Hi All Xperia aRc users, please check the below link:
http://www.xperiablog.net/2011/04/25/techradar-crowns-xperia-arc-best-mobile-in-world-today/
xperiax10.awesome said:
Hi All Xperia aRc users, please check the below link:
http://www.xperiablog.net/2011/04/25/techradar-crowns-xperia-arc-best-mobile-in-world-today/
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i read this earlier.. made me more proud of it..!! btw dude you should change your name to xperiaarc.awesome..!! lol..
arcillicious!
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It means absolutely nothing.
There's no clear criteria for the ranking and no logic to it either.
deserves the top spot
step666 - it means a lot.. the x10's failure to get on these kind of lists was exactly why it bombed.. this is very good news for the brand and for the owners- we will get better support from SE if they see that their change of direction from x10 you arc is getting very positive reactions from influential media..
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Sony Ericsson's whole approach to the new Xperia handsets and embracing developers by unlocking the bootloader means something, stupid lists like this don't.
Anyway, TechRadar is hardly GSMArena - their opinion on phones is like Mumsnet's opinion on politics...
Very good to have the number 1 posistion, but the device is not popular bij devs, wich means we don't have custom roms to play with and updates depends from SE.
A litle update 2.3.3 already takes forever for SE update. So future updates will takes forever too.
It is pretty disappointing that the device is not popular at all. I am not interested in dual cores at all, but the Samsung Galaxy S2 will be immense popular and that means alot of good custom roms.
@hung77 - What on earth are you talking about?? This phone hasn't even been out for a month yet..
@step666 - of course it matters.. people use google nowadays to search for info on phones.. they ask questions like "best mobile phones" and they get Techradars list.. then they go out and buy.. so yeah.. just because you don't rate them.. doesn't mean they don't matter.
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Sony Ericsson's whole approach to the new Xperia handsets and embracing developers by unlocking the bootloader means something, stupid lists like this don't.
Anyway, TechRadar is hardly GSMArena - their opinion on phones is like Mumsnet's opinion on politics...
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While I can only agree that those lists don't mean anything, they do raise awareness around the phone and can be seen as free pub. This may help the ARC to gain marketshares and put presure on carriers to offer them. If there is a big buzz around the phones, managers at AT&T will notice and bring the phone before someone else does.
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It is pretty disappointing that the device is not popular at all. I am not interested in dual cores at all, but the Samsung Galaxy S2 will be immense popular and that means alot of good custom roms.
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Not popular ?? give it a chance, it's hardly on sale anywhere yet
The unlockable bootloader and explicit developer friendly-ness is going to hugelly boost the custom ROM development. I doubt the GalaxySII get the same amount of developer attention if it's all locked up.
The ARC will also sell worldwide with the same hardware on different markets. This is going to help development big time. Well, I believe so at least .
[Edit]; im_iceman, you so fast !!!
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@step666 - of course it matters.. people use google nowadays to search for info on phones.. they ask questions like "best mobile phones" and they get Techradars list.. then they go out and buy.. so yeah.. just because you don't rate them.. doesn't mean they don't matter.
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Believe me when I say, lists like this have very little affect on sales.
People don't buy phones just because some random site declares it the best in the world.
People who are undecided tend to head into shops and ask for advice and SE, in the UK at least, have a really clever scheme in place to raise awareness of their handsets with people that work for mobile phone retailers and to get them enthusiastic about the new handsets.
Efforts like that lead to increased sales.
I'm not arguing against the adage that any publicity is good publicity, but the position of the Arc in the list in and of itself is meaningless.
Except of course.. I believe that you're wrong. Unless you have some proof and not just you're own unsubstantiated opinion?
Fair enough.
But do you know anyone who has ever bought something just because it topped a list they saw on the internet?
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Fair enough.
But do you know anyone who has ever bought something just because it topped a list they saw on the internet?
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little a bit different but i have dropped to buy a phone (many times) because it was not one of the top position holders
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little a bit different but i have dropped to buy a phone (many times) because it was not one of the top position holders
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precisely my point.. if the phone's at the top, or near the top of a list, then it gives comfort to a prospective buyer.. the lack of any presence on the same list will make people think.. "best look into the phones that ARE on the list... they're probably better than what I was thinking of getting."
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But do you know anyone who has ever bought something just because it topped a list they saw on the internet?
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Seriously?
Err let me think... yes.
Mano1982 said:
little a bit different but i have dropped to buy a phone (many times) because it was not one of the top position holders
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I don't mean to be rude but more fool you.
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Seriously?
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Yes, seriously.
No-one I know is that suggestible.
Buying or not buying something purely because of someone else's opinion is a recipe for disaster IMO.
Step666 said:
Sony Ericsson's whole approach to the new Xperia handsets and embracing developers by unlocking the bootloader means something, stupid lists like this don't.
Anyway, TechRadar is hardly GSMArena - their opinion on phones is like Mumsnet's opinion on politics...
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ohhh, and whats is GSMArena?? iPhone's puppet !!
I love my Arc but it just need that some devs build Roms for it, I mainly bought it because its rootable but where are the devs??
It's like if I have a Ferrari without fuel
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ohhh, and whats is GSMArena?? iPhone's puppet !!
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Nope.
It's my go-to site for detailed information on phones and unbiased reviews.
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here appeard many posts like this and sadly I have to say that I want a different android phone, defenetly not SE. They are losing their customers.
What other phone would you recommend? I was thinking about milestone xt720. Maybe there is something more interesting?
Instead of spamming these boards, why don't you go to a board where you can get answers unobjectively. Also, SE already got your money, they don't care if you sell the phone.
These threads are useless and must be deleted at all costs.
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Also, SE already got your money, they don't care if you sell the phone.
These threads are useless and must be deleted at all costs.
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+1! I can understand the frustration, but don't get why people are selling their phones right now, that's just cutting your nose off to spite your face imo.
Well I got rid of mine because I've had enough of SE dragging their heels, I'm running 2.2 on my HD2 and its the best move I have made tbh.
I know SE already have my money, but I didn't see the point of sticking with something I wasn't happy with.
I know its only a phone at the end of the day and all the normal stuff worked, its just SE's policy on providing support, Ohh its ok the users who gave us there hard earned cash can wait for their update as we already have their cash.
I hope the devs can do somethin with the X10 as it is a cracking piece of kit and not worthy of running 1.6.
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Hows that desire HD rom
Here's a thought:
Instead of venting on this board where X10 users and hobbyist developers gather to exchange ideas why not send a wellformulated email to something like SE sales or SE's customer services? Most of us here have no connection to SE other than owning one of their phones. Some of us don't even have a choice and couldn't switch if we wanted to.
Coming here to vent won't really do anything other than piss people off which is kind of counter-productive. Even if some here agree with your views there's not a lot we can do other than trying to do the best we can with what we got.
If you hope to accomplish something or even get SE to recognize your problems then the best way is really to write a proper message to SE explaining your stance. It's a long-shot but there's always a chance that they will listen to the critique and act on it.
*****ing to us X10 users helps no one, most of us don't even care and it just takes up your time.
Just create a thread for all these complainers about leaving their phone yada yada yada. Simple.
I agree, if you don't like then leave and join other forum for the phone you want.
Most phone manufacturers are concern about making money and that is business so no choice.
Leave us alone here as there are some of us who still like our X10 including myself.
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Leave us alone here as there are some of us who still like our X10 including myself.
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Hear, hear. Even though we're stuck on 1.6 for now I still love the display and design of the hardware.
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Hear, hear. Even though we're stuck on 1.6 for now I still love the display and design of the hardware.
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Yes, we like and love the phone not because it has updated OS but it is the phone hardware and specs which makes us attracted to it.
Even if the phone is updated with the latest OS like 2.2 or even 3.0 but the outlook of the phone don't look nice or the specs of the hardware is not advance, holding the phone don't makes us feel good as well.
It is the same like cars, even though your car is powerful but the design of the car do not look good, less people will buy it.
Just my sharing.
kubbek said:
here appeard many posts like this and sadly I have to say that I want a different android phone, defenetly not SE. They are losing their customers.
What other phone would you recommend? I was thinking about milestone xt720. Maybe there is something more interesting?
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xt720 is nice but is older than X10.
Slowe CPU too.
And Motorola is locking their devices too.
If you want to switch, at least go to a HTC where you can play with them as much as you want.
The bad part, HTCs are ugly phones
I'm seling my X10 to go for a Captivate.
I know the camera is worse, but at least the bootloader is already hacked so CM6 is the way to go.
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xt720 is nice but is older than X10.
Slowe CPU too.
And Motorola is locking their devices too.
If you want to switch, at least go to a HTC where you can play with them as much as you want.
The bad part, HTCs are ugly phones
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Calling them ugly is a bit harsh imo, non-descript is a better name for it. They're basic and they don't stand out. They're sort of like the VW Passat, the design is perfectly fine but also very forgettable at the same time.
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Instead of spamming these boards, why don't you go to a board where you can get answers unobjectively. Also, SE already got your money, they don't care if you sell the phone.
These threads are useless and must be deleted at all costs.
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Delete these threads? Why? Coz you love your x10?
Well good for you, but others don't and this is a forum for discussion and people should be allowed to give negative opinion on a product that has not been delivered as promised.
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Delete these threads? Why? Coz you love your x10?
Well good for you, but others don't and this is a forum for discussion and people should be allowed to give negative opinion on a product that has not been delivered as promised.
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You're right. This board is for discussion. However, do they require a new thread each time?
Hmmm.. you guys obviously wouldn't care much assuming you don't donate to the board to help maintain it. I bet if you did you'd care much more about people who posts useless threads like this.
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Delete these threads? Why? Coz you love your x10?
Well good for you, but others don't and this is a forum for discussion and people should be allowed to give negative opinion on a product that has not been delivered as promised.
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I'm pretty sure all the features that were promised on the the box are working fine. Don't get confused with the ramblings you hear on the internet, they are the wants of users, not the promises of se.
I want features such as froyo, 16 million colours, flash etc. as much as anyone, but such things were never promised. And lack of 16 million colours isn't aproblem, you would be hard pressed to see the difference, unless you have a fascination with looking at colour gradients. And no multitouch, even though it has been denied as a feature countless times is a blessing. If there was multitouch you can say goodbye to using the phone one handed. Multitouch gestures are stupid, pointless and annoying.
So if you want to sell your phone, then godspeed to you. But please don't complain to other users that enjoy theirphone, just because you didn't research properly what this phone is capable of.
No offence intended, this is an open discussion and that is my point of view, if you can show evidence of broken promises then be my guest. Delay in 2.1 update doesn't count, release dates for software slip, its a fact of life. Deal with it.
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Calling them ugly is a bit harsh imo, non-descript is a better name for it. They're basic and they don't stand out. They're sort of like the VW Passat, the design is perfectly fine but also very forgettable at the same time.
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IMO a dogs backside could design something more attractive than a desire lol
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Why do some people think others care if they got a new phone LOL. I bet the honeymoon will last no more then a few weeks with their new device, then they will complain about some issues they have with it.
Sony has made some stupid moves IMO but whatever company you go to the situation will be the same. At most you will get one major update and some bugfix updates.
I blew off alot of steam about how the 2.1 update wouldn't even include 16m colors...I then got really pissed about SE delaying our 2.1 update til October. I for sure said some things out of anger....but one thing I remember clearly is that I ditched a Nexus One running 2.2 (froyo) for my X10. I loved my Nexus One, it was truly amazing....but something about the X10 pulled me to it. I find with my X10 I love it more and enjoy it much more than the Nexus One. That said, I know SE pissed alot of people off..including myself....but there's no need to ditch a phone that you know you loved because SE delayed the update. Honestly look at it this way, is your phone going to die? will it not live for another month until 2.1? will you die? can you just give your phone the chance of running 2.1 before you are so quick to judge....maybe just MAYBE!! SE are being secretive about something in the update...maybe not. But I have a damn good feeling when 2.1 drops to the X10 some people will be coming back to it....because SE will get there **** together and really deliver on this. If im wrong, then you can flame me. People have just a little more patience for the update.
just my two cents
NightSidew1nd3r;
So if you want to sell your phone said:
Well firstly he's not specifically aiming it at people who are happy with their phone, cox there are many who are unhappy.
And research properly before you buy?- like I replied to another SE fanboy on another thread, I bought my phone in March and SE did not make anything clear when phone releasing the phone- everything was rumours. And at that time all mobile phone sources were hinting an update to 2.1 before summer.
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Keep up to date im posting these on my site www.bitsnacker.com
I see why they are releasing the Xperia play, but im not so sure on the neo, pro and arc as they are all basically the same phone with a different case! They have definitely learnt fro the x10 customers though i think
There's a contest on Facebook to win one of ten Play's a month early. I think I'd rather play Farmville though.
Just been looking at the specs of the Neo and Pro.. The pro has more of a "business" market to it.. I'm not a huge fan of slide out keyboards, but a lot of people are..
The Neo seems to be a slightly smaller version of the Arc, but with the added benefit of a front facing camera...
I think I'd be torn between the Arc and the Neo.. would have to get both in my hand to see which one is best for me.
lol probably get released with 2.1 and then get froyo a year later when everyone else is already on android 3.0...
Fk SE, I love my x10 but I wouldn't buy another one of their phones
Fck SE, with XDA I can have whatever I want!
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lol probably get released with 2.1 and then get froyo a year later when everyone else is already on android 3.0...
Fk SE, I love my x10 but I wouldn't buy another one of their phones
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Students, if you look on to your left, you'll see a troll behind the glass...oh sorry, I thought it was a museum
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Fck SE, with XDA I can have whatever I want!
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agree!!
even with SCE support SE SUCKS!!!!!!
unknown13x +1.. unhealthy.. Would be interesting to hear SE's upgrade strategy for the new range though.. and a likely time line from OS release from Google to upgraded OS from SE.. if they've really leaned from the X10 then they'll have made it real easy to upgrade.. to stay ahead of the game.
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Students, if you look on to your left, you'll see a troll behind the glass...oh sorry, I thought it was a museum
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And if you look to your right, you'll see a company shill that pretends to leak huge news to help the community, but really only promotes moving on to newer company offerings.
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Keep up to date im posting these on my site www.bitsnacker.com
I see why they are releasing the Xperia play, but im not so sure on the neo, pro and arc as they are all basically the same phone with a different case! They have definitely learnt fro the x10 customers though i think
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The "neo" is the vivaz 2 ^^
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R.I.P. Sony Ericsson!
Samsung is going 3 steps further with super amoled plus, 8.4mm thickness and dual core processor, after all these the Xperia Arc seems for childs to play! Sad..
lol probably get released with 2.1 and then get froyo a year later when everyone else is already on android 3.0...
Fk SE, I love my x10 but I wouldn't buy another one of their phones
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Fck SE, with XDA I can have whatever I want!
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And if you look to your right, you'll see a company shill that pretends to leak huge news to help the community, but really only promotes moving on to newer company offerings.
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Please grow up and be mature, do not spam this thread with your useless comments.
If you have anything to discuss about those product do use as long as it's not off-topic. Otherwise go somewhere is
There will be MASSIVE trolls tonight...straight up
Regarding its update, it's actually on another stage of development already...You'll hear some good news in April
unknown13x said:
There will be MASSIVE trolls tonight...straight up
Regarding its update, it's actually on another stage of development already...You'll hear some good news in April
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Quick question though, are they planning to release the 2.4 soon?
as far as I know it will be the same as the 2.3 but with dual-core apps support
Can't blame them if they won't though, Google just release 2.3 is December and they already are planning to release 2.4 in April :S
They have to slow down honestly, with this rate, they'll be out of OS names soon
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Quick question though, are they planning to release the 2.4 soon?
as far as I know it will be the same as the 2.3 but with dual-core apps support
Can't blame them if they won't though, Google just release 2.3 is December and they already are planning to release 2.4 in April :S
They have to slow down honestly, with this rate, they'll be out of OS names soon
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April Did you noticed something in the announcement? Neo and pro never mentioned anything about 2.3. All they said is...Gingerbread
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April Did you noticed something in the announcement? Neo and pro never mentioned anything about 2.3. All they said is...Gingerbread
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LoL smart thing to do
Can't wait for them to be released honestly
unknown13x
Hi! Can you tell me what is the hardware difference between Arc and Neo besides screen size and front camera? Wanted to get arc, but now i see that neo is not bad too. Could you? Thanx!
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unknown13x
Hi! Can you tell me what is the hardware difference between Arc and Neo besides screen size and front camera? Wanted to get arc, but now i see that neo is not bad too. Could you? Thanx!
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That's about all that's different. If you want to save ALOT of money, go for neo, just a friendly suggestion I'm personally getting the arc soon, though if I have to dish out my money, the neo sold me
So anyone that doesn't agree with you and say "Omg Dizz iz so awesummm" is a troll?
Sorry, but others are allowed to have dissenting opinions, that's a fact of life. Go start an SE fan club if all you want is positive "Sony is da besttt!!11!" comments
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So anyone that doesn't agree with you and say "Omg Dizz iz so awesummm" is a troll?
Sorry, but others are allowed to have dissenting opinions, that's a fact of life. Go start an SE fan club if all you want is positive "Sony is da besttt!!11!" comments
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I didn't know opinions allowed here includes profanities In the view of people who use such words can only be viewed in one aspect as I have described. I don't mind people talking with real reasons, and I have accepted many opposing opinions, but to come in and say "F this, F that" IMO doesn't really put up much of a fight...
This solidifies my view that SE and Samsung are the only two mobile companies I can trust. That said, you never know...no one is 100% safe.
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toinkzzzz. what a evil company..
ACCESS_COARSE_LOCATION Allows an application to access coarse (e.g., Cell-ID, WiFi) location
ACCESS_FINE_LOCATION Allows an application to access fine (e.g., GPS) location
ACCESS_LOCATION_EXTRA_COMMANDS Allows an application to access extra location provider commands
ACCESS_WIFI_STATE Allows applications to access information about Wi-Fi networks
BATTERY_STATS Allows an application to collect battery statistics
DUMP Allows an application to retrieve state dump information from system services.
GET_ACCOUNTS Allows access to the list of accounts in the Accounts Service
GET_PACKAGE_SIZE Allows an application to find out the space used by any package.
GET_TASKS Allows an application to get information about the currently or recently running tasks: a thumbnail representation of the tasks, what activities are running in it, etc.
READ_LOGS Allows an application to read the low-level system log files.
READ_SYNC_SETTINGS Allows applications to read the sync settings
READ_SYNC_STATS Allows applications to read the sync stats
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thats what the hack does .
is any of that worrying ? i dont care if some one finds out my gmail syncs every 15 min or if they now i have recharged my battery 500 times so far? or what cell phone tower or wi-fi im connected to?
like trying to over blow something much? problem yes but not the end of the world
I'm not denying this is bad, but I hardly think se is "trustworthy" with their amazing support track record... Lol
Oh we just put out a phone two months ago and we don't feel like updating it any more, so we won't!
I dont think thats the problem.
I think if HTC can do it somebody else can read out the phone's also.
Like passwords en other information.
There is a service on the phone where if you lose your phone you can remote locate it and wipe it.
I'd say these "apps" have something to do with that.
That's not what this app is for, it's specifically for HTC to get log information, probably for either remote support of their devices or when people send them to service centres. The problem with this is that they have left the whole interface totally open to any person or app that fancies having a look and gathering user data which probably will be sensitive.
Not at least securing it with basic authentication is just plain stupid. Although it would have to be more advanced than a simple user/pass.
Surprised that they haven't been taken to court on data protection issues. Although I wouldn't be surprised to see that coming fairly soon.
All they needed to do, would be to secure this app properly and encrypt the data its logging and they woulld be safe.
Sounds to me like the htc developers were told to implement it and had a very short turnaround to get it into the latest release. Hoping once again for obscurity, which in an open source project is daft!
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I'm not denying this is bad, but I hardly think se is "trustworthy" with their amazing support track record... Lol
Oh we just put out a phone two months ago and we don't feel like updating it any more, so we won't!
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Stop living in 2010...SE are a different company. In fact, they gave GB to the 1.5 year old X10 and they are supporting all new 2011 Xperias. Yes SE made a mistake but people learn from their mistakes and SE did.
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Stop living in 2010...SE are a different company. In fact, they gave GB to the 1.5 year old X10 and they are supporting all new 2011 Xperias. Yes SE made a mistake but people learn from their mistakes and SE did.
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Haha we'll see...
I bet x10 mini owners wouldn't agree with you.
They've been doing this same stuff for years.
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Haha we'll see...
I bet x10 mini owners wouldn't agree with you.
They've been doing this same stuff for years.
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That counts as 2010. All the original X10 branded devices and the X8. The new 2011 lineup has been maintained pretty well.
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That counts as 2010. All the original X10 branded devices and the X8. The new 2011 lineup has been maintained pretty well.
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So then it is ok for them not to correct that mistake?
Not doing anything about it is supposed to be evidence of changing?
Sorry but I don't get that..
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So then it is ok for them not to correct that mistake?
Not doing anything about it is supposed to be evidence of changing?
Sorry but I don't get that..
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They are...just with the 2011 Xperia range. Why would they update such an 'old' phone? There's no reason to. The X10 they did because it was their flagship, the others were their sideline devices. Do I agree with them for not updating? No. But updating right now is kind of pointless...
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They are...just with the 2011 Xperia range. Why would they update such an 'old' phone? There's no reason to. The X10 they did because it was their flagship, the others were their sideline devices. Do I agree with them for not updating? No. But updating right now is kind of pointless...
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Lol
This kind of logic is pretty ridiculous IMO, and only leads to more "well they didn't upgrade the Neo because it isn't the arc", etc..
They should upgrade to keep customers as customers...
There are reasons they are doing pretty horribly, they don't have a very good reputation.
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Lol
This kind of logic is pretty ridiculous IMO, and only leads to more "well they didn't upgrade the Neo because it isn't the arc", etc..
They should upgrade to keep customers as customers...
There are reasons they are doing pretty horribly, they don't have a very good reputation.
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The phones are a year old...even HTC cut off support for the Desire, etc.
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The phones are a year old...even HTC cut off support for the Desire, etc.
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when they released it was already behind on 1.6..
Then they catch up (not even really) and turn around and stop updating..
I don't think se have proven to be trustworthy at all actually.
Like I said, we'll see.
The whole arc housing cracking and se refusing to take any responsibility doesn't show me a changed company either
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when they released it was already behind on 1.6..
Then they catch up (not even really) and turn around and stop updating..
I don't think se have proven to be trustworthy at all actually.
Like I said, we'll see.
The whole arc housing cracking and se refusing to take any responsibility doesn't show me a changed company either
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Since you're a SE hater even if they do take responsibility, you'll just complain again & say things like it's not genuine & they're doing it just to stay afloat... , Any company have its problems & dunno why you just bash SE, Motorola phones are locked down, HTC well this topic and not to mention their desire gb update , Samsung is doing good but even their best phone which is your favorite sg2 had problems like that yellow thing in screen like someone pissed under the lcd hehe so don't just bash SE and X10 for the sake of it
Lol guys.
Iridaki was right lol scoobysnacks now thinks that buying this Sony Ericsson phone was a bad mistake lol
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Since you're a SE hater even if they do take responsibility, you'll just complain again & say things like it's not genuine & they're doing it just to stay afloat... , Any company have its problems & dunno why you just bash SE, Motorola phones are locked down, HTC well this topic and not to mention their desire gb update , Samsung is doing good but even their best phone which is your favorite sg2 had problems like that yellow thing in screen like someone pissed under the lcd hehe so don't just bash SE and X10 for the sake of it
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whatever you want to think, i'm not a hater, i'm just not a fanboy either.
I have owned many brands of phones, but I felt the worst treatment from se.
Just my opinion, you're entitled to you're own as well. No need to get personal..
I do agree on some points with scooby, they have had a long history of sell it and forget it. But, they do seem to finally be realising that having great and stylish devices (even if the hardware has been a little okish instead of groundbreaking recently) isn't enough and they need to keep devices up to date and to engage with their customers.
You can tell they are changing with the single biggest thing they have done recently and supporting the FXP team with the tools to get full functions from their devices.
I know that doesn't help with us who have older devices, but by supporting FXP they are indirectly supporting the "other" 2010 models just in effect outsourcing the upkeep and ongoing development to the community who will support the devices until they are not in such widespread use.
scoobysnacks said:
whatever you want to think, i'm not a hater, i'm just not a fanboy either.
I have owned many brands of phones, but I felt the worst treatment from se.
Just my opinion, you're entitled to you're own as well. No need to get personal..
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why personal? because I said you're a SE hater? you mean you aren't? I don't want to get personal or offend you, I just stated what I observed from reading your posts after you switched from X10, I bet you liked your X10 when you had it but know that you're moved to a better phone no need to use every single opportunity to bash SE & X10, Every time anyone says anything good about X10 you jump in with your "yeah, right, lol" attitude & try to make fun & bash SE & X10, I'm not a fanboy nor do I think it's the best phone out there & you have the right to express your opinion but you're trying hard to convince everyone here that SE & X10 is ****, Well I think most of us don't agree that it's **** & terrible & most of us know about its problems but like the phone & don't feel really good about just pointing out its cons over & over again
as for companies well imo none of them are really trustworthy, they're doing business & do it for money, None of them are charity or anything, so better to just judge them base on what they do & not why they do it
http://www.gsmarena.com/newscomm-3320p3.php
I hate to say... but I don't like it at all... Sony Xperia? Damn... it sounds weird...
Good..
Hopefully we will see some real contenders from se now
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Good..
Hopefully we will see some real contenders from se now
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You did mean Sony...
I do not see as something good... Sony has one of the best security measures in the market... and also we can forget about open source... Sony is just a Japanese Apple, judging from Playstation scene...
Ferrum Master said:
You did mean Sony...
I do not see as something good... Sony has one of the best security measures in the market... and also we can forget about open source... Sony is just a Japanese Apple, judging from Playstation scene...
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I doubt they will do that with android.
They will follow suit to compete.
Now they might release phones that are extremely stylish AND offer competitive specs, the latter something they have truly been behind on.
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I doubt they will do that with android.
They will follow suit to compete.
Now they might release phones that are extremely stylish AND offer competitive specs, the latter something they have truly been behind on.
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If they lock up after previously going open, Sony's gonna lose a serious amount of customers.
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If they lock up after previously going open, Sony's gonna lose a serious amount of customers.
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Exactly...
They will follow samsungs suit for sure
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I doubt they will do that with android.
They will follow suit to compete.
Now they might release phones that are extremely stylish AND offer competitive specs, the latter something they have truly been behind on.
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No Sony will open the pandoras box... they will defend their own stuff. Lock the Bootloader for sure, and introduce encryption. Why?
We all know that Sony for years didn't give to its child SE one thing... Playstation Sources... nobody in the world can emulate PS2/PSP as good as their own creator... we all know that theoretically wise todays phones are PS2 capable if PSP Vita is PS3 graphics capable at the moment... imagine, if your stock Android could run all PSP/PS2 legacy just with proper efficient recompiler? SE experimented with Xperia Play and stepped on Sony's foot, and seems Sony didn't like it, as it can ruin their business with PSP line(inner competition).
Style? Yeah for sure... it was and it will be... SONY has the best design by default... nobody can touch them in that department...
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No Sony will open the pandoras box... they will defend their own stuff. Lock the Bootloader for sure, and introduce encryption. Why?
We all know that Sony for years didn't give to its child SE one thing... Playstation Sources... nobody in the world can emulate PS2/PSP as good as their own creator... we all know that theoretically wise todays phones are PS2 capable if PSP Vita is PS3 graphics capable at the moment... imagine, if your stock Android could run all PSP/PS2 legacy just with proper efficient recompiler? SE experimented with Xperia Play and stepped on Sony's foot, and seems Sony didn't like it, as it can ruin their business with PSP line(inner competition).
Style? Yeah for sure... it was and it will be... SONY has the best design by default... nobody can touch them in that department...
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You're spouting a lot of rumor and opinion as truth.
From what I hear ericsson was the dead weight in that relationship, holding up development and making poor choices.
I think we will in the end see this as a very positive move.
I really think Sony knows better than to bury themselves like you are implying.
Soon, someone is going to make a misinformed post about the whole Sony/PS3/GeoHot thing and how that relates to this situation...
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Which it doesn't, of course.
U know no means to connect PS3 to android its completely different sony made PS3 and its firmware and they want to sell games and keep away piracy from PS3 to earn money...
In android I think its a rule to atleast release the kernel sources...
And they don't want to loose money they are here to earn money and they see every means and techniques to earn money and they will definitely not lock their devices down to loose their money by losing their costumers...
The prices I think will definitely raise
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sahibunlimited said:
U know no means to connect PS3 to android its completely different sony made PS3 and its firmware and they want to sell games and keep away piracy from PS3 to earn money...
In android I think its a rule to atleast release the kernel sources...
And they don't want to loose money they are here to earn money and they see every means and techniques to earn money and they will definitely not lock their devices down to loose their money by losing their costumers...
The prices I think will definitely raise I think
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I doubt the prices will raise, they are already one of the more expensive brands.
The arc costs the same as the sgs2 if i were to buy it from Rogers.
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I doubt the prices will raise, they are already one of the more expensive brands.
The arc costs the same as the sgs2 if i were to buy it from Rogers.
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If I go to normal shop then u are right...
If eBay then
Arc is 2/3 price of sgs2
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I think they will improve their product as they can in order to compete in the market. And Sony's software policy is the same on each platform. Android is not an excuse.
And... We are not objective mates... we are just a bunch of geeks, and mere customers doesn't care about locked/unlocked bootloaders. We are nothing more than a mere minority of the market... definitely not the one on whom money could be made!(except of the habit bricking phones)
No matter what Ericsson is dead again... it is the second time Although its original Semiconductor part is doing great... its next gen CPU is present even on Chinas HTC Sensation(Due TD-SCDMA) and new NovaTHOR platform sounds very good, so we wont forget the name so soon.
The Biggest looser in the market is that old rubber boot maker... SE because the plain redesign using faster CPU, minimized the costs for R/D and etc development to establish new generation of phones for fall season... instead of NOKIA throwing out endless rubbish...
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If I go to normal shop then u are right...
If eBay then
Arc is 2/3 price of sgs2
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Does Samsung has also a policy for selling cheaper phones to poor countries and Asia? That explains why the cost is so different on ebay... they are just gray market phones...? And SGS2 is popular and it keeps the price high...
Sony's smartphone play: Too little, too late <link
*edit/- The views expressed in this article are solely those of Roger Cheng and CNet.
Any response to butthurt incurred by said article should be addressed to him.
sorry guys, had to
look, we are all entitled to our opinions.
However, I am getting tired of all this whining about how Sony will destroy SE's legacy. Sony and Ericsson both helped in the JV, they also could have given more. We will never know cause we don't work for them. but one thing is for sure though, IT'S NO CERTAINTY THAT SONY WILL DESTROY THIS LEGACY. Of course I'm not saying they might or might not, but jeez people, don't write them off without giving them any chance. see what they have to offer then whine. sheesh.
NoTnERb said:
look, we are all entitled to our opinions.
However, I am getting tired of all this whining about how Sony will destroy SE's legacy. Sony and Ericsson both helped in the JV, they also could have given more. We will never know cause we don't work for them. but one thing is for sure though, IT'S NO CERTAINTY THAT SONY WILL DESTROY THIS LEGACY. Of course I'm not saying they might or might not, but jeez people, don't write them off without giving them any chance. see what they have to offer then whine. sheesh.
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Agreed...
The two of them together were doing a good job failing anyway. Lol
If anything this has the ability to bring them back to the top
scoobysnacks said:
Agreed...
The two of them together were doing a good job failing anyway. Lol
If anything this has the ability to bring them back to the top
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You know what they say when you're at the bottom, there's nowhere to go but up
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Sony Ericsson Xperia = S.E.X
now it's just S.X => .......
If Sony success, you will get awesome phones man. Don't complain about these change.
Today i woke up and checked my mail. I got this mail from my freind in sweden. Hi again Sondre. I got som bad news. Sony Ericsson is no more. Sony bought them out. Which makes our phones a bit "different".
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personally i see this as good news, now sony can properly integrate there features together (im looking at you playstation brand)
silvacrest said:
personally i see this as good news, now sony can properly integrate there features together (im looking at you playstation brand)
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I disagree. Sony have confirmed they will not be using Android on there devices in the future.
SondreVAIO... Stop posting 1001 threads about the same damn thing. You've done this multiple times with multiple topics.
source? they will be using around and windows mobile and said that while unlikely they may persue buying palm OS from HP.
however this deal does not go through until early 2012 so expect business as usual.
my source...my uncle who works for S.E in sweden
I think I am going to get a Samsung next time I get a new smartphone, If Sony confirmed there not using Android.
I don't know if I'm gonna like this unless it means more big budget titles come to the Xperia PLAY.
Sony's got a long streak going for dip**** decisions, poor marketing and absolutely dreadful ad campaigns. SE's Kristen Schaal ads for the Xperia PLAY were easily better than any of that garbage Sony tried to market the PS3 with.
who needs sony we have our own comunity here we will build our own ultimate rom if sony leave us in a pit.
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I disagree. Sony have confirmed they will not be using Android on there devices in the future.
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Source for this? I know the Vita won't use Android, but it would make sense for them to do it for cellular and tablet devices...
jutley said:
who needs sony we have our own comunity here we will build our own ultimate rom if sony leave us in a pit.
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Unless you have an r800x then, like me sadly, you need sony to release some kernel sources for your device, which may never happen, so in some way I agree with you because Im sure a dev in this community will figure the lil ol' r800x out sooner or later
If sony drops android though I will more then likely go back to Droid line up , Im seeing Droid 4 on Lte kinda tempting
But at the same time Im enjoying the challenge of my r800x, it will be defeated!
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I don't know if I'm gonna like this unless it means more big budget titles come to the Xperia PLAY.
Sony's got a long streak going for dip**** decisions, poor marketing and absolutely dreadful ad campaigns. SE's Kristen Schaal ads for the Xperia PLAY were easily better than any of that garbage Sony tried to market the PS3 with.
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I second that. I'm a bit worried too. Indeed Sony has a history of making very very bad decisions by trying to go their own way and fail.
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I disagree. Sony have confirmed they will not be using Android on there devices in the future.
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well....your gonna have to show a link for that, SE mentioned a while ago that 80% of there revenue came from their android phones, why would they jump ship now?
in fact i got a quaot for you from engadget:
"Update: Sony president and CEO Sir Howard Stringer has just addressed the media on the proposed buyout and confirmed that the company will indeed move away from feature phones, as previously stated. This effectively heralds the death of the Walkman line and the dawn of Sony's exclusively Android era, though Stringer's not ruling out the possibility of bringing another OS on board. When asked whether his firm would consider buying webOS, the exec said simply, "Never say never."
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Source for this? I know the Vita won't use Android, but it would make sense for them to do it for cellular and tablet devices...
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Engadget. go read.
Engadget seems to prove you wrong...
Ok here is a source
never mind what I said earlier, But it is important to give a source so that it doesn't cause any confusion.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/27/idUS69098+27-Oct-2011+HUG20111027
RacecarBMW said:
For the millionth time. THIS IS JUST A RUMOR.
UNLESS YOU HAVE A SOURCE TO BACK THAT UP!
yes that was in caps on purpose.
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If i use your drop box link will you get the extra 250mb an myself aswell ?
Random i know...
216Monster said:
If i use your drop box link will you get the extra 250mb an myself aswell ?
Random i know...
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Yes we both will get an extra 250mb.
Logseman said:
Engadget seems to prove you wrong...
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all i have to say to you is. your an ass.
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Engadget. go read.
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what? are you spreading bad information on purpose or something?
Engadget pretty much says the exact opposite of what your claiming, sony are ditching feature phones and are going 100% into android
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/27/...nt-venture-assumes-ownersh/#comment-347181325
lol, pwned