 50% to 0.
Yesterday I forgot my phone in the car whilst going to work. It was turned on however it was sitting all day in the car.
Once I returned from work I was shocked to find the phone would not turn on.
At first I thought there was a problem or some kind of fault. Once I plugged in the charger it started to charge, the battery cut and the phone automatically turned off!
I remember the phone had around 48% battery remaining, no wifi or 3g or data turned on. It was simply idling...
So the question is HOW can the battery drain from 48% to 0% over a 10 hour period without being used???
Should my battery of been ANYTHING over 50% it would only lose a few percent...
Same thing for me. (Samsung Galaxy Note N7000 - stock Android 2.3.6)
Battery slowly decreases from 100% to ~50% and then ~2x faster.
I charged the note on my computer and then switched to the charger (at ~60% of charge).
I'm no expert of battery charging etc. but just remembered my iPhone 3GS discharging faster when charged on the computer than with the charger.
If it's the same for the note, some cells could discharge faster because charged on the computer.
Can someone confirm this (or not) ?
How did you charge your phone ?
boubou2k said:
Same thing for me. (Samsung Galaxy Note N7000 - stock Android 2.3.6)
Battery slowly decreases from 100% to ~50% and then ~2x faster.
I charged the note on my computer and then switched to the charger (at ~60% of charge).
I'm no expert of battery charging etc. but just remembered my iPhone 3GS discharging faster when charged on the computer than with the charger.
If it's the same for the note, some cells could discharge faster because charged on the computer.
Can someone confirm this (or not) ?
How did you charge your phone ?
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Same thing happnd with me, and charging my phone thru electric charger..
So it seems this behaviour happens to several other Note users, why?
It's a problem knowing that having around 50% left in your battery will struggle to make it through the day with little to no use...
Have you people set the wifi to turn of while the screen is off? This is unnoticeable in the daily use, but increase the batterytime massively. The setting for this is hidden, you have to push menubutton while in the wifi-settings.
Here I thought I was only imagining things about the battery life dropping faster once it has reached 49% or less.
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Here I thought I was only imagining things about the battery life dropping faster once it has reached 49% or less.
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Haha, nice to know I'm not the ONLY one facing this bug...
I can only hope Ice Cream Sandwich solves this battery drain issue.
Hmm, i think i have the same problem, but i'm not sure. Will get back to this thread when i've investigated a little bit.
This may be a typical samsung issue.
I remember when i had the spica , the battery percentage lining in kernel was totally wrong. I think its done on purpose so you would feel like you have more battery life. 75 % of the battery drains slow. And the rest 25 super fast. Can be fixed within kernel.
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I believe its just a placebo effect. Battery usage always depends on so many factors its a pain to even consider starting looking for the issue.
Being on stock KK5 not rooted, i cannot report the same. I only see "fast battery drain" at the last 4-5%. If you feel its an issue, could you post the firmware version you are on and the battery stats graph just for reference?
Placebo or not its something I can definitely feel on my Galaxy Note.
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Placebo or not its something I can definitely feel on my Galaxy Note.
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When you get the chance, could you post the battery stats graph please? what we should see is a (lets say) 30 degrees angle and at about halfway it gets steeper.
I know its quite hard to demonstrate the issue, but if you lets say use wifi to browse the first 50% in text only sites and then visit youtube for the last 50%, it won't help the test.
A nice way to test it would be to charge it to 100%, then load up a long movie and repeat playing it till the battery is 2-3%. Then post the results.
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Have you people set the wifi to turn of while the screen is off? This is unnoticeable in the daily use, but increase the batterytime massively. The setting for this is hidden, you have to push menubutton while in the wifi-settings.
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When the Wifi is disconnected, the 3G scanning will get on. Isn't that defeating the purpose?
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Hey there!
I would suggest to load the battery 100%, plug it out, go into recovery and wipe battery stats.
I have to admit that I don´t know exactly what this workaround does, but I read about it in another forum...and it worked for me, my battery status is much more accurate now!
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When the Wifi is disconnected, the 3G scanning will get on. Isn't that defeating the purpose?
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Wifi will continue to scan for wlans near it every second or so
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I'm back. I've had the Diagnosis app running for the past hour, and i got some interesting results.
---Wiping battery stats does not help---, a full charge automatically causes battery stats reset.
I full charged mine with the electric charger after fully discharging it without turning it on.
This time i didn't notice any change in discharge speed between 100%-50% and 50%-0%.
Last time I charged the phone it was not fully discharged. Charged it from 30% to 50% then 50% to 75% on the computer, and 75% to 100% using electric charger.
It's just a supposition, but maybe doing several partial charges while using the phone makes the battery % information inaccurate (wrong battery stats?).
[Edit]In this case, wiping battery stats should show accurate battery %. [/Edit]
I had a similar problem, and I think it is to do with some incorrect scaling or measurement.
I was down to 28%, and it seemed to be draining fast even though I was not using it. I rebooted (I love how quick that is after my Arc was so slow). On restart it was at 17% ! The usage graph just did an instant drop.
I also had another occasion where it remained at 100% for 2 1/5 hours of use.
I assume some calibration issues caused the meter to read the battery wrong. I am turning off on the w/e overnight (when I do not need the alarm) to see if a slow (180 mA) charge while off will help. I may even get a decent alarm clock so I can turn the phone off at nights and charge. I spend too much time in the morning checking my email and reading news!
What is more consistent on mine is that when the battery drops to 9% or less the loss is like 1% per ~10-15% and this is with wifi/3g off, phone locked.
I'm back again. I've had some serious battery drain the last couple of days, but i noticed that Auto Sync was enabled. Once i deactivated it it got much better. Pulled the phone from the charger 9 hours ago and i'm at 90% battery left. I've sent some SMS, a few calls and that's about it, but it doesn't drain while it's in standby now, so i'm happy with it.