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What I feel about Arc after 2 weeks use

I am coming from almost 1 year use of X10a and even tried Galaxy SII after a week with Arc and sold SII mainly because I hated AMOLED colors and Samsung design and UI.
When I first got Misty Silver Arc (flashed LT15a) into my hands I was excited as the phone looked simply stunning. Felt great in hand.
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Now, after two weeks of use I have very mixed feeling and I am already trying to look for what is out there that looks good and performs like GSII. Atrix? Not sure!!
Pros:
1. Screen
2. Looks (design) & Feel.
3. Gingerbread
4. SE UI
5. Camera
Cons:
1. Phone starts to lag once you install some widgets, and install basic apps. I am almost seeing very minimal gain from my X10 in performance once I install my standard apps/widgets.
2. Camera button is a joke. It's almost impossible to use without shaking the phone too much.
3. Too long. They could have tried and eliminated all that black area that has Sony Ericsson Logo.
4. The battery cover starts to feel squeaky in the middle area towards the side that has volume rockers. I had to put small tape inside to stop that feeling.
I might have to root and remove some pre-installed crap and see how the phone performs. Else, I am seriously thinking to sell the phone and maybe wait for something or go back to SGII and live with it's ugliness and fake colors on AMOLED. I just will have to wait for a good ROM for it as I couldn't stand the Samsung interface. It makes Android feel like their feature phone. I am also going to try and play with Atrix and compared it to arc. If the performance on Atrix is good, I might just get it as the phone feels solid and it at least looks better than GSII.
It amazes me how SE sc*$#s up with every phone in someway and I still end up owning them. With X10 it's the OS version and with Arc, lousy hardware specs. They should at least have provided more memory. I have a feeling they never tested Arc by installing any apps and widgets.
Apps/widgets I have installed - Go Contacts, Go Contacts Themes, Go SMS Pro, Go SMS Themes, Beautiful Widgets, Beautiful Widgets Animation, beautiful widgets themes, Widgetsoid, life.contacts, Amazon MP3, Amazon Appstore, Angry Birds, Angry Birds Rio, Fruit Ninja, Swype, Astro, ESPNCricInfo, Business Calendar, Just Pictures, Yahoo Mail, Tripit, Opera Mini, Twitter, xda premium, and Yelp.
What I mean by Laggy?
I don't mean it's so slow to get annoying. It only felt laggy compared to what I experienced with GSII. It's not annoying but at times I find it annoying when the dialer takes almost couple of seconds to load or my SMS shows blank blue screen for almost 4-6 seconds. At that time, if I restart my phone it performs better. I stopped using Live wallpapers hoping it will help phone perform better. I remember the performance was not like this when i played with the stock ROM. I am not sure if playing with whatsapp screw'd up something. I will try to reflash and see how it behaves.
Update1: I re-flashed my Arc and it now works blazing fast. In the next few weeks I will try to find if any particular app I used caused the issue or it's just a limitation with Arc if you have several apps/widgets installed with over 300 contacts and lost of them with high quality photo image linked through SE UI instead of picking low quality one from GMail.
Update2: I installed most of my commonly used apps and I see no lag now. I suspect having three weather apps might have some cause for the lag before as they were alway setup to get weather updated. I used Beautiful Weather, Go Weather, and WeatherBug Elite. I had Beautiful weather setup to have animation on unlock too. Or it just could be one of the other apps which I am used to download everyday from amazon appstore.

I'm not sure I know what you mean by "laggy"? I've got 8 or 9 widgets on my homescreen, phone still runs like it did out of the box. It's incredibly fast, I've had uptimes longer than you've owned the phone, and most of all, it works very well as a phone. The phone has 512MB of RAM, which means it runs smoothly and there's rarely any lag unless you're doing too many things in the background.
As for the battery door problem, my only comment is "I don't know what you're talking about." Camera button? Works fine for me, and I have a silicone shell over the button. If you're going to complain about a button, I'd recommend the awful power button. It's my biggest complaint about the phone.

Definitely agree on the creaky battery cover. Really detracts from the overall feel of the phone.
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iead1 said:
I'm not sure I know what you mean by "laggy"?
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I updated my initial post to explain what I mean by laggy.
I don't mean it's so slow to get annoying. It only felt laggy compared to what I experienced with GSII. At times, I find it gets annoying when the dialer takes almost couple of seconds to load or SMS shows blank blue screen for almost 4-6 seconds. At that time, if I restart my phone it performs better. I stopped using Live wallpapers hoping it will help phone perform better. I remember the performance was not like this when i played with the stock ROM. I am not sure if playing with whatsapp screw'd up something. I will try to reflash and see how it behaves.

I happen to own a LG Optimus 2x as well, if you want a phone fast like hell, just grab that one. Still I using my arc more as I love the design and colours better than on the LG.
After I deleted all the crap I don't use using titanium backup my Arc doesn't feel that laggy anymore, try that too....but still...the LG is faster...
Further on I do think both are great phones, but I wish there were more devs in the Arc section. At the LG section there are very good roms available. I know I shouldn't complain when I am unable to make something myself, but I just miss some nice roms I can try on my Arc.
Before getting another phone, just search here on the forum for complaints, I think in every section at XDA on every phone you will find some cons. It's just to decide which con is important for you...

iead1 said:
If you're going to complain about a button, I'd recommend the awful power button. It's my biggest complaint about the phone.
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I hate the small power button as well. But since I use Widgetsoid and there is Lock Screen option, I never had to use the button (except to reboot, which I seldom do).

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I hate the small power button as well. But since I use Widgetsoid and there is Lock Screen option, I never had to use the button (except to reboot, which I seldom do).
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Agreed.
Power button and camera button could have been better.
You can use the same widget to reboot as well if you are rooted.
I use the screenoff software which gives you some kind of effects when switching off

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You can use the same widget to reboot as well if you are rooted.
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I am aware of that but I am afraid that I may accidentally hit the option, causing my phone to reboot when I had no intention to do so.

I have 9 screens & 21 widgets & phone is as fast as it was out of box.. Rooted & removed crap apps though I can't compare it with SGS2 as i don't own it, but SGS2 ca be faster (due to memory & dua core) but Arc is not laggy

There is a "what can we remove" thread here. It's a good start but there can also be other reasons for laggyness.
Removing programs you don't use and clear unused programs data and killing non-active tasks can speedup you phone, sometimes

I haven't had such "lag" issues.
Maybe you removed something that affected phone aswell.

I come from an iphone 4 and sometimes i found the phone a bit laggy but overall it's a great phone and i love the screen so much ! And i'm glad to finally haver something that note everybody have.

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And i'm glad to finally haver something that note everybody have.
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Yeah, this is something good to brag about! Plus, there isnt any phone that captures better pictures than arc!
Sent from my LT15i using XDA Premium App

Sorry double post

I just re-flashed the stock ROM and the phone flies. I am going to first root it and remove lot of crap I don't need and then install one app a day to see which one made things 'a little' laggy.
I also suspect if having high quality images for contacts might be the culprit. I remember I had that problem with X10. If SE is scaling down the resolution when it crops, that shouldn't be a problem.

Could it be possible that you are using a slow SD card? I use a class 6 16GB and dont have too much of a lag.

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Could it be possible that you are using a slow SD card? I use a class 6 16GB and dont have too much of a lag.
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I am using whatever came with Arc. I didn't check the class but it is 16GB card.

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I am using whatever came with Arc. I didn't check the class but it is 16GB card.
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Class 2, the lowest

By the way how can we know the class we had of mscard ?
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rumy said:
Could it be possible that you are using a slow SD card? I use a class 6 16GB and dont have too much of a lag.
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Very unlikely to be the cause. Class of an SD card really only affects how fast you can write to it, read speeds are generally extremely fast regardless of class.

VERY happy with new Dell Streak - Very smooth & fast... :)

I bought a Dell Streak last month. It was a late batch and came with the latest Android 2.2.2
Last year I also had a Dell Streak when it was first released but it had the older Android 1.6 Donut and was slow and laggy.
I sold it several months after and bought an HTC Desire followed by the Desire HD.
I recently saw advertised the Dell Streak having the latest 2.2.2 android.
I thought I'd give it a try since it came with the newer version of Android and also missed the bigger screen!
The HTC Desire HD was then sold. Though the Desire HD had far more ram and was a later phone, it did lag slightly in the menu's and even scrolling through sms messages and names/numbers it would lag, even after updating to the latest 2.3 android....
Surprisingly my new Dell streak which is running a factory stock 2.2.2 without ANY custom roms is a LOT faster than my previous DESIRE HD?
I couldn't believe how much faster 2.2.2 is compared with the older 1.6 donut, at LEAST 60% or more faster...
Amazing how the Streak has HALF the ram of the Desire HD only runs far quicker & smoother...
Going through the menu is 100% smooth, scrolling through messages and phone book is instant and smooth, I'm very happy.
Even listening to music/watching movies gives out loud & excellent crystal clear sound....
Reason I opened this forum is because some people think the Streak is old, **** & slow as it originally was due to the 1.6 donut.
Most people do not realise the boost in performance Android 2.2.2 has given to the device, making more use of the cpu & ram.
What do you guys/girls have to say about the improvements from 1.6 to 2.2.2?

I would love it even more if Dell gives us 2.3.4, with Google Video Chat

When I got mine in October, it came with 1.6, and I waited..."2.2 is just around the corner". In December, I used the QDL tool to get it to one version, then threw the 2.2 version, then when 2.2.2 came out put that on. Was working great until the last update of Lancher Pro, and it started FC, laggy etc, blew that out and put Go launcher on it. It's blazing fast now.

Hi OP:
As you said your streak is relatively new, could you tell us what rom is installed on it? (You're still on stock correct?)
It should be in Settings -> about phone and look something like:
GAUSB1A134700
If it's not could you post what version it is and what build number?

TheManii said:
Hi OP:
As you said your streak is relatively new, could you tell us what rom is installed on it? (You're still on stock correct?)
It should be in Settings -> about phone and look something like:
GAUSB1A134700
If it's not could you post what version it is and what build number?
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Sure.
Baseband version - GAUSB1A134700-US
VERSION - 2.2.2
Build Number - 15274
All I know is that it's a US import and yes, it's all stock.

p51d007 said:
When I got mine in October, it came with 1.6, and I waited..."2.2 is just around the corner". In December, I used the QDL tool to get it to one version, then threw the 2.2 version, then when 2.2.2 came out put that on. Was working great until the last update of Lancher Pro, and it started FC, laggy etc, blew that out and put Go launcher on it. It's blazing fast now.
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For me it was never laggy, was just ok. However, after installing and using ADW Launcher Pro, it's made it blazingly fast, smooth & responsive for EVERYTHING.
I'm shocked it's far quicker & smoother than my previous HTC Desire HD having more ram...
My HTC Desire HD used to lag through the phone book, numbers and even scrolling through text messages used to be laggy...
I'm very happy with my streak and would not sell it for the world.
Also, EVERYONE who see's it go crazy, their eyes pop out.
People wanna know what it is, where I bought it, how much, etc...
It get's a lot of attention...
I love the looks on peoples faces when I take it out my pocket in the tube...

Oh yeah, and ONE more thing I forgot to mention.
It's the quality screen! Some reviews slag it off saying the screen is dim, bad colours/contrast, viewing angles, etc....
I agree it may not be that great in direct sunlight or viewing angles...
However, under normal viewing, or in dim/dark light I would say the Streak has one of the BEST & SHARPEST screens I have even seen on a phone...
Even better and sharper than my HTC Desire HD...
I will compare the screen later on this evening to my friends Samsung Galaxy...
Apart from the Galaxy having better viewing angles, I'm sure the Streak will look similar side by side with regards to screen quality....
Remember guys, Dell make screens, both LCD & LED screens and they make one of the best screens you can buy.
Therefore they will not make a **** screen for a phone...
Remember, my screen brightness is set permanently to 70% and it's crazy bight...
Here are some pics of how my streak looks:
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Some People can't be bothered to do updates...
I got my Streak new with 1.6 which saw 5min runtime on my streak total.
Newest Baseband/Baserom 354 and Streakdroid 1.9.1 and everything is good now.
I would never sell an Android Phone because the Original Rom sucks.

Twist79 said:
Some People can't be bothered to do updates...
I got my Streak new with 1.6 which saw 5min runtime on my streak total.
Newest Baseband/Baserom 354 and Streakdroid 1.9.1 and everything is good now.
I would never sell an Android Phone because the Original Rom sucks.
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Yeah, but you should really update. In some cases updates can be worse and cause other problems...
However, with the 2.2.2 update for the Dell Streak along with ADW Launcher pro makes it superfast & smooth phone.
Believe me as I used to have 1.6 Donut last year when I first bought the Streak...
It was sluggish. Even with the update to 2.1 it was slightly laggy although there was a slight improvement...
However, with the very LATEST update of 2.2.2, there is a real NOTICABLE difference...
It is now on par with every other high end phone, not really much different than an iphone 3g/4g, especially with something like ADW launcher.
Don't be lazy to update, you don't realize what your missing!
Also more compatability, some apps require android 2.1 or higher as a minimum requirement otherwise it may not work, so it's for the best.
Don't forget other improvements such as response, battery life, camera improvements, fixes, stability, etc...
I charged my Streak last night. It's been turned on since 11:00 at night...
It is now 2:51 in the afternoon, so it's been turned on almost 16 hours and the battery has dropped from 100% to just 95%
Battery life has been greatly improved too...

Do you guys think that different Streaks have different quality screens?
Meaning different batches/samples are better than others?
I do not remember the screen on my old Streak from last year.
However, I can say my new Streak has a BETTER & BRIGHTER screen than my own laptop as I compared the SAME images!
It's brighter, much more vivid/strong colours. Better contrast, better black & whites...
As I said previously I will compare my Streak later on this evening to my friends Samsung Galaxy and see if there's much of a difference and report back.

My Battery Life ist about 1% per hour in standby. But it constantly checks my gmail, Exchange email, google RSS feeds, Weather and so on.
But thats fine be my standards...my Defy (CM Nightly, SEA Kernel, undervolted) makes 2 working Days at its best...running the same apps but well its my business mobile so I use it a lot for calls.
The Blade(Swedish Spring R5) of my girlfriend makes a day....if she is lucky. Yeah...she loves the games....

Twist79 said:
My Battery Life ist about 1% per hour in standby. But it constantly checks my gmail, Exchange email, google RSS feeds, Weather and so on.
But thats fine be my standards...my Defy (CM Nightly, SEA Kernel, undervolted) makes 2 working Days at its best...running the same apps but well its my business mobile so I use it a lot for calls.
The Blade(Swedish Spring R5) of my girlfriend makes a day....if she is lucky. Yeah...she loves the games....
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That's amazing since your connected to the internet and the phone is automatically checking/exchanging emails, weather, etc...
With regards to battery, i've had upto 3-4 days use out of my Streak, 24/7 turned on.
This was with minimal use, few minutes of calls & no internet.
Standby is excellent on the phone.
My previous HTC Desire HD battery would drop like a fly when on standby with NO use at all, around 1-2% per hour!!

I have mine at 100% when I hit the sack (11pm) and in the morning it can be anywhere from 84-90% left.
I have it checking email every 30 minutes (work), weather once an hour.
On the way to work, I just top it off.

I agree..... I think later-issue Streaks do have the best non-amoled screens around..... On another note, I thought I had read every Streak review ever published, but I just found a newer in-depth, 8-page one at: http://www.kitguru.net/mobile/zardon/dell-streak-review-ferrari-red-revisited-with-froyo-2-2/
Enjoy!

SHildebrandt said:
I agree..... I think later-issue Streaks do have the best non-amoled screens around..... On another note, I thought I had read every Streak review ever published, but I just found a newer in-depth, 8-page one at: http://www.kitguru.net/mobile/zardon/dell-streak-review-ferrari-red-revisited-with-froyo-2-2/
Enjoy!
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Thanks for the link. Went through the review, it scored very well indeed and I agree with the review.
There is a huge difference from 1.6 to 2.2.2...
Only one thing you might be able to suggest.
Whilst in call volume, music and movie playback is clear and loud through the loud speakers, it is somewhat weak through my ear phones.
I've tried 2 different earphones, one being very expensive and was VERY loud on my previous HTC Desire HD.
What would you suggest to get louder audio playback through earphones?
I'm currently using Playerpro. It even comes with an equalizer. Even after increasing the preamp & playing around with the equalizer, it seems to have an effect through the loudspeakers but is still too low using earphones, even at max volume is not enough.
Any suggestions for an alternative music/mp3 player or a way to incease volume, mainily for music?
This will save me buying an mp3 player just to listen to music.
Thanks.

kanej2006 said:
Thanks for the link. Went through the review, it scored very well indeed and I agree with the review.
There is a huge difference from 1.6 to 2.2.2...
Only one thing you might be able to suggest.
Whilst in call volume, music and movie playback is clear and loud through the loud speakers, it is somewhat weak through my ear phones.
I've tried 2 different earphones, one being very expensive and was VERY loud on my previous HTC Desire HD.
What would you suggest to get louder audio playback through earphones?
I'm currently using Playerpro. It even comes with an equalizer. Even after increasing the preamp & playing around with the equalizer, it seems to have an effect through the loudspeakers but is still too low using earphones, even at max volume is not enough.
Any suggestions for an alternative music/mp3 player or a way to incease volume, mainily for music?
This will save me buying an mp3 player just to listen to music.
Thanks.
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I was just lurking in streak thread as I have always wanted this device. Currently I am using blazingly fast cm7 on my optimus one phone with gb audio effects. And I can't think of a phone now with gb audio effects. I have also asked for this dillema in another streak thread. After reading a bit, I think camera and earphone sound quality are the only two major issues with this device.
On your question, I would suggest that you should try to install dsp manager with instructions given in the relevant thread at xda.
But you should have root and also take a nandroid backup before proceeding to do this, as system might not boot if some problem / incompatibility is there. Search for dsp manager installation guide on xda.
There is one more thing, of which I am not sure as I have not tried it on froyo and may be froyo doesn't have audio effects coding and libs inbuilt. But you can take some clues from my audio effects thread op under optimus one development.
The later involves pasting soundfx folder under system/lib. Then you have to change permissions, reboot and install equalizer app from market or somewhere else.

Since the discussion is about Dell Streak 2.2.2.....
When i bought my Dell Streak5 few months back it came with 2.1 which I have upgraded to 2.2 . Quite like the dell streak 5 with its big screen, live wallpapers , ability to stop unnecessary process etc. Infact I like my Streak5 better than iphone 3gs which I had been using for 2 years..
I quite like Stage UI and would like to upgrade to 2.2.2 which has a better Stage UI. But I could hear issues from others complaining about reboots, UI being very laggy , battery loosing charge fast etc. So iam in two minds about upgrading to 2.2.2.
I also heard getting rid of StageUI to ADW would resolve most of the issues in 2.2.2. Is that true ?
Lets say if I upgrade to 2.2.2 and find lots of issues , how can i downgrade to 2.1 or 2.2 ? Does anyone know ? If yes can you let me know the steps to do it ?

ssomanat said:
Since the discussion is about Dell Streak 2.2.2.....
I also heard getting rid of StageUI to ADW would resolve most of the issues in 2.2.2. Is that true ?
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I used app freeze, to freeze out the stage UI, and left it that way for a week, just to make sure it didn't screw something up, then I just uninstalled it.
There is a newer version of stage, it works, but I just don't care for the interface. Use to use Launcher Pro, but the last couple of updates were causing huge lags, Go Launcher is as smooth as silk

New pro 12... can I speed it up or take it back?

I just got it today, and I'm pretty happy with it, but it lags a lot... any way to speed it up?

That's fine. I'll return it.

have you tried running a diffrent launcher? TouchWiz is heavy handed.
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How about debloating?
What lags? Laucher, centain apps, all apps?

Thremix said:
I just got it today, and I'm pretty happy with it, but it lags a lot... any way to speed it up?
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Root it, debloat it, change launcher..... It will become a beast.!
I don't remember the last time I expiranced a lag..

just a little stutter here and there. after I paired it with the logitech keyboard it crashed. Is there anyway to root it without a windows pc? I have a mac, I know ODIN is usally used for root.. I REALLY want to keep it, but I really do feel like it needs to be rooted.

Thremix said:
I just got it today, and I'm pretty happy with it, but it lags a lot... any way to speed it up?
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Thremix said:
That's fine. I'll return it.
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Thremix said:
just a little stutter here and there. after I paired it with the logitech keyboard it crashed. Is there anyway to root it without a windows pc? I have a mac, I know ODIN is usally used for root.. I REALLY want to keep it, but I really do feel like it needs to be rooted.
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LOL.....

If you have the p900, use my rom.
You will need to use bootcamp and setup windows to use Odin probably. Or just use a friends computer, that part takes all of 2 minutes.
Also use nova launcher, apex, or something similar. Stock touchwiz is garbage.

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just a little stutter here and there. after I paired it with the logitech keyboard it crashed.
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It really shouldn't be doing that.
It's one of the most powerful tablets available. (especially the Snapdragon variant)
It should not lag. You don't need to root this thing to make it usable, it's fast on stock already. There's something wrong with yours.
And it certainly isn't supposed to crash after you pair it.
Do a full wipe,
Disable as much bloatware as possible,
Install Apex or Nova, (MagUX is 400MB Ram, TW 800. Too much!)
Use Greenify to kill apps you dont need to have running once in a while (things like facebook keep restarting themselves)
And dump a .nomedia file in every folder that doesn't contain media needed for the music or notifications, or wallpapers. (You can still launch films from my files.)
That should speed it up.
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Thremix said:
That's fine. I'll return it.
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Thremix said:
just a little stutter here and there. after I paired it with the logitech keyboard it crashed. Is there anyway to root it without a windows pc? I have a mac, I know ODIN is usally used for root.. I REALLY want to keep it, but I really do feel like it needs to be rooted.
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yes you can!
depends on which device you have....
if u have the snapdragon variants u can use- towelroot, google it.

I have the Wifi only version. I see odin 3.09 can if for mac and PC, is this odin version usable to root?

I rooted it, changed to Go Launcher, and froze a bunch of crap. I also uninsulated touchwiz. runs much better. I then installed adblock, and not chrome is zooming.. Much better. I love it so much now, I went and grabbed me the Logitech case. I'm a very happy camper.

Thremix said:
I rooted it, changed to Go Launcher, and froze a bunch of crap. I also uninsulated touchwiz. runs much better. I then installed adblock, and not chrome is zooming.. Much better. I love it so much now, I went and grabbed me the Logitech case. I'm a very happy camper.
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Lol i want to root but don't want to risk it yet. Will wait a few more months lol when my warranty is up in April
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I ended up sending it back, in the 5 days I have owned it it crashed at least twice a day, random freezing, and the web performance was very jittery. it constantly had almost 700 - 800 mb of free ram, thats with me closing everything, clearing out the cache, and having greenify on. That's a lot of work for such a pricy tablet. I haven't owned a tablet since the original ipad; I went to bestbuy and spent 5 minutes with the air and immediately wished the note ran as smooth, it was like liquid lol. I broke down and picked up a 32gb. The first thing I that grabbed my attention is how much better the apps look on it, they dont look all messed up. The tablet is also REALLY nice in on the vertical axis... like a magazine. I still have my note 3, and will buy a note tablet once they make a snapdragon for less than $500 bones. Or grab a surface 3 or 4 once they get it all worked out and lower the price.

Thremix said:
I ended up sending it back, in the 5 days I have owned it it crashed at least twice a day, random freezing, and the web performance was very jittery. it constantly had almost 700 - 800 mb of free ram, thats with me closing everything, clearing out the cache, and having greenify on. That's a lot of work for such a pricy tablet. I haven't owned a tablet since the original ipad; I went to bestbuy and spent 5 minutes with the air and immediately wished the note ran as smooth, it was like liquid lol. I broke down and picked up a 32gb. The first thing I that grabbed my attention is how much better the apps look on it, they dont look all messed up. The tablet is also REALLY nice in on the vertical axis... like a magazine. I still have my note 3, and will buy a note tablet once they make a snapdragon for less than $500 bones. Or grab a surface 3 or 4 once they get it all worked out and lower the price.
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Glad you found something that suits you better, that's the main goal! Best of luck to you!

That was bad luck for you.
My Galaxy Note never lags, is super fast. I enjoy it far more than the Ipad 3 or any previous tablet I got. And the 12.2 screen is perfect for reading books, drawing sketches, watching films, browsing the web...

Thremix said:
I just got it today, and I'm pretty happy with it, but it lags a lot... any way to speed it up?
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That's fine. I'll return it.
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Glad you could wait 1 3/4 hours for a reply before deciding to return it.

The first time I had the tablet I copied a lot of pdf files in the sdcard. This make the tablet goes very slow because the file indexer read all the pdf ( 14GB approx). I let the indexer working for 2 or 3 days but usually it crash. Finally I decided to root the device for stop the index service because I really don't need to search into those files.

pibelss said:
The first time I had the tablet I copied a lot of pdf files in the sdcard. This make the tablet goes very slow because the file indexer read all the pdf ( 14GB approx). I let the indexer working for 2 or 3 days but usually it crash. Finally I decided to root the device for stop the index service because I really don't need to search into those files.
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If all your media stuff is in one or two folders you can put a blank ".nomedia" file in the dir to stop it. For me that wasn't an option so ya cleaning out the service was easier too

[Discussion] The LG G5 discussion thread

Hello LG G5 users , feel free to talk here about anything related to the LG G5 :good:
Thread Rules
1. Respect the others
2. This is an LG G5 thread , do not talk about any other LG phone here.
3. Use appropriate langage.
4. And of course , respect xda rules.
So what do you think about this LG phone ?

Hi guys , thread opened thanks to @KennyG123 , now that the G5 is out and available for sale feel free to share your experience in this discussion thread.
I will update it later with infos , reviews , battery tests..etc.
Enjoy

This is my first impression of the G5 and I'm sure once the stock and custom roms start rolling out I will have a much better experience with my phone. I picked up my new LG G5 a hour ago from my local Sprint retailer and I have already run into a few problems that kind of bother me about the phone. I switched from my Nexus 6 to this phone and I would have to say I do enjoy the feel of the phone and the fact of it being smaller and easier to hold. This is the only good thing I have really noticed about the phone so far though. The volume rocker on the left side of the phone seems very strange and would be much more ergonomic with it remaining on the back or on the right side to be easily accessible with the thumb. The G5 does not have an app drawer with the current software even though there were leaks saying that they were actually going to end up adding the app drawer for this phone. The software seems as if it went for a more Apple style design with a more vivid color scheme. I ended up looking through some of the apps and there are advertisements in the voicemail app which just seems wrong. I have already ran into a bug which should be expected with any new release of a phone of course and this bug happens when I double tap on a notification on the lock screen it locks the screen instead of opening the application which I really hope wasn't the intended purpose. So far the phone isn't as great as I expected it to be.

@CorruptProfile Thank you very much sir for this first well detailed feedback.
How about other things like the camera , performance ( if you tried any intensive game ) ? Is it buttery smooth or LG 5.0 UX suffer from lags ?

CorruptProfile said:
This is my first impression of the G5 and I'm sure once the stock and custom roms start rolling out I will have a much better experience with my phone. I picked up my new LG G5 a hour ago from my local Sprint retailer and I have already run into a few problems that kind of bother me about the phone. I switched from my Nexus 6 to this phone and I would have to say I do enjoy the feel of the phone and the fact of it being smaller and easier to hold. This is the only good thing I have really noticed about the phone so far though. The volume rocker on the left side of the phone seems very strange and would be much more ergonomic with it remaining on the back or on the right side to be easily accessible with the thumb. The G5 does not have an app drawer with the current software even though there were leaks saying that they were actually going to end up adding the app drawer for this phone. The software seems as if it went for a more Apple style design with a more vivid color scheme. I ended up looking through some of the apps and there are advertisements in the voicemail app which just seems wrong. I have already ran into a bug which should be expected with any new release of a phone of course and this bug happens when I double tap on a notification on the lock screen it locks the screen instead of opening the application which I really hope wasn't the intended purpose. So far the phone isn't as great as I expected it to be.
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Have you checked right? T-Mobile users said that the app drawer is there, like seen in the GUI Official Video (not a leek)

Killua96 said:
Have you checked right? T-Mobile users said that the app drawer is there, like seen in the GUI Official Video (not a leek)
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It is there if you use easy mode on your launcher as far as i know.
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It is there if you use easy mode on your launcher as far as i know.
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Nope, there is a third option shown in the UX 5.0 video and confirmed by T-Mobile users
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk8Zs3Mlbcs
Look at 2:19

I only really play Clash of Clans as far as game intensive on my phone and it ran very smoothly for the little bit that I was on it. The camera is far superior to any phone I have had in the past and the quality is great. The option for the regular launcher with an app drawer does not exist on my device which is no problem since I do not like the launcher in general and the Google Now Launcher is far superior to LG's. The biggest problem I have started to see with the device now is the fact the battery is weak as can be. I'm not sure if there isn't enough data collected yet to give an accurate estimate on how long the battery will last. I took the first screenshot of the battery usage before I used any high usage applications and it already was showing that my phone would last an hour and 47 minutes when it was at 41%. I would add screenshots to this but, I don't have over 10 posts yet so that isn't possible so I sent them to @Soufiansky so he can post them instead.

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I only really play Clash of Clans as far as game intensive on my phone and it ran very smoothly for the little bit that I was on it. The camera is far superior to any phone I have had in the past and the quality is great. The option for the regular launcher with an app drawer does not exist on my device which is no problem since I do not like the launcher in general and the Google Now Launcher is far superior to LG's. The biggest problem I have started to see with the device now is the fact the battery is weak as can be. I'm not sure if there isn't enough data collected yet to give an accurate estimate on how long the battery will last. I took the first screenshot of the battery usage before I used any high usage applications and it already was showing that my phone would last an hour and 47 minutes when it was at 41%. I would add screenshots to this but, I don't have over 10 posts yet so that isn't possible so I sent them to @Soufiansky so he can post them instead.
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Thank you again for the feedback , when i come back home i will post the links you send me in pm

Thanks to @CorruptProfile
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How's the phone size?
I'd be coming from the Nexus 6 which is like a phablet, so I want to know how it feels in the hand?

Mew351 said:
How's the phone size?
I'd be coming from the Nexus 6 which is like a phablet, so I want to know how it feels in the hand?
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It is 5.3" , way smaller than the huge Nexus 6.

Soufiansky said:
It is 5.3" , way smaller than the huge Nexus 6.
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I was going to get the S7 Edge but it's not rootable, so it is a huge deterrent for me

Mew351 said:
I was going to get the S7 Edge but it's not rootable, so it is a huge deterrent for me
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You can wait for the M10 , and for root it will come one day , patience
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You can wait for the M10 , and for root it will come one day , patience
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The M10 is waayyyyy too small for me ;/

Mew351 said:
How's the phone size?
I'd be coming from the Nexus 6 which is like a phablet, so I want to know how it feels in the hand?
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I came from the Nexus 6 as well and honestly I like the size of the G5 it is smaller but not too small in the hand where it feels like you are holding nothing.

Mew351 said:
The M10 is waayyyyy too small for me ;/
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Note 5 ? Nexus 6P ? We're going in an off topic here...
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CorruptProfile said:
I came from the Nexus 6 as well and honestly I like the size of the G5 it is smaller but not too small in the hand where it feels like you are holding nothing.
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What about the module thing ? I saw a lot of issues about it these days
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I don't own a module and I don't really see the purpose of owning one to be completely honest. It's basically just buying add-ons if you prefer having them or not. I enjoy having the naked look of a sleek looking phone without having a bunch of stuff all over it. It really comes down to the person if they want the parts or not and personally I don't the parts won't make the phone any worse and if the modules really just fail then it won't have any overall effect on the performance of the phone itself.

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I don't own a module and I don't really see the purpose of owning one to be completely honest. It's basically just buying add-ons if you prefer having them or not. I enjoy having the naked look of a sleek looking phone without having a bunch of stuff all over it. It really comes down to the person if they want the parts or not and personally I don't the parts won't make the phone any worse and if the modules really just fail then it won't have any overall effect on the performance of the phone itself.
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No i was talking about the stock battery module , you haven't faced any issue ? Because some people were reporting bad screen colors reproduction next to the module , others said it started taking off....etc.
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Android 7 V.S Android 6 in Real Life

Hi to every lucky body that get android 7 final.i made this topic to share your results in android 7 and compare with yours in android 6..like camera..battery..speed..tanx and hope to be usefull and active topic??????
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Well, it's a tiny bit snappier, and a tiny bit faster overall.
The battery is better; I get 3:45 to 4 hours SOT in auto brightness, full location services with wireless scanning, google now on, google cards on, hot word on from any screen... the full google experience, for short.
It's better than I had with a variety of mods and ROMs on Marshmallow.
I especially enjoy the new notification center. I can read numerous full messages and emails right from the notification slide. Quite awesome.
And I thank the gods of Google for removing the stupid enlarged tiles for Wireless and Bluetooth, the most annoying feature ever.

Battery is not bad for stock but I get the feeling with all mods and tweaks and kernels and such android M was a bit better...
But it would be unfair to compare those two as M has been worked on for a year now... N is fresh out of the box so let's wait and see how much battery can be improved.
Other than that N is very fluent and fast. Up to now also very stable and offers some important options that used to be mods some years ago.
Camera... And such... Did not really compare but would expect them to be similar...

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Other than that N is very fluent and fast. Up to now also very stable and offers some important options that used to be mods some years ago.
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I haven't tried N yet, but I was reading a comment on Slashdot that led me to believe, that it included something similar to CM13 privacy manager ? Is this true? Do you now get to choose what apps get access to? Can you block them from wireless, cellular data?
^ This feature alone made me upgrade the wife's and kids tablets from Nexus 7s to Nexus 7 (2013)s so I could put them on CM13.

OhioYJ said:
I haven't tried N yet, but I was reading a comment on Slashdot that led me to believe, that it included something similar to CM13 privacy manager ? Is this true? Do you now get to choose what apps get access to? Can you block them from wireless, cellular data?
^ This feature alone made me upgrade the wife's and kids tablets from Nexus 7s to Nexus 7 (2013)s so I could put them on CM13.
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No, but you can do that from Data Usage in Settings, in M as well.

I've been using it for 2 days now. The doze feature is way better than that of M. I've noticed certain performance boost in games like asphalt 8 as the game used to lag after thermal throttling was active in M.
The usage is very very smooth, feels very light. I mostly love the quick settings panel as because it looks and is well organised than the previous version. It's just an initial build and its quite stable. I would say I am impressed and good to go with 7.0.
Well this was my perspective.

I think charging while screen is on is improved. Can someone confirm?

eatsleep said:
I think charging while screen is on is improved. Can someone confirm?
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Not entirely sure... NExus 5x has quite some struggle with charging when screen on.
Under M there was almost no charging when screen was on and you did some browsing...
Might be slightly better under N... though I havent tested it long enough to confirm... Charging basically stopped when you used your phone constantly and not just for writing a text under M...

Nope, seems same like before.
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Edit: it actually seems better, I'm using my phone on charger for about 10mins, and ampere measures around 1100mAh.
On MM it wouldn't go to more than 300mAh while screen on.
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Nightshadow931 said:
Nope, seems same like before.
Edit: it actually seems better, I'm using my phone on charger for about 10mins, and ampere measures around 1100mAh.
On MM it wouldn't go to more than 300mAh while screen on.
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I tested it while playing a game (8 ball pool, not a resource intensive app) and the percentage went up atleast 2 to 3 % in roughly 5-10 minutes. It seems that it is improved. But we still need someone to look through the kernel's code or run a reliable test!

I have it on my 5x since it dropped was on dp5 before that. Official seems smoother don't really use the 5x since I got the s7.

I'm actually seeing what seems to be worse battery performance. I've eliminated a few apps that were troublesome, but it looks like the battery is draining faster than on "M". I'm hoping that it's simply a problem with the crappy cell signal in my office - my connection bounces between 27 different towers and it's still crappy at best.

Atleast for me, I can confirm that charging while screen on is finally fixed. Hail hydra!

As previously stated, it feels a lot snappier and lighter being on Nougat as opposed to Marshmallow. Quick Settings are better overall, especially when you're able to add custom quick tiles via apps in the Play Store. Only complaint about the Quick Settings is that the Wifi and Bluetooth used to toggle on press, then open mini settings when you clicked the text. Now it just opens mini settings. I can get used to that, though.
Oh, and I still hate the white background in the settings app. Haven't found any Layers themes that work well yet. If anybody else finds one, let me know.

lightningdude said:
As previously stated, it feels a lot snappier and lighter being on Nougat as opposed to Marshmallow. Quick Settings are better overall, especially when you're able to add custom quick tiles via apps in the Play Store. Only complaint about the Quick Settings is that the Wifi and Bluetooth used to toggle on press, then open mini settings when you clicked the text. Now it just opens mini settings. I can get used to that, though.
Oh, and I still hate the white background in the settings app. Haven't found any Layers themes that work well yet. If anybody else finds one, let me know.
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Just rooted the final N and put Substratum and Mono Theme on. Settings awesomely dark with other theme goodies.

new useful features, more usr friendly interface, for me - good change

enzo_cz said:
Just rooted the final N and put Substratum and Mono Theme on. Settings awesomely dark with other theme goodies.
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How did you get Substratum working?

bhs73 said:
How did you get Substratum working?
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Upon getting my phone rooted I downloaded it from PlayStore, installed, did the permissions, insalled Mono theme and that was it.

enzo_cz said:
Upon getting my phone rooted I downloaded it from PlayStore, installed, did the permissions, insalled Mono theme and that was it.
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Oh, that easy? Thanks man, I owe you a beer.

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Oh, that easy? Thanks man, I owe you a beer.
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Important, there are sorta probs about Substratum and Android N, such as make sure you wont apply it to Chrome and Documents for example. You'd get instant force close. And if there's any other app like that, you need to make sure it is off the list to get themed.