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Wipe battery stats made it worse

I followed directions on what I thought to be a battery fix, but it ended up making my battery life twice as bad. Actually it takes longer to charge now than it does to drain.
Anyone else have this happen?
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I did the same thing, but I've only charged once and I didn't time it. I haven't been timing any of my charges or discharges, but maybe give it some more time, that's kind of how stats work isn't it....usage over time? Good luck.

Today I started at 100% (not a powered off full charge though). After 2 hours of moderate use I was down to 50%. I have been charging for an hour via car charger and currently at 67%.
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Not to be a dink, but then it would appear that you didn't follow the instructions. As a result, YMMV I guess.
1. You will need to charge the phone to 100% (while the phone is off).
2. Leave charging cable plugged in.
3. Boot into recovery and wipe the battery stats (should be under Advanced).
4. Then boot into Android.
5. Then remove the charging cable.
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Give it another shot, and I would suggest that maybe it not be thought of as a "fix". Try using the wall charger as well. I only use the wall charger as I have a converter in my vehicles. Let us know how it goes!

Wynnded said:
Not to be a dink, but then it would appear that you didn't follow the instructions. As a result, YMMV I guess.
Give it another shot, and I would suggest that maybe it not be thought of as a "fix". Try using the wall charger as well. I only use the wall charger as I have a converter in my vehicles. Let us know how it goes!
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Those are actually the directions that I followed yesterday afternoon. I didn't notice the battery life being any different after doing that initially. At the end of the day I charged my phone via wall charger for roughly 8 hours while I slept.
I was unplugged for less than two hours and watched it drop down 50%. Wifi was off, Gps also off. I was doing some web browsing and also using the xda app. I played a game for a couple of minutes.. That was it. I really should've checked the battery usage but I didn't think of it in time.
I only charged it in the car today out of necessity because of the super quick discharge. When I'm at home I only charge with the wall charger.
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I'd venture a guess that you have something else running the background. I honestly wish that I had something more for you, but I'm going to have to fold.

Wynnded said:
I'd venture a guess that you have something else running the background. I honestly wish that I had something more for you, but I'm going to have to fold.
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I've heard others say they found facebook or twitter running in the background and that when they killed that it made a big difference in battery life. Perhaps that?

WiFi set to never turn off
I noticed this morning that WiFi had been set to never sleep, I just changed that t 15 min.
Had a full 100% charge last night did not leave on the charger, minimal use this morning down to 78%.
Let's see how the new WiFi settings works.

oldman_58 said:
I noticed this morning that WiFi had been set to never sleep, I just changed that t 15 min.
Had a full 100% charge last night did not leave on the charger, minimal use this morning down to 78%.
Let's see how the new WiFi settings works.
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that doesn't do anything unless you leave wifi on all the time, and if you do then that would be one solution to this problem.

htc_woe_is_me said:
Those are actually the directions that I followed yesterday afternoon. I didn't notice the battery life being any different after doing that initially. At the end of the day I charged my phone via wall charger for roughly 8 hours while I slept.
I was unplugged for less than two hours and watched it drop down 50%. Wifi was off, Gps also off. I was doing some web browsing and also using the xda app. I played a game for a couple of minutes.. That was it. I really should've checked the battery usage but I didn't think of it in time.
I only charged it in the car today out of necessity because of the super quick discharge. When I'm at home I only charge with the wall charger.
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I experienced the exact same issue after doing the battery thing yesterday. Tried several different kernals since then - no change: I could just about watch the battery go down. This morning I wiped and loaded SR Sense 2.5.2 and the updated stock kernal from ROM manager. We'll see how it goes...

rfarrah said:
I experienced the exact same issue after doing the battery thing yesterday. Tried several different kernals since then - no change: I could just about watch the battery go down. This morning I wiped and loaded SR Sense 2.5.2 and the updated stock kernal from ROM manager. We'll see how it goes...
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I did this and just installed 2.5.2. I then installed the Hydra kernel and wiped battery stats when I was at 100% and the unit was off/green light. The battery has gone to crap too. Any ideas?

thats weird, i did wipe battery stats (correctly) at 11 last night. i woke up at 9:30 (lol) with 93% battery left. the phone was sleeping the whole time, but i had sync turned on and had recieved several facebook updates, txts, and emails. now im losing around 10%battery every two hours or so, and i am using the phone to send txts and emails every three to five minutes. so battery life is actually much better. after the cable is unplugged, is it necessary to let the battery die fully, then charge, or can i charge it now? (its at around 30%)

so basically, i was wondering if it is necessary to run your battery fully down after doing a wipe battery stats

I don't know what to tell you guys. Since wiping stats, my phone has been up for 36 consecutive hours with an awake time of 2:40 and the battery is at 30%.
For reference I guess....

SLOflatlander said:
so basically, i was wondering if it is necessary to run your battery fully down after doing a wipe battery stats
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Great question. Anyone have any knowledge on this? I didn't let mine discharge all the way.
I do have some kind of update. I had to do a factory wipe today and since I did that my battery life has been much better.
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Has anyone else done this that can report there results?
I was about to do this but now I am skeered.

It's completely impossible for wiping your battery stats to make your battery life worse. It's a common misconception that by wiping your battery stats you somehow condition your battery. It's actually quite the opposite, because you're actually conditioning Android by wiping your stats. No matter what your battery percentage or meter says, your battery is still capable of holding a certain amount of electrical charge and your phone will not die until it's fully discharged. On the other hand it *might* make your percentage or battery meter read wrong if you either:
a. wiped your battery stats without a full bump charge (e.g. wiping your stats at 60% charge *might* make your phone think 60%=100% and as a result, you'd see huge decreases. but, you would most likely sit there with a phone showing a 1% charge for hours after it got there.)
b: didn't allow your phone to discharge fully after wiping your stats (same problem as example a, but the inverse of it)
All wiping your battery stats does is delete the file "batterystats.bin" from your /data/system folder. This file is recreated when you boot your phone after wiping them. It keeps the data on what's using your battery for when you click "battery use" in the settings menu. It's also thought to hold the stats that tell you phone what a full charge and no charge feels like and that if you fully bump charge your phone, wipe that battery stats, and then full discharge your phone (without interrupting it by switching ROMs or doing updates) that you will have a more accurate battery meter. It won't eliminate the need to bump charge your phone or make your battery life better. It will just be perceived as better since you won't get 20% drops in your reading in 30 minutes due to a badly calibrated batterystats.bin file. Also, you'll feel better because instead of looking at a 50% reading, you'll be looking at 60%.
Your battery still has the same capacity, charges to the same level, and discharges in the same amount of time. The only thing that can change those things are usage levels.

so should i redo my wipe battery stats then? when i originally did it, i ran it down to around 40%, then rebooted, then i plugged it in around 15%. would this mess it up then?

vantagejuan said:
It's completely impossible for wiping your battery stats to make your battery life worse. It's a common misconception that by wiping your battery stats you somehow condition your battery. It's actually quite the opposite, because you're actually conditioning Android by wiping your stats. No matter what your battery percentage or meter says, your battery is still capable of holding a certain amount of electrical charge and your phone will not die until it's fully discharged. On the other hand it *might* make your percentage or battery meter read wrong if you either:
a. wiped your battery stats without a full bump charge (e.g. wiping your stats at 60% charge *might* make your phone think 60%=100% and as a result, you'd see huge decreases. but, you would most likely sit there with a phone showing a 1% charge for hours after it got there.)
b: didn't allow your phone to discharge fully after wiping your stats (same problem as example a, but the inverse of it)
All wiping your battery stats does is delete the file "batterystats.bin" from your /data/system folder. This file is recreated when you boot your phone after wiping them. It keeps the data on what's using your battery for when you click "battery use" in the settings menu. It's also thought to hold the stats that tell you phone what a full charge and no charge feels like and that if you fully bump charge your phone, wipe that battery stats, and then full discharge your phone (without interrupting it by switching ROMs or doing updates) that you will have a more accurate battery meter. It won't eliminate the need to bump charge your phone or make your battery life better. It will just be perceived as better since you won't get 20% drops in your reading in 30 minutes due to a badly calibrated batterystats.bin file. Also, you'll feel better because instead of looking at a 50% reading, you'll be looking at 60%.
Your battery still has the same capacity, charges to the same level, and discharges in the same amount of time. The only thing that can change those things are usage levels.
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Do you know how we can see what's inside the actual batterystats.bin file? I tried in root explorer and cannot open in no matter how I try.

i dont care what vantagejuan says, when i tried this process...and did it correctly, my battery was down to 85% within an hour..i know this because i unplugged it when i woke up for work, and i when i clocked in, it was at 85%
it was never this bad, i tried locating the file again from an old backup, but it didnt help...im hoping that like someone else said, a couple cycles through it will get better
im using the skyraider 2.5.2 vanilla with the hydra oc/uv kernal
i had this setup before AND after trying the battery fix and im using the seidio 1750...
frustrations are back from when i first got the phone

After Battery stats wipe...

has anyone had the issue of the battery dying extremely fast after a stats wipe?
so i wiped battery stats after following the directions for royalginger...but was never able to get the rom to boot...so ive loaded up a backup...but now the battery is losing about 3-5% every 30 minutes with the phone just sitting idle on my desk
this battery normally would normally sit at 100% for at least 9 hours idling just sitting on my desk overnight or just while i work on the computer
so the details...im running IG 1.1.6 with Faux's 0.7.7b kernel...OC'ed to 1209max/368min...watchdog claims to have 49 apps running with 1% used and 95% idle...wifi and wifi calling enabled
so anyone got any ideas? is it normal to see battery drain quicker after stat wipe? should i let this drain and then follow one of the calibrate battery guides?
im at a loss here...i just want my 9 hours at 100% back

I never got 9 hours just sitting I'm trying to get that now...
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From what I gather you really aren't suppossed to do a stats wipe as of now. Since there is a bug in the phone/recovery which powers the phone on while charging there is now way to fill the battery to a true 100% so you could then wipe the stats.
If you did, chances are you wiped when your phone realyl wasnt at 100%, thus now your 100% is really 90.,.

[Q] Strange battery issues

I have CM7.1 on my MT4G. Over the past week or so, my battery has been dying after 2-3 minutes of use. I'll get a full charge, take it off the charger, use any app(Angry Birds, Gtalk, text messaging...) and the phone will shut itself off after just a couple minutes of use. When I turn it back on, it says 2%-3%. It then shuts itself off again, I plug it in and turn it on...says anything from 3% to 90%.
I've always ran the battery down and charged to full. Is my battery kaput? Is there a way to fix this?

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I have CM7.1 on my MT4G. Over the past week or so, my battery has been dying after 2-3 minutes of use. I'll get a full charge, take it off the charger, use any app(Angry Birds, Gtalk, text messaging...) and the phone will shut itself off after just a couple minutes of use. When I turn it back on, it says 2%-3%. It then shuts itself off again, I plug it in and turn it on...says anything from 3% to 90%.
I've always ran the battery down and charged to full. Is my battery kaput? Is there a way to fix this?
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Most likely.. take out the battery and inspect for leaks(might be very small discharge you might not see it clearly leak can and will damage your phone)..let it die completely, and let it stay off, charge it till the green light comes on, reboot into recovery, clear battery stats, reboot and see how long it last, also change your brightness, and other settings that might be consuming battery use..if none of these helps.. just buy another battery.

Sounds like your battery is screwed. Just buy a oem battery or get a mugen power 1650mAh
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My issues aren't quite that bad, but after I upgraded to CM7.1 from 7.0, by battery has been terrible. 15-20m of phone calls over BT takes ~20% of the battery. 15m on Angry Birds chewed up ~40% of the battery. I downloaded the latest nightly (252) and will see what happens.

Try a dif battery and see if it does the same thing. So you can rule things out
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Mines also been horrible since I went from CM 7.0 to CM 7.1. Not sure whats up but it dies in like 6 hours on standby. the battery use app shows that most of the battery usage is by "Cell Standby". So effectively, doing 'nothing' is eating up the battery?
~Phil

I guess I'm not having the problem you guys are having with battery drain. Granted I didnt use my phone that heavily, but still sitting at 60% after 10 hours. But if your battery is dead after 3 minutes something is seriously wrong, I agree and try a new battery.
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pompeiisneaks said:
Mines also been horrible since I went from CM 7.0 to CM 7.1. Not sure whats up but it dies in like 6 hours on standby. the battery use app shows that most of the battery usage is by "Cell Standby". So effectively, doing 'nothing' is eating up the battery?
~Phil
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You need to calibrate the battery after changing ROM's. Download a battery calibrator from the market. (Don't pay for one. There are like 10 free ones)
Charge the phone fully overnight. Calibrate it in the morning.
Give it a few days to gather new battery data, and then enjoy getting a full day's use from the phone.

Update
So, it's gonna have to be the battery. Recalibrated, no good. Tried a few different ROMs from CM7 nightlies to MIUI, no good.
Waiting for the new battery to get here to be sure.
Thanks for all of the help and advice!

same problem here
hello there, i got 2 mytouch 4g both running the same rom (virtuous unity 2.39) one of them has eaten 2 batteries that i bought thinking that the batteries were somehow broken or damaged... i came across this thread, read the reply recomending battery calibrator when i reached for my phone (that i left sitting on my drawer waiting for a new batt AGAIN) to give it a try and to my surprise it was still on and i has been on for 2 days 11hours and the fricking battery was at 97% before that it started to turn off-discharge so i put the thing on airplane mode and there it was till now... dunno why or what but i think it has something to do with the radio/network... hope we find a cure for this

I've been having this same issue, and I was wondering if replacing the battery fixed the issue? Thanks.

Battery seems to drain fast when 50% or less, is this normal?

When my phone is fully charged or has 70 or 60% remaining battery it seems to drain as normal, around 2-5% over a 10 hour or so period...
However, I've noticed once the battery decreases below 50% it drains FAST, why?
Anyone else noticed this? Test it for yourselves, monitor the TIME it takes to decrease from 100 to 50% and then from 50% to 0.
Yesterday I forgot my phone in the car whilst going to work. It was turned on however it was sitting all day in the car.
Once I returned from work I was shocked to find the phone would not turn on.
At first I thought there was a problem or some kind of fault. Once I plugged in the charger it started to charge, the battery cut and the phone automatically turned off!
I remember the phone had around 48% battery remaining, no wifi or 3g or data turned on. It was simply idling...
So the question is HOW can the battery drain from 48% to 0% over a 10 hour period without being used???
Should my battery of been ANYTHING over 50% it would only lose a few percent...

Same thing for me. (Samsung Galaxy Note N7000 - stock Android 2.3.6)
Battery slowly decreases from 100% to ~50% and then ~2x faster.
I charged the note on my computer and then switched to the charger (at ~60% of charge).
I'm no expert of battery charging etc. but just remembered my iPhone 3GS discharging faster when charged on the computer than with the charger.
If it's the same for the note, some cells could discharge faster because charged on the computer.
Can someone confirm this (or not) ?
How did you charge your phone ?

boubou2k said:
Same thing for me. (Samsung Galaxy Note N7000 - stock Android 2.3.6)
Battery slowly decreases from 100% to ~50% and then ~2x faster.
I charged the note on my computer and then switched to the charger (at ~60% of charge).
I'm no expert of battery charging etc. but just remembered my iPhone 3GS discharging faster when charged on the computer than with the charger.
If it's the same for the note, some cells could discharge faster because charged on the computer.
Can someone confirm this (or not) ?
How did you charge your phone ?
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Same thing happnd with me, and charging my phone thru electric charger..

So it seems this behaviour happens to several other Note users, why?
It's a problem knowing that having around 50% left in your battery will struggle to make it through the day with little to no use...

Have you people set the wifi to turn of while the screen is off? This is unnoticeable in the daily use, but increase the batterytime massively. The setting for this is hidden, you have to push menubutton while in the wifi-settings.

Here I thought I was only imagining things about the battery life dropping faster once it has reached 49% or less.

EarlZ said:
Here I thought I was only imagining things about the battery life dropping faster once it has reached 49% or less.
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Haha, nice to know I'm not the ONLY one facing this bug...
I can only hope Ice Cream Sandwich solves this battery drain issue.

Hmm, i think i have the same problem, but i'm not sure. Will get back to this thread when i've investigated a little bit.

This may be a typical samsung issue.
I remember when i had the spica , the battery percentage lining in kernel was totally wrong. I think its done on purpose so you would feel like you have more battery life. 75 % of the battery drains slow. And the rest 25 super fast. Can be fixed within kernel.
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I believe its just a placebo effect. Battery usage always depends on so many factors its a pain to even consider starting looking for the issue.
Being on stock KK5 not rooted, i cannot report the same. I only see "fast battery drain" at the last 4-5%. If you feel its an issue, could you post the firmware version you are on and the battery stats graph just for reference?

Placebo or not its something I can definitely feel on my Galaxy Note.

EarlZ said:
Placebo or not its something I can definitely feel on my Galaxy Note.
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When you get the chance, could you post the battery stats graph please? what we should see is a (lets say) 30 degrees angle and at about halfway it gets steeper.
I know its quite hard to demonstrate the issue, but if you lets say use wifi to browse the first 50% in text only sites and then visit youtube for the last 50%, it won't help the test.
A nice way to test it would be to charge it to 100%, then load up a long movie and repeat playing it till the battery is 2-3%. Then post the results.

roxxy said:
Have you people set the wifi to turn of while the screen is off? This is unnoticeable in the daily use, but increase the batterytime massively. The setting for this is hidden, you have to push menubutton while in the wifi-settings.
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When the Wifi is disconnected, the 3G scanning will get on. Isn't that defeating the purpose?
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Hey there!
I would suggest to load the battery 100%, plug it out, go into recovery and wipe battery stats.
I have to admit that I don´t know exactly what this workaround does, but I read about it in another forum...and it worked for me, my battery status is much more accurate now!

JulyDerek said:
When the Wifi is disconnected, the 3G scanning will get on. Isn't that defeating the purpose?
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Wifi will continue to scan for wlans near it every second or so
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I'm back. I've had the Diagnosis app running for the past hour, and i got some interesting results.

---Wiping battery stats does not help---, a full charge automatically causes battery stats reset.
I full charged mine with the electric charger after fully discharging it without turning it on.
This time i didn't notice any change in discharge speed between 100%-50% and 50%-0%.
Last time I charged the phone it was not fully discharged. Charged it from 30% to 50% then 50% to 75% on the computer, and 75% to 100% using electric charger.
It's just a supposition, but maybe doing several partial charges while using the phone makes the battery % information inaccurate (wrong battery stats?).
[Edit]In this case, wiping battery stats should show accurate battery %. [/Edit]

I had a similar problem, and I think it is to do with some incorrect scaling or measurement.
I was down to 28%, and it seemed to be draining fast even though I was not using it. I rebooted (I love how quick that is after my Arc was so slow). On restart it was at 17% ! The usage graph just did an instant drop.
I also had another occasion where it remained at 100% for 2 1/5 hours of use.
I assume some calibration issues caused the meter to read the battery wrong. I am turning off on the w/e overnight (when I do not need the alarm) to see if a slow (180 mA) charge while off will help. I may even get a decent alarm clock so I can turn the phone off at nights and charge. I spend too much time in the morning checking my email and reading news!

What is more consistent on mine is that when the battery drops to 9% or less the loss is like 1% per ~10-15% and this is with wifi/3g off, phone locked.

I'm back again. I've had some serious battery drain the last couple of days, but i noticed that Auto Sync was enabled. Once i deactivated it it got much better. Pulled the phone from the charger 9 hours ago and i'm at 90% battery left. I've sent some SMS, a few calls and that's about it, but it doesn't drain while it's in standby now, so i'm happy with it.

Increased Battery Life

I am running CM10.1.3.1 with the nitest 7/20/2013 kernel and FC19 modem, on an Onite 1900 mAH battery.
I used many of the tips in this post;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2357417
10 hours overnight with minimal usage, my battery now drops to 78% and shows 4 days 15 hours of similar usage before the battery will be drained fully. I've never, since buying the phone new, had better than 26 hours of stand-by time show up with a fully charged battery. I'm now showing 5 days.
Of course, screen usage is still the big impact, so actually using the phone drains it just as fast, but it is nice to know that, if I am not using it, I don't have to keep it plugged in all the time now.

I could be completely wrong about this but...
Have you been rebooting your phone? From what I've read rebooting the phone can throw off the battery stats. Basically the battery storage and usage is all the same its just the reporting thats off. I'm guessing battery stats get readjusted over time if the phone remains powered on.