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This morning when I woke up to look at the time on my myTouch Slide I had a pop up saying there was a software update available so of course I downloaded it. After the download and install the phone rebooted and I received another pop up that said "Install complete. Thank you for choosing T-Mobile" does anyone know what the software update was for? I haven't noticed anything different.
Did you have the beta firmware or do you have the production firmware?
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The update was the full release that will be on the phones for sale. Officially it was to improve performance and just the final build. Because it was the official final build you should now see more apps available in the market that are made for 2.1 and above.
FULL FLASH in your browser! That was a nice surprise that nobody mentioned...
nothing else major comes to mind. They may have added some htc sense widgets but Im not sure if I just missed them the first few days I had the phone..
mine didnt work
jluna1 said:
This morning when I woke up to look at the time on my myTouch Slide I had a pop up saying there was a software update available so of course I downloaded it. After the download and install the phone rebooted and I received another pop up that said "Install complete. Thank you for choosing T-Mobile" does anyone know what the software update was for? I haven't noticed anything different.
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i recieved the same message and downloaded it but mine said install not succesfull. any one have any idea how i can get the update again?
TMO sent me a sdcard with production firmware a few days ago...does this mean I already have the update?
motorjonny said:
The update was the full release that will be on the phones for sale. Officially it was to improve performance and just the final build. Because it was the official final build you should now see more apps available in the market that are made for 2.1 and above.
FULL FLASH in your browser! That was a nice surprise that nobody mentioned...
nothing else major comes to mind. They may have added some htc sense widgets but Im not sure if I just missed them the first few days I had the phone..
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Wait a minute...you've got the MyTouch Slide ahead of release? And it has Flash?! Way to go TMo. I know a bunch of people are underwhelmed by this phone because it's not a Snapdragon, but TMo is targeting this phone for the mainstream. If it runs smooth, I may just snap it up. But I'm curious about "Project Emerald."
who needs a snapdragon
My coworker has a Nexus and we run a lot of comparisons between my slide and his (n1). (we both work for Tmo)
-faster downloads according to speedtest.net app on MyTouch Slide
-better screen touch sensitivity on MyTouch Slide
-led camera flashligh apps for MyTouch Slide (only on Nexus if you root)
I personally feel the keyboard is pointless because swype and the android keyboard work so well... I would rather have a thinner phone.. but its still work buying. After a week or so I love the phone.
Camera quality is great! Not every photo will be the best because it is still a phone... but I have taken some really great quality photos.
I do not even see the point in rooting this phone with all the available features.. Froyo (android 2.2) will be available for this phone sometime this year which will add wireless tethering and hot spots..
motorjonny said:
I do not even see the point in rooting this phone with all the available features.. Froyo (android 2.2) will be available for this phone sometime this year which will add wireless tethering and hot spots..
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A rooted phone is always faster than its stock counter-part, a stock G1 is much faster than a stock one...Even if both are on diff firmware.For ex donut roms for it pretty much superior in every way. A rooted MTS will be even faster, esp when various optimizations are applied to the stock ROM. A iPhone is fast but a jailbroken one is just better. Plus a rooted phone will allow you to really make your phone yours.
guitarfreak846 said:
TMO sent me a sdcard with production firmware a few days ago...does this mean I already have the update?
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nice my MM is keeping my update sd card from me! what size card did they send? 8gb?
froyo JIT benchmark
Ace42 said:
A rooted phone is always faster than its stock counter-part, a stock G1 is much faster than a stock one...Even if both are on diff firmware.For ex donut roms for it pretty much superior in every way. A rooted MTS will be even faster, esp when various optimizations are applied to the stock ROM. A iPhone is fast but a jailbroken one is just better. Plus a rooted phone will allow you to really make your phone yours.
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I understand and have seen this hands on.. however.. how about all of the benchmark results with froyo and the new jit component.... they are blowing the doors off of previous roms, stock and modded i assume.. I havent read into this heavily so I hate to be missing something... but this was my point about why bother rooting when froyo should be achieving these peak speeds that were previously only achievable through rooting..
If a dev can beat froyos speeds, while providing full functionality and then some.. then sure I am game.. but perhaps android is finally reaching its full potential and maximizing its hardware.. and all of these developers can start spending their time on making better widgets! (one can dream)
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I. but perhaps android is finally reaching its full potential and maximizing its hardware.. (one can dream)
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i love android but i think it's far from reaching it's full potential. it will continue to amaze us and continue to make steve jobs cry inside.
motorjonny said:
I do not even see the point in rooting this phone with all the available features.. Froyo (android 2.2) will be available for this phone sometime this year which will add wireless tethering and hot spots..
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Come on t-mo will block tethering... we didnt alow it before why would we now because of froyo, come on use your head... I could be wrong but think of it like this...
webconnects 24.99-49.99/monthly
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tethering FREE
-What do you think a provider will allow?
So root is very necessary every time when you buy a phone from a carrier... its their phone and.... root = your phone!
I do not even see the point in rooting this phone with all the available features.. Froyo (android 2.2) will be available for this phone sometime this
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-What do you think a provider will allow?
So root is very necessary every time when you buy a phone from a carrier... its their phone and.... root = your phone!
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Blackberry and win mo phones ( HD 2) tether with t mobile and are not blocked... A very very low percentage of customers even understand what tethering is... So yes tmo would rather sell web connect... But no they do not currently block the phones they currently sell with tethering... Of course tech support will definitely not help you with it.
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I was told by two employees (one was a manager) that the MyTouch Slide would be the first phone that allowed tethering. The phone I looked at had easytether installed on it so that is why I asked.
They may just be saying that because easytether was on the market. Most of the rep's I have talked to have been a little loose on details with me (LIKE THE PRICE!!!).
That won't get froyo 2.2 for a long time. May be even a year
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That won't get froyo 2.2 for a long time. May be even a year
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And you would be incorrect. Expect it with tethering and wifi hotspot feature intact in the very near future.
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androidaddict23 said:
That won't get froyo 2.2 for a long time. May be even a year
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tmobile has even said june 19 expect something big for the slide they wont say what it is but it seems like it will be froyo
jriv said:
tmobile has even said june 19 expect something big for the slide they wont say what it is but it seems like it will be froyo
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I was thinking the same thing, but why would they open their stores at 8AM instead of 10AM for Froyo?
motorjonny said:
My coworker has a Nexus and we run a lot of comparisons between my slide and his (n1). (we both work for Tmo)
I do not even see the point in rooting this phone with all the available features.. Froyo (android 2.2) will be available for this phone sometime this year which will add wireless tethering and hot spots..
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WAIT, a tmo employee openly confirming the slide WILL IN FACT be getting froyo? really? anyone else have trouble believing tmo is allowed to release this info?
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WAIT, a tmo employee openly confirming the slide WILL IN FACT be getting froyo? really? anyone else have trouble believing tmo is allowed to release this info?
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http://www.androidcentral.com/most-2010-htc-android-phones-will-get-froyo-2010
Looks like sprint is making gingerbread for the epic... I dont know if because this is a CDMA phone if this helps us at all. But it does give me hope that maybe, just maybe verizon will do the same!
http://www.androidcentral.com/epic-4g-gets-new-gingerbread-leak-android-233-and-ee03
One can only hope.
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this is of virtually no help to us.....they already had a gb leak previously which didnt help us...we are on our own with the exception of a few things here and there
nitsuj17 said:
this is of virtually no help to us.....they already had a gb leak previously which didnt help us...we are on our own with the exception of a few things here and there
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Thats too bad but here is to hoping that verizon decides to not take forever again.... Maybe the new 18 month upgrade plan from google IO can help out.
I suspect Verizon will be forced to do a 2.3 update with the recently divulged security flaw in 2.2.
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Jay Evans said:
I suspect Verizon will be forced to do a 2.3 update with the recently divulged security flaw in 2.2.
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Have a link to that I must have missed the story?
sfobrien said:
Have a link to that I must have missed the story?
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here ya go!
http://www.bgr.com/2011/05/17/99-of-android-handsets-vulnerable-to-account-credential-theft/
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here ya go!
http://www.bgr.com/2011/05/17/99-of-android-handsets-vulnerable-to-account-credential-theft/
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Has Verizon fixed the locally-exploitable issue with Android < 2.3.3 yet (you know, the one that ended up with Google pulling a bunch of apps from the market that were actively exploiting it)?
Nothing also prevents Verizon from backporting the fix, or simply ignoring it. It doesn't seem like it would be very easy to exploit (you have to perform a MITM attack on a token that's usable for 14 days? Sounds like a fairly small window of opportunity!).
As for the agreement to update devices for up to 18 months... I doubt it applies retroactively.
In case anyone hadn't yet noticed, Verizon sucks.
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As for the agreement to update devices for up to 18 months... I doubt it applies retroactively.
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I agree. I really wish though that google would pull their pants up and tell US carriers whats up. It's googles OS but it seems like the phone companies get to beat the hell out of it and google just gets to watch. It should be a little more take it or leave it, this is our baby kind of a deal I feel.
Though at this point that is just a fading dream.
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In case anyone hadn't yet noticed, Verizon sucks.
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True and False. I have had everything but Sprint and Verizon is the lesser of the demons for me. At&t is absolutely terrible I paid to get away from their horrible business model. Sure they don't update but their customer service and stability has never been matched.
The security vulnerability is common for any wifi device. The key is to not connect to insecure wifi networks.
Also the only the latest version of gb got the security update, not any and all versions of gb.
Seriously, froyo wasn't enough? Now we're crying about samsung leaked gb? It'll come in time. We already have two separate versions of CM7.
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True and False. I have had everything but Sprint and Verizon is the lesser of the demons for me. At&t is absolutely terrible I paid to get away from their horrible business model. Sure they don't update but their customer service and stability has never been matched.
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Well, yes, AT&T also sucks. Verizon has "The Network" (except when LTE crashes and 3G databases get corrupted -- fail!). AT&T has the iPhone. That's seriously all either one cares about or understands.
However, AT&T has the fortune of using hardware compatible with international unlocked models. "The Network" is, besides Verizon's main selling point, also another big way of locking us into their crappy inattention and bloat. I hate it, and I hate even more that AT&T will gobble up the most Android-sympathetic carrier and force us into bloated high-priced no-update duopoly.
I've never tried Sprint either, but it's ever more tempting.
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Well, yes, AT&T also sucks. Verizon has "The Network" (except when LTE crashes and 3G databases get corrupted -- fail!). AT&T has the iPhone. That's seriously all either one cares about or understands.
However, AT&T has the fortune of using hardware compatible with international unlocked models. "The Network" is, besides Verizon's main selling point, also another big way of locking us into their crappy inattention and bloat. I hate it, and I hate even more that AT&T will gobble up the most Android-sympathetic carrier and force us into bloated high-priced no-update duopoly.
I've never tried Sprint either, but it's ever more tempting.
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As someone who had tried all of the major 4, as well as someone who travels all over this country and canada. I have found verizon has the biggest and most stable network. Now, in full disclosure, my service when I am home 2 days a month sucks. But for someone who "needs" a nationwide network verizon is imho, the best.
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As long as there is a will there is a way. MITM are not as hard as you make it seem. I could easily come over to your wifi and make way with all your bank accounts. Wifi, bluetooth and even any GSM network are susceptible to getting attacked.
Yeah this leak is really stable guys; netfix works perfect also, and this isn't even the latest build!
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The following was posted about 30 minutes ago on the Moto forums by forum manager Mark:
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1,360. Jul 7, 2011 1:23 PM (in response to berzerker)
When is the next firmware update to gingerbread 2.3. Let's try to stay on topic, and have fun.
1. It's kind of a loaded question. "about to start" and "a while" mean different things to different people. No lie, it's difficult to manage everyone's expectations. I don't want to set the wrong expectations. Mis-interpretation just leads to frustration and further pessimism. I don't want to promise something that I don't have the control over delivery. I wouldn't expect any soak sign-up, at minimum, for another week. Soon as we get closer to soak I'll invite everyone.
2. As mentioned before we are working on a Unlockable Bootloader solution for release later this year where our carrier partners will allow it. This isn't specific to any product or carrier. Further details will be released as they are known.
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https://supportforums.motorola.com/thread/45654?start=1350&tstart=0
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Interesting that the unlocked bootloader seems to be separated from the GB update in the second post. Makes it look like the unlocked bootloader will not be coming till much later.
CaelanT said:
Interesting that the unlocked bootloader seems to be separated from the GB update in the second post. Makes it look like the unlocked bootloader will not be coming till much later.
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And even then, only when the carriers allow it. Will AT&T ever allow something like that? I say hell no.
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2. As mentioned before we are working on a Unlockable Bootloader solution for release later this year where our carrier partners will allow it.
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SoberGuy said:
And even then, only when the carriers allow it. Will AT&T ever allow something like that? I say hell no.
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Except that all AT&T phones can already be unlocked with pudding, so it doesn't matter if they allow it or not.
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And even then, only when the carriers allow it. Will AT&T ever allow something like that? I say hell no.
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AT&T sells android phones that already have unlocked bootloaders and I do not see them having a reason to deny the update.
With that said pudding will give you unlocked bootloader, once applied, FOREVER! so it will not matter at this point if they allow it or not
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AT&T sells android phones that already have unlocked bootloaders and I do not see them having a reason to deny the update.
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They do? Which ones? Last I checked, all sorts of phones have locked bootloaders. It's just that Moto's the only one who actually does more than simply lock it.
If the soak test sign ups started in a week, you could look at soak testing starting a week later, and if past updates are anything to go by, an update another week later if all went well. That puts the GB update at in the last week of July.
On the locked bootloader, a lot of people said they will not unlock until they get the official update enabling this, so although many of us are already locked, many people are probably getting screwed. Might push them to just unlock now.
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Except that all AT&T phones can already be unlocked with pudding, so it doesn't matter if they allow it or not.
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In a sense, yes. A question, and then my thoughts.
While the AT&T bootloader can be unlocked now, is it possible (not likely, just possible) from a technical standpoint, that Moto could release a GB update that would prevent pudding from working? Say GB is release next week. A month from now a guy buys an Atrix, pulls it out the box with GB. Could that GB update prevent him from unlocking the bootloader? I think it's possible this could happen.
Further, my thoughts are that there is concern for future Moto devices on AT&T. We have a reasonable solution now, for this phone. What about future Moto devices? I don't think AT&T would allow such an unlock.
ClearFire said:
AT&T sells android phones that already have unlocked bootloaders and I do not see them having a reason to deny the update.
With that said pudding will give you unlocked bootloader, once applied, FOREVER! so it will not matter at this point if they allow it or not
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Which phones on AT&T come with an unlocked bootloader? Or do you just mean that they sell phones that have bootloaders that can be unlocked? Big difference, IMO. HTC doesn't care if you unlock their bootloader. Moto says you need carrier permission. What makes you think AT&T would ever grant such permission?
As for the rest, see my questions in my previous post. I'm not sure on the technical aspects of it, but I can see this making a difference in future devices, and possibly future Atrixes that are sold...
To hell with Motorola is all I can say. How can you start a project with no planned end dates. this is utter BS.
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Which phones on AT&T come with an unlocked bootloader? Or do you just mean that they sell phones that have bootloaders that can be unlocked? Big difference, IMO. HTC doesn't care if you unlock their bootloader. Moto says you need carrier permission. What makes you think AT&T would ever grant such permission?
As for the rest, see my questions in my previous post. I'm not sure on the technical aspects of it, but I can see this making a difference in future devices, and possibly future Atrixes that are sold...
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Inspire, Captivate, Infuse. Maybe a few more. These all allow for custom ROMs and kernels, and it's only Motorola trying to lock us down. HTC doesn't care, and the Inspire has tons of ROMs and kernels. Same with the Cappy. So why is it only Motorola if it's the carrier who wants it locked?
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Inspire, Captivate, Infuse. Maybe a few more. These all allow for custom ROMs and kernels, and it's only Motorola trying to lock us down. HTC doesn't care, and the Inspire has tons of ROMs and kernels. Same with the Cappy. So why is it only Motorola if it's the carrier who wants it locked?
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I agree, they are just trying to think that there are fools out there who will believe there BS reasons.
Rootzwiki just tweeted that Droid 3 is coming with a locked BL as well....WTF!
munchy_cool said:
Rootzwiki just tweeted that Droid 3 is coming with a locked BL as well....WTF!
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No way... Wow. Those Droid 3 users are going to raise a **** storm
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Inspire, Captivate, Infuse. Maybe a few more. These all allow for custom ROMs and kernels, and it's only Motorola trying to lock us down. HTC doesn't care, and the Inspire has tons of ROMs and kernels. Same with the Cappy. So why is it only Motorola if it's the carrier who wants it locked?
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My theory on this is that carriers were willing to subsidize manufacturers' bootloader lockdowns that ensured the carrier bloatware would remain installed and stuff like tethering could be mitigated. Perhaps AT&T paid Motorola more than other manufacturers, so it's a matter of arguing over money.
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Inspire, Captivate, Infuse. Maybe a few more. These all allow for custom ROMs and kernels, and it's only Motorola trying to lock us down. HTC doesn't care, and the Inspire has tons of ROMs and kernels. Same with the Cappy. So why is it only Motorola if it's the carrier who wants it locked?
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Unlocked, or unlockable? If they are unlocked out of the box... I don't know. Maybe if presented with a choice (what Moto is doing), they would say no. But they wouldn't push for it up front. Maybe?? I don't know.
I still think they are just unlockable, and not unlocked out of the box. HTC allows for an unlock solution (my guess is so does Samsung). Not sure on LG. Moto decides to ask carrier permission.
I still see no reason why AT&T would approve such a thing. We haven't had a carrier-sold Nexus, and I'm not holding out hope we will. Look at how AT&T has crippled Android before: no sideloading, limiting apps, etc. And now you think they'll play nice with everyone?? LOL
I respect you, and I respect your opinion. I politely disagree. I don't think AT&T is the most advanced-user-friendly carrier (or dev-friendly, but we're not all devs here). Moto is certainly not the most dev friendly with the efuse and locked bootloaders. Combine the two and it's a damn mess. Shame, because I really like this lapdock feature that Moto wants to do more of.
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Inspire, Captivate, Infuse. Maybe a few more. These all allow for custom ROMs and kernels, and it's only Motorola trying to lock us down. HTC doesn't care, and the Inspire has tons of ROMs and kernels. Same with the Cappy. So why is it only Motorola if it's the carrier who wants it locked?
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No, those have LOCKED bootloaders. They're just easy to get past. Moto's aren't.
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No, those have LOCKED bootloaders. They're just easy to get past. Moto's aren't.
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because Motorola encrypts them with signed keys ...
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No, those have LOCKED bootloaders. They're just easy to get past. Moto's aren't.
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Correct. Wife has Inspire and it's locked.
Have to create gold card to unlock it.
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To hell with Motorola is all I can say. How can you start a project with no planned end dates. this is utter BS.
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Either way, WE already have an unlocked bootloader. So as far as I'm concerned I'll never get the GB update because I'll be too busy ditching Motorola altogether. The only moto left on this phone is the name under the earpiece..
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thebeardedchild said:
Either way, WE already have an unlocked bootloader. So as far as I'm concerned I'll never get the GB update because I'll be too busy ditching Motorola altogether. The only moto left on this phone is the name under the earpiece..
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yeah man, same here just waiting for the custom ROM's to come.
Finally us Brits are getting some official gingerbread yummyness. Although will be tough to change from CM7.
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Gingerbread-to-Hit-Motorola-ATRIX-in-the-UK-in-November-228480.shtml
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Happy days! !
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ICS just around the corner and GB is STILL not out!
Hopefully it will come with a new radio which can sort out my random battery drain problems.
Despite trying various radios, my battery seems to lose 3%+ per hour when sleeping so with very light use, a charge only lasts a little over 24 hours. I can only assume the problem is the radio as running Watchdog doesn't indicate that there are any rogue apps. I've tried recalibrating the battery to no end either.
As a matter of interest, which radio are other UK users trying at present? I'm currently on 1.77.30.
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ICS just around the corner and GB is STILL not out!
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Exactly, ICS will be out for AT&T before we even get GB here in the UK. I reckon it could be a while yet as our respective service providers have to add all of their bloatware to it.
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I haven't got a branded atrix so that shouldn't be a problem for me. But I don't know what I'm doing yet. Because if I restore my stock atrix I could potentially lose root and my unlocked bootloader. Meh the decision .....android is a God damn disease.....must have the new update!!!!! Lol
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To be fair Orange dosent appear to have overly bloated it (for a change) Orange Wednesday and an account checker, however seeing as that is available on the market I cant see why it would be an issue, the only other thing I can see is the addition of AP's etc, but again that should all be automatic anyways.......
Orange always claim they need to test it with their network etc but I recon 2 or 3 weeks after it's released we ought to get it *he hopes*
i find it puzzling that the milestone 2 which is older than the atrix is getting the gb update at the same time. Great news for both of our communities. But time and time again...what the hell are Motorola doing with all there time???? lol
I put a question to Motorola via the facebooks, and they said the update will come out at the same time for orange / t-mobile branded phones as it does for unbranded phones.
Of course given the delays to date I suspect the mid-November date will slip, but we shall see
I've got a Tmobile UK Atrix which I've rooted , unlocked the bootloader etc....
Is it possible to get this phone back to a state where it can be upgraded or will I need to wait until somebody does their magic and creates a CWM image to flash?
I'm really unsure how this works as I've seen many warnings about NOT reverting to Froyo if running GB.
Has anyone tried this?
I'll believe it when see it -Moto talk a lot a Kak.
Roll on the Nexus & I can dump the Atrix
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I've got a Tmobile UK Atrix which I've rooted , unlocked the bootloader etc....
Is it possible to get this phone back to a state where it can be upgraded or will I need to wait until somebody does their magic and creates a CWM image to flash?
I'm really unsure how this works as I've seen many warnings about NOT reverting to Froyo if running GB.
Has anyone tried this?
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If it's a gingerbread rom flashed through recovery you should be fine. Its just the SBF file to be wary of. If you've flashed a gingerbread SBF don't flash a froyo SBF. or you will get a hard brick.
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Sexywacko said:
I haven't got a branded atrix so that shouldn't be a problem for me. But I don't know what I'm doing yet. Because if I restore my stock atrix I could potentially lose root and my unlocked bootloader. Meh the decision .....android is a God damn disease.....must have the new update!!!!! Lol
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For sure you will loose Root access but you can get it again under Gingerbread.
Regarding the Bootloader I believe that it's a little bit different and I guess when you have unlocked it you can't go back!
If someone more confident can confirm?
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For sure you will loose Root access but you can get it again under Gingerbread.
Regarding the Bootloader I believe that it's a little bit different and I guess when you have unlocked it you can't go back!
If someone more confident can confirm?
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Yeah probably. But it's not a huge issue rooting and about the bootloader. I wouldnt of thought it would touch it. But knowing Motorola they will screw us over. Lol
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FYI:
Retail update has been released today in the UK, and (if Motorola are to be believed) T-Mobile UK and Orange UK updates will be released within a week.
OTA servers are apparently running behind but updates can be updated using Motorola's Software Update software.
https://supportforums.motorola.com/message/512793#512793
with luck Orange will have a working copy of "Your Orange" this time too....bloody thing tells me to update then I get "Package not signed" and their CS department are hopeless
Next week is better late than never I suppose
Orange UK update released via Motorola Software Update tool (v45.31.0)
I'm updating now..
Thanks for the heads up - I've just updated my sons Atrix & all went OK.
Seems to run fine on GB 2.3.4 although only tried for an hour or so as it's gone back in the box ready for Xmas
After all of this I have decided to sell my atrix....even bought a play and work kit. But its just not doing it for me. Lol
I appreciate everything all the developers do. But the forums just seem so quiet, even compared to my old desire, that forum is s**t hot still. LOL. It is a shame though as this phone had some amazing potential.
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Sexywacko said:
After all of this I have decided to sell my atrix....even bought a play and work kit. But its just not doing it for me. Lol
I appreciate everything all the developers do. But the forums just seem so quiet, even compared to my old desire, that forum is s**t hot still. LOL. It is a shame though as this phone had some amazing potential.
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I know how you feel. The Atrix forum, I felt, was never the most helpful of places. When I had my htc DHD, that forum was much more helpful.
Anyhow onwards & upwards - My Nexus came the other day so my Atrix is gather dust, probably chuck it in the bin shortly.
So the S3 is showing up with a locked boot loader. The only carrier on the planet doing that. Why? I've heard all sorts of silly excuses from Verizon apologists but ... The recently released HTC Incredible 4G has just been unlocked using the HTC developer site unlock tool. It seems they really don't have a valid reason or they would have forced HTC to lock the 4G down (HTC is hurting very badly financially and is much more likely to have to kiss V's butt that megacorp Samsung).
Flip side: Maybe it's high time for a company that doesn't need to kiss butt, with arguably the worlds most popular phone on their hands, to do something like HTC and make a developer unlock tool. That would make them the heros and add even more positive spin on the phone and the company.
Just an idea
I think with how huge the S3 is compared to the INC4G, they maybe wanted to treat it differently. Besides, not all is lost. Looks like Samsung left a few doors open. The situation doesn't look nearly as bleak as Motorola phones.
I mean..people have only had it a few days and look what we've got so far with the bootloader situation: root and a workaround for custom kernels. Things will come. I think people are just being really impatient because a lot of people don't have it yet and all the excitement, anticipation, hate for Verizon, and anger about the situation is festering and people are causing an uproar much too early.
I'd say if things are still looking bleak after a month or so, you'd have the right to be upset. Definitely not a few days after SOME people get it. At least wait until it's been officially available for a week
Good question! All I know is right now I am enjoying my stock S3. But I am on ATT. I guess last month when I was looking to leave Sprint I made the right choice huh? GSM forever for now! LTE or not!
Akita24 said:
So the S3 is showing up with a locked boot loader. The only carrier on the planet doing that. Why?
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“Network security."
In other words, no reason.
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It's likely a combination of a few things. Locked bootloaders allow them to get you to purchase more phones as upgrades slow down. But in their defense, a significant portion of users with custom ROMs that allow bad software (not really sure what) could actually be harmful to the network. Their product is the network, they don't really care about the few percentage of people that actually care about this stuff.
Which sucks for us.
Forgive my ignorance, but what does having a locked bootloader mean on a GS3?
Not rootable? no custom roms? Since its CDMA and NOT GSM, there is no "unlock" to use on another network? I'm a little confused (and an android noob)
Araltd said:
Forgive my ignorance, but what does having a locked bootloader mean on a GS3?
Not rootable? no custom roms? Since its CDMA and NOT GSM, there is no "unlock" to use on another network? I'm a little confused (and an android noob)
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Basically, when we say locked we mean encrypted. Pretty much every phone comes with a locked bootloader, it's just often easy to unlock.
When you boot up a phone, the bootloader is the first thing that loads. It checks signatures of whatever ROM you have, in some cases. This is called a signed bootloader. So you'd have to have a ROM/kernel/whatever signed with the same signature as the bootloader-- i.e., Samsung, in this case. You can sometimes spoof this key, but this bootloader is encrypted, on the SGS3. When a bootloaderis encrypted, it is pretty much impossible to fool, and it becomes very hard to load custom software on the device.
Araltd said:
Forgive my ignorance, but what does having a locked bootloader mean on a GS3?
Not rootable? no custom roms? Since its CDMA and NOT GSM, there is no "unlock" to use on another network? I'm a little confused (and an android noob)
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You can still flash custom roms I believe but no custom kernels until the boot loader is unlocked. It also makes other mods and recoveries a pain to install and run....it's mainly just a pain in the ass.
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OK got it. Thanks.
Akita24 said:
So, what's Big Reds excuse?
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$$$$$$$$$$$$
At the end of the day, no matter what they say about anything, it always comes back to that.
bbeelzebub said:
$$$$$$$$$$$$
At the end of the day, no matter what they say about anything, it always comes back to that.
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Yep. /thread
bbeelzebub said:
$$$$$$$$$$$$
At the end of the day, no matter what they say about anything, it always comes back to that.
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Agreed. Unlocked bootloader = easy root = tether apps run = more drain on the network = greater expense for the carrier. People who run modded roms and kernels tend to hold on to their phones longer, carrier may be losing money.
dohturdima said:
Agreed. Unlocked bootloader = easy root = tether apps run = more drain on the network = greater expense for the carrier. People who run modded roms and kernels tend to hold on to their phones longer, carrier may be losing money.
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The fault in your logic is that tethering is included in the shared data plans now. Anyone on these new plans can use it which I would guess could soon outnumber those who root and tether.
SlimSnoopOS said:
The fault in your logic is that tethering is included in the shared data plans now. Anyone on these new plans can use it which I would guess could soon outnumber those who root and tether.
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That, and with the exception of those of us who still have the unlimited data plans (which cannot be but so many people anymore), the user will pay for whatever data he uses.
Concern about tethering is no longer a valid excuse. ...even with Money being the motivating factor.
https://twitter.com/VZWSupport/status/221438243428765698
Do you believe everything posted on twitter?
Nope. Since I know it isn't true.
Verizon asked Samsung.
Serious_Beans said:
You can still flash custom roms I believe but no custom kernels until the boot loader is unlocked. It also makes other mods and recoveries a pain to install and run....it's mainly just a pain in the ass.
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Good news about the custom ROMs. I suppose this means that the phone may be rooted, so wireless tethering and nice programs such as Titanium Backup are possible. But, what is the additional advantage of having a custom kernel? Is that something to really look forward to?
Metups said:
Good news about the custom ROMs. I suppose this means that the phone may be rooted, so wireless tethering and nice programs such as Titanium Backup are possible. But, what is the additional advantage of having a custom kernel? Is that something to really look forward to?
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By “custom ROMs" I think he meant “Touchwiz-based custom ROMs"
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I tweeted them about this too. Their response:
We want you to have a great experience with your device! We do not support unlocked bootloaders.
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See guys? They're doing us a favor!