Ok i was wondering if these specs will be able to run hero smoothly when its rootable?
RAM 192 MB DDR (includes 64MB baseband chip)
All depends on which ROM you are planning to use and whether you are going to run compcache and so on. It might run fairly well on your device when it is root-able, but why not save the question for that time...
I know that google has said you need 1 ghz and 512 megs of ram (and a bigger screen) to run gingerbread, but do you think there is any chance a slimmed down version could make it's way to the HTC magic?
Or is the HTC magic with 2.2 froyo the most advanced we'll get until we go for another upgrade?
I mean, considering the fact that the HTC magic doesn't even have a graphics processor, it's horribly out of date and runs poorly, so an upgrade is certainly worth it.
There's no sure information what I have found on the matter, but maybe yes - but it needs a lot of work, for all the differences.
Even if the SDK derived sneak peek rom seems to work somehow, IDK if it really could be ported.
I'm satisfied with Froyo & and it's features right now.. But OFC would like to donate to those who would port. CM would be best?
The Mytouch 4g vs a lot of others phones has a whole 4GB of rom.
After I rooted it and installed Royal Ginger 2.1 on it, I saw I only have a little over 1GB for all my apps. Meaning that the OS takes up 3.6GB(formatted) - 1.2GB(Around) = 2.4GB ....
Is there anyway to get more user space? Some phones only come with 512MB of Rom so how are they able to load so much into 512 when we have 4GB and most of it not usable.
Honestly, I think 1GB is fine, just does not add up for me
I think when you see manufacturers talk rom size it's the amount available to the user. So 512MB after os allocation.
so when mytouch 4g says 4GB it means? 4GB to user?
the 4 gigs are supposed to be for the system and any read only data, or apps that don't like being on the SD Card. Even with a hundred apps, it should still be enough. What you'd really want is a larger SD card, and you'll be living in harmony.
No 4GB total of which 1.1 available.
Desire for 512MB of which 100 or less available to user.
Rest is storage + cache.
Desire canbe changed VIA hboot. If same can be done to glacier, im sûre u'll find the remaining space.
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so when mytouch 4g says 4GB it means? 4GB to user?
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Had that backwards, sorry
Any build prop tweaks or minfree settings or suggestions in general
What are you trying to do? Ram is fixed and android handles it pretty efficiently.
I am trying to get as much free RAM as possible on stock rooted. Do you have any suggestions?
To further clarify, I wish to do this at the system level, VS using greenify or other 3rd party solution.
Free ram is useless ram. Don't worry about it. Android handles it well.
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Free ram is useless ram. Don't worry about it. Android handles it well.
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I do appreciate that you think you're helping with your answers, but I do have my reasons for needing and wanting the RAM, so I would appreciate it if instead of answering with your opinion on the matter, if you could provide an actual answer to the question. To provide further details, I do not believe samsung has their memory management down. On stock rooted (and majorly debloated) I should have more than 1gb of RAM free. I have used custom ROMs with bigger system partitions that managed to have up to 1.6 free when in idle. That, coupled with in my personal experience, with more RAM available, it provides better performance. Surely this is some how possible on stock as well.
I used to know how to edit the build.prop back in GB days...or I used a minfree manager? I'm not sure what the appropriate procedure for this would be on JB.
Get build prop editor and go for it then.
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It isn't an opinion. It is a proven fact that unused RAM is wasted RAM. Look it up. This isn't GB. The system takes up a ton of stuff. You should not have over 1GB of free RAM, even on an out of the box S4. You can get it with heavy tweaks and a custom ROM, but you have to be able to find that stuff.
Also, there are many guides that would help you if you took the time to find them instead of posting a question that has been answered before.
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It isn't an opinion. It is a proven fact that unused RAM is wasted RAM. Look it up. This isn't GB. The system takes up a ton of stuff. You should not have over 1GB of free RAM, even on an out of the box S4. You can get it with heavy tweaks and a custom ROM, but you have to be able to find that stuff.
Also, there are many guides that would help you if you took the time to find them instead of posting a question that has been answered before.
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I havent attempted to refute the fact that unused RAM is wasted RAM, only that the more RAM available, the better the user experience. When I was speaking of opinions, I was referring to his ideals that I shouldnt worry about it. I can if I want, especially considering I do believe being able to achieve 1.4 or 1.6 free ram on stock rom will provide a great stable user experience.
I realize this isnt GB. This is why I posted this thread, to inquire and learn. I certainly see no reason why I shouldnt be able to reach over a 1GB of ram with root. I am not speaking in regards to an "out of the box s4". I am speaking in regards to heavy tweaks, which is EXACTLY what I've been inquiring about.
If there are so many guides that pertain to my specific question, why dont you cite a source and put your money where your mouth is. You really believe I havent been sitting on google trying to figure it out myself? Maybe instead of adding to what you consider to be a waste of a thread that has been answered before, perhaps you could end the thread with an answer instead of cockiness.
As a "recognized contributor" I would think you would have a little more poise when interacting with other members.
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I havent attempted to refute the fact that unused RAM is wasted RAM, only that the more RAM available, the better the user experience. When I was speaking of opinions, I was referring to his ideals that I shouldnt worry about it. I can if I want, especially considering I do believe being able to achieve 1.4 or 1.6 free ram on stock rom will provide a great stable user experience.
I realize this isnt GB. This is why I posted this thread, to inquire and learn. I certainly see no reason why I shouldnt be able to reach over a 1GB of ram with root. I am not speaking in regards to an "out of the box s4". I am speaking in regards to heavy tweaks, which is EXACTLY what I've been inquiring about.
If there are so many guides that pertain to my specific question, why dont you cite a source and put your money where your mouth is. You really believe I havent been sitting on google trying to figure it out myself? Maybe instead of adding to what you consider to be a waste of a thread that has been answered before, perhaps you could end the thread with an answer instead of cockiness.
As a "recognized contributor" I would think you would have a little more poise when interacting with other members.
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It is impossible to have more than 3 quarters of the RAM free on a stock S4. I have a heavily tweaked custom TW ROM and get 1.15 GB free on average. You are asking for a bit too much. You will have to drop the stock ROM if you are not on MF3 and go with a highly tweaked, non TW based ROM and a great kernel to get close to what you want.
I personally use SHOStock ROM 2.2, Ktoonz latest TW kernel with KTweaks with the recommended settings, turbo ZRAM, Greenify and Battery Guru to maximize my system. At this current moment, I have 865 MB/1.78 GB RAM.
All of these items are easily found in google or on the first page of the General section, The QA Section, The Games and APP Section, the Original Development section, or the Development section Of this exact forum. Why should I post something for you that is right under your nose? For what you are looking for, Google is not a good source. You will not find one single thing that will help you. You need multiple items and lots of time to fine tune your system. Google is only good for finding one or 2 things unless you know how to use key words.
As a Recognized Contributor, I have been excessively helpful to thousands of people on XDA. I would not have the title if it were untrue. I do however find your original attitude towards jd1639 to be a bit uncalled for. All the answers were on par because your question was not very clear to begin with.
Lets put it this way. You need a complete overhaul to get even close to the amount of memory you seek. It is impossible to have that much free RAM on a TW based ROM. It would be a close call on any non TW based ROM, and I doubt you would even get there.
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It is impossible to have more than 3 quarters of the RAM free on a stock S4. I have a heavily tweaked custom TW ROM and get 1.15 GB free on average. You are asking for a bit too much. You will have to drop the stock ROM if you are not on MF3 and go with a highly tweaked, non TW based ROM and a great kernel to get close to what you want.
I personally use SHOStock ROM 2.2, Ktoonz latest TW kernel with KTweaks with the recommended settings, turbo ZRAM, Greenify and Battery Guru to maximize my system. At this current moment, I have 865 MB/1.78 GB RAM.
All of these items are easily found in google or on the first page of the General section, The QA Section, The Games and APP Section, the Original Development section, or the Development section Of this exact forum. Why should I post something for you that is right under your nose? For what you are looking for, Google is not a good source. You will not find one single thing that will help you. You need multiple items and lots of time to fine tune your system. Google is only good for finding one or 2 things unless you know how to use key words.
As a Recognized Contributor, I have been excessively helpful to thousands of people on XDA. I would not have the title if it were untrue. I do however find your original attitude towards jd1639 to be a bit uncalled for. All the answers were on par because your question was not very clear to begin with.
Lets put it this way. You need a complete overhaul to get even close to the amount of memory you seek. It is impossible to have that much free RAM on a TW based ROM. It would be a close call on any non TW based ROM, and I doubt you would even get there.
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you have contradicted yourself several times in your reply, friend. From the answers being on the first page to google not being a good source. From claiming to have knowledge of threads pertaining to my question, to the answers arent available at all. Well which is it? I have no problem overhauling my system, im asking how to do that. I have run TW roms that were capable of this even on my s3 sl clearly it is possible. Perhaps I will PM a few devs, but there is no reason I shouldnt be able to post in the q & a section with a q that has clearly never been answered, and expect more responses than the ideologies of unused RAM vs wasted RAM.
so thanks for your contribution
You miss understand my answers. I'm done here. If you are unwilling to take my obvious attempt to give you a little edge in the right direction, I am unwilling to further discuss this.
Actually... One last thing. If you are on MF3,you are screwed and can't do anything to get even close to what you want. You will be stuck on stock. I suggest not trying to tweak anything because if you mess up, you can't fix it.
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You miss understand my answers. I'm done here. If you are unwilling to take my obvious attempt to give you a little edge in the right direction, I am unwilling to further discuss this.
Actually... One last thing. If you are on MF3,you are screwed and can't do anything to get even close to what you want. You will be stuck on stock. I suggest not trying to tweak anything because if you mess up, you can't fix it.
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Well apparently bricked mf3 phones can now be fixed at best buy with a Samsung service center...they have the ability to reflash mf3
And to the OP, I don't really know how to help you get more ram other than debloating the phone and stopping all the special s functions. However like everyone else has said there is no reason for more free ram. Any speed up you notice by free ram is a placebo. In the days of GB free ram did mean better performance but not anymore. You say you notice less lag on custom ROMs and you assume its related to the more ram being available, however its most likely due to tweaks the dev has applied to their ROM, whether its CPU oc, animation tweaks or whatever.
Here is what I suggest, which ever ROM you're referring to that had great performance. Contact that dev and ask what tweaks he had applied, than re-apply those tweaks to your device.
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I have gotten mine rooted recently.installed titanium and uninstalled or frozed useless apps.like service provider apps and Samsung extras like gestures and stuff. I can get 1gb free ram..I don't know if its worth it but I use advanced task killer to free up mem.or go to deleoper settings and limit the number of running apps
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The model number is N900A. I did get my phone through AT&T. I've heard that there are some serious problems rooting and installed roms etc through AT&T and Verizon. The Note 3 is my first Android device and I would have to say I'm in love with this phone. What I'm not in love with are all these apps and other nonsense running in my background. I hear rooting and installing different roms can solve this. I have used Clean Master from the app store to clear cache and free up RAM, but moments later these same apps open right back up. The Note 3 has 2.4GB of RAM available, correct? I haven't put much on this phone in the way of apps. I did put some music and bought one app to change the icons on my phone. When I check Clean Master, I'm always using between 1.6-1.8GB of RAM. Thinking to myself, "what is the purpose of Clean Master if all of these annoying apps just open themselves back up?"
Other thoughts would be:
How much RAM will I free up by rooting(assuming of course it's possible)and installing a fairly simple ROM to change the overall look and feel? I'm looking for simplicity. Just want something that works, doesn't eat a lot of my RAM, and isn't known for a lot of bugs/issues.
I'm hoping some of this information helps someone help me. I'm currently running 4.3. I've also researched some of the positives and negatives of rooting and installing roms. It seems worth it if I can free up some RAM and get rid of all these apps and such running in the background.
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The model number is N900A. I did get my phone through AT&T. I've heard that there are some serious problems rooting and installed roms etc through AT&T and Verizon. The Note 3 is my first Android device and I would have to say I'm in love with this phone. What I'm not in love with are all these apps and other nonsense running in my background. I hear rooting and installing different roms can solve this. I have used Clean Master from the app store to clear cache and free up RAM, but moments later these same apps open right back up. The Note 3 has 2.4GB of RAM available, correct? I haven't put much on this phone in the way of apps. I did put some music and bought one app to change the icons on my phone. When I check Clean Master, I'm always using between 1.6-1.8GB of RAM. Thinking to myself, "what is the purpose of Clean Master if all of these annoying apps just open themselves back up?"
Other thoughts would be:
How much RAM will I free up by rooting(assuming of course it's possible)and installing a fairly simple ROM to change the overall look and feel? I'm looking for simplicity. Just want something that works, doesn't eat a lot of my RAM, and isn't known for a lot of bugs/issues.
I'm hoping some of this information helps someone help me. I'm currently running 4.3. I've also researched some of the positives and negatives of rooting and installing roms. It seems worth it if I can free up some RAM and get rid of all these apps and such running in the background.
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This one is the International Note 3 forum.
You should focus on the specific AT&T Note 3 forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-att
IcyRhythms said:
The model number is N900A. I did get my phone through AT&T. I've heard that there are some serious problems rooting and installed roms etc through AT&T and Verizon. The Note 3 is my first Android device and I would have to say I'm in love with this phone. What I'm not in love with are all these apps and other nonsense running in my background. I hear rooting and installing different roms can solve this. I have used Clean Master from the app store to clear cache and free up RAM, but moments later these same apps open right back up. The Note 3 has 2.4GB of RAM available, correct? I haven't put much on this phone in the way of apps. I did put some music and bought one app to change the icons on my phone. When I check Clean Master, I'm always using between 1.6-1.8GB of RAM. Thinking to myself, "what is the purpose of Clean Master if all of these annoying apps just open themselves back up?"
Other thoughts would be:
How much RAM will I free up by rooting(assuming of course it's possible)and installing a fairly simple ROM to change the overall look and feel? I'm looking for simplicity. Just want something that works, doesn't eat a lot of my RAM, and isn't known for a lot of bugs/issues.
I'm hoping some of this information helps someone help me. I'm currently running 4.3. I've also researched some of the positives and negatives of rooting and installing roms. It seems worth it if I can free up some RAM and get rid of all these apps and such running in the background.
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If you want to free up ram, you don't need to root, just update to 4.4.2 ( assuming it's already released by your carrier ). On the other hand having a different look and feel as well as gaining some performance, fits the bill of rooting and installing a custom rom. I don't see CF auto root supports rooting your phone but at&t users use what they call safestrap to bypass the locked bootloader and install custom roms. Have a read in the at&t section about it.