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So Android is being ported to WM handsets... is the opposite possible?
I really dig my Hero, and Android is nice, but hands down, I will take HTC Sense 2.5 on WM6.5, 10 times out of 10.
Arent the guts of the Hero and the TP2 very similar... this should not be that hard for the XDA fam, right?
Sorry to burst your bubble, but nobody here really wants it bad enough to put forth the time and effort to port it. Many of us see WM 6.5 as the inferior platform that it is (compared to Android), and it doesn't seem worth it to a lot of people. Another thing is, WM isn't open source like Android, so it would probably be even harder to get working. Sorry mang
blaineball said:
So Android is being ported to WM handsets... is the opposite possible?
I really dig my Hero, and Android is nice, but hands down, I will take HTC Sense 2.5 on WM6.5, 10 times out of 10.
Arent the guts of the Hero and the TP2 very similar... this should not be that hard for the XDA fam, right?
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Most likely NO, why? time to port all the different drivers , UIs etc. and another reason...is WHY?? WinMo is a piece of sh#@ that is why we are using Android based phones
I love some of the apps on WM 6.5, but it's SO dead to me. I don't ever want to see it ever again, as long as I live.
To answer your question, I doubt it will EVER happen. Ever. The reason being is that drivers would have to be written from scratch on lots of the hardware. There would have to be a bootloader modification too in order to actually load the WM image, which I'm not sure how that could be accomplished without a tremendous amount of work either.
Usually when the guts are similar (as you're right in TP2 and Hero) but the screen is definitely different, there's a trackball, what do you do with the hardware keys, etc. Lots of "behind the scenes" differences IMO.
You never know though, I always try not to say "never."
That would be going backwards, and tje 6.5 ui is aweful ugly with the ugly menu buttons on the bottom. Ohhh dont forget about the lag issues
No, but you should be able to pick up a WM 6.5 phone coming soon to a dollar store near you.
I gotta say I made the switch to android because I was able to boot android on my Touch but going from android to winmo is simply insane...
Why dont you buy a TP2 and use the android build thats out, my friend got it up an running and is now saving for a hero or supersonic. I used to swear by winmo even when the gayphone came out but Android ****s on Winmo 6.5 EVERYDAY
People are replacing WM6.5 with Android for a reason.
Only a fool would go the other way.
This may just be the craziest thing that I have ever read.
I think its safe to say most us here came from winmo, I also think its safe to say after about a day or less we said,"im never goin back to winmo." Im pretty sure everyone meant it too. the winmo guys are still sayin
That their waiting to switch because android is still new and not polished enough lol I was sayin it too lol but I was wrong as hell hence why im here
It would be an interesting endeavor, but as others have said you would probably have trouble finding someone with the technical knowledge who cares to do so. Most android users have experienced WM, but most WM users haven't experienced android. I think what will be interesting is when WP7S comes out, then you might see people trying to get that on our phones.
But really why should anyone want to port WM6.5 on to android phones? For the same reason many hacking projects start: just to see if we can
There's a major reason Android can run almost anywhere whereas WinMo is basically trapped on the devices it was originally developed for:
Source code
The marketplace is finally beginning to understand the power of that distinction.
I understand the questioning since they are porting Android to WinMo phones.. but did you ever stop to think that the reason they're doing that is to get rid of WinMo? Why in the world would you want to put WinMo in place of Android?
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There's a major reason Android can run almost anywhere whereas WinMo is basically trapped on the devices it was originally developed for:
Source code
The marketplace is finally beginning to understand the power of that distinction.
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that is a great point, didn't think about that.
surrealbliss said:
I understand the questioning since they are porting Android to WinMo phones.. but did you ever stop to think that the reason they're doing that is to get rid of WinMo? Why in the world would you want to put WinMo in place of Android?
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they are not doing it to get rid of winmo, its just one of those things thats cool to have, just like any other app.if us winmo users wanted android, we would buy android, i mean why would you go with just android when you could go winmo and have both? it not perfect yet but it is getting better. and standard android is so ugly to me, it just looks so simple{as does standard winmo} without sense ui.but sense on winmo just looks alot better than android sense. just my 2 cents.....
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There's a major reason Android can run almost anywhere whereas WinMo is basically trapped on the devices it was originally developed for:
Source code
The marketplace is finally beginning to understand the power of that distinction.
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If source code had anything to do with it, BlackBerry and the iPhone wouldn't be so popular.
Android is overtaking WM because it's a better, more consumer-friendly OS with more, better apps.
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No, but you should be able to pick up a WM 6.5 phone coming soon to a dollar store near you.
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lawl!
jonnythan said:
If source code had anything to do with it, BlackBerry and the iPhone wouldn't be so popular.
Android is overtaking WM because it's a better, more consumer-friendly OS with more, better apps.
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Truer words have not been spoken regarding why we all left winmo
i think if a dev wanted to he could port wm to the hero or any android phone. but as others i came from webos & winmo and android is by far the best os ive ever used. i also think wm7 will be a huge fail as android is close to dominating the market share right now. i know what im sticking with!
android is close to beating apple, winmo and palm. it has them all running scared right now, that's why apple is suing htc.
Honestly!...
Why should I flash "googles" Android into my Bad Ass HD2???
No Joke! I need to know what all the fuss is about...
Why you ask? Well for a number of reasons. A search will tell you all of that as im sure this question has been asked over and over lol.
If you need to ask...
Seriously, why don't you just try it? You're not flashing anything. You won't lose any of your current information. I was enjoying the hacked versions of WinMo on my HD2, but now with Android I don't feel I need to ever go back.
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If you need to ask...
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This.
If you need to ask you don't belong in this forum section. Please go back to WinMo.
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lol
Let's be nice. Android is pretty limitless many things can be added. Winmo is sorta outdated. Right now winmo has a lot of community support but that's just not enough. Try it . Dont expect anything and see what you get.
Biggest problem I see is winmo users go into android expecting the same experience.
sent from my hd2.
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Funny one
topic: some things are better with android, some arent. I think the interesting fact is to chose the operating system YOU want to use.
You can compare it with the operating system situation on your PC. Some people want to use Ubuntu, OpenSUSE, MacOSX,.....
I think it's a perfectly legitimate question: Not everyone has the love of digital adventures, tweaking or driving someone with more knowledge up the wall we do.
Why not just say what you like about Android? Unless you're not sure....well?
I enjoy reconfiguring my phone. I must have flashed custom WinMo ROM's a hundred times and radios tens of times. Configuring script to put my applications back the way they were, testing the build for smooth operation, stability and features had been a thrill of mine...my hobby, I guess you'd say, since the HD stemming from late 2008.
Android just kind of picks up where Winmo left off. I'm using Elegancia ROM and have been for months. It works great with the Android offerings.
Is Android better? If that's your question, then in my opinion, WinMo is better than Android on the HD2 as of this writing, by Android on this device is catching up incredibly fast.
Maybe you'll like it, maybe not. If your interested enough to chance getting flamed, then you are most likely a candidate to give it a go.
3 simple reasons
1. faster internet browsing
-android have simply a faster browsing experience for me, faster than opera on wm anyday
2. market
-the abundance of customization and application in the android market vs the wm store is like comparing a walmart to a gas convience store for choice of app and avaibility of apps
3. utility
-android simply utilize our screen and hardware much more efficently than windows. try the foursquare app on windows, and then try the foursquare app on android, it's like comparing a dirt road to a 5 lane highway in terms of usability and speed
audscott said:
I think it's a perfectly legitimate question: Not everyone has the love of digital adventures, tweaking or driving someone with more knowledge up the wall we do.
Why not just say what you like about Android? Unless you're not sure....well?
I enjoy reconfiguring my phone. I must have flashed custom WinMo ROM's a hundred times and radios tens of times. Configuring script to put my applications back the way they were, testing the build for smooth operation, stability and features had been a thrill of mine...my hobby, I guess you'd say, since the HD stemming from late 2008.
Android just kind of picks up where Winmo left off. I'm using Elegancia ROM and have been for months. It works great with the Android offerings.
Is Android better? If that's your question, then in my opinion, WinMo is better than Android on the HD2 as of this writing, by Android on this device is catching up incredibly fast.
Maybe you'll like it, maybe not. If your interested enough to chance getting flamed, then you are most likely a candidate to give it a go.
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perfectly put but still deserved a flame or two lol
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This.
If you need to ask you don't belong in this forum section. Please go back to WinMo.
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LMAO
To the OP: Exactly what everyone else said (apart from infiniteecho)
Try it and see. Nothing to lose except maybe half an hour of your time.
As said above its 'hoarses for coarses'. I wasnt expecting much from Android because Minmo did everything I needed +more, plus it looked ok visually IMHO using CHT etc.
But android just feels slicker somehow...plus I'm not yet missing any of the features that I thought I really loved in winmo. Just the fact of having a good Market is a BIG plus for some people (myself now included although I always thought I'd never care for thousands of mainly pointless apps )....Android is generally a LOT more finger friendly than any 6.5.x build..... the list goes on.
Personally I am becoming a convert FAST. I will almost deffinately switch soley to Android when a proper android rom is released.
Dual booting is great and its always nice to have the option of two O/S's, but I find myself wanting to see Winmo less and less everytime I wake my new Android phone from its beuty sleep I just dont love Winmo like I used too lol.
But the only way you will ever really know is if you try it for yourself go on you (probably) wont be dissapointed.
WinMo stock = sack of **** on the HD2, you have to hack and slash away until you eventually get something that works. Then, and only then can you continue to play around with it.
Android, out of the box it works, and your free to play around with it and make it your own. If it wasn't for Android my HD2 would have be sold.
The touch screen and general Windows Mobile performance just pissed me off, you could triple the power of the HD2 and you still wouldn't get a smooth, slick experience.
Phil
thatruth132 said:
perfectly put but still deserved a flame or two lol
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LOL,
hmmm... yeah true it was flameworthy I suppose
NATIVE FULL ADOBE FLASH 10.1! Only available in Android.
memin1857 said:
NATIVE FULL ADOBE FLASH 10.1! Only available in Android.
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Reason enough for anyone imo.
lonelykatana said:
Reason enough for anyone imo.
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1+ on this one!
Thousands of apps straight from the marketplace, as opposed to a few hundred you have to get off the internet.
Oh, and flash.
Android is so good, why the hell did htc ship the hd2 with winmo?
Also hats off to the devs for making this possible, to use android on the best phone out there!
Good One.
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This.
If you need to ask you don't belong in this forum section. Please go back to WinMo.
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Please go back to WinMo...too funny.
i like android because of the limitless apps, you'll never need for anything again for a phone. the market was the main reason for me because most apps are free, now google maps include free navigation! windows mobile who? lol plus even with android being ported to our hd2 it out performs windows mobile, less freezes and errors. programmed to work better! internet browsing, smoother and faster. once u learn all the features and how to use widgets u will like wmo less and less. i never seen myself becoming a fan of android when i was solely against it when i had touch pro 2
Me??? Because WinMo is Sh*t. If I couldn't have loaded Android on this HD2... it would have been on Craigslist an hour after I got it.
Unless of course bloated, clunky, slow, crashing, lack luster garbage is someone's thing... l would advice them to stay away from Android.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
just an idea - if there is no "backward compability" for WM6,5 applications on WP7, then - from technical point of view - if anyone can install/move/copy the whole WM6,5 from HTC HD/HD2 to HTC HD7 or any of WP7 phones? I mean, are there any "hardwarish objections" for such operation?
The incompatibility issues alone and work required to do this would be immense
Also posted in wrong forum. All queries should be directed to General Forum which I've now moved it to
This is kinda funny, but I would love to see older OS(WM 6.1/6.5) on newer phones.
Why do we have to move to Windows Phone OS? We’re going from "pocket PC's" to "Smart Phones". That is a step backwards. I’ve got my HTC diamond 2 running perfect just want a faster phone, with HD Video cam. When I had a Samsung Omnia, I fixed all its problems by installing a moded HTC WM6.5 rom, I want a new HTC now, but hate WP7! I got into Xda's cos you can make um run how you want, WP7 is like why I hate the IPhone. I would love to get the HTC 7 Pro if I can just keep the OS I’m using on my HTC Diamond 2, its perfect now. I can’t be the only one that feels, windows phone is just windows mobile Basic.
Pleases give us our full OS back! or how's this. A choice of OS
Windows Phone X.X User
and
Windows Mobile X.X Pro
Does that make it less confusing? I really do want to know of a good 6.5 rom for the HD7 or 7 Pro are available. Thank you
P.s. what are non-phone PDA's going to run on? Is wm6.5 the last OS ever?
Windows phone 7 is a sh*t transition from windows mobile to full fledged operating system like Windows 7. WP7 sucks big time, no productivity for me.
It is all true... I'm totaly disapointed with my HT7 because of the WP7..
I need WM6.5 or at last Android on it...
Some one help us!!!
There are no devs to do this. They lack time, knowledge, drivers, blah blah.
We give them money, they won't do a sh**
Simply said, there is no community like it was few years ago. Shame.
that might be true, but nobody forced you to buy a device with an os, that you don't like, if you simply wanted to give different OSs a try, your best choice would have been a HD2, which handles wm6.5, 6.5.x, android, wp7, ubuntu, windows 95, 98 and meego. that way, if you are unsatisfied with either OS, you still have plenty of others to give a try.
I'm not a programmer, so I’m sorry if this is impossible for something I’ve not see. But couldn't someone make a rom file that you copy directly onto the inbuilt SD micro card. Of course this will mean hard resetting the phone it will install from the inbuilt Rom copy of WP7. But you just pop the card in a pc, maybe partition it 512MB program storage. And the other 14.5MB storage card (after lost formatting space.) I though the HD2 and HD7 are almost the same Xda device. Please PDA WinMobo OS's cant die! It does the most
All I want is Smartphone’s that work how I want, not how I’m told to use um.
Losing this is stepping back in time.
Thanks for reading Stu Jones
Enabling WM6.5 on HD7
Hi Guys,
I have been a PDA user and in particular a a windows mobile user for 7-8 years now. I am a total fan of modified ROMs and hats off to all those developers who have been developing modified ROMs on many various devices for many years now, I extend my appreciation and gratitude now. I have also been an xda-developers member for many years now, and have read many many posts and forum topics, so please disregard the post count as I didn't need to post in many cases.
I recently graduated; though I am a communications engineering graduate I did do embedded systems in my last year. Having said that, I am now in a position to start playing around with such devices and possibly do some development work.
I, like the people on this thread have mentioned, do not like WP7, the the fact that you cannot directly sync with outlook, and even worse, HD7 Pro has hardware keyboard that is completely useless and WP7 doesn't even go in to landscape mode unless typing up messages.
On the other hand, even though I appreciate Android, I do not like it either for various reasons I'd rather not delve in to. I am a fan of hardware keyboards, therefore I also had in my mind the possibility of porting WM6.5 to Desire Z though I have not even researched the feasibility of it yet.
Therefore, I announce to my fellow xda-developers.com users and readers of my intentions to begin work on porting WM6.5 to HD7. Though I do not have any experience or knowledge on the venture. The start will be a slow process and request the patience of everyone.
Having said that I would need a mentor when I run in to problems and when I need help. I would appreciate it if one of the more experienced developers here could express their willingness to help when needed I would be really grateful.
Having said that, those with experience, is there a good link you could give me where I could start reading up on what I need to learn about the device and the OS in question?
I presume I would need to know the specific system components of the HD7 and HD2, what components are identical, similar and different? I believe that the architecture is similar if not identical? Thanks.
Regards
Hi all, im new here to start join this site, because i just bought HTC HD2 started to use wm6.5, this site lot of information help me to choose the collect phone model before i buy it, before i was thinking of which OS is the best & use full for me, WM6.5? WP7? or Android? i need to choose the OS can support GMXT GPS its important for me travel lot, both of them WP7 & Android cant make it, so i choose HD2, i was bought 3 days ago in Vietnam HCMC, try to find best price in town, almost every sold out! get from website information for used HD2, almost sold out too, until 7th shop i get it, used but look new but is T mobile HD2, USD370 deal..
WP7 is a god send of an OS, I still use my WM oh my HD and ill come to that in a sec, but WP7 is actually very good, you do need to work with it for a while, but once you get used to it its amazing.
Now, WM 6.x is a beast of an OS, there is nothing out there quite like it, I believe in the next installment of MAGLDR they are looking to allow WM to be installed via magldr, this may open the way to allow SD/RAM builds of WM to run on a HD2 meaning, WP7, WM6.5 and android could all potentially be bootable at the same time
The differences between the HD2 and the HD7 are notable, its not a straight copy, unfortunately there is a big lack of intrest in WM so i would keep your eyes on android coming to the HD7, that will use something similar to MAGLDR and if thats the case you may find WM is installable as well.
DOnt hold your breath tho, we've been waiting for a new MAGLDR version for several months now and as i said, there are differences so there may well be serious driver related issues, which ironically is the stumbling block of WM! Had HTC and QC not shafted us with no driver support for the WM6.5 OS then it would actually be a modern day OS contender.
guys, that this up in the HD2 sectoin, this is for the Touch HD - the orginal
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guys, that this up in the HD2 sectoin, this is for the Touch HD - the orginal
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I know just being polite, someone asks, why not answer, the thread is after all already here
I have changed from a Windows Phone hater, to a Lover. Still think Win Mobile was the most advanced mobile OS ever, but WP is fast getting it all back :good:
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I now really have to say, I take back what I said. I originally posted on here saying I hated WP7 and wanted to flash to WM6.5. but since, just b4 Mango. I changed my mind. And have loved being along for the ride towards the superphones WP8. Miss MyMobiler and would be nice if you could run WM6.5 in a virtual environment on an unlocked device. Then I could still play with what I suppose are now legacy apps or .cab's as we used to know um. phone and sms wouldn't need to be in the V-OS rom as WM wasn't originally made for it just drop um. And V-drives would just appear as the app size as far as wp7 thinks just a dream/idea. I know that wouldn't be easy. but if anyone fancied the challenge advantage is it would work on all WP7> handsets
Windows Phone 7.5 is good now. If you tried it at the beginning and was thinking it was the windows iPhone. Thank god it's not!! It is diff to WM6.x but worth getting used to
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I would still like to see wm6.5 ported over along with wp8 since technically we have an sd card and we can have nfc sim cards.
There is a windows mobile emulator to wp7
http://www.xda-developers.com/windows-mobile/windows-mobile-running-on-windows-phone-7/
and here is one that maybe can be ported: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=411154
I now really have to say, I take back what I said. I originally posted on here saying I hated WP7 and wanted to flash to WM6.5. but since, just b4 Mango. I changed my mind. And have loved being along for the ride towards the superphones WP8. Miss MyMobiler and would be nice if you could run WM6.5 in a virtual environment on an unlocked device. Then I could still play with what I suppose are now legacy apps or .cab's as we used to know um. phone and sms wouldn't need to be in the V-OS rom as WM wasn't originally made for it just drop um. And V-drives would just appear as the app size as far as wp7, Post above looks like what I mean. but can't be sure if true, or someone has made MyMobiler just remote desktop a WM6 device to WP7. will keep an eye out for the .Xap
Windows Phone 7.5 is good now. If you tried it at the beginning and was thinking it was the windows iPhone. Thank god it's not!! It is diff to WM6.x but worth getting used to
PS Please help me spared my Apple Hate Page on Facebook http://www.Facebook.com/AppleBull**** (Replace **** with "S H I T" Thank You)
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WP7 is a god send of an OS, I still use my WM oh my HD and ill come to that in a sec, but WP7 is actually very good, you do need to work with it for a while, but once you get used to it its amazing.
Now, WM 6.x is a beast of an OS, there is nothing out there quite like it, I believe in the next installment of MAGLDR they are looking to allow WM to be installed via magldr, this may open the way to allow SD/RAM builds of WM to run on a HD2 meaning, WP7, WM6.5 and android could all potentially be bootable at the same time
The differences between the HD2 and the HD7 are notable, its not a straight copy, unfortunately there is a big lack of intrest in WM so i would keep your eyes on android coming to the HD7, that will use something similar to MAGLDR and if thats the case you may find WM is installable as well.
DOnt hold your breath tho, we've been waiting for a new MAGLDR version for several months now and as i said, there are differences so there may well be serious driver related issues, which ironically is the stumbling block of WM! Had HTC and QC not shafted us with no driver support for the WM6.5 OS then it would actually be a modern day OS contender.
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Hi all!
I am new on this forum and I do not know it really good, so I like to ask some questions here (hope someone will not be angry if I missed right thread for this).
1) I think I will buy HTC HD2, so for first what do you think? Is it still good phone or not? I know that Desire HD is probably better, but it is too expensive for my pocket.
2) How is with Windows Mobile 6.5, are they really bad as some people say? Is here enough apps for them etc...
3) Which OS do you guys suggest to me? WM 6.5, WP 7 or Android 2.2?
I just want phone and OS which will work smooth, detect every touch, work with minimize laggs and crashes etc. And for me it is also important that the phone would not be for trash over e.g. 2 years, because of new apps etc. And I want a lot of apps and things like that for it.
Hope you will understand my "problems", and sorry for bad English.
I would be really gratefull for any help. Thanks alot!
Best regards,
Sam.
ei mate
my thoughts...
1) I think I will buy HTC HD2, so for first what do you think? Is it still good phone or not? I know that Desire HD is probably better, but it is too expensive for my pocket.
-> the hd2 is definitely a beast of a phone as it's the most versatile and "hackable" unit around. you have wm6.5 to start with and from there you can load other operating systems on it like android, w7, etc. the desire is also quite a beast and it's a dedicated android device that's at the top of it's game. if you have budget constraints, you're off to a good start with the hd2
2) How is with Windows Mobile 6.5, are they really bad as some people say? Is here enough apps for them etc...
-> my opinion, wm6.5 was/is NOT bad. i will be honest in saying that i'm running android on my hd2 but i don't see myself jumping to w7. 6.5 is as smooth as it can be and i've made it a point to keep my old windows applications that are compatible with 6.5. yes, android has TONS of apps but there are some small ones which are still best run with 6.5 (for the moment). a lot of members here still run 6.5 and on occasion i revert back to it as well. despite my running android like 90% of the time, 6.5 is still one of the best in my opinion
3) Which OS do you guys suggest to me? WM 6.5, WP 7 or Android 2.2?
-> well, when you get a hd2 you immediately get exposed to 6.5. my suggestion, have a go with it first and get the full experience. once you're satisfied, load android and again have a go. the beauty about android for the hd2 is you can launch it from your microsd card. so if your unit crashes (and that's IF), you can always restart windows and launch android. if you're feeling a bid of adventure, you could load up win7 on it as well. i have read that many members don't like what they've experienced with w7 (in the hd2). in my opinion, the best way is to try w7 on a purely dedicated device (like a htc mozart). if you like it, then try it out for the hd2.
I just want phone and OS which will work smooth, detect every touch, work with minimize laggs and crashes etc. And for me it is also important that the phone would not be for trash over e.g. 2 years, because of new apps etc. And I want a lot of apps and things like that for it
-> let's face it, all operating systems have their own advantages and disadvantages. my wife has an iphone and i like it as well. but i'm into windows and android because it's what i like using....not because i think they're better than the iphone or w7. if you'r after a phone that will last for the next 2 years, then the hd2 should meet your requirements. wm6.5 offers tons of apps that'll enhance your experience. android is a whole new platform that is definitely worth running. and in 2 years? i'm pretty sure that the developers here in the forum would have definitely perfected loading other os's into the hd2 (w7, meego, etc...heck i'll throw in the ios as well)
Robson said:
ei mate
my thoughts...
1) I think I will buy HTC HD2, so for first what do you think? Is it still good phone or not? I know that Desire HD is probably better, but it is too expensive for my pocket.
-> the hd2 is definitely a beast of a phone as it's the most versatile and "hackable" unit around. you have wm6.5 to start with and from there you can load other operating systems on it like android, w7, etc. the desire is also quite a beast and it's a dedicated android device that's at the top of it's game. if you have budget constraints, you're off to a good start with the hd2
2) How is with Windows Mobile 6.5, are they really bad as some people say? Is here enough apps for them etc...
-> my opinion, wm6.5 was/is NOT bad. i will be honest in saying that i'm running android on my hd2 but i don't see myself jumping to w7. 6.5 is as smooth as it can be and i've made it a point to keep my old windows applications that are compatible with 6.5. yes, android has TONS of apps but there are some small ones which are still best run with 6.5 (for the moment). a lot of members here still run 6.5 and on occasion i revert back to it as well. despite my running android like 90% of the time, 6.5 is still one of the best in my opinion
3) Which OS do you guys suggest to me? WM 6.5, WP 7 or Android 2.2?
-> well, when you get a hd2 you immediately get exposed to 6.5. my suggestion, have a go with it first and get the full experience. once you're satisfied, load android and again have a go. the beauty about android for the hd2 is you can launch it from your microsd card. so if your unit crashes (and that's IF), you can always restart windows and launch android. if you're feeling a bid of adventure, you could load up win7 on it as well. i have read that many members don't like what they've experienced with w7 (in the hd2). in my opinion, the best way is to try w7 on a purely dedicated device (like a htc mozart). if you like it, then try it out for the hd2.
I just want phone and OS which will work smooth, detect every touch, work with minimize laggs and crashes etc. And for me it is also important that the phone would not be for trash over e.g. 2 years, because of new apps etc. And I want a lot of apps and things like that for it
-> let's face it, all operating systems have their own advantages and disadvantages. my wife has an iphone and i like it as well. but i'm into windows and android because it's what i like using....not because i think they're better than the iphone or w7. if you'r after a phone that will last for the next 2 years, then the hd2 should meet your requirements. wm6.5 offers tons of apps that'll enhance your experience. android is a whole new platform that is definitely worth running. and in 2 years? i'm pretty sure that the developers here in the forum would have definitely perfected loading other os's into the hd2 (w7, meego, etc...heck i'll throw in the ios as well)
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That was a very good reply. I'm currently bidding on an HD2. I have an iPhone 4, but am so bored with it. It's jailbroken to add themes right now.
My friend has an HD2 w/Windows and Android. I think that is way cool. I love to mod stuff so an iPhone for me just doesn't cut it. Although, there are a lot of good developers and applications on Cydia repositories. Anyone know if it's possible to load a mobile version of Backtrack? I see Ubuntu has been done, yes? I'm just wanting some hacking tools for pen testing. A little off topic, but...
EDIT: Anyway you should edit your title to comply with the forum rules. I just read it myself.
Look forward to this proposed HTC Pyramid, also the LG Optimus 2X looks like a cracking phone as well.
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ei mate
my thoughts...
1) I think I will buy HTC HD2, so for first what do you think? Is it still good phone or not? I know that Desire HD is probably better, but it is too expensive for my pocket.
-> the hd2 is definitely a beast of a phone as it's the most versatile and "hackable" unit around. you have wm6.5 to start with and from there you can load other operating systems on it like android, w7, etc. the desire is also quite a beast and it's a dedicated android device that's at the top of it's game. if you have budget constraints, you're off to a good start with the hd2
2) How is with Windows Mobile 6.5, are they really bad as some people say? Is here enough apps for them etc...
-> my opinion, wm6.5 was/is NOT bad. i will be honest in saying that i'm running android on my hd2 but i don't see myself jumping to w7. 6.5 is as smooth as it can be and i've made it a point to keep my old windows applications that are compatible with 6.5. yes, android has TONS of apps but there are some small ones which are still best run with 6.5 (for the moment). a lot of members here still run 6.5 and on occasion i revert back to it as well. despite my running android like 90% of the time, 6.5 is still one of the best in my opinion
3) Which OS do you guys suggest to me? WM 6.5, WP 7 or Android 2.2?
-> well, when you get a hd2 you immediately get exposed to 6.5. my suggestion, have a go with it first and get the full experience. once you're satisfied, load android and again have a go. the beauty about android for the hd2 is you can launch it from your microsd card. so if your unit crashes (and that's IF), you can always restart windows and launch android. if you're feeling a bid of adventure, you could load up win7 on it as well. i have read that many members don't like what they've experienced with w7 (in the hd2). in my opinion, the best way is to try w7 on a purely dedicated device (like a htc mozart). if you like it, then try it out for the hd2.
I just want phone and OS which will work smooth, detect every touch, work with minimize laggs and crashes etc. And for me it is also important that the phone would not be for trash over e.g. 2 years, because of new apps etc. And I want a lot of apps and things like that for it
-> let's face it, all operating systems have their own advantages and disadvantages. my wife has an iphone and i like it as well. but i'm into windows and android because it's what i like using....not because i think they're better than the iphone or w7. if you'r after a phone that will last for the next 2 years, then the hd2 should meet your requirements. wm6.5 offers tons of apps that'll enhance your experience. android is a whole new platform that is definitely worth running. and in 2 years? i'm pretty sure that the developers here in the forum would have definitely perfected loading other os's into the hd2 (w7, meego, etc...heck i'll throw in the ios as well)
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Robson I do not know how to thank you enough for this reply.
Now I know I will buy it definitely. First I will give a try WM 6.5 then Android 2.2 and maybe WP 7 too. Then I will choose.
So on Froyo phone works smooth, like Desire HD? I saw on WP 7 is phone really fast, but it's home screen looks so ugly for me. Hope developers will make some ROMs or skins, which will look like Android.
Thank you very much again!
Regards.
you're welcome, mate. once you get your unit fiddle around with it in wm6.5 first. don't jump to android just yet. once you're done with 6.5, get into android and i'm pretty sure you'll notice the difference in the interface. a few things to consider for the future:
- radio and rom upgrade (for wm6.5). if you do upgrade, make sure you read the threads first as you don't want to end up with a bricked phone
- android, there are lots of builds you can try and they're quite easy to do. you might notice the massive battery drain when you first try android out. but after fiddling and tweaking you'll get the right settings which will give you the best battery output
- w7, make sure you read the threads as it can be a little tricky
by the way, are you getting a t-mobile or the european version?
cheers
1)If you don't have the budget for a desire hd, get a desire then. It's better at android than the HD2. Meaning it will run smoother, faster, and all it's functions work.
Plus if you're horrible at tech stuff, eg READING! xD Then I plead for you to stay away from this phone, another thread made on questions answered a million times is not needed here. Especially this same one you posted here, sorry.
The HD2 is a good phone, but it isn't made for the half hearted. People who aren't ready to be devoted to their device should stay away from the HD2.
2)winmo isn't bad. In terms of functionality/efficiency, you could say it is ahead in some areas, and behind in others to other OSes. Apps is something you can check on your own, they have a marketplace.
3)I'm not you so i wouldn't know. But judging from my impression of you, I would say WP7 would be your best bet, since you seem like the type of person to get overwhelmed over HD2's modding. It's fast, smooth, and it's just like the iOS, simple! Great for you!
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But judging from my impression of you, I would say WP7 would be your best bet, since you seem like the type of person to get overwhelmed over HD2's modding. It's fast, smooth, and it's just like the iOS, simple! Great for you!
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Basically, he said you are a moron. Anyway so...no just kidding dude I'm the same way, lol. Simple works for me. However, I would like to complicate things sometimes by modding. Jailbreaking is probably elementry school compared to doing Android and Windows mods which is like PhD...
@ Kailkti, Can't he have Windows 7, but still mod other OS's not interfering with his main one. So, basically he can mod break junk and then at least load up a working OS? I guess it depends on the mod, huh?
Of course he can, he can load any of the available OSes, that the devs have ported to this device, and still revert back to the WP7. However, his aim is not to mod, his aim is just something that works. Now clearly the hd2 isn't marketed to those kinds of people, nor is android. The only OSes made for the types of people who want something that just works, is iOS and WP7. They're so simple, it's baffling that their smartphone OSes. Atleast the iOS falls in that case.
And modding on the HD2 may become overwhelming to him if his attitude is just for something that simply works. Now I'm not saying winmo doesn't work. It works great. But it won't work "great" for you since, again from my impression of you, you prolly want games, and other entertainment stuff from your phone. Now android or iOS, or even WP7 is a better choice than winmo, in such a field.
Hi all.
Today I got my HD2. Man this is a crazy good phone. And I like WM 6.5 too, no bugs, lags etc. I have also already Android on it, but first I must learn WM. I just look for a moment on Android, and it works smooth too.
I am totally happy!
Regards,
Sam.
Man, I can't wait to get mine. Still winning the bid on eBay!
saMMuel'sky said:
Hi all.
Today I got my HD2. Man this is a crazy good phone. And I like WM 6.5 too, no bugs, lags etc. I have also already Android on it, but first I must learn WM. I just look for a moment on Android, and it works smooth too.
I am totally happy!
Regards,
Sam.
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well done man, you now have 3 stable operating systems to learn, all of them with some great pros!
Thank you orangekid!
I love it for now.
But I have one problem. In Settings > SD Card & Phone Storage shows like I haven't inserted SD Card. Please for any help.
Thanks!
saMMuel'sky said:
Thank you orangekid!
I love it for now.
But I have one problem. In Settings > SD Card & Phone Storage shows like I haven't inserted SD Card. Please for any help.
Thanks!
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Sounds like you're talking about Android.
make sure your SD card is mounted (in the same menu), also make sure your SD card is formatted FAT32 for now, if you have a card reader use that to reformat the card.
Thank you! I will try to fix this problem.
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Sounds like you're talking about Android.
make sure your SD card is mounted (in the same menu), also make sure your SD card is formatted FAT32 for now, if you have a card reader use that to reformat the card.
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Can you tell me how to do this on HD2? Because I don't find nothing.
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Can you tell me how to do this on HD2? Because I don't find nothing.
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I've never done this before. To format the SD Card to FAT32 is easy.
1) Buy a SD Card Reader
2) Hook it up to your computer
3) Plug card in
4) Go to my computer
5) right click and select format
6) choose fat32 as the file system
7) done
Of course, they have multi-card readers. Would be better in case you ever get anything else down the line..hmm I may buy one that fits in the cd rom drive bay. I have an empty slot, would be cool and factory looking.
Hi.
Thanks for your effort, but I must say, that I post my problem too fast. It was my fault. I was charging it and I didn't choose right choice (Activatesync, Internet Sharing and one more thing).
Now it works fine.
Thanks anyway!
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Hi.
Thanks for your effort, but I must say, that I post my problem too fast. It was my fault. I was charging it and I didn't choose right choice (Activatesync, Internet Sharing and one more thing).
Now it works fine.
Thanks anyway!
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lol no worries, glad you got it working.
Best choice of phone, I keep looking for a phone that runs android and wp7 and maybe windows mobile, but keep coming back to the hd2, because its the only phone that can run them all.
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My new HD2 comes in tomorrow. ANd I am looking to take away the stock windows 6.5 and put either windows phone 7 or Andriod on it.
Now I come from using an iphone where i never used the ipod part of it. I did alot of gaming, and mostly organization for my job. It was a good phone book.
I dont use the internet much, so i just want to do basic browsing etc.
Im just not sure on which one is best. I have heard good things about windows 7
Now I am a mac guy, i have not had windows anything for over 10 years. So getting this windows system is it going to mess with my mac with sycing etc?
Just want to hear suggestioons. Thanks!
Apparently you can dual boot that thing
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Android for sure. Check out WP7 if we get the next update.
You will have to have Windows to flash MAGLDR or cLK which ever one you choose to go with as your bootloader. MAGLDR can boot Android and WP7, cLK can only boot Android. I suggest you have a look at the thread I linked seeing as you are running a MAC.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1039235
My question is this... what I am looking for in a phone. I dont want to have to worry about going form one OS to another.
I do not use the browser a lot. And I am not looking for many 3g apps. I am interested in apps in general.
What Im looking for is just a more organized phone. I loved my iphone for organization. I just hated how they did it (their folders suck).
I enjoy games, and i enjoy apps, dont get me wrong.
I dont facebook, i dont twitter. Mostly this phone will be used as a phone, and calendar and e-mail.
I played around with a windows 7 phone very briefly and LOVED the speed. I felt the layout would take a bit to get use to.
I never really played around with android ever. I have only seen video, and i like the fact that it has live wall paper.. other then that, I did not see anything that said use this!
I just want to make sure i get the OS that I want and is going to be best for me.
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My question is this... what I am looking for in a phone. I dont want to have to worry about going form one OS to another.
I do not use the browser a lot. And I am not looking for many 3g apps. I am interested in apps in general.
What Im looking for is just a more organized phone. I loved my iphone for organization. I just hated how they did it (their folders suck).
I enjoy games, and i enjoy apps, dont get me wrong.
I dont facebook, i dont twitter. Mostly this phone will be used as a phone, and calendar and e-mail.
I played around with a windows 7 phone very briefly and LOVED the speed. I felt the layout would take a bit to get use to.
I never really played around with android ever. I have only seen video, and i like the fact that it has live wall paper.. other then that, I did not see anything that said use this!
I just want to make sure i get the OS that I want and is going to be best for me.
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Best thing to do is just keep the Windows Mobile and dual boot Android from your SD card to getca good feel for how Android is and if you like it or not. Go to the HD2 Android SD development forums and checkout some of the SD cardcAndroid build. Also seens you mentioned games, Android has full flash support so that opens the gaming up a bit for Android. If you don't like Android you can then flash HSPL, MAGLDR, and then a WP7 ROM. Remember you will have to contact Microsoft to get a activation code to activate your live/cloud services, this includes the app market. Go to the HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A and General forums there are plenty of threads there on how to do this, it will not cost you a thing.
If you did like Android though you Can just flash Android to NAND and not WP7.
Now that is what is great about having a HTC HD2!!!!
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I dont facebook, i dont twitter. Mostly this phone will be used as a phone, and calendar and e-mail.
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In my opinion, you should go for WM6.5 or WP7.
Android is all eye candy and nonsense. Sure it can perform serious functions as well but if you want a hard working, organised OS then Microsoft is your friend.
Either that or a blackberry, but I couldn't condone that sort of behavior .......
IMO / JM2C etc....etc....
Sent From My Fingers To Your Face.....
I just edited my last message cause the GD productive text on Android. I had meant for my blue text to say "Now that is" not "Now that OS" made it mean something totally different. I absolutely hate the productive text on Android.
To each their own
You would need to BootCamp your Mac to get Windows on a partition to get Stuff Flashed
IMO Android should be the first OS to try out since you never tried it and its a lot easier to setup compared to WP7... Even thou WP7 is simplified the fact that their are bugs in WP7 like SDcard incompatibility and random restarts, there are some Android ROMS that are amazingly stable and you don't have to worry about activation to get the marketplace working
I had Gingerbread on my HD2 and it worked perfectly.. yesterday I switched back to WP7 and at first it would restart after a couple seconds but I somehow managed to get it stable and no more restarts
Sure you can stick with WM6.5 but the fact that you can load up an entire different OS that's newer will have you going crazy and in the end WM and your HD2 will part ways
Im torn between Android and WP7 but since everything is backed up in both Googles and Windows Live Servers I don't have to worry about loosing anything.. Just a matter of flashing and re-syncing
If you are into organization I will try a custom windows mobile Rom. It seems like Android and wp7 is based around entertainment. The office apps suck on wp7 and android.
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Personaly both fit your criteria. However android has a lot more apps than WP7. However you might also like the simplicity and fluidity of WP7. So my suggestion is to simply try each OS. Truthfully do you even really need to get your phone all organized just yet? Will a few days of testing really hurt your life? If not, then just take a few days to test both android and WP7.
To be completely honest with anyone who buys an hd2 just to run one operating system in my mind the big question, WHY?
the hd2 can dual boot perfectly, the hd2 has evolved into the tinker tailors mixenmatious ultimate device.
If you only want Android buy a hd desire.
If you only want wp7 buy an hd7
But if you want a device that can run them all and more, but never quite 100%, where you have to put lots of hours, time and patient into testing constantly changing tweaking and reading, asking questions, failing, crashing, frustration, confusion but overall HUGE interaction with a device. Then you came to the right device the hd2
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Also an iPhone owner here and someone who cares a lot about organization, so perhaps I could give some decent advice.
To start -- I hate Windows Phone 7. Well, perhaps 'hate' is a bit too strong. Maybe it's better to say I really, really dislike it.
The best part about it is that it's ridiculously fast and smooth (maybe even moreso than iOS) and it's a very stylish OS, but many other things are fairly poor. The 'Hubs' style of UI interface doesn't seem to work so well (things got cluttered fast). Furthermore, the Marketplace is terrible; small selection with rather expensive apps and searching through the thing is pretty unintuitive.
There's also a bunch of little annoyances that got on my nerves quickly, such as the 'Resuming' nonsense that ends up forcing me to start over in whatever app I'm using or the fact that IE only allows me to have six tabs or the fact that there's no battery percentage (and no third party app that can access the info either!). Little things like that.
To summarize my feelings, WP7 resembles Android a lot. It sucks in the beginning, but it'll probably get better later on. If you were to ask me, I would wholly recommend installing Android over WP7; Android's Market is pretty horrible compare to iOS, but overall, it's worlds better than WP7.
It also helps that Android doesn't require some sort of special microSD like WP7.
P.S. Regarding potential issues with Mac...I honestly can't offer any advice here. I own a MacBook, but I always do these kind of things on my Windows desktop.
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If you are into organization I will try a custom windows mobile Rom. It seems like Android and wp7 is based around entertainment. The office apps suck on wp7 and android.
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I Agree ......, I am using Android as it looks good and feels good to use android and lot of apps and games ... win phone 7 good but there are bugs knw like camera , no copy paste , and some other stuff that gives me a headache but win phone 7 is much faster than other roms ( for me)
for me Windows mobile 6.5 roms are good but boring
Well, im going to start with trying Android I guess for one week. then Try WP7 for one week. I guess thats the only way... I can see both sides.. but I will only know once i tried it.
If you are a person who uses mostly phone calls and texts, and data and Facebook, then there is not much problem with Windows Phone 7, but you cannot expect anything more from it. Yet to get proper messengers, tethering support, battery questionable.
Whereas Android will play a good part till the latter is developed in the coming days. Android will offer all the functionality and use your HD2 to full potential.