Database Users

Any heard they have a rumor about gingerbread being release november 11

But is that for the evo I need to no
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App

If it was, I'm sure it would be for the Nexus One.
Sent from my HTC Evo 4G using XDA app.

Im wondering if its just the sdk or the source. If its just the sdk its pretty much a emulator and software tools for app developers. If its the source then that would be perfect. We could start building aosp gingerbread for the Evo.
gave up on 8pening from my supersonic on the xda app.

Also im sure its done for the n1. The offical google phone always gets first treat.
gave up on 8pening from my supersonic on the xda app.

getting my donation money ready for cyanogen and friends.
personally, i just dont see how there can be a major overhaul of graphics and performance with such small amount of time between froyo and ginger.
but i hope to be proved wrong, we just havent gotten any major news about this iteration unlike froyos announcement of its super speedup tweaks.

jkinnison90 said:
If it was, I'm sure it would be for the Nexus One.
Sent from my HTC Evo 4G using XDA app.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
why in the world would the outdated nexus one get gingerbread?

Because the n1 always get stuff first. Matter fact it was most likely the test phone for it. Its the only dev phone out. Googles offical dev phone.
gave up on 8pening from my supersonic on the xda app.

Oh ok I think it did say something about sdk
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App

TorxT3D said:
getting my donation money ready for cyanogen and friends.
personally, i just dont see how there can be a major overhaul of graphics and performance with such small amount of time between froyo and ginger.
but i hope to be proved wrong, we just havent gotten any major news about this iteration unlike froyos announcement of its super speedup tweaks.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Gingerbread won't be as big of a jump as some think. Honeycomb will be the big jump.
gave up on 8pening from my supersonic on the xda app.

n1 is still highly used in alot of university tech demos and concept technologies... its basically a cheap small computer with alot of sensors
case in point, the n1 in rocket launching for accelerometer and sensor data, etc.
i would say its still holding its own very well.
i would also hope its the testbed for all future android iterations, because if it runs good on that phone, then it'll run AWESOME on our evo phones.

TorxT3D said:
i would also hope its the testbed for all future android iterations, because if it runs good on that phone, then it'll run AWESOME on our evo phones.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Why? They have the same CPU (well, we have the CDMA variation if you want to be exact), same GPU, and same amount of RAM. If anything the Nexus One will run better since their kernels are usually more optimized because they come from Google.
As for not being a big leap, I think UI wise it will be. Expect a newer, darker theme and more animations/effects. I think that it'll look like a mash up between Froyo, the newer voice actions pop ups, the ASOP 3d gallery app, the YouTube app, and Google TV. I also expect hardware acceleration for the UI to be introduced.
Speaking of hardware acceleration, I'm actually kind of worried about how the EVO will perform here. I had a low end Sprint Optimus S, Epic 4G, and my EVO 4G on hand today. I wanted to see how each performed when using the 3D Gallery app and the EVO was pretty choppy.
The Epic's GPU is obviously good so its no surprise that it had no problems. The Optimistic S has a past gen 600 MHz CPU and the same Adreno 200 GPU as the EVO (which really makes a statement: our GPU is in a $50 budget phones), the lower resolution also helps and it ended up running the app very smoothly. The higher resolution of the EVO and the Adreno 200 was as I said choppy. Simple things like popping up the menu were choppy and unattractive even when only 1 photo was in the gallery...
I really hope Google has something up their sleeves. I can't imagine them releasing a choppy UI on the Nexus One which is essentially the same as the EVO performance wise. At least I hope so.
Sent from my PC36100 using Tapatalk

The best thing that gingerbread will bring is VOIP using google voice number. If it works anything like the client thats part of gmail.com that would be cool.

http://androidandme.com/2010/11/news/latest-google-maps-provides-a-small-gingerbread-treat/
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
EDIT: Post #666! \m/

illogic6 said:
http://androidandme.com/2010/11/news/latest-google-maps-provides-a-small-gingerbread-treat/
EDIT: Post #666! \m/
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Gingerbread will look nothing like that. That much I can guarantee.
If you've ever played with making themes you'd realize that it's probably trying to call a bunch of system graphics that currently do not exist in Froyo. That's why it's mostly solid colors.

No, No, No....It is not for the N1, it is for the N2! Well they might not call it the Nexus 2 but that is what it is.... Googles successor to the N1. Tmobile will have it and it will be released the 11th with gingerbread pre installed and it's a samsung with 1.2 snapdragon..(some rumors are the 8th)....Well that is the most popular rumor.. Google it. We only have 4 days to see if it is true. If it is, i will be all over it!! I've been waiting for a reason to go back to t-mobile. $79.99 a month unlimited (if you buy phone outright, no contract) and they have their 4g in my area now, sprint doesnt, and they charge a ton more than t-mobile.

a ton more? more yes, if you don't have 4G probably not worth it, but t-mobile is capping their data now
nugzo said:
No, No, No....It is not for the N1, it is for the N2! Well they might not call it the Nexus 2 but that is what it is.... Googles successor to the N1. Tmobile will have it and it will be released the 11th with gingerbread pre installed and it's a samsung with 1.2 snapdragon..(some rumors are the 8th)....Well that is the most popular rumor.. Google it. We only have 4 days to see if it is true. If it is, i will be all over it!! I've been waiting for a reason to go back to t-mobile. $79.99 a month unlimited (if you buy phone outright, no contract) and they have their 4g in my area now, sprint doesnt, and they charge a ton more than t-mobile.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse

xlGmanlx said:
a ton more? more yes, if you don't have 4G probably not worth it, but t-mobile is capping their data now
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not on their phones. They do on their portable hotspots.
Unlimited means unlimited, not capped. I had this plan a few months ago before the evo released, on my nexus. My girl got the nexus and opened an account w/ tmobile, got the same plan, 79.99 unlimited everything.
and yeah $40 more a month to sprint than i was paying T-Mobile is a ton more. I do understand that tmobile doesn't have the best coverage for some, so some tmobile is not a good option. but it is excellent where i am. I like the free built in wifi calling too, no need for a separate airwave device or whatever it is called.

nugzo said:
No, No, No....It is not for the N1, it is for the N2! Well they might not call it the Nexus 2 but that is what it is.... Googles successor to the N1. Tmobile will have it and it will be released the 11th with gingerbread pre installed and it's a samsung with 1.2 snapdragon..(some rumors are the 8th)....Well that is the most popular rumor.. Google it. We only have 4 days to see if it is true. If it is, i will be all over it!! I've been waiting for a reason to go back to t-mobile. $79.99 a month unlimited (if you buy phone outright, no contract) and they have their 4g in my area now, sprint doesnt, and they charge a ton more than t-mobile.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Rumors are that it has been delayed -- that's if it even exists. It also might just be a near stock Android phone that is not directly supported by Google (like the G2) so it might come with Gingerbread but still attached to the same crappy Samsung software upgrading. And a 1.2 Snapdragon? They don't use Snapdragons, it's rumored to be a 1.2 GHz Hummingbird.
You can get a EPRP plan with sprint and pay $69.99 w/ the new data fee or pay $79.99 (also with the new data fee included) for the regular ED plan with yearly upgrades. With unlimited mobile to mobile it's pretty much unlimited all around and with the ED plan you get a new phone every year at a subsidized price. Not saying that T-Mo is bad but Sprint offers superior 3G coverage, competitive (at least in this stage - T-Mo's HSPA+ coverage is just upgrades to it's existing 3G network which will become a bottleneck as it's the worse of the big 4) "4G" coverage, and better value (cheaper on contract w/ yearly upgrades).
I also wouldn't be super surprised if there's a Sprint WiMax version of this Samsung phone. Samsung already makes a WiMax Galaxy S for Sprint (Epic 4G), and the rumored Nexus Two is basically a Galaxy S with a bumped up CPU and vanilla Android. The original Nexus One was also announced by Sprint before being axed to better push their flagship EVO 4G which was going to be released around the same time.

nugzo said:
Not on their phones. They do on their portable hotspots.
Unlimited means unlimited, not capped. I had this plan a few months ago before the evo released, on my nexus. My girl got the nexus and opened an account w/ tmobile, got the same plan, 79.99 unlimited everything.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
T-Mo is throttling all data (mobile or hotspot) after 5GB.

Award Tour said:
T-Mo is throttling all data (mobile or hotspot) after 5GB.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thats new to me, i thought it was just the hotspot. So unlimited is not truly unlimited, nice. Something to consider definitely before i make the move.

If not the Nexus S/2 .... then what??

I havent done much research on the N2 so Im not sure what to expect. But Im just curious, what device would you upgrade to in the near future. If the N2 isnt up to par ( i will wait till it is available to decide ) i would prob just wait till something great came out. The G2 looks great, but not spectacular. As far as Im concerned, the N1 is still a beast among the Androids....maybe Ill keep the N1 and get a Galaxy Tab

I personally just got the nexus a few weeks ago. I paid $450 brand new in box.
Tossled with the idea of selling it, and also had a buyer, but I decided to keep it. For someone like me, its a great starter phone to learn android on without the worry of bricking it (done that with the jasjar in the past) and I think its slim as hell.
I'd wait for something thats as slim, and maybe even that foldable Amoled screen in the Samsung video (just kidding).
When I do upgrade to a thin Samsung I will still keep the Nexy. Even if it means saving up longer for a $480 phone. The nexus is just a collectors piece for a techie like me that I'd like to keep framed someday, in a display case. even if it won't be worth anything in my lifetime.
Cheers.

Another great thing about the N1 is the built in tethering and WiFi hotspot.
ATT unlimited data plan + free wifi hotspot and tethering= no brainer.
The build quality is the sugar on top.
and just for the sake of arguing, let's say the Nexus S comes out available on ATT: I can guarantee it will be without the hotspot and tethering options. That was added to the N1 after the fact via OS upgrade. No way ATT will ever allow that again, imo. Not for free the way it is now.
Being compatible with ATT 3G and having free hotspot and tethering is a once in a lifetime thing. I'm going to get me the wifi only Galaxy tab and use it ANYWHERE I want via N1 wifi hotspot...imagine THAT!

Old MuckenMire said:
and just for the sake of arguing, let's say the Nexus S comes out available on ATT: I can guarantee it will be without the hotspot and tethering options. That was added to the N1 after the fact via OS upgrade. No way ATT will ever allow that again, imo. Not for free the way it is now.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I asked about this before saying that if the Nexus S is sold at T-Mobile/Att stores then they are going to have the IMEI #s and will block the phones from using web-2-go type of dumbphone data plans (the best feature of the N1) and also might have some control over OS features like tethering?
One guy on here said that the Nexus S might be sold through BestBuy / Walmart / RadioShack instead of T-mobile / Att stores and might bypass the carriers again like the original N1 did so that T-Mobile/Att wont have any say on what the phone can or can't do.
Here's hoping the NexusS never EVER is sold at a T-Mobile/Att store

Old MuckenMire said:
Another great thing about the N1 is the built in tethering and WiFi hotspot.
ATT unlimited data plan + free wifi hotspot and tethering= no brainer.
The build quality is the sugar on top.
and just for the sake of arguing, let's say the Nexus S comes out available on ATT: I can guarantee it will be without the hotspot and tethering options. That was added to the N1 after the fact via OS upgrade. No way ATT will ever allow that again, imo. Not for free the way it is now.
Being compatible with ATT 3G and having free hotspot and tethering is a once in a lifetime thing. I'm going to get me the wifi only Galaxy tab and use it ANYWHERE I want via N1 wifi hotspot...imagine THAT!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
ever heard of a custom rom ?

ohgood said:
ever heard of a custom rom ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yeah I'm running one but that is not the same as it coming stock, which is what one has to assume, since not everyone will be willing or able to root.
But since you need it spelled out: free wifi hotspot and free tethering coming STOCK is a once in a lifetime thing.

ap3604 said:
I asked about this before saying that if the Nexus S is sold at T-Mobile/Att stores then they are going to have the IMEI #s and will block the phones from using web-2-go type of dumbphone data plans (the best feature of the N1) and also might have some control over OS features like tethering?
One guy on here said that the Nexus S might be sold through BestBuy / Walmart / RadioShack instead of T-mobile / Att stores and might bypass the carriers again like the original N1 did so that T-Mobile/Att wont have any say on what the phone can or can't do.
Here's hoping the NexusS never EVER is sold at a T-Mobile/Att store
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
With the way ATT is clamping down on data(no more unlimited data for new customers) I would be shocked if another device is ever ATT compatible and also contain free hotspot and tethering, no-matter where it is sold. If I'm wrong, I might get the NS given the dual core processor. That MIGHT be enough for me to overlook the build quality. I certainly agree with you regarding not selling the NS thru ATT/tmobile stores. Fudge them.

I'd also like to wait and see the battery life under the new dual processor phones before plunging into them.
I think someone made a worthy mention in another thread: phone technology is advancing, but is battery technology advancing too?
I hope it will tho in the future

ROM_Guest said:
I'd also like to wait and see the battery life under the new dual processor phones before plunging into them.
I think someone made a worthy mention in another thread: phone technology is advancing, but is battery technology advancing too?
I hope it will tho in the future
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Processors are also getting much more energy efficient, plus having a fast CPU without any CPU intensive apps (most apps would run fine on a single core 100-200MHz CPU) makes it more efficient in itself.
Edit: TBH, the Nexus S is really the only "must have" phone. If it has the Orion chip it'll compete with everything else through early 2012. You might seem some advancements in camera performance, maybe more RAM/ROM, but spec-wise, what else would there be to improve upon? Then there's the fact that all other flagship phones will be running Touchwiz/Sense/etc. and will be at the mercy of the OEMs/Carriers to receive future support/updates.

Buck Shot said:
If not the Nexus S/2 .... then what??
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Nexus One.

xPatriicK said:
Nexus One.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The Nexus is a great phone, but I want HSPA+ so I'd have to say pick up a G2 on Craigslist. They are under $400.00 already and dropping.
If you've had your Nexus a while and are just itching for something different thats what I'd get.
I mean if Nexus S is HSPA+ I will be getting one, if not then probably a G2.

Okay you're right but other than that I'd stay with the Nexus One.
Atleast that's what I'm doing for now. We don't even have HSPA+ or LTE or whatever here yet, haha

Samsung said they are releasing a dualcore, 4" Super AMOLED 2 (yep, 2) MONSTAH first quarter of 2011.
That's what I'm waiting for. If you're spending 500+ bucks, might as well spend it good.

Old MuckenMire said:
With the way ATT is clamping down on data(no more unlimited data for new customers) I would be shocked if another device is ever ATT compatible and also contain free hotspot and tethering, no-matter where it is sold. If I'm wrong, I might get the NS given the dual core processor. That MIGHT be enough for me to overlook the build quality. I certainly agree with you regarding not selling the NS thru ATT/tmobile stores. Fudge them.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Vibrant has ATT radio so that might work

Keeping the Nexus One for now. Will think about the Ns if it's build is solid & has HSPA+

http://www.cnet.com/8301-19736_1-20022976-251.html
what about this bad boy?

piggie916 said:
http://www.cnet.com/8301-19736_1-20022976-251.html
what about this bad boy?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
ugly as s***
even this moto looks better
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}

Award Tour said:
Processors are also getting much more energy efficient, plus having a fast CPU without any CPU intensive apps (most apps would run fine on a single core 100-200MHz CPU) makes it more efficient in itself.
Edit: TBH, the Nexus S is really the only "must have" phone. If it has the Orion chip it'll compete with everything else through early 2012. You might seem some advancements in camera performance, maybe more RAM/ROM, but spec-wise, what else would there be to improve upon? Then there's the fact that all other flagship phones will be running Touchwiz/Sense/etc. and will be at the mercy of the OEMs/Carriers to receive future support/updates.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If we get a Samsung built unbranded google phone with an Orion processor it'll be the nexus successor hands down, it'll have the best internals and be completely shrouded in controversy just like the N1. Either way if the Orion is there I'm buying it.
Sent from my Google Phone

Award Tour said:
Edit: TBH, the Nexus S is really the only "must have" phone. If it has the Orion chip it'll compete with everything else through early 2012. You might seem some advancements in camera performance, maybe more RAM/ROM, but spec-wise, what else would there be to improve upon? Then there's the fact that all other flagship phones will be running Touchwiz/Sense/etc. and will be at the mercy of the OEMs/Carriers to receive future support/updates.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Better touch screen, better 3G radio performance/location (maybe even dual radios like I think it's Nokia that does it). Better headjack (recessed headjack = dumb idea, it failed miserably on the first iPhone for a reason). Better gaming performance (which would come as part of the Orion Processor).
I love my N1, but it's not perfect by any stretch of the imagination.

Snapdragon 3rd generation HTC Phone

What is the BEST ALL AROUND PHONE on ANY network?

I am COMPLETELY fed up with SPRINT and their HORRIBLE customer Service.
I ABSOLUTELY LOVED my rooted EVO, but it broke.. I was forced to get an Insurance phone, and i Lost my root. The ONLINE Sprint REP told me he would waive my $100 fee, But when i went into a brick and mortar Sprint store, The rep told me that no REP would ever say that, They have never done that and never will waive an insurance fee and that he has NO way of checking that. I told him that the online rep told me that he will post it on my account so that and REP could see it and he said that basically i'm lying and that never happened. So i was sent the insurance phone, i had it for 48 hours and the screen died. I could still turn the phone on, it would still ring and i could still answer by knowing where to touch from memory, but the screen was just black. I took it in, they argued to that i would need to pay anotehr $100 for a new phone for an hour before giving me what they said was a 'brand new' EVO.. Well i've had it for 2 days.. I put in on the charger for 8 hours yesterday, took it off and 45 minutes later my phone was dead. I put it back on the charger last night.. When i woke up this morning, it wont charge or turn on. and they're telling me yet again, I would need to pay another $100 to get a new phone. This is absurd and ridiculous and I HATE SPRINT AND THEIR CUSTOMER SERVICE!
Anyway, I'm going to leave sprint, So if you could have ANY PHONE, from ANY Network
Which phone would you choose? I HATE slide out keyboards, so one of those is not an option.
The Samsung Galaxy S II looks like the perfect phone, but it has a Keyboard
The HTC Thunderbolt i have heard alot of problems about, but I also Like it alot?
What is the current Best phone with the BEST SPECS, and also, Are their any phones coming out in the next month or two that are worth waiting for?

Personally I really like the HTC EVO 4G, but I'm biased since this is in the EVO section.

Check out the Kyocera Echo.

You don't have to pay the $100 again if the phone came defective, the insurance offers a warranty to all phones I believe is 1 or 3 months. The only way you would have to pay the $100 again is if you broke the replacement or lost it.
Also when you get your new phone try to calibrate the battery, Charge and discharge around 3 times so you break it in.
As for the best phone, you won't find your answer here since most of us including myself are biased towards the evo.

Are you still biased towards the EVO even though you cannot root it? Would you rather not have an HTC Inspire that's indentical to the EVO but can be rooted? Or an HTC Thunderburd? or even an HTC EVO 3D? How can you say you'd rather have an unrooted EVO over any of those phones? I'm asking for the BEST phone available, the EVO has been out over a year, there are plenty of better phones that have came out.. Sure i loved my ROOTED EVO too, but not my unrooted EVO, and the EVO WAS THE BEST when it first came out, but there are numerous phones that beat it's specs and have updated sense now, so it's no longer THE BEST, catch my drift?

Id stay with Sprint you cant beat there Rates ..and unlimited data

Rates don't matter if you can't get a working phone, or a phone that allows you to do what you want.. I've been running MIUI for months, so to go back to SENSE make me feel like my insurance replacement was a downgrade.. Why pay for insurance if you can't be given the same phone that you purcahsed, I didn't purcahse a 2.3 Gingerbread EVO i purchased a 2.2 FROYO EVO that allowed me complete customization, not a 2.3 EVO that is locked boring a bland and i cannot customize whatsoever, and to give me 2 EVO's within 1 week that break is bull****, Plus the insurance one came with a screen cover, and when i had to get it repalced, the store REFUSED to give me another screen cover for the new phone, just refused! What bull****, they probably have 1000s of them, mark it down as making the customer happy for gods sake, why would you be that cheap an upset a customer after all the hassle he's had to go through.. Ridiculous, No store should ever treat customers like that if they expect to keep them.

pulazki said:
Are you still biased towards the EVO even though you cannot root it? Would you rather not have an HTC Inspire that's indentical to the EVO but can be rooted? Or an HTC Thunderburd? or even an HTC EVO 3D? How can you say you'd rather have an unrooted EVO over any of those phones? I'm asking for the BEST phone available, the EVO has been out over a year, there are plenty of better phones that have came out.. Sure i loved my ROOTED EVO too, but not my unrooted EVO, and the EVO WAS THE BEST when it first came out, but there are numerous phones that beat it's specs and have updated sense now, so it's no longer THE BEST, catch my drift?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Then leave, the evo can do 99% of the things other phones on the market do. Sure there are dual core phones but that's all just hype since there are a few apps optimized for them.
If you just plain hate the evo because of root, the only phone I would suggest is the 3d since the motorola photon is locked and the Nexus has radio problems.
Just remember that when you switch carriers...
You will pay more.
You won't have unlimited data.(I rather be stock forever without root before having a data cap or having my speeds throttled.)
Also to compare, my friends t-mobile G2 had a screen issue, do you know what t-mobile did? they told him its htc's problem not theirs so he had to ship the phone and stay without service for a week.
Even without TEP, the local sprint store I go to services phones that are under the 1 year warranty and sometimes they even replace them without charging a dime.

It's not plain hate for the EVO it's the fact that i've had 3 EVO's in 1 week, and apparently they just keep giving me faulty refurbished phones at my local sprint store, and all the reps on the floor are extremely unknowledable, the one rep didn't even know what froyo was.. I said i asked for a 2.2 Froyo, and he said that phone must be on another network because we dont sell a phone called a froyo. I absolutely loved my EVO which i purchased back in February, LOVED IT! But it stopped being able to receive text messages, and a week later stopped being able to charge which forced me to get a replacement, and now i'll be going back for a 4th replacement this week alone. It's rather frustrating that I've gotten 3 new phones and each time i have to re-download all my apps, i have to re-set up all my accounts and spend hours upon hours setting everything back up, and then 24 hours it's broken, I dont have a phone all day, and i have to make yet another trip to a Sprint Store that has HORRIBLE Service.
And on top of it, I have NO 4G in my area, Youngstown, OH -- I had Verizon for over 10 years and never ever dropped calls.. Now i drop multiple calls a day, I hardly ever have service anywhere i go.. My download speeds are atrocious.. I max out at around 50kb/s downloads -- and that's IF I EVEN get internet service. I'm just fed up with all the trips to sprint, multiple defective phones and the horrible support i've received. I obviously Don't want to have to go buy a new phone, pay more for service, and pay an early cancellation fee unless i was EXTREMELY fed up.. Just getting ridiculous now, I cannot afford to not have a phone for over a week with my job. To wake up this morning and find that my phone wont turn was the last straw.. 3 phones in 1 week is insane.

In my ever so humble opinion, the best phone you could get right now is the iPhone 4. A lot of people will grumble about how it's a walled garden environment and you can't mess around with the OS much (Jailbreaking will only get you so far), but if you're looking for a solid out-of-the-box experience, you would be hard-pressed to find something better.
If you were to go this route, Verizon and AT&T are pretty much equal as far as I can tell, although I hated AT&T's customer service (which is why I am with Sprint now). I loved my iPhone, though, and had great coverage everywhere except at my house. If you're not a heavy data user then the unlimited data really doesn't mean that much; I never went over 5GB on my iPhone, and I used the hell out of that thing.

pulazki said:
It's not plain hate for the EVO it's the fact that i've had 3 EVO's in 1 week, and apparently they just keep giving me faulty refurbished phones at my local sprint store, and all the reps on the floor are extremely unknowledable, the one rep didn't even know what froyo was.. I said i asked for a 2.2 Froyo, and he said that phone must be on another network because we dont sell a phone called a froyo.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Maybe you just need a different local Sprint store

I hear the Thunderbolt is nice

Why don't you try the T-Mob Sensation?

MaxCarnage said:
In my ever so humble opinion, the best phone you could get right now is the iPhone 4. A lot of people will grumble about how it's a walled garden environment and you can't mess around with the OS much (Jailbreaking will only get you so far), but if you're looking for a solid out-of-the-box experience, you would be hard-pressed to find something better.
If you were to go this route, Verizon and AT&T are pretty much equal as far as I can tell, although I hated AT&T's customer service (which is why I am with Sprint now). I loved my iPhone, though, and had great coverage everywhere except at my house. If you're not a heavy data user then the unlimited data really doesn't mean that much; I never went over 5GB on my iPhone, and I used the hell out of that thing.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
get ooooooutta here with that bull. The Evo right now is still one of the best phones out there, even though the specs aren't quite on par with some of the newest phones (dual core blah blah blah), you're not gonna find much better. Basically Sprint Evo=Verizon Thunderbolt=AT&T Inspire and i don't know about other carriers. The Galaxy S II is going to be top of the line when it is released, and the only one with a physical keyboard is the AT&T model, so if you don't want sprint, you should go with verizon for that (due out sometime this month). I recently sampled all of the newest android devices from every carrier, and i personally don't think any of the motorola's come even close to matching up with the HTC and Samsung. Samsungs screens are amazing and so are their cameras, but touchwiz is god awful. I'm a huge HTC Sense fan, so i take preference to any HTC phone. The thunderbolt i have heard not too great things about. If i had to pick a phone on a carrier other than sprint, i think i would say the Incredible 2 on verizon or the Galaxy S II on verizon. AT&T service is not too great, but the inspire is really nice, and if you can handle a 4.5 inch screen, the samsung infuse isn't awful. So back to the iPhone fanboy, iPhone 4 will be obsolete within 3 months, when the iPhone 5 comes out, and the iPhone 5 will still not be on par with the new android devices. Apple puts out 1 phone a year from 1 manufacturer, and then sues because they can't keep up with the android phones that are constantly being improved. iPhone=Apple App store and that is it. If all you want is the apps from apples store, go ahead and get an iPhone but if you really want a truly customizable, top-of-the-line phone experience, you'd be an idiot to go with anything but android

MaxCarnage said:
In my ever so humble opinion, the best phone you could get right now is the iPhone 4. A lot of people will grumble about how it's a walled garden environment and you can't mess around with the OS much (Jailbreaking will only get you so far), but if you're looking for a solid out-of-the-box experience, you would be hard-pressed to find something better.
If you were to go this route, Verizon and AT&T are pretty much equal as far as I can tell, although I hated AT&T's customer service (which is why I am with Sprint now). I loved my iPhone, though, and had great coverage everywhere except at my house. If you're not a heavy data user then the unlimited data really doesn't mean that much; I never went over 5GB on my iPhone, and I used the hell out of that thing.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm gonna have to agree with MaxCarnage. It looks like you want an out of the box experience with no hassles. Apple will provide you with all of that for the time being.
As far as rates, You're going to be paying a lot for this service through At&t or Verizon, but it's better than being phoneless.
Also, I would suggest you find a new local store, some stores aren't REAL stores. Go to your nearest corporate store.
Also, anytime you have a conversation with an online rep, your conversation is saved and emailed to you. I don't understand how you couldn't just produce that document to the rep. So, I wouldn't bash on Sprint until you've exhausted all the appropriate options. Also, sprint would most likely reimburse you for the money you spent and the trouble you've had with them.
So far, my experience with Sprint has been great.

iiiiaann said:
get ooooooutta here with that bull. The Evo right now is still one of the best phones out there, even though the specs aren't quite on par with some of the newest phones (dual core blah blah blah), you're not gonna find much better. Basically Sprint Evo=Verizon Thunderbolt=AT&T Inspire and i don't know about other carriers. The Galaxy S II is going to be top of the line when it is released, and the only one with a physical keyboard is the AT&T model, so if you don't want sprint, you should go with verizon for that (due out sometime this month). I recently sampled all of the newest android devices from every carrier, and i personally don't think any of the motorola's come even close to matching up with the HTC and Samsung. Samsungs screens are amazing and so are their cameras, but touchwiz is god awful. I'm a huge HTC Sense fan, so i take preference to any HTC phone. The thunderbolt i have heard not too great things about. If i had to pick a phone on a carrier other than sprint, i think i would say the Incredible 2 on verizon or the Galaxy S II on verizon. AT&T service is not too great, but the inspire is really nice, and if you can handle a 4.5 inch screen, the samsung infuse isn't awful. So back to the iPhone fanboy, iPhone 4 will be obsolete within 3 months, when the iPhone 5 comes out, and the iPhone 5 will still not be on par with the new android devices. Apple puts out 1 phone a year from 1 manufacturer, and then sues because they can't keep up with the android phones that are constantly being improved. iPhone=Apple App store and that is it. If all you want is the apps from apples store, go ahead and get an iPhone but if you really want a truly customizable, top-of-the-line phone experience, you'd be an idiot to go with anything but android
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Good lord man use the enter key every now and then.

iiiiaann said:
get ooooooutta here with that bull [...] So back to the iPhone fanboy, iPhone 4 will be obsolete within 3 months, when the iPhone 5 comes out, and the iPhone 5 will still not be on par with the new android devices. Apple puts out 1 phone a year from 1 manufacturer, and then sues because they can't keep up with the android phones that are constantly being improved. iPhone=Apple App store and that is it. If all you want is the apps from apples store, go ahead and get an iPhone but if you really want a truly customizable, top-of-the-line phone experience, you'd be an idiot to go with anything but android
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Call it bull if you want; I was sharing my opinion. Calling me names/insulting me doesn't bolster your arguments.
Yes a new iPhone is coming out. How you can say that it won't be on par with new Android devices I'm not sure; you must have some secret sources that have fed you the specs for the as-yet announced Apple device. Either that or your psychic.
It's true that Android phones are constantly being released and often with marginal improvements, but what this has created is a fractured environment where apps only work on small groups of phones and other phones are left in the dust. You can't even be sure that your Android phone will get the next OS update when you buy it. Android's hectic release cycle has made fragmentation a serious issue rather than just a buzzword for Apple "fanboys".
When you buy an iPhone you have a pretty good idea that it will be the premier iOS device for at least a year. Apple has been very good at backwards compatibility, so you can easily get two years out of an iPhone with all the latest software updates and features. No Android phone can offer that today.
There are pros and cons to the iPhone and iOS, but what it really comes down to is what you as a user are looking for. The iPhone is a reliable device that provides an exceptional experience as long as you don't want to mess around with the behind-the-scenes pieces of your phone. To say that anyone would be "an idiot" for going with the iPhone is clearly biased and wants to play elitist. I have had both kinds of phones, currently have an Android phone, and I can tell you that if you want to leave Sprint you would not go wrong by seriously considering an iPhone.

You should be an optimistprime, not a negatron. =P
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA Premium App

AdriVelazquez said:
I'm gonna have to agree with MaxCarnage. It looks like you want an out of the box experience with no hassles. Apple will provide you with all of that for the time being.
As far as rates, You're going to be paying a lot for this service through At&t or Verizon, but it's better than being phoneless.
Also, I would suggest you find a new local store, some stores aren't REAL stores. Go to your nearest corporate store.
Also, anytime you have a conversation with an online rep, your conversation is saved and emailed to you. I don't understand how you couldn't just produce that document to the rep. So, I wouldn't bash on Sprint until you've exhausted all the appropriate options. Also, sprint would most likely reimburse you for the money you spent and the trouble you've had with them.
So far, my experience with Sprint has been great.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
They dont reimburse you with cash or anything besidea crediting your account
Sent from my PC36100 using Tapatalk

MaxCarnage said:
Call it bull if you want; I was sharing my opinion. Calling me names/insulting me don't bolster your arguments.
Yes a new iPhone is coming out. How you can say that it won't be on par with new Android devices I'm not sure; you must have some secret sources that have fed you the specs for the as-yet announced Apple device. Either that or your psychic.
It's true that Android phones are constantly being released and often with marginal improvements, but what this has created is a fractured environment where apps only work on small groups of phones and other phones are left in the dust. You can't even be sure that your Android phone will get the next OS update when you buy it. Android's hectic release cycle has made fragmentation a serious issue rather than just a buzzword for Apple "fanboys".
When you buy an iPhone you have a pretty good idea that it will be the premier iOS device for at least a year. Apple has been very good at backwards compatibility, so you can easily get two years out of an iPhone with all the latest software updates and features. No Android phone can offer that today.
There are pros and cons to the iPhone and iOS, but what it really comes down to is what you as a user are looking for. The iPhone is a reliable device that provides an exceptional experience as long as you don't want to mess around with the behind-the-scenes pieces of your phone. To say that anyone would be "an idiot" for going with the iPhone is clearly biased and wants to play elitist. I have had both kinds of phones, currently have an Android phone, and I can tell you that if you want to leave Sprint you would not go wrong by seriously considering an iPhone.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The Evo has been out for over a year, and is still on par with the newly released phones, and has the most recent software. You can root it any put any software you like on it, so there goes the two years argument because i guarantee next june the Evo will still be able to run the most recent updates and features, whether through official releases or custom ROMs (which btw you can't run on iOS).
There is absolutely nothing that an iPhone can do that any of the newer (and by newer i mean within a year or so, evo included) android phones cannot. Nothing at all. Look at it the other way, and it's a different story. Custom ROMs, kernels, launchers, widgets, 4G, video chatting over 3G/4G, hardware options: physical keyboards, various screen sizes and phone shapes, features like 8 megapixel cameras, 1080p video recording, 3D video recording, kickstands, battery upgrades, fingerprint scanners, there is just so much more that android has to offer.
If you want to get sucked into apple's mind controlling dictatorship, be my guest, but an educated consumer would research the options and find that while the iPhone does have a lot to offer, android has much, much more, and if you don't want the same generic smartphone experience that comes with every iPhone, then there is just no comparison.
Also to consolidate phone recommendations from before, if you want a phone that is almost the same as the evo but a different carrier, AT&T HTC Inspire. If you want something a little bit smaller but newer and not on AT&T, Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 2. And if you want the newest technology, but no physical keyboard, Verizon Samsung Galaxy S II.

Upgrade question

I am planing on getting a epic 4g tourch but wanted to know if anyone knew what it would cost straight up at a sprint store? My renewal is not up until next year. Also does anyone know if i but the phone say off of bestbuy or eBay if the insurance i carry with sprint will cover the new phone? I dont know if it will being as i did not buy it from sprint. Thanks!
P.S. does anybody but me think 4.5inc is just to big for a phone.... Wish it was like 4inc.

NissanNick said:
I am planing on getting a epic 4g tourch but wanted to know if anyone knew what it would cost straight up at a sprint store? My renewal is not up until next year. Also does anyone know if i but the phone say off of bestbuy or eBay if the insurance i carry with sprint will cover the new phone? I dont know if it will being as i did not buy it from sprint. Thanks!
P.S. does anybody but me think 4.5inc is just to big for a phone.... Wish it was like 4inc.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
My guess would be 599.99 off contract. For that kind of dough,you'd be better off doing an early termination, paying that and getting an new line with an on contract phone.
Not sure about the insurance though. Asurion is a seperate company they insure phones from all carriers.
No I think 4.5 inch is sweet, id like to see a 5 inch!
This is just my opinion here, but if your a year off from getting an upgrade I would wait. The epic 4g is going to be just fine for a long while yet. I've played with a freinds evo 3d and an international gsII. While they're cool, overall I was not impressed. I didn't see a signifigant increase in performance over this the epic 4g, and in some cases it seemed worse. I wuld wait for the 2nd gen of dual core phones or even until quad core....but that's just my 2cents. Good luck in whatever you decide, I'm sure it'll be an awsome phone.
From cellblock D

I plan on doing this at 14 months so I don't have to wait a full two years to get the promo price. While it cost 75$, the phone price will go from full price to the 199$. Still saving a few hundo.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1200917
Sent from my SPH-D700 using xda premium

i was trying to figure out the best options for upgrade as well. I have the best buy insurance so maybe my epic will take a tumble and then i can sell a brand new epic online and use that cash to buy a SGS2. However I was a little disappointed in the video i saw on engadget. They showed an epic touch next to the original SGS on att, they appeared to be the same thickness. Wasn't the big thing suppose to be the incredible thinness of the phone? hmmm

goblue30093 said:
i was trying to figure out the best options for upgrade as well. I have the best buy insurance so maybe my epic will take a tumble and then i can sell a brand new epic online and use that cash to buy a SGS2. However I was a little disappointed in the video i saw on engadget. They showed an epic touch next to the original SGS on att, they appeared to be the same thickness. Wasn't the big thing suppose to be the incredible thinness of the phone? hmmm
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's because they added in WiMax. So i would rather have the phone be 1mm thicker and have wimax.
The epic touch is gonna be sprint's thinnest phone anyway.

NissanNick said:
I am planing on getting a epic 4g tourch but wanted to know if anyone knew what it would cost straight up at a sprint store? My renewal is not up until next year. Also does anyone know if i but the phone say off of bestbuy or eBay if the insurance i carry with sprint will cover the new phone? I dont know if it will being as i did not buy it from sprint. Thanks!
P.S. does anybody but me think 4.5inc is just to big for a phone.... Wish it was like 4inc.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Insurance will cover your phone regardless of where you got it from. I bought my epic from Craigs List and it was covered.

You'd like to see a 5" screen lol?
You animal. ;-)
Sent from the future.

5 in over kill ever see that massive tab/phone called the Dell steak kinda big just saying
Sent from my Nexus S 4G using XDA App

Rev3ge07 said:
5 in over kill ever see that massive tab/phone called the Dell steak kinda big just saying
Sent from my Nexus S 4G using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think it is possible if its edge to edge scren with ics so the butons are on screen ...

Rev3ge07 said:
5 in over kill ever see that massive tab/phone called the Dell steak kinda big just saying
Sent from my Nexus S 4G using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
everytime i see some one saying 5 inches is over kill, it takes me back to wanting the original htc shift. 7 inch screen with a sliding full keyboard, dual boot windows 7 and windows mobile.
http://www.htc.com/europe/product/shift/overview.html
/dream phone!/
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
besides the phone, id take the cute asian girl too, just out of good will and all.

austin420 said:
everytime i see some one saying 5 inches is over kill, it takes me back to wanting the original htc shift. 7 inch screen with a sliding full keyboard, dual boot windows 7 and windows mobile.
http://www.htc.com/europe/product/shift/overview.html
/dream phone!/
besides the phone, id take the cute asian girl too, just out of good will and all.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Lmao!!!!! Haha funny
Sent from my Nexus S 4G using XDA App

To me 4" to 4.3" is about as big a a phone should be. I would love to keep this phone.. but i am starting to think CM7 (stable) will never happen lol

i think 4.5 will be fine because it has a small bezel too. but you are right nick, anything bigger than that is just crazy. Start feeling like we'll be the guy on hot tub time machine with the old school big ass phones

Love that movie!

When I just talked to Sprint this week, everyone said contract buyouts have been completely removed from their systems. So no regular rep can do that even if they wanted to.
Just a heads up.

You can definitely buy your phone off contract.
Itsjust not as easy as GSM where all yu do is connect your sim card and you're good to go
You have to call sprint after you buy it and get it activated with all the codes on the sticker and then it'll be tied to your account.
It also doesn't effect upgrade eligibility. So if you buy off contract and you're due for an upgrade, you can upgrade, keep the new phone in the box and just use your gsii as your main and sell the upgrade boxsealed to recoup a few hunneds
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA Premium App

One of my favorite features and reasons to buy unlocked

I'm here in the US using an AT&T sim. I am so sick of the terrible carriers putting their little fingers and logos into all these devices.
My least favorite of these new things is the carrier logo in the top left of the notification shade.
This is a gross mis-use of the notification bar and AT&T and Verizon and the rest need to knock it off.
I'm happy (really really really happy) to report that the N7100 does NOT do this. Love it!
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}

My International Note 1 does not have this either
Sent from my GT-N7000 using xda premium

Hummm.... My locked Note (purchased from T-Mobile), does not say "T-Mobile" anywhere in the notification bar either. It's one of the first things I noticed when I bought it a couple of months ago.
It does have a permanently-emblazoned T-Mobile logo painted on it directly below the earpiece though
Sent from my SGH-T879 using xda premium

Is LTE speed the only reason to buy a carrier branded note?
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium

ROB281 said:
Is LTE speed the only reason to buy a carrier branded note?
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I was wondering the same thing.

ROB281 said:
Is LTE speed the only reason to buy a carrier branded note?
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
For me LTE is huge as AT&T is extremely fast around here. Faster than my Fios connection. That plus I'm due for an upgrade so I'll pay the greatly reduced price for the device.

I dunno about you... but that's not true on my HTC Sensation... also it might be from the manufacturer (at least you know who's network you are on if you're roaming).
I don't think I've ever seen that... Then again, I don't usually buy Samsung phones

I really really despise carrier branding..... Are US carriers the only ones that do this?
I'm just not sure what I should do? I've always had TMO and Sprint, but lately they've been horribly slow.
So I'm also curious, IS LTE/4G the only positive for the US Note II?

LTE is nice but if it's going to make the note battery act like the battery on my gnex then I'd be willing to go without
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium

I wonder if threads like the OPs are just people trying to make themselves feel better for dropping $700 on a phone that can be had in 9 days for $299 (or less).
I mean, I have ATT and am ready to drop the cash on an international version, but I just can't seem to do it. I use Netflix a lot (don't worry, I pay a healthy amont for data) and it sucks mostly on my GSM GNEX. Stuttering and buffering. I just want a fast connection, and the LTE note is worth waiting 9 days on, IMO...
The 2500mAh battery on the AT&T LTE Note lasts all day.
The 3100mAh will be better. Food for thought.

ericshmerick said:
I wonder if threads like the OPs are just people trying to make themselves feel better for dropping $700 on a phone that can be had in 9 days for $299 (or less).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You are making a lot of assumptions (price and availability date), none of which have been confirmed.
Nevertheless I agree with you on what you are trying to say.

ericshmerick said:
I wonder if threads like the OPs are just people trying to make themselves feel better for dropping $700 on a phone that can be had in 9 days for $299 (or less).
I mean, I have ATT and am ready to drop the cash on an international version, but I just can't seem to do it. I use Netflix a lot (don't worry, I pay a healthy amont for data) and it sucks mostly on my GSM GNEX. Stuttering and buffering. I just want a fast connection, and the LTE note is worth waiting 9 days on, IMO...
The 2500mAh battery on the AT&T LTE Note lasts all day.
The 3100mAh will be better. Food for thought.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't like being locked into a contract, especially since in Canada they're 3 years. For that reason alone it's not worth going for the subsidized phone, for my needs anyways.
Sent from my GT-N7100 using xda premium

Slap-Yourself :) said:
I really really despise carrier branding..... Are US carriers the only ones that do this?
I'm just not sure what I should do? I've always had TMO and Sprint, but lately they've been horribly slow.
So I'm also curious, IS LTE/4G the only positive for the US Note II?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
well... considering the only carrier branding is on the back cover... if you buy a replacement battery door, you'll have a note 2 that looks like the international one...
ericshmerick said:
I wonder if threads like the OPs are just people trying to make themselves feel better for dropping $700 on a phone that can be had in 9 days for $299 (or less).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Maybe for you... I've got to pay full retail for mines ($650-$700) and if you think about it, that's how much you pay too over the length of your contract (don't get fooled by marketing tricks... that's why I despise american carriers.)

Maybe for you... I've got to pay full retail for mines ($650-$700) and if you think about it, that's how much you pay too over the length of your contract (don't get fooled by marketing tricks... that's why I despise american carriers.)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
But you still need service of some kind, which isn't free. I pay $48/month for seemingly unlimited rollover minutes (like 3000+) and 5gig of tethering data (200 texts) and free M2M on ATT. I have a company discount.
I know many readers are't in the US and don't have an add a line, but it's very cheap for me to keep ATT, contract or not. The monthly fee is higher every where else for me.
I mean I get the "well you are paying $2,000 for that phone!" arguments, but really you need to add in the cost of any service unless you are using it 100% on wifi (which nobody does). Add that in with a full non-contract price phone and then post.

ericshmerick said:
But you still need service of some kind, which isn't free. I pay $48/month for seemingly unlimited rollover minutes (like 3000+) and 5gig of tethering data (200 texts) and free M2M on ATT. I have a company discount.
I know many readers are't in the US and don't have an add a line, but it's very cheap for me to keep ATT, contract or not. The monthly fee is higher every where else for me.
I mean I get the "well you are paying $2,000 for that phone!" arguments, but really you need to add in the cost of any service unless you are using it 100% on wifi (which nobody does). Add that in with a full non-contract price phone and then post.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well, I'm on T-Mobile's Value plan which is a 2 year plan w/o any subsidies but you save enough for 1.5 phones... although your plan sounds pretty decent... either it's grandfathered or you've got some sick company discount, but in either case, the phone wouldn't be $300 for you... that would require a 2 year commitment (not sure how they handle grandfathered plans)

achusaysblessyou said:
well... considering the only carrier branding is on the back cover... if you buy a replacement battery door, you'll have a note 2 that looks like the international one...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well, do you think they'll be interchangeable? Weren't the back covers different between the AT&T and International ones different? (Looked the same but weren't interchangeable)

ROB281 said:
Is LTE speed the only reason to buy a carrier branded note?
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yep, the only reason. I can understand why it's a great thing for people to use LTE, but personally I have wifi everywhere I go and I barely use my monthly data. Even though in some cases LTE can be faster than wifi, wifi is plenty fast for anything you wanna do. So I prefer the international version for development support. But the development for the LTE versions shouldn't be too bad either since they're using the same SoC.

For me HSPA+ is plenty......haven't been on a contract in 4 years. Straight Talk service is LEGIT everywhere i go.....so besides getting the phone early, that is the reason i buy unlocked. Could really care less about carrier branding.

Slap-Yourself :) said:
Well, do you think they'll be interchangeable? Weren't the back covers different between the AT&T and International ones different? (Looked the same but weren't interchangeable)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Which phone are you talking about? I think the Note II should be safe as the only thing they added between the models was just a different LTE chip (or not even if it was just a matter of flashing a new radio). I mean everything's pretty much the same in terms of specs so they didn't do any radical re-engineering, also the flip covers also replace the back cover, so if you get one of those that should remove the branding (at least on the T-Mo and AT&T ones, who knows what the Verizon one will look like). Just don't buy a fake as the NFC chip is in the back.