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I decided to do an experiment this morning. My fiance and I both have Dincs. We're both running SkyRaider 2.0.1. We both have the 1500mah touch pro 2 battery. I bump charged both phones this morning and both went off the charger at 8:30. I cleared my battery stats in clockwork immediately after the bump charge. I didn't clear her battery stats. She had been getting better battery life largely because I use my phone a lot more than she does. That changed today.
The numbers don't lie...
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my phone - battery bump charged and battery stats wiped:
8/3 - off charger: 8:30am
Stats @ 10AM
Uptime: 1.5 hours
Awake: 1.25 hours
% left: 94%
Stats @ 12:30PM
Uptime: 4 hours
Awake: 3.75 hours
% left: 85%
Stats @ 3:45PM
Uptime: 7.25 hours
Awake: 7 hours
% left: 68%
Stats @ 12:30AM
Uptime: 16 hours
Awake: 10.5 hours
% left: 24%
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Fiance's Phone - Bump Charged, battery stats not wiped:
8/3 - off charger: 8:30am
Stats @ 12:30PM
Uptime: 4 hours
Awake: 1.25 hours
% left: 68%
Stats @ 12:30AM
Uptime: 16 hours
Awake: 7 hours
% left: 12%
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I've come to the conclusion that wiping your battery stats is a very important thing to do and will give you hours more battery life. I'm currently losing a little over 4% per hour, which should give me 23-25 hours of battery life. This is a very significant improvement over the 14-16 hours that she will likely get.
I do find it really odd however that my Uptime and Awake Time are so close. This would normally lead me to believe that some program isn't letting my phone go to sleep, but my battery life indicates that isn't happening.
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Day 2: Didn't get rid of need to bump charge. First bump charge actually seemed to take a little longer this morning (over 30 minutes). Second bump was 6 minutes. Had to scrap today since my fiance's phone didn't charge last night. It wasn't plugged into the wall. Doh!
i might give this a try. i'll be interested to see if others try it and see what their results are.
Would I have to clear battery stats every day in order to achieve this additional battery life, or is it only a semi-regular thing?
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How do you wipe them in clockwork?
Question- did you fully charge, wipe, then drain battery down /all the way/ before re-charging (e.g. phone shuts itself down) or did you charge, wipe, and then let it drain a bit and then just plug it back in the charger at night without letting it shut itself down from lack of battery?
Thanks.
I just tried this earlier as well. I bump charged (charged with power off until led went green, booted all the way up, and then powered off, repeated this cycle like 3 times) and then wiped battery stats in clockworkmod (it's in advanced).
Too soon to see if it makes a difference, and I really didn't have any problems but figured longer is better right
Edit: I now plan to let the phone run until it shuts its self off
partizan81 said:
Would I have to clear battery stats every day in order to achieve this additional battery life, or is it only a semi-regular thing?
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I doubt it, but don't know for sure yet. I'm tempted to charge it back up now to see if there is a difference in length of time spent bump charging. I hope it shortens it. I won't be clearing either of our stats tomorrow to see if the battery gains comparable to hers stick.
craigmack said:
How do you wipe them in clockwork?
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reboot into clockwork, scroll to advanced (i believe), then wipe battery stats
Lcsglvr said:
Question- did you fully charge, wipe, then drain battery down /all the way/ before re-charging (e.g. phone shuts itself down) or did you charge, wipe, and then let it drain a bit and then just plug it back in the charger at night without letting it shut itself down from lack of battery?
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I let it drain itself all the way, then charged it overnight. woke up. bump charged for 1 cycle then cleared the stats.
Doesn't work for me, bump charged this morning then booted to recovery and wiped battery stats. If anything, it appears my battery life is worse and one side effect is I did not have 3g on the first reboot.
s197 said:
Doesn't work for me, bump charged this morning then booted to recovery and wiped battery stats. If anything, it appears my battery life is worse and one side effect is I did not have 3g on the first reboot.
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Your 3g data drop on reboot has nothing to do with wiping your battery stats. It's a known bug in the 2.2 roms. There's also no way that it could make your battery life worse. You're probably just using more heavily today. It's hard to compare one day to the next since your usage levels vary. I know that I use my phone way more than my fiance and comparing the same phones pulled off the charger at the same time is the only way to tell if it makes a difference.
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Doesn't work for me, bump charged this morning then booted to recovery and wiped battery stats. If anything, it appears my battery life is worse and one side effect is I did not have 3g on the first reboot.
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I didn't have any problems with 3g on the first boot, and my battery life doesn't really appear to have been effected. I can go about a day between charges, and it stayed the same.... completely anecdotal though and I've only been through one charge.
you should clear stats regardless
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Your 3g data drop on reboot has nothing to do with wiping your battery stats. It's a known bug in the 2.2 roms. There's also no way that it could make your battery life worse. You're probably just using more heavily today. It's hard to compare one day to the next since your usage levels vary. I know that I use my phone way more than my fiance and comparing the same phones pulled off the charger at the same time is the only way to tell if it makes a difference.
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I know about the 3g bug but I've never encountered it, ever, until I wiped the battery stats. Maybe that's just a coincidence.
Maybe the reboot due to the loss of 3g is what drained the battery more quickly initially. My routine is the same every morning. Unplug the phone, turn on pandora, walk ten minutes to work. So I have a fairly even amount of usage for the first few hours since it sits idle after that.
Maybe I'll revise my initial thoughts to say it may not be worse for the battery but I'm definitely not seeing the improvements you are. Can I ask what ROM you're running?
First Time Bumping
I have had issues on and off since I got my Dinc. Running SkyRaider RC3 atm seems worse since I flashed it.... 2.5 seemed better. Doing a bump charge/wipe now and will post later with results. I am a fairly heavy user (I know 'heavy' is very relative) and know that a whole day (about 8am to 8pm) is pushing it for me, but I am lucky to make it till 12pm. I have actually seen it drop to 20% before 11am. During the first few hours of the day, I may check 2 emails, send no more than 3 txt and make one phone call... Seems like a big drain for that.
Weird, I wiped my battery stats today for the first time and also NEVER had a 3g problem when rebooting. Now EVERY TIME I reboot there isn't 3g untill I turn on and off airplane mode. I know the two doesn't seem to be revenant, but it seems like a lot of people are running into the same exact problem. Anyone care to input on this?
Well later on in the day I tried a restart again the the 3g turned on a few minutes after the phone booted. It still hadn't ever taken this long before, but it did come through on its own. Just a little update on my last post. I'm still interested in knowing why though
Well so far so good, but didn't use it much today. 3G bug happens to me every reboot, but comes on in a few seconds. I'm at 54% atm and bumped/cleared at 2pm est its now 10 pm
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If your phone uptime is close or same as the number of hours u have since unplugged, that means it's the usb bug preventing your phone from going to sleep.
What u need to do each time your phone is fully charged (connected to the wall charger or USB cable), u will need to unplug the cable and do a manual reboot.
Otherwise, the phone might still think it is plugged to an external power source and refuse to go to sleep even while your screen is turned off and your phone is idle.
Then u should see using Spare Parts or Battery History App, that your uptime is around 10% to 16% of your total time the phone has been unplugged.
battery drain pretty fast when using WIFI than using carrier's 3G network
Is it normal or something wrong?
currently using CM 6.0.0 DS
The battery draining quicker on Wifi is normal, but it can get excessive. Fully charge your phone with it on, turn off the phone and let it charge 8 hours, boot into recovery and wipe battery stats, use the phone as normal until it turns itself off (battery dies), charge 8 hours, and finally use it as normal. Should help extend your battery life.
ok. thanks for the idea.
I did do a full charge and let it used up until it cant reboot, and charge again when i got the new battery like 5 times. I think it would help also.
Before this, I thought cell's signal sending to the tower would use more power since it can send further.
Btw, is there a guide to see how to wide the battery stats? going to do search though.
I just check out some thread about battery stats.
My battery goes to around 2% at 3700, 100% around 4200.
What does a normal htc magic battery would show under a near perfect condition?
I saw some say 3000, or 3200 etc, so maybe my 3700 is too high at 2%?
What I recommended will extend your battery life. Not sure I'm following what your saying in the last post.
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i have done those steps also some time ago... but battery really drains very fast on wifi... i think it must be something about the driver used... because HTC roms don't drain so fast in wifi
DonJuan692006,
Those number are the battery's internal energy level, in mv
4200 mv is usually normal maximum for LI battery at 100%
But i see some having alot of different value for 0% mv value, mine stays around 3700+ mv, so it seems somewhat higher than normal, maybe that's why i have less battery.
So trying to find out what is the normal 0% mv value for most good battery.
blizard80,
yes, i found out the CM rom drain alot faster than the stock htc magic rom when running wifi, so it is Normal to have wifi drain faster than cell's normal data draining but not so normal to drain this faster so significantly.
DonJuan692006:
After charging it for 8 hours when it is turned off, and boot into recovery and dis connect the power cable and turn it on and use it till it dies?
After the phone dies because of no battery, i charge it for 8 hours without turning it on or while it is on?
thanks.
After it dies I don't think it will really matter if its on or.not while charging, but I think the best result would be obtained from charging it fully while on and then turning it off and charging for 8 hours again.
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Like most of my fellow XDAers, I've been struggling with battery management issues. What apps to install, CPU hogs and all that jazz.
However, while I've been very pleased with the battery life I was getting from my U8800, I saw several guys complaining of horrible battery performance. I thought that they were just 'doing it wrong'...
I now wonder...
Since November I started noticing strange battery issues. Very fast draining, misleading battery readouts... I wiped my device, flashed it with pretty much all roms (custom and official) available but my battery kept screwing me. And its been worse as time gone by! I now hardly get 8 hours with at most 1 hour of usage.
I'm now posting this after calibrating my battery 4 times the day before and the first time I used our today my battery life went from 100% to 82% in less than 5 minutes! CPU spy reports 85% of deep sleep. Better battery stats has hardly anything logged. I already ordered a new battery but if this keeps going on...
Thoughts?
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Why did you calibrate 4 times? How did you calibrate it?
Charge it to full, calibrate battery using app/recovery/deleting batterystats.bin, leave it to totally discharge, fully charge. It is not calibrated until you go through a couple of charge/discharge cycles.
When my phone is fully charged or has 70 or 60% remaining battery it seems to drain as normal, around 2-5% over a 10 hour or so period...
However, I've noticed once the battery decreases below 50% it drains FAST, why?
Anyone else noticed this? Test it for yourselves, monitor the TIME it takes to decrease from 100 to 50% and then from 50% to 0.
Yesterday I forgot my phone in the car whilst going to work. It was turned on however it was sitting all day in the car.
Once I returned from work I was shocked to find the phone would not turn on.
At first I thought there was a problem or some kind of fault. Once I plugged in the charger it started to charge, the battery cut and the phone automatically turned off!
I remember the phone had around 48% battery remaining, no wifi or 3g or data turned on. It was simply idling...
So the question is HOW can the battery drain from 48% to 0% over a 10 hour period without being used???
Should my battery of been ANYTHING over 50% it would only lose a few percent...
Same thing for me. (Samsung Galaxy Note N7000 - stock Android 2.3.6)
Battery slowly decreases from 100% to ~50% and then ~2x faster.
I charged the note on my computer and then switched to the charger (at ~60% of charge).
I'm no expert of battery charging etc. but just remembered my iPhone 3GS discharging faster when charged on the computer than with the charger.
If it's the same for the note, some cells could discharge faster because charged on the computer.
Can someone confirm this (or not) ?
How did you charge your phone ?
boubou2k said:
Same thing for me. (Samsung Galaxy Note N7000 - stock Android 2.3.6)
Battery slowly decreases from 100% to ~50% and then ~2x faster.
I charged the note on my computer and then switched to the charger (at ~60% of charge).
I'm no expert of battery charging etc. but just remembered my iPhone 3GS discharging faster when charged on the computer than with the charger.
If it's the same for the note, some cells could discharge faster because charged on the computer.
Can someone confirm this (or not) ?
How did you charge your phone ?
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Same thing happnd with me, and charging my phone thru electric charger..
So it seems this behaviour happens to several other Note users, why?
It's a problem knowing that having around 50% left in your battery will struggle to make it through the day with little to no use...
Have you people set the wifi to turn of while the screen is off? This is unnoticeable in the daily use, but increase the batterytime massively. The setting for this is hidden, you have to push menubutton while in the wifi-settings.
Here I thought I was only imagining things about the battery life dropping faster once it has reached 49% or less.
EarlZ said:
Here I thought I was only imagining things about the battery life dropping faster once it has reached 49% or less.
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Haha, nice to know I'm not the ONLY one facing this bug...
I can only hope Ice Cream Sandwich solves this battery drain issue.
Hmm, i think i have the same problem, but i'm not sure. Will get back to this thread when i've investigated a little bit.
This may be a typical samsung issue.
I remember when i had the spica , the battery percentage lining in kernel was totally wrong. I think its done on purpose so you would feel like you have more battery life. 75 % of the battery drains slow. And the rest 25 super fast. Can be fixed within kernel.
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I believe its just a placebo effect. Battery usage always depends on so many factors its a pain to even consider starting looking for the issue.
Being on stock KK5 not rooted, i cannot report the same. I only see "fast battery drain" at the last 4-5%. If you feel its an issue, could you post the firmware version you are on and the battery stats graph just for reference?
Placebo or not its something I can definitely feel on my Galaxy Note.
EarlZ said:
Placebo or not its something I can definitely feel on my Galaxy Note.
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When you get the chance, could you post the battery stats graph please? what we should see is a (lets say) 30 degrees angle and at about halfway it gets steeper.
I know its quite hard to demonstrate the issue, but if you lets say use wifi to browse the first 50% in text only sites and then visit youtube for the last 50%, it won't help the test.
A nice way to test it would be to charge it to 100%, then load up a long movie and repeat playing it till the battery is 2-3%. Then post the results.
roxxy said:
Have you people set the wifi to turn of while the screen is off? This is unnoticeable in the daily use, but increase the batterytime massively. The setting for this is hidden, you have to push menubutton while in the wifi-settings.
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When the Wifi is disconnected, the 3G scanning will get on. Isn't that defeating the purpose?
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Hey there!
I would suggest to load the battery 100%, plug it out, go into recovery and wipe battery stats.
I have to admit that I don´t know exactly what this workaround does, but I read about it in another forum...and it worked for me, my battery status is much more accurate now!
JulyDerek said:
When the Wifi is disconnected, the 3G scanning will get on. Isn't that defeating the purpose?
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Wifi will continue to scan for wlans near it every second or so
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I'm back. I've had the Diagnosis app running for the past hour, and i got some interesting results.
---Wiping battery stats does not help---, a full charge automatically causes battery stats reset.
I full charged mine with the electric charger after fully discharging it without turning it on.
This time i didn't notice any change in discharge speed between 100%-50% and 50%-0%.
Last time I charged the phone it was not fully discharged. Charged it from 30% to 50% then 50% to 75% on the computer, and 75% to 100% using electric charger.
It's just a supposition, but maybe doing several partial charges while using the phone makes the battery % information inaccurate (wrong battery stats?).
[Edit]In this case, wiping battery stats should show accurate battery %. [/Edit]
I had a similar problem, and I think it is to do with some incorrect scaling or measurement.
I was down to 28%, and it seemed to be draining fast even though I was not using it. I rebooted (I love how quick that is after my Arc was so slow). On restart it was at 17% ! The usage graph just did an instant drop.
I also had another occasion where it remained at 100% for 2 1/5 hours of use.
I assume some calibration issues caused the meter to read the battery wrong. I am turning off on the w/e overnight (when I do not need the alarm) to see if a slow (180 mA) charge while off will help. I may even get a decent alarm clock so I can turn the phone off at nights and charge. I spend too much time in the morning checking my email and reading news!
What is more consistent on mine is that when the battery drops to 9% or less the loss is like 1% per ~10-15% and this is with wifi/3g off, phone locked.
I'm back again. I've had some serious battery drain the last couple of days, but i noticed that Auto Sync was enabled. Once i deactivated it it got much better. Pulled the phone from the charger 9 hours ago and i'm at 90% battery left. I've sent some SMS, a few calls and that's about it, but it doesn't drain while it's in standby now, so i'm happy with it.
Hello my battery is only getting around 6.3 hrs of screen time total. I have read many threads about the battery time and a lot of ppl are getting 8-9 hrs of screen time. I have several questions.
1) I have only charged it 2x, I read that the battery life will get better after a couple of more charges. Is that true?
2) Ppl say it will get better after a couple of cycles, do they mean letting the battery run to 0% and then charge it all the way back to 100%?
3) I also read that I shouldn't charge to 100% every time , is this true?
4) Should I leave it on when charging?
My brightness is only set to 40%. My screen uses 65% android sys uses 9% and chrome uses 8% of the battery
Any advice to increase battery life is appreciated.
Sorry if the questions are repetitive, there are a lot of contradictory info, it is getting confusing.
Get a battery monitoring app & find out what's using most of the power. I use GSam Battery Monitor, and Better Battery Stats if your rooted. It will break everything down for you. The "app sucker" section within it tells you what % of power each app is using. Turn them off! Maps is usually always reporting your location, so turn off location service.
Your device has a Lithium-ion battery so no need to cycle it. Google: li-ion maintenance. I plug my devices in every time I see a micro-usb! Cycling refers to older ni-cad batteries.
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