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Any heard they have a rumor about gingerbread being release november 11

But is that for the evo I need to no
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If it was, I'm sure it would be for the Nexus One.
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Im wondering if its just the sdk or the source. If its just the sdk its pretty much a emulator and software tools for app developers. If its the source then that would be perfect. We could start building aosp gingerbread for the Evo.
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Also im sure its done for the n1. The offical google phone always gets first treat.
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getting my donation money ready for cyanogen and friends.
personally, i just dont see how there can be a major overhaul of graphics and performance with such small amount of time between froyo and ginger.
but i hope to be proved wrong, we just havent gotten any major news about this iteration unlike froyos announcement of its super speedup tweaks.

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If it was, I'm sure it would be for the Nexus One.
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why in the world would the outdated nexus one get gingerbread?

Because the n1 always get stuff first. Matter fact it was most likely the test phone for it. Its the only dev phone out. Googles offical dev phone.
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Oh ok I think it did say something about sdk
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getting my donation money ready for cyanogen and friends.
personally, i just dont see how there can be a major overhaul of graphics and performance with such small amount of time between froyo and ginger.
but i hope to be proved wrong, we just havent gotten any major news about this iteration unlike froyos announcement of its super speedup tweaks.
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Gingerbread won't be as big of a jump as some think. Honeycomb will be the big jump.
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n1 is still highly used in alot of university tech demos and concept technologies... its basically a cheap small computer with alot of sensors
case in point, the n1 in rocket launching for accelerometer and sensor data, etc.
i would say its still holding its own very well.
i would also hope its the testbed for all future android iterations, because if it runs good on that phone, then it'll run AWESOME on our evo phones.

TorxT3D said:
i would also hope its the testbed for all future android iterations, because if it runs good on that phone, then it'll run AWESOME on our evo phones.
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Why? They have the same CPU (well, we have the CDMA variation if you want to be exact), same GPU, and same amount of RAM. If anything the Nexus One will run better since their kernels are usually more optimized because they come from Google.
As for not being a big leap, I think UI wise it will be. Expect a newer, darker theme and more animations/effects. I think that it'll look like a mash up between Froyo, the newer voice actions pop ups, the ASOP 3d gallery app, the YouTube app, and Google TV. I also expect hardware acceleration for the UI to be introduced.
Speaking of hardware acceleration, I'm actually kind of worried about how the EVO will perform here. I had a low end Sprint Optimus S, Epic 4G, and my EVO 4G on hand today. I wanted to see how each performed when using the 3D Gallery app and the EVO was pretty choppy.
The Epic's GPU is obviously good so its no surprise that it had no problems. The Optimistic S has a past gen 600 MHz CPU and the same Adreno 200 GPU as the EVO (which really makes a statement: our GPU is in a $50 budget phones), the lower resolution also helps and it ended up running the app very smoothly. The higher resolution of the EVO and the Adreno 200 was as I said choppy. Simple things like popping up the menu were choppy and unattractive even when only 1 photo was in the gallery...
I really hope Google has something up their sleeves. I can't imagine them releasing a choppy UI on the Nexus One which is essentially the same as the EVO performance wise. At least I hope so.
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The best thing that gingerbread will bring is VOIP using google voice number. If it works anything like the client thats part of gmail.com that would be cool.

http://androidandme.com/2010/11/news/latest-google-maps-provides-a-small-gingerbread-treat/
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Gingerbread will look nothing like that. That much I can guarantee.
If you've ever played with making themes you'd realize that it's probably trying to call a bunch of system graphics that currently do not exist in Froyo. That's why it's mostly solid colors.

No, No, No....It is not for the N1, it is for the N2! Well they might not call it the Nexus 2 but that is what it is.... Googles successor to the N1. Tmobile will have it and it will be released the 11th with gingerbread pre installed and it's a samsung with 1.2 snapdragon..(some rumors are the 8th)....Well that is the most popular rumor.. Google it. We only have 4 days to see if it is true. If it is, i will be all over it!! I've been waiting for a reason to go back to t-mobile. $79.99 a month unlimited (if you buy phone outright, no contract) and they have their 4g in my area now, sprint doesnt, and they charge a ton more than t-mobile.

a ton more? more yes, if you don't have 4G probably not worth it, but t-mobile is capping their data now
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No, No, No....It is not for the N1, it is for the N2! Well they might not call it the Nexus 2 but that is what it is.... Googles successor to the N1. Tmobile will have it and it will be released the 11th with gingerbread pre installed and it's a samsung with 1.2 snapdragon..(some rumors are the 8th)....Well that is the most popular rumor.. Google it. We only have 4 days to see if it is true. If it is, i will be all over it!! I've been waiting for a reason to go back to t-mobile. $79.99 a month unlimited (if you buy phone outright, no contract) and they have their 4g in my area now, sprint doesnt, and they charge a ton more than t-mobile.
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a ton more? more yes, if you don't have 4G probably not worth it, but t-mobile is capping their data now
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Not on their phones. They do on their portable hotspots.
Unlimited means unlimited, not capped. I had this plan a few months ago before the evo released, on my nexus. My girl got the nexus and opened an account w/ tmobile, got the same plan, 79.99 unlimited everything.
and yeah $40 more a month to sprint than i was paying T-Mobile is a ton more. I do understand that tmobile doesn't have the best coverage for some, so some tmobile is not a good option. but it is excellent where i am. I like the free built in wifi calling too, no need for a separate airwave device or whatever it is called.

nugzo said:
No, No, No....It is not for the N1, it is for the N2! Well they might not call it the Nexus 2 but that is what it is.... Googles successor to the N1. Tmobile will have it and it will be released the 11th with gingerbread pre installed and it's a samsung with 1.2 snapdragon..(some rumors are the 8th)....Well that is the most popular rumor.. Google it. We only have 4 days to see if it is true. If it is, i will be all over it!! I've been waiting for a reason to go back to t-mobile. $79.99 a month unlimited (if you buy phone outright, no contract) and they have their 4g in my area now, sprint doesnt, and they charge a ton more than t-mobile.
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Rumors are that it has been delayed -- that's if it even exists. It also might just be a near stock Android phone that is not directly supported by Google (like the G2) so it might come with Gingerbread but still attached to the same crappy Samsung software upgrading. And a 1.2 Snapdragon? They don't use Snapdragons, it's rumored to be a 1.2 GHz Hummingbird.
You can get a EPRP plan with sprint and pay $69.99 w/ the new data fee or pay $79.99 (also with the new data fee included) for the regular ED plan with yearly upgrades. With unlimited mobile to mobile it's pretty much unlimited all around and with the ED plan you get a new phone every year at a subsidized price. Not saying that T-Mo is bad but Sprint offers superior 3G coverage, competitive (at least in this stage - T-Mo's HSPA+ coverage is just upgrades to it's existing 3G network which will become a bottleneck as it's the worse of the big 4) "4G" coverage, and better value (cheaper on contract w/ yearly upgrades).
I also wouldn't be super surprised if there's a Sprint WiMax version of this Samsung phone. Samsung already makes a WiMax Galaxy S for Sprint (Epic 4G), and the rumored Nexus Two is basically a Galaxy S with a bumped up CPU and vanilla Android. The original Nexus One was also announced by Sprint before being axed to better push their flagship EVO 4G which was going to be released around the same time.

nugzo said:
Not on their phones. They do on their portable hotspots.
Unlimited means unlimited, not capped. I had this plan a few months ago before the evo released, on my nexus. My girl got the nexus and opened an account w/ tmobile, got the same plan, 79.99 unlimited everything.
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T-Mo is throttling all data (mobile or hotspot) after 5GB.

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T-Mo is throttling all data (mobile or hotspot) after 5GB.
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Thats new to me, i thought it was just the hotspot. So unlimited is not truly unlimited, nice. Something to consider definitely before i make the move.

Best Buy ad leaked...$799...

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Looks like you can't even use wifi without paying for a month of data from Verizon.

Greedy corporations putting their shareholders above their customers. I was planning on getting this device but I can't justify spending $800. The same goes to ATT charging $500 for the dock for the atrix. Shame!!!
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Terrible.
I was planning on getting a Xoom, but now I'm going to wait and see if T-Mo's Honeycomb LG tablet is a better deal... I have a feeling it will be, even with the gimmicky 3D functionality.

The xoom looks freaking amazing. I wish it weren't so stinking expensive now if someone could port honeycomb to netbooks.... that would be sick.
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Was looking forward to selling my iPad and buying this awesome Xoom tablet. Not for $800 I'm not. How can they justify a price this high? I mean its not THAT different hardware wise from the dumpy Viewsonic G-Tablet. It has better specs overall, but not over double the price better.

I was sooooo excited for this, now I am loathing Motorola for having such a poor plan for the pricing of their products.
G-Slate here I come (possibly).

Although I'm upset about the pricing, I'm more upset about Verizon requiring a month of cellular data to use wifi. That's just greedy.
That said, to put it in perspective, the Xoom is only nominally more expensive than the equivalent iPad but with better hardware (ffc, Tegra2, higher resolution, etc):
http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_ipad/family/ipad?mco=OTY2ODA0NQ

700 would have been a much smarter move on their part in all honesty...
I will be very interested in seeing how much the wifi version costs and when it even comes out for that matter.
No way will I pay that much.. if they are requiring you to sign up with Verizon you should be getting some nice subsidizing...

Wait....what...huh..you have to pay to use wifi? How can u charge me to use my home wifi. Where does it say that

nashmage said:
700 would have been a much smarter move on their part in all honesty...
I will be very interested in seeing how much the wifi version costs and when it even comes out for that matter.
No way will I pay that much.. if they are requiring you to sign up with Verizon you should be getting some nice subsidizing...
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It looks like the data is month to month, so you aren't signing a contract, meaning no subsidized price. I mean, you could buy it at $799 and pay $20 for 1 month of data to activate wifi, but what if you have to factory reset your device? I bet there will be a hack to unlock wifi in a week anyway...

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Wait....what...huh..you have to pay to use wifi? How can u charge me to use my home wifi. Where does it say that
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Directly under the picture of the Xoom.

It says under the picture that for wifi to be activated you have to sign on for at least a month for a data plan of at least 1gb.

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It says under the picture that for wifi to be activated you have to sign on for at least a month for a data plan of at least 1gb.
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Cheap blow from Verizon....I had this on lock down...now I can't get it even on principle....that hurts

I bet they won't even let you leave the store with it unless you pay for 1 month of data.

Yeah, that is some BS. Really. I was going to get this instead of a laptop, because it ran Android and had similar specs to lower/midrange laptops. Now I'm most likely not. Moto is starting to look a lot like Apple, thankfully we still have HTC, who actually gives a crap more or less (but could be faster on updating stuff).
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Severely disappointed, motorola just lost a customer, not for just this but forthe recent pricing/billing plans for the Atrix 4g (with its laptop base/require tethering). As for the Xoom, I too can no longer justify buying this device... 1. My principles won't let me 2. Price.
@500-600: Perfect deal given the hardware specs, would lead to large sales (taking customers from the ipad/and ipad2 marked, myself included)
@600: I would say it is a pretty good deal. Although i don't know exact specifics, the price of the hardware prolly runs around the 400-500$ range (even the tegra 2 development kit runs for 250$ minus a screen,R&D, and a few other hardware differences)
@700: A bit pricey, and over priced. Wouldn't have been shocked on this price point since it is basically the unofficial flagship tablet of Android 3.0, and a true "first-generation" android tablet(which understandably comes at a slight premium and early adoption cost)
@800: Completely overpriced, dont care how "new" it is, Tegra 2 has been out for more than a year. Adding insult to injury... required 1 month data plan(which in itself is RIDICULOUS). NO Thank you, Motorola just ruined it, period.
I can only hope it was an intentional leak/doctored photo. Because of this, I thought i would never say this, being a huge open source supporter(and big google supporter), i think i will hold of and get an ipad 2. Knowing Apple, the Ipad 2 will have very similar specs, new features, cheaper price point (and most likely to adopt an even cheaper price point, maybe ~50$ cheaper than current generation?)
Disheartened....

Engadget wrote about the month of service too:
engadget.com/2011/02/06/verizon-locking-wifi-on-motorola-xoom-until-you-buy-one-month-of/
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complain on their facebook page.
you won't be alone. a ton of pricing complains on their xoom thread.
I think i've figured it out... moto uses really expensive plastic. Atrix dock is $500. i guess i'm stupid for thinking they could make a wifi only xoom for $500.
silly me ;P

The Galaxy Tab needed to be activated too unless you knew the up/down, up/down, etc/etc backdoor to skip activation.
There's probably a back door to the Xoom too.

Can't wait to see how Canadians get screwed over by this. I'm looking forward to see what others bring at MWC in the next week or so.

[Q] Should I upgrade now?

Hey guys, this is my first post on these forums.
Lately, I have been trying to figure out if I should upgrade to the Atrix now, or wait until the iPhone 5 comes out. Right now I have an iPhone 3GS. Android in general has been intriguing me. I've had an iPhone since it first came out, and have said since that I could never imagine using any other type of phone, but right now I think I'd welcome the change. I just don't know if I should upgrade now or not.
Obviously, the next iPhone will have the dual-core A5 processor, possibly 4G, a bigger screen, and a better camera. It just comes down to OS.
AT&T is the worst carrier of Android phones. But the Atrix looks really good. It hits that sweet spot of screen size and it won't look like I'm holding a brick to my face every time I make a phone call.
If I were to get the Atrix I'd root it and put Gingerblur on it. I love stock Android. If the LG G2X was on AT&T I'd jump right on it. That phone looks beautiful.
I just need help deciding if I should either:
1) Upgrade soon and get the Atrix.
2) Wait for the iPhone 5.
3) Wait for an even better Android phone to be released on AT&T.
My requirements for upgrading are for it to have 4G and probably not a Samsung device, because I've heard they take the longest to upgrade. Like I said, I love stock Android, but I also like HTC Sense and my least favorite is Motoblur. However I don't find this as much of an issue since it can be changed using Gingerblur.
Any opinions would be appreciated, especially from iPhone converts.
Thanks!

I got a IPhone 4g from bell, was 149.99 at BestBuy (canada)
Jailbroke it, Played around with the camera/pictures. Even though its jail broken it still has limitations
Got BORING fast...Two days after the purchase I returned it and picked up an atrix.
This thing is not fully cracked open yet (development with the bootloader.)
Atrix > Iphone
Atrix has a bigger and better community I find compare to Itouch/Iphone websites. Once this bootloader is cracked open. It’s going to be pouring on these forums of New Apps and hardware tweaks etc.
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IPhone 5g WILL be more secure than the IPad 2 and the IPhone 4g 4.3.1 update.
Causing jailbreaking harder to accomplish.

I used to jailbreak but haven't done it in a long time. Too much hassle. I always get worried about freezing my phone and then spending hours restoring and getting everything back into place.
Android not even being rooted is more open than iOS.
By the way, I have the unlimited data plan on my iPhone. If I get the Atrix, can I keep it?

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I used to jailbreak but haven't done it in a long time. Too much hassle. I always get worried about freezing my phone and then spending hours restoring and getting everything back into place.
Android not even being rooted is more open than iOS.
By the way, I have the unlimited data plan on my iPhone. If I get the Atrix, can I keep it?
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Yes, you can keep your unlimited data. Don't let any salespeople tell you anything else. And no special 4g data plan crap.
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for you i would think you should get an inspire just because
1) it has sense
2)it has a slight ios feel so their won't be a huge learning curve
3)can load custom ROM'S so it is more future-proof
4)has a WAY BETTER camera
5)battery life isn't to bad if you use a good kernel
6)has better support than the atrix
those are the reasons i think that you would like the inspire and are also the reasons i want an inspire instead of the atrix except #2 because after using android im never going back to ios

Well, two things. If I get the unlimited data, can I also get the 200 text for $5? Or will I only be able to get the 1000 text for $10?
And I don't really want the Inspire because it's just too big, and I know it's silly, but I want a device with a dual-core processor.

I was pretty much in your situation a few weeks ago. I was coming from an iPhone 3G and decided to go with the Atrix. I checked out all the new phones, and the Atrix was the best option.
In my opinion this is a really nice, quality phone. Now that I have had it for a week or so, I can definitely say I am glad I made the switch to Android. While it does take a little getting used to, it is just sooo nice being able to have some actual control. One thing I will say though, is that Motoblur is pretty terrible. It sounds like you already plan on taking care of that though if you get the phone.
My advice would be to grab an Atrix from Amazon Wireless for $99, you won't be disappointed. The iOS is just so boring in comparison, and I doubt that whatever the iPhone 5 uses will be much of a departure from what it is currently running.
Edit: I saw somewhere that Best Buy was having a sale for $29.99, in case that may sway your decision one way or the other.
-Doogs™

Option 3.........

But atrix now. When iphone 5 comes out
Sell atrix on craigslist and but iphone 5
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MrCooper2012 said:
I was pretty much in your situation a few weeks ago. I was coming from an iPhone 3G and decided to go with the Atrix. I checked out all the new phones, and the Atrix was the best option.
In my opinion this is a really nice, quality phone. Now that I have had it for a week or so, I can definitely say I am glad I made the switch to Android. While it does take a little getting used to, it is just sooo nice being able to have some actual control. One thing I will say though, is that Motoblur is pretty terrible. It sounds like you already plan on taking care of that though if you get the phone.
My advice would be to grab an Atrix from Amazon Wireless for $99, you won't be disappointed. The iOS is just so boring in comparison, and I doubt that whatever the iPhone 5 uses will be much of a departure from what it is currently running.
Edit: I saw somewhere that Best Buy was having a sale for $29.99, in case that may sway your decision one way or the other.
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Amazon only has it for $149. Bestbuy has it for $29 only for new customers, but I can get it for $99 from them.
And the problem with option 3 is when is AT&T going to come out with another android device?

Save your upgrade

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Save your upgrade
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I think my next phone will be an android phone. Just not the atrix. I wish the g2x was on at&t :/

Perez92 said:
I think my next phone will be an android phone. Just not the atrix. I wish the g2x was on at&t :/
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Oh well, it's not.
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Still contemplating on getting the Atrix. I keep looking around and see mixed experiences.
And is the galaxy s ii coming to at&t? it looks like a cool phone. a little large and a samsung device but i keep seeing people wanting to switch to it.

Perez92 said:
Still contemplating on getting the Atrix. I keep looking around and see mixed experiences.
And is the galaxy s ii coming to at&t? it looks like a cool phone. a little large and a samsung device but i keep seeing people wanting to switch to it.
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I have the Captivate since day 1. I have been saving my upgrade for an awesome Android phone, like SGS2 or Infuse. The issue there is that there is no exact release date yet and I'm freaking tired of waiting cause this Captivate is crap now!
This is what I did tonight.....I saw Best Buy has the Atrix on sale and I think the Inspire is still on sale, not sure. I asked if I would lose my unlimited data and if I would be charged any restocking fee if I return the phone within the 30 days. They answered NO for both. So I immediately bought the Atrix! Now I have a brand new phone for 30 days while I wait for any updates on the SGS2 and Infuse lol

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I have the Captivate since day 1. I have been saving my upgrade for an awesome Android phone, like SGS2 or Infuse. The issue there is that there is no exact release date yet and I'm freaking tired of waiting cause this Captivate is crap now!
This is what I did tonight.....I saw Best Buy has the Atrix on sale and I think the Inspire is still on sale, not sure. I asked if I would lose my unlimited data and if I would be charged any restocking fee if I return the phone within the 30 days. They answered NO for both. So I immediately bought the Atrix! Now I have a brand new phone for 30 days while I wait for any updates on the SGS2 and Infuse lol
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Both the Infuse and the SGS2 are just too big. The biggest things holding me back from the Atrix is Motoblur and the camera.
Since you upgraded and kept your unlimited data, what text messaging plan do you have? My dad only wants to upgrade as long as he doesnt have to spend more on the bill, so I'd prefer if it stayed at $35.

Perez92 said:
Both the Infuse and the SGS2 are just too big. The biggest things holding me back from the Atrix is Motoblur and the camera.
Since you upgraded and kept your unlimited data, what text messaging plan do you have? My dad only wants to upgrade as long as he doesnt have to spend more on the bill, so I'd prefer if it stayed at $35.
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You dont have to change anything on your current plan. I asked the rep at best buy and he told me everything will remain exactly as I had it. He only had to change a code on my unlimited data cause of the 4G. I have the unlimited text for family cause I have a family plan. I've always had unlimited text though even when I had my own individual account. It's a good thing to have the unlimited texting plan because it includes unlimited calling to ANY mobile (not sure if you knew that). So that allowed me to lower my minutes plan and save money in the process lol

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You dont have to change anything on your current plan. I asked the rep at best buy and he told me everything will remain exactly as I had it. He only had to change a code on my unlimited data cause of the 4G. I have the unlimited text for family cause I have a family plan. I've always had unlimited text though even when I had my own individual account. It's a good thing to have the unlimited texting plan because it includes unlimited calling to ANY mobile (not sure if you knew that). So that allowed me to lower my minutes plan and save money in the process lol
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I'm on a family plan as well. I'd love unlimited texting however I've been managing to live with 200 texts a month. I'll mention that to my dad. He's always looking on ways to save money.

I think I'm going to wait until the Galaxy S II or the iPhone 5.

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I think I'm going to wait until the Galaxy S II or the iPhone 5.
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Could be months away...

Galaxy Nexus @ 429.99

ordering one
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Galaxy-Nexus-I9250-16GB-Unlocked-Android-4-0-1-2-GHz-dual-core-/200739106754?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item2ebcfbafc2

if i hadn't just bought a SGSII i'd be all over this....

Maaaaan. Really wish they'd ship to Canada.

LOL another one, i'd bite when it hits $350

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LOL another one, i'd bite when it hits $350
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The wait game never ends.. you will see sgs3 around by then...

still here lot of people offering for above 500 range can't understand the logic

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still here lot of people offering for above 500 range can't understand the logic
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yup, they are just clearing stock before prices drop further, the deal i posted was not limited to 10-20 units though..
it was '5 sold' when I posted the link, '9 sold' by the time I made the purchase... and now it says '100 sold'

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still here lot of people offering for above 500 range can't understand the logic
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People are money hungry I guess, and some are stupid for not checking here first or any other sites for that matter.
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Will this work on T Mous 3g or 4g?
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Will this work on T Mous 3g or 4g?
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Im sure it will its gsm unlocked .
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Will this work on T Mous 3g or 4g?
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It's a penta-band HSPA+ phone, so it should work on T-Mo (and most HSPA network around the world). T-Mo doesn't really have a true 4G network; in their marketing terms, HSPA+ = 4G.

enigma00 said:
It's a penta-band HSPA+ phone, so it should work on T-Mo (and most HSPA network around the world). T-Mo doesn't really have a true 4G network; in their marketing terms, HSPA+ = 4G.
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3.5G rounds up.
I'll confirm HSPA+ works. Speed Test was 10Mbps+. Checked out a co-workers.
Anyone know what build they are sending out?

I really want to bite on this but I'm trying not to. If it was in the three hundred range I would have jumped.
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uranis said:
I really want to bite on this but I'm trying not to. If it was in the three hundred range I would have jumped.
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you don't say !!

madnav said:
you don't say !!
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think it would drop more sooner rather than later, or wise to pick it up now?

uranis said:
think it would drop more sooner rather than later, or wise to pick it up now?
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HTC One X was a reason, thus it dropped from ~500+
Next reason is SGS III
which may not be around the market for another 2months..
But then one may want SGS III...
you can wait 2months and then decide... or compromise $30-50 price difference now and enjoy this nexus for next two months
On a different topic,
my recent device history is:
Vibrant -> Atrix -> SGS II -> Nexus S
I had SGS II and Nexus S simultaneously and I kept Nexus for its stability and curved display(feels much better than flat one). It is as snappy as sgsII and only part where I have to wait for the phone to process is when it is processing panaroma.
I really do not require an upgrade but still i'm going for gnexus as im excited to try what google has on platter with this one.
Considering I kept SGS based Nexus S over SGSII, it is highly likely that I will still stick to Gnexus despite of sgsIII launch.

madnav said:
HTC One X was a reason, thus it dropped from ~500+
Next reason is SGS III
which may not be around the market for another 2months..
But then one may want SGS III...
you can wait 2months and then decide... or compromise $30-50 price difference now and enjoy this nexus for next two months
On a different topic,
my recent device history is:
Vibrant -> Atrix -> SGS II -> Nexus S
I had SGS II and Nexus S simultaneously and I kept Nexus for its stability and curved display(feels much better than flat one). It is as snappy as sgsII and only part where I have to wait for the phone to process is when it is processing panaroma.
I really do not require an upgrade but still i'm going for gnexus as im excited to try what google has on platter with this one.
Considering I kept SGS based Nexus S over SGSII, it is highly likely that I will still stick to Gnexus despite of sgsIII launch.
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This is the price trend of the G Nexus, which is the worst I've seen on a nexus phone, yeah buy one, by the time the GS3 and iphone 5 are out this phone will not worth crap. I'd give this one a $300 price range in 2 months.
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madnav said:
HTC One X was a reason, thus it dropped from ~500+
Next reason is SGS III
which may not be around the market for another 2months..
But then one may want SGS III...
you can wait 2months and then decide... or compromise $30-50 price difference now and enjoy this nexus for next two months
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meh i just got the one x off contract, i could wait. Just was always interested in a google phone. Idk why it's just a guilty pleasure that i wanted in my hands since the nexus s and now i have the money to spend.
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This is the price trend of the G Nexus, which is the worst I've seen on a nexus phone, yeah buy one, by the time the GS3 and iphone 5 are out this phone will not worth crap. I'd give this one a $300 price range in 2 months.
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wow thats a huge dip in a short time, really never seen that for a phone. is the gnex that bad? i highly doubt it, but wow.

you can buy them locally for $350-$400 too, I dont find this as the best deal in the world, but its still pretty good.

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you can buy them locally for $350-$400 too, I dont find this as the best deal in the world, but its still pretty good.
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This is the best online deal I have come across so far.
As far xda market trend, hardly anyone is willing to sell one below 450-480 despite of this deal being in place (an many other deals below 450 for quite a long)
PS: Members will be grateful if someone can purchase them locally for ~350 and sale on xda at that price; unfortunately nothing of that sort has happened yet..

One of my favorite features and reasons to buy unlocked

I'm here in the US using an AT&T sim. I am so sick of the terrible carriers putting their little fingers and logos into all these devices.
My least favorite of these new things is the carrier logo in the top left of the notification shade.
This is a gross mis-use of the notification bar and AT&T and Verizon and the rest need to knock it off.
I'm happy (really really really happy) to report that the N7100 does NOT do this. Love it!
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My International Note 1 does not have this either
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Hummm.... My locked Note (purchased from T-Mobile), does not say "T-Mobile" anywhere in the notification bar either. It's one of the first things I noticed when I bought it a couple of months ago.
It does have a permanently-emblazoned T-Mobile logo painted on it directly below the earpiece though
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Is LTE speed the only reason to buy a carrier branded note?
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Is LTE speed the only reason to buy a carrier branded note?
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I was wondering the same thing.

ROB281 said:
Is LTE speed the only reason to buy a carrier branded note?
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For me LTE is huge as AT&T is extremely fast around here. Faster than my Fios connection. That plus I'm due for an upgrade so I'll pay the greatly reduced price for the device.

I dunno about you... but that's not true on my HTC Sensation... also it might be from the manufacturer (at least you know who's network you are on if you're roaming).
I don't think I've ever seen that... Then again, I don't usually buy Samsung phones

I really really despise carrier branding..... Are US carriers the only ones that do this?
I'm just not sure what I should do? I've always had TMO and Sprint, but lately they've been horribly slow.
So I'm also curious, IS LTE/4G the only positive for the US Note II?

LTE is nice but if it's going to make the note battery act like the battery on my gnex then I'd be willing to go without
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I wonder if threads like the OPs are just people trying to make themselves feel better for dropping $700 on a phone that can be had in 9 days for $299 (or less).
I mean, I have ATT and am ready to drop the cash on an international version, but I just can't seem to do it. I use Netflix a lot (don't worry, I pay a healthy amont for data) and it sucks mostly on my GSM GNEX. Stuttering and buffering. I just want a fast connection, and the LTE note is worth waiting 9 days on, IMO...
The 2500mAh battery on the AT&T LTE Note lasts all day.
The 3100mAh will be better. Food for thought.

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I wonder if threads like the OPs are just people trying to make themselves feel better for dropping $700 on a phone that can be had in 9 days for $299 (or less).
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You are making a lot of assumptions (price and availability date), none of which have been confirmed.
Nevertheless I agree with you on what you are trying to say.

ericshmerick said:
I wonder if threads like the OPs are just people trying to make themselves feel better for dropping $700 on a phone that can be had in 9 days for $299 (or less).
I mean, I have ATT and am ready to drop the cash on an international version, but I just can't seem to do it. I use Netflix a lot (don't worry, I pay a healthy amont for data) and it sucks mostly on my GSM GNEX. Stuttering and buffering. I just want a fast connection, and the LTE note is worth waiting 9 days on, IMO...
The 2500mAh battery on the AT&T LTE Note lasts all day.
The 3100mAh will be better. Food for thought.
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I don't like being locked into a contract, especially since in Canada they're 3 years. For that reason alone it's not worth going for the subsidized phone, for my needs anyways.
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Slap-Yourself :) said:
I really really despise carrier branding..... Are US carriers the only ones that do this?
I'm just not sure what I should do? I've always had TMO and Sprint, but lately they've been horribly slow.
So I'm also curious, IS LTE/4G the only positive for the US Note II?
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well... considering the only carrier branding is on the back cover... if you buy a replacement battery door, you'll have a note 2 that looks like the international one...
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I wonder if threads like the OPs are just people trying to make themselves feel better for dropping $700 on a phone that can be had in 9 days for $299 (or less).
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Maybe for you... I've got to pay full retail for mines ($650-$700) and if you think about it, that's how much you pay too over the length of your contract (don't get fooled by marketing tricks... that's why I despise american carriers.)

Maybe for you... I've got to pay full retail for mines ($650-$700) and if you think about it, that's how much you pay too over the length of your contract (don't get fooled by marketing tricks... that's why I despise american carriers.)
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But you still need service of some kind, which isn't free. I pay $48/month for seemingly unlimited rollover minutes (like 3000+) and 5gig of tethering data (200 texts) and free M2M on ATT. I have a company discount.
I know many readers are't in the US and don't have an add a line, but it's very cheap for me to keep ATT, contract or not. The monthly fee is higher every where else for me.
I mean I get the "well you are paying $2,000 for that phone!" arguments, but really you need to add in the cost of any service unless you are using it 100% on wifi (which nobody does). Add that in with a full non-contract price phone and then post.

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But you still need service of some kind, which isn't free. I pay $48/month for seemingly unlimited rollover minutes (like 3000+) and 5gig of tethering data (200 texts) and free M2M on ATT. I have a company discount.
I know many readers are't in the US and don't have an add a line, but it's very cheap for me to keep ATT, contract or not. The monthly fee is higher every where else for me.
I mean I get the "well you are paying $2,000 for that phone!" arguments, but really you need to add in the cost of any service unless you are using it 100% on wifi (which nobody does). Add that in with a full non-contract price phone and then post.
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Well, I'm on T-Mobile's Value plan which is a 2 year plan w/o any subsidies but you save enough for 1.5 phones... although your plan sounds pretty decent... either it's grandfathered or you've got some sick company discount, but in either case, the phone wouldn't be $300 for you... that would require a 2 year commitment (not sure how they handle grandfathered plans)

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well... considering the only carrier branding is on the back cover... if you buy a replacement battery door, you'll have a note 2 that looks like the international one...
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Well, do you think they'll be interchangeable? Weren't the back covers different between the AT&T and International ones different? (Looked the same but weren't interchangeable)

ROB281 said:
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Yep, the only reason. I can understand why it's a great thing for people to use LTE, but personally I have wifi everywhere I go and I barely use my monthly data. Even though in some cases LTE can be faster than wifi, wifi is plenty fast for anything you wanna do. So I prefer the international version for development support. But the development for the LTE versions shouldn't be too bad either since they're using the same SoC.

For me HSPA+ is plenty......haven't been on a contract in 4 years. Straight Talk service is LEGIT everywhere i go.....so besides getting the phone early, that is the reason i buy unlocked. Could really care less about carrier branding.

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Well, do you think they'll be interchangeable? Weren't the back covers different between the AT&T and International ones different? (Looked the same but weren't interchangeable)
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Which phone are you talking about? I think the Note II should be safe as the only thing they added between the models was just a different LTE chip (or not even if it was just a matter of flashing a new radio). I mean everything's pretty much the same in terms of specs so they didn't do any radical re-engineering, also the flip covers also replace the back cover, so if you get one of those that should remove the branding (at least on the T-Mo and AT&T ones, who knows what the Verizon one will look like). Just don't buy a fake as the NFC chip is in the back.