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Please choose carefully the developers you donate money to. I have a few I would gladly send money to, but the last one cried over spilled Nesquik and left this forum after receiving it, so the ones who have picked up where he left off, will now suffer for it. It's a damn shame too, he was becoming quite the legend, if you searched anywhere on google with the words g1, dream, and rom, his had the most hits, and videos. (Honestly, I think he just needs to get over himself, leaving for the reason he did, is just pathetic and childish) I'm not fishing for a rom update either, as there are much better roms now, just warning everyone, be sure who you are supporting, will use it in a way that benefits the community. Yes, I know I'm being a whiny jerk, but I also expect that a "hello" now and then is warranted in the forums if you are accepting money from people who don't even know you! My mistake in trusting in what I thought was a fine developer.

You decided to 'donate' out of your own free will. By donating you do not expect anything in return. He doesn't owe you anything just because you donated. Its his free time he's been putting into making those roms and I can't believe you have the nerve to expect him to always be there when you need it just because you donated.
If anything he's a 17 year old teenager. Who had lot of problems with his family and had to deal with school, work and hoardes of idiots who were demanding he update his roms.
It probably started out as fun for him but became a chore, I don't blame him for leaving, especially since the actual REASON he left was because someone he trusted betrayed him and leaked a rom that COULD have gotten someone else fired.
I suggest you keep your donations, the roms and apps are free anyway, no one is forcing you to pay them. If you want to make demands because you donated, you're missing out the whole point of it.

oogaboogah said:
Yes, I know I'm being a whiny jerk
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Good
but I also expect
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Well there's your problem. You expected something in return. That's called a payment not a donation.
My mistake in trusting in what I thought was a fine developer.
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Get over yourself.

edit: double post

A simple poke your head in the door and say "hi" is too much to ask?...yeah..ur right..I should keep it. As I said, I'm not fishing for roms, or asking for tech help, it's like giving a donation to the red cross, and then finding out they closed shop the next day. Them's the breaks I guess!!
P.S. I'm trying to get over myself, but I'm a 350+ lb. fatass, and that's proving to be a difficult task!!!

oogaboogah said:
Please choose carefully the developers you donate money to. I have a few I would gladly send money to, but the last one cried over spilled Nesquik and left this forum after receiving it, so the ones who have picked up where he left off, will now suffer for it. It's a damn shame too, he was becoming quite the legend, if you searched anywhere on google with the words g1, dream, and rom, his had the most hits, and videos. (Honestly, I think he just needs to get over himself, leaving for the reason he did, is just pathetic and childish) I'm not fishing for a rom update either, as there are much better roms now, just warning everyone, be sure who you are supporting, will use it in a way that benefits the community. Yes, I know I'm being a whiny jerk, but I also expect that a "hello" now and then is warranted in the forums if you are accepting money from people who don't even know you! My mistake in trusting in what I thought was a fine developer.
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This sounds like you are also crying over spilt milk. Get over him.

GenericNode said:
This sounds like you are also crying over spilt milk. Get over him.
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Oh crap..ur right...(takes long look in mirror, then smashes it)...I'm only 15, whatdya expect?

I can see the "yeah right, 350 lb, 15 yr old comments warming up..plz close this thread, maybe delete it, sorry I posted, delete my account.

{APOLOGY} Never meant to scam people out of their money!

I want to make my apologies to everyone who says
that I have mislead them, and to everyone who saying I put on a scam with the Leo SSPL donations thread, I APOLOGIZE! My intentions are pure.
And I didn't benefit from it, god help me, that was never the idea anyway. The only thing I got from it is a sick stomach.
There's only 1 good thing from what happened and that is that Olinex duo got some payback for their hard work.
For all people who feel betrayed and mislead and scammed, rest assured, I did not get a penny from it, it all went to the correct cause : A leo for Cmonex and some money on the side.

lucid said:
I want to make my apologies to everyone who says
that I have mislead them, and to everyone who saying I put on a scam with the Leo SSPL donations thread, I APOLOGIZE! My intentions are pure.
And I didn't benefit from it, god help me, that was never the idea anyway. The only thing I got from it is a sick stomach.
There's only 1 good thing from what happened and that is that Olinex duo got some payback for their hard work.
For all people who feel betrayed and mislead and scammed, rest assured, I did not get a penny from it, it all went to the correct cause : A leo for Cmonex and some money on the side.
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So what cry me a river.
Don't care what people say here.
You know what ur doing.

Don't hit yourself in the head m8.
the donations would have come anyways, the Dev team has earned the right and respect to recieve donations.
You where just the dude to take the initiative to raise some funds for the devs.
No harm was done.
as far as i see it an apology isn't necesary.
perhaps an advise (and this is for every1)
- Next time some1 gives a comment, act sivilized as grown-ups and don't start bashing/flaming and stuff like that.
And IF we need another fund raising for our beloved DEV's than perhaps it is wise to keep the startpost updated when the goal has been reached.
those where just my 2 cents.
T

tmaniac said:
Don't hit yourself in the head m8.
the donations would have come anyways, the Dev team has earned the right and respect to recieve donations.
You where just the dude to take the initiative to raise some funds for the devs.
No harm was done.
as far as i see it an apology isn't necesary.
perhaps an advise (and this is for every1)
- Next time some1 gives a comment, act sivilized as grown-ups and don't start bashing/flaming and stuff like that.
And IF we need another fund raising for our beloved DEV's than perhaps it is wise to keep the startpost updated when the goal has been reached.
those where just my 2 cents.
T
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Agree with tmaniac

Even the credit for making the thread a donations thread goes to 12aon, not me.
I haven't and won't take the credit for that, it's not well done.

Hi, I think it is pretty plain for all to see that some $$ would definitely be needed for someone to spend the effort doing all these things.
And I think you deserve a pat on the back for the effort for what you've done. It's certainly not a good feeling when you try to help others and get flamed yourself. Don't take it badly. It's never easy being a nice guy. I run a forum myself, so I know..

Hi Lucid,
It's great what you did and I'm sure a lot of people appriciate it.
I think you are missing the point concerning scamming because nobody accused you for that, the only thing that was asked is if you could update the thread after the goal was achieved.
No need to apologise, it's just a misunderstanding to my opinion.
Thanks!
Grtz, Leo
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Even the credit for making the thread a donations thread goes to 12aon, not me.
I haven't and won't take the credit for that, it's not well done.
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Indeed my own point wasn't about you scamming -- just about updating the thread after the goal was reached to prevent any feeling of scamming. However, it was also that you should not be rude to the first person who asked you to do just that.
Your thread and goal were good. Your English is limited and I think that caused a misunderstanding.
Rob

Too hard on yourself
Lucid,
You are being too hard on yourself. I fired you up to change the focus of the thread as I had learnt that Cmonex were struggling with one device slowing down development and putting the project at risk, given that they had nearly bricked the device several times!
All those who gave did so willingly. You only had to page to the front to see how much money was being collected. If an individual did not want to give then they are adult enough not to do so.
Those of us who have been on here a while know that if it wasn't for Olipro's sterling work, now joined by his partner, we would not have the flexible and enjoyable devices we all have.
In my view they have worked across many projects throughout the years to deliver for this community. If they get a few pounds extra out of your thread so what?
You can stand proud, you did a great job! No apology necessary.
Problem is these days is too many people come on here expecting something for nothing or even worse, create aggravation on here and contribute absolutely nothing to the shared objective of helping each other out. Wake up guys, nothing in this world is free!!.
WB

I think all parties involved have had their say. I have a feeling this thread could deteriate pretty quickly if left open.
What's done is done, and now we have explanations -- All friends again .
Dave

ok...look...lets calm down

First I'm not a mediator mod or any of that, but people we are acting like children.
1. Why are u here?
The devs on this forum are taking personal time! We as community members are not ENTITLED to ROMS. They do this for the love of the platform, so respect that.
2. This is not the Sprint forum.
Again, this forum does not imply or state that EVERYTHING is going to work with whatever ROM u choose. So really, why ***** or hate? Really?
3. What can u add?
Nobody expects anyone to be the cdma hero "hero". Everyone should know they lane and stay in it. Report bugs or dev, its that simple
I don't have the highest post count and I may be out of line but I have been studying/learning here since it was questionable if there would be a sprint hero forum. Let's not **** it up by driving away the same folks that got us here. I know that from past comments this will probably get locked, but if we don't as a whole respect more what's going on we have a chance of loosing it.
Respect to all the devs on here and the work they do, for US!

+1,000,000 Agreed,it's sad when people can't even thank someone without it turning into as bunch of un-needed bull$#17.Just be positive people,some good things are happening,don't let these people ruin things.

I don't post much here anymore, because of some personal reasons with regards to this forum. I still lurk a lot, however, and I just don't see where all the straight-up hate and animosity these posts such as yours are mentioning. I tend to avoid the 80-page threads because they are mostly filled with junk, is it in there?
Perhaps I should check them out.
The hate and animosity and watering down of this subforum with too many useless posts is why I haven't released anything since December. I'm working on a new rom for myself, and I'm thinking less and less like I might want to actually release it here. Last thing I feel like dealing with are a bunch of whiny people who aren't happy with me or my work unless it makes their phone do what THEY want. Where's the reward for devs? Don't anyone even bother mentioning donations.

Support that!

dude props for this! good going. And I agree with you 1000%

its no crime to show thanks and respect to some one for their hard work. if deving was easy we would all be doing it.

obelisk79 said:
I don't post much here anymore, because of some personal reasons with regards to this forum. I still lurk a lot, however, and I just don't see where all the straight-up hate and animosity these posts such as yours are mentioning. I tend to avoid the 80-page threads because they are mostly filled with junk, is it in there?
Perhaps I should check them out.
The hate and animosity and watering down of this subforum with too many useless posts is why I haven't released anything since December. I'm working on a new rom for myself, and I'm thinking less and less like I might want to actually release it here. Last thing I feel like dealing with are a bunch of whiny people who aren't happy with me or my work unless it makes their phone do what THEY want. Where's the reward for devs? Don't anyone even bother mentioning donations.
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This is exactly why we should respect the devs... pretty soon all of them will be gone.

You beat me to it ... but I don't really care.
I think we just got too amped up with all the 2.1 excitement and started trying to outdo oneanother instead of working together. Once the official 2.1 comes out, I think we will see a lot more collaboration to make it as good as possible. In the mean time, always five credit where it is due, and don't worry about who did what first, because it only benefits everybody. That's why our great devs are here: to help create a better device, not to profit or hoard secrets. This is the first real open source project I have been a part of, and I get excited just thinking about what the future has in store for us. Let's make it a great one!

Can we just please stop with these types of threads.

The way I look at it is like a car.
You buy the car, and you COULD just leave it at that. Some people like to mod their car and optimize it for maximum performance. Many people do not know how to do this, so they need to take it some someone who does know how, and the mechanic for damn sure isnt going to do that *** for free. I think of our devs a mechanics, optimizing my phone for me because I have no idea how to develop to my phone. The difference here is that they are doing this **** for free. So what if they ask for a donation, bums on the street ask for "donations" for doing ***. We were going to get 2.1 for free one way or another at some point since we already had the car (Hero for you thick headed people), whether it be a whole 2 days after flipz released it to contributors, or when sprint/htc officially releases it at the rumored end of this month.
And be happy this isnt a car, because if it was not only would you HAVE to pay for the official update, but you would have to pay for the installation and optimization.
Taking a *** chill pill all those people who are too stingy to even donate 1 buck.

Don't make me say the f word and post an off color picture so this thread gets shut down
just playing mods. don't hurt me.

foxracr17 said:
the way i look at it is like a car.
You buy the car, and you could just leave it at that. Some people like to mod their car and optimize it for maximum performance. Many people do not know how to do this, so they need to take it some someone who does know how, and the mechanic for damn sure isnt going to do that **** for free. I think of our devs a mechanics, optimizing my phone for me because i have no idea how to develop to my phone. The difference here is that they are doing this **** for free. So what if they ask for a donation, bums on the street ask for "donations" for doing ****. We were going to get 2.1 for free one way or another at some point since we already had the car (hero for you thick headed people), whether it be a whole 2 days after flipz released it to contributors, or when sprint/htc officially releases it at the rumored end of this month.
And be happy this isnt a car, because if it was not only would you have to pay for the official update, but you would have to pay for the installation and optimization.
Taking a ****ing chill pill all those people who are too stingy to even donate 1 buck.
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this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! .

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Can we just please stop with these types of threads.
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No kidding... I am pretty sick of hearing people explain to me why I should be grateful to the rom developers. Like saying "The devs on this forum are taking personal time!" is some enlightening way to look at it. Everyone knows that already. And it gets really old seeing people make threads like this in an effort to get brownie points around here. There are so many threads EXACTLY like this. You are pushing posts that actually have a use out of view for a lot of people.
Oh wait, I have a difference of opinion. Lets start another thread and label it disrespect to the development gods...

Thank you. And I mean that. Because of XDA and it's amazing devs, I have gotten more out of this phone than I ever imagined. I have never had a phone that could do so much and people here were always willing to help me with a problem. And that is wonderful. I am glad that I joined this forum. In fact, I look forward to checking it every day. lol I don't know a lot about Linux, Java, or coding, but I do however know a lot about photography. I am a professional. So, if anyone needs help that way, I am completely for helping...I mean, all of you have helped me...I'd like to return the favor.
-Ken

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No kidding... I am pretty sick of hearing people explain to me why I should be grateful to the rom developers. Like saying "The devs on this forum are taking personal time!" is some enlightening way to look at it. Everyone knows that already. And it gets really old seeing people make threads like this in an effort to get brownie points around here. There are so many threads EXACTLY like this. You are pushing posts that actually have a use out of view for a lot of people.
Oh wait, I have a difference of opinion. Lets start another thread and label it disrespect to the development gods...
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Actually that wasn't my point at all. My point is threads like this do nothing but divert attention to them, it perpetuates the negativity. New users come in these threads and see this and "ask what I missed" then it gets started over and over again.
As soon as these threads die (yes I realize I bump when I reply) the drama will also follow. Donate, dont donate, dev, dont dev ( not really) but just treat each other like some one you would walk by on the street or have a conversation with while standing in a line.

Asking for your cake and eating it 2.
I dont post alot here as well due to personal issues here on the form (so many smarty pants people on here)
But if i see a rom that i like (or app) i give the dev his props and thank him for putting in hard work when he or she could of been doing something else not trying please us and make our phones better then the stock ones.
Not saying the next person have to do the same. But if i wasted 5hrs of my time. and your running around showing off with my work i would like some props.
This dont even have nothng to do with roms or dev so im sure its going to get closed down soon. You people are just wasting your time making these threads people going to do what they going to do.

It's true that these type of threads may seem senseless and get hijacked to negativity... but in the past, my experience is that when moderators and dev's get fed up enough the forum/site would become closed and open to invitation only type membership, i.e., PRIVATE ACCESS!
That scenario is both good and bad... "Good" if you're in the loop, but potentially "Bad" because you just might end up on the outside looking in with your nose pressed against the window! So PROPS it is...
I have come to XDA for a long time, joined only so I could post, and only recently began to do so. But, that said, it has been indispensable for the provision of knowledge and fixes for handsets that the manufacturers and or carriers are unable to do themselves... so again - PROPS it is... no reason to drag it down.
+++++1,000 thanks to the awesome work being done!
There are those who truly can never be pleased, yet, I think that ration is extremely small. So again, for something I would gladly pay for, but am not required to do, I offer the easiest thing, a gesture of THANKS!

Donating to devs for the ROMs they make.

First let me say I'm all for it and very appreciative that those of you can cook these and share with those of us who can't. I also realize you're quite busy with RL, etc.
Having said this though, it might be nice if you acknowledged it when people make a donation, even if it's small, perhaps via email. The world doesn't need to see but just seems like mutual respect to me. I've actually made a couple donations now which I was happy to do but the only acknowledgment I even received was the automated PayPal one saying it had been made.
It's also a way to encourage more to donate and repeat donations! Something to think about Devs.

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First let me say I'm all for it and very appreciative that those of you can cook these and share with those of us who can't. I also realize you're quite busy with RL, etc.
Having said this though, it might be nice if you acknowledged it when people make a donation, even if it's small, perhaps via email. The world doesn't need to see but just seems like mutual respect to me. I've actually made a couple donations now which I was happy to do but the only acknowledgment I even received was the automated PayPal one saying it had been made.
It's also a way to encourage more to donate and repeat donations! Something to think about Devs.
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I don't claim to be a developer, yet, but I have received a couple of donations and I emailed them and posted in thread. I'd like to think that I would do that for every donation that I'll ever receive. I agree that some type of personal response should be received.

I agree, but at the same time I know they can get busy... I have gotten a response the times I have donated. It is a great feeling to donate, and get that acknowledgement back that it was received.

It's like when you're in traffic and you let someone over in front of you, and you just want that wave in return.
LOL!

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It's like when you're in traffic and you left someone over in front of you, and you just want that wave in return.
LOL!
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Well Put! LOL! I have recieved thank you emails also.

Amen to that! I do "thank you" boot animations and custom splash screens for my donors (^_^)>b
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I have received either an email or a thank you post every time even though I did not do so expecting anything in return - that was just my way of saying thanks. To be honest I don't necessarily agree that the devs should say thanks back or acknowledge anything.
They are already doing their stuff for free. We should be thanking them for their efforts. It would be nicer if they listen closely to those who donated and help them out whenever possible. This way we would not be paying them for modification of open source code but instead for their consulting help in making the ROMs work better for us.

All very good points. But also if you donate let the devs know that you sent them a donation and that you appreciate their work. That way they see it sooner (since I'm sure they're not sitting there looking for who donated to them today) and they'll send you a thank you in return. Also paypal names might be different than xda nicks.
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It's also a way to encourage more to donate and repeat donations! Something to think about Devs.
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I have to strongly agree! Even if it is set up as an automated response it would be better than a simple PayPal confirmation.
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It's like when you're in traffic and you let someone over in front of you, and you just want that wave in return.
LOL!
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Excellent point! Taking your example...
How does it make you feel when you do let someone in (the right thing to do) and they don't even so much as acknowledge you? I know how it makes me feel
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To be honest I don't necessarily agree that the devs should say thanks back or acknowledge anything.
They are already doing their stuff for free. We should be thanking them for their efforts.
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And what better way of thanking them than making a donation!
An old adage that has always worked for me...
"Business comes where it is welcomed - And returns where it is appreciated"
I have been on both ends of this thing, back in my WinMo days I created 400+ themes (home screens) in the Motorola Q forums and I can tell you from experience the donations are not going to make anyone rich!
If I had just $1.00 for every home screen I made for the Q that was downloaded I could have retired a long time ago. And that is no exaggeration!
Anything that would encourage people to donate is a good thing, these devs definitely deserve it!
Just my 2 cents worth.

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It's like when you're in traffic and you let someone over in front of you, and you just want that wave in return.
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Quite true! Then again you always get those people behind them trying to shove their way in... like no ever used a zipper before?
KGBxxx said:
All very good points. But also if you donate let the devs know that you sent them a donation and that you appreciate their work. That way they see it sooner (since I'm sure they're not sitting there looking for who donated to them today) and they'll send you a thank you in return. Also paypal names might be different than xda nicks.
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Very good point! I know my PayPal is different than my forum names. I typically try to put my name in a memo when I tip via PayPal though.
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Even though I posted my response, should'nt this be in the general section?

khanam said:
I have received either an email or a thank you post every time even though I did not do so expecting anything in return - that was just my way of saying thanks. To be honest I don't necessarily agree that the devs should say thanks back or acknowledge anything.
They are already doing their stuff for free. We should be thanking them for their efforts. It would be nicer if they listen closely to those who donated and help them out whenever possible. This way we would not be paying them for modification of open source code but instead for their consulting help in making the ROMs work better for us.
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i do agree with your whole post, but what discourages me is that i've donated a few times, and the question remains - whats the advantage??
i've offered dough for helping with real simple rom - no themes...
gotten no replies...
i've donated when i was under the belief of being kept "in the loop" for testing, early releases ect...
and never got anything... nor did i "request" special treatment
so basically, i feel from now on, i'm only donating for "personal" service, or until i get a rom i choose to stick with
sorry, but moneys tight for me, i cant afford to toss a five spot out for each new rom i try - specially when i o nly test it for a few hours sometimes...

I've donated to the same developer twice within the last month ($5 each time) because I appreciate his ROMs.
To date, I haven't received any kind of response beyond the Paypal notification.
Maybe he is just too busy, but it makes me wonder a few things...
- Is he already getting so many donations that it isn't worth his time to answer them?
- Was the amount I gave not appreciated?
- Was it so small as to go unnoticed?
I think the traffic analogy is a solid one. I gave the donations because I felt like they were the right thing to do. That said, not getting any kind of acknowledgment whatsoever left a bit of a sour taste in my mouth.
This experience won't affect my future decisions on donating to other developers, but I doubt that I will donate to the same developer a third time.

I've donated to just about every ROM I used for more than 3 days ... CyanoGen, rEVOlution, Virtuous, etc... usually 20-25$ or something like that. I have yet to get any form of acknowledgement but I didn't expect one either. I donate because I appreciate getting fast and stable ROMS so I'd rather know that those people are busy doing what they like which is programming roms versus spending 2 days a week replying to emails and sending personalized thank you notes.
Of course I would enjoy a little candy like a ROM with an extra feature or just a little something extra for my donation.

MotoDj said:
i do agree with your whole post, but what discourages me is that i've donated a few times, and the question remains - whats the advantage??
i've offered dough for helping with real simple rom - no themes...
gotten no replies...
i've donated when i was under the belief of being kept "in the loop" for testing, early releases ect...
and never got anything... nor did i "request" special treatment
so basically, i feel from now on, i'm only donating for "personal" service, or until i get a rom i choose to stick with
sorry, but moneys tight for me, i cant afford to toss a five spot out for each new rom i try - specially when i o nly test it for a few hours sometimes...
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Nic2112 said:
I've donated to just about every ROM I used for more than 3 days ... CyanoGen, rEVOlution, Virtuous, etc... usually 20-25$ or something like that. I have yet to get any form of acknowledgement but I didn't expect one either. I donate because I appreciate getting fast and stable ROMS so I'd rather know that those people are busy doing what they like which is programming roms versus spending 2 days a week replying to emails and sending personalized thank you notes.
Of course I would enjoy a little candy like a ROM with an extra feature or just a little something extra for my donation.
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Exactly. Just some extra unlocked features for donators would be nice....
Why are the freeloaders getting the ROM at the same time and with the same features and functionality if we are helping with paying for hosting, and other costs etc?

How to make this community better :)

What is happening to this community?
What is with all the complaining ALL the time? This community is falling apart and we are all responsible for that. It seems all anyone ever does is complain about EVERY little tiny thing... We actually have it pretty good. Most of the Epic users will be on stock ROM's for the life of their phones. We have the opportunity to use, create and share something much better. The developers here at XDA are top notch and clearly do a better job then both Sprint and Samsung seem to be capable of...and yet we still find things to complain about and people to criticize. Why is that??
Speaking of the developers here, they put a HUGE amount of time and sometimes money (hosting ect) into providing all of us something truly useful and a big step up from what we would otherwise be stuck with. The attitude of "entitlement" needs to shift to something more like being "grateful" for what is provide here, FREE of charge.
Sure some developers have an off XDA website but so what. If it doesn't violate the rules then WHO CARES. Speaking for myself ONLY, I have very good reasons for redirecting (and I do believe I meet the requirements) traffic to my blog and they don't revolve around money. If you don't like the "inconvenience" of being redirected then don't use my ROM's. I can't please everyone..no matter how hard I may try. The way I personally view it is if I can find the time in my life to put this stuff together for anyone that wants to use it then you should be able to find the extra few minutes it takes click the link and follow it to my blog. That is the only thing I ask for all the time I freely give to this.
Quite frankly, we as the members of the XDA community need to reevaluate things. The developers DONATE their time (and some have precious little of it) and energy to HELP all of you... This whole "entitled" attitude and the "God complexes" some people have developed is a bit disturbing. I won't speak for anyone but myself but in my opinion, the sheer amount of time that goes into these releases completely eclipses the few minutes it takes to redirect to another site for a link (again as long as it doesn't violate the rules). Instead of complaining about EVERYTHING be GRATEFUL your not stuck on a stock ROM....
Many people can't even be bothered to click the Thanks button or read the directions.. I personally like helping you all out if my limited knowledge can be useful but I'm starting to become to frustrated to care anymore and I do really try to stay positive. All of this drama revolves around a phone....a phone people. There are WAY bigger things going on around you right now to get this worked up about a phone..... If you need some perspective on life please feel free to read my blog.
We can do better... I know we are all capable of better... When crap threads get started don't dignify them by commenting, just move past it. Report it if you want and more on... We should all take some pride in all the accomplishments this community achieved.
For my part, I will continue to help, learn and contribute to this community while spreading Autism Awareness..... What will you do?

Amen brother!

Gotta agree with you 100%. I came from another forum and a WinMo phone, and the community was much more supportive and friendly. The only reason I stay is because of a few excellent developers here. Not sure why XDA is getting so unpleasant, but we could use a little more tolerance here.
(Hope that doesn't get me banned)

Well said. Its all free why complain. I am not a developer but I have tried every rom on here and it seems to me most of the roms have a little bit of work from all the devs......so why the bickering. I also have to imagine most devs do this as kind of a hobby, why else do it there is almost nothing to be gained other than the challenge of improving on something that a manufacturer didn't get quite right (not baashing sammy every phone has its own issues or xda probably wouldn't be so popular).
That being said I just started using midnight, nice rom man. But besides that I started reading your blog about a month ago, it really makes me step back and take a look at things differently. I don't post much on this site cuz I have little to actually contribute but your right there are bigger things than a rom to get worked up over.
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA Premium App

I think you and all the devs do an awesome job personally. Honestly any problem I've ever had has been solved just by searching for literally less then 5 minutes. I hardly need to ask questions because the devs and testers are so quick to answer any question. I absolutely LOVE how my phone runs and works.
Any negative threads I just...ignore. No point in them really.
So ya THANKS to you and all the devs.

I know when i was on my tp2 and flashing roms even tho how much a pos that phone was compared to this amazing phone we have now and the awesome roms we have
i have been happy and not complaining about anything on my epic.
If people dont like samsung then go buy something else i personally been fed up with htc hardware..
As for redirecting to sites, i have no problem doing that a all and i like reading your blog @ptfdmedic i always goto your site if im looking for a flashable zip or news, even tho i dont use your rom
i appreciate all your hard work and your autism awareness.
This community is for people who want to experiment with your phone and make it better, so if you happen to have an issue dont complain instead search read instructions and dont be lazy and ***** at samsung software glitches and what not considering our amazing developers here usually have some fixes within a few hours of the bug report.
AMAZING
Thanks to all the developers
For making my epic truly epic and better then any phone out atm.

Agreed!!
As for me not much i can do but give sexual favors....

The issues described reflect a larger societal issue. We cannot change people, so the best tools are forum moderators and users setting a good example.

iSaint said:
As for me not much i can do but give sexual favors....
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u say this after you take your so called "Toothpaste" ad out of your signature. lmao

I agree with you pftmedic. Thanks for that speech. I hope.more.people will read it and realize what you said. Why get worked up cause you have to.make 2 extra clicks to download a rom for FREE!! I also wanted to say that I.love reading your blogs Rob and my prayers are with you and your family. I really enjoyed the story about the man at the grocery store. That was very touching and you had me emotional. I know your goal is to try to get autism awareness out there so people can understand it. I don't know anyone that has autism so I never really knew about it. I just wanted to let u know that you opened up my eyes to autism and I.live reading your stories. Thanks for being such an inspiration to us when we are feeling overwhelmed with something. I will continue to pray for you and your family and God bless your little angels.
Sent From My Evo Killer!

iSaint said:
Agreed!!
As for me not much i can do but give sexual favors....
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...comedic relief.....

Perhaps sometimes people need a place to vent and work out their stress. I know, do it elsewhere, not here......

Thank you for saying what a lot of us have been thinking.

Its always been this unpleasant with the exception of a few brief periods.. Its just the nature of the Epic community.

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Its always been this unpleasant with the exception of a few brief periods.. Its just the nature of the Epic community.
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I agree but that doesn't mean we have to continue making the same mistakes.
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. So if we want better then we need to change things up a bit.

ptfdmedic said:
I agree but that doesn't mean we have to continue making the same mistakes.
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. So if we want better then we need to change things up a bit.
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Well said my friend
Sent From My Epic Bonsai Tree

Thanks, it is appreciated. I agree with the complaints thing. It's part of the reason I don't post too often. Except to thank.

Yea i was "joking"

Keepin it Constructive
Thanks buddy - well said! Hope this connects with the right folks.

Well said ptfdmedic, I agree that there are many people who feel entitled here. Maybe I come across that way without feeling like I do but I try my best not to. I don't hit the thanks button much but I am fairly new here and I am not used to it. As for redirecting to your site, I actually like being redirected there, I read 50 pages of your blog the other night and it was eyeopening. My father works in special-ed and the kids he works with are at Eliot's level, it was interesting to read just how further the continuum goes.