Hi !
As from the title I would know if anyone could interested to start a petition to bring opera mobile 11 to windows mobile. I think that the choice of opera of excluding windows mobile is quite insane. They have supported every single mobile platform ( even symbian 2nd which is extra old ) and not windows mobile while still a lot of users continue to have devices with windows mobile.
What do you think ?
that can be interesting.
useless, effortless, timevasting... but as Don Quichotte, this can be, well... interesting. But, as WM 6.x is dead, it will be certainly a fight against windmills !
I've been using both Opera 10 as well as Opera Mini on my Topaz. Opera Mini seems to be faster than 10. So should we pester Opera for Opera 11 for our devices?
Just my 2cents
Thanks
illi said:
I've been using both Opera 10 as well as Opera Mini on my Topaz. Opera Mini seems to be faster than 10. So should we pester Opera for Opera 11 for our devices?
Just my 2cents
Thanks
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But in my understanding the mobile version delivers the whole web page to the device, which sounds like it should have some advantages? I don't hold out much hope for this but I'm behind it all the same, I'd definitely pay for a good browser with pinch to zoom and full flash.
to the OP: have you seen the arora browser port which is going on in the HD2 Apps forum? I'm hoping this will let us forget Opera!
hii
I m using Opera 11 and it is working f9 in my phone.
newmobilesco said:
I m using Opera 11 and it is working f9 in my phone.
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Can you give the link to download Opera 11
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I figured this would be up on the board by now...
Opera has announced Opera Mobile 9.5. It will support Flash, if the OEM chooses to include Flash Lite 3.0.
I figure someone on here will incorporate it in about 9.5 hours.
Official specs:
http://www.opera.com/b2b/file/Opera_Mobile_Product_Sheet.pdf
There is no Flash lite 3 on Windows Mobile for anyone to implement. There isn't even a Developers' edition.
i guess im still holding out for skyfire....with the way it renders pages, isnt it supposed to do full flash, java and everything as we see it on our desktops?
Seems pretty fast to me:
http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/05/video-opera-mobile-9-5-redesign-is-lickity-quick-slick/
Makes PIE look like complete rubbish, which it is.
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i guess im still holding out for skyfire....with the way it renders pages, isnt it supposed to do full flash, java and everything as we see it on our desktops?
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9.5 will have full flash on symbian s60 only at the moment as this the only os with fl3.0. already available on some devices
leoni1980 said:
9.5 will have full flash on symbian s60 only at the moment as this the only os with fl3.0. already available on some devices
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You quoted me Leoni, but I wasnt referring to Opera, I was referring to the new beta Skyfire browser that will be out pretty soon hopefully. They demoed it and were streaming youtube videos from the full pc version of youtube on the demo phone.
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There is no Flash lite 3 on Windows Mobile for anyone to implement. There isn't even a Developers' edition.
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Like I emphasized in my post, it will be there if the OEM chooses, and others here beat me to saying the Nokia already has it.
No dev edition? Get it here: http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashlite3/
I downloaded it 2 months ago. Edit: I expect it to be WinMo ready soon if Opera says it will be a feature in OM 9.5.... for WinMo.
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Like I emphasized in my post, it will be there if the OEM chooses, and others here beat me to saying the Nokia already has it.
No dev edition? Get it here: http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashlite3/
I downloaded it 2 months ago. Edit: I expect it to be WinMo ready soon if Opera says it will be a feature in OM 9.5.... for WinMo.
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Its only for Symbian OS v3 and Windows XP. It can be ported to run on linux.
See FAQ here
http://www.adobe.com/products/flashlite/faq/ Look at the 6th and 7th questions.
Therefore, no FL3 for winmo platform, and this has been clarified by an Adobe representative.
The faq just says that Symbian and XP are the reference platforms. Nothing says it won't be ported to WinMo, just that it won't be a reference platform (certified by Adobe so comparison tests can be run against other platforms). The pdf I linked to above clearly says that OM 9.5 will be available on WinMo (upper right corner of 2nd page), and that it will support FL 3.0 (lower left of 2nd page).
Do you have a reference to the clarification from Adobe?
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The faq just says that Symbian and XP are the reference platforms. Nothing says it won't be ported to WinMo, just that it won't be a reference platform (certified by Adobe so comparison tests can be run against other platforms). The pdf I linked to above clearly says that OM 9.5 will be available on WinMo (upper right corner of 2nd page), and that it will support FL 3.0 (lower left of 2nd page).
Do you have a reference to the clarification from Adobe?
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I had posted a link for Adobe's clarification before,but that link is broken now.
Opera 9.5 is capable of having FL3, but only if the OEM integrates them. HTC device running winmo does not have FL3 to do so AFAIK,
Which brings us back to my first post - its possible, HTC could do it with future devices (or someone else will come out with FL 3 on WinMo) and then someone on this board will port it for us.
My bet is the next Athena will be WinMo 6.1 w/Opera 9.x and FL 3.
Skyfire does look appealing and will be released soon. It uses a proxy server (like opera mini) to render not only the page itself but also the java/flash content. This makes me worry about whether the possible popularity of the application - which is being released on both Winmo AND Symbian - might cause slowness and unreliablity owing to the enormous bandwidth required. I think i'd sooner have an embedded flash plugin and a normal browser (like Opera Mini), but i'll give them both a whirl!
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Skyfire does look appealing and will be released soon. It uses a proxy server (like opera mini) to render not only the page itself but also the java/flash content. This makes me worry about whether the possible popularity of the application - which is being released on both Winmo AND Symbian - might cause slowness and unreliablity owing to the enormous bandwidth required. I think i'd sooner have an embedded flash plugin and a normal browser (like Opera Mini), but i'll give them both a whirl!
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I'd have some concern if it uses proxy server. I won't want to do internet banking or online shopping with it. I'd rather see all rendering to be done on the device itself. Also, I'm not sure if a proxy server set up would end up attracting subscription fee in the long run. Surely someone has to pay for the server side expenditure.
hi!
when will it come out? looking foward to test it!
deiota
Deiota said:
hi!
when will it come out? looking foward to test it!
deiota
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"Unveiled" on February 11-14. Don't know when it is available to the public though. However, I think it should not be too long after that.
http://www.mobilehornet.com/archives/983
I can't wait to try!
Hi everyone!
I just got off the phone with nice gentleman named Tom Ford from Opera. He is closely involved in the 9.5 project. He want us to know that a numbers of issues such as pricing
and upgrading from the current version have yet to be decided. I expressed our excitement over the opportunity to be involved in the beta testing which he seemed to find really encouraging. He's going to keep us closely informed in the process leadinq up to the beta release. I gave him my email address and I'll share with everyone any information he sends me. This is all I have right now. He may decide to post the info himself but if not, when he emails me I would gladly pass on any questions you might have
-David
Welcome to the forums David - nice first post, keep us informed of aany further news, I'd certainly be interested if they need beta testers!
If Opera 9.5 on the desktop (see demo here http://cybernetnews.com/2007/09/03/cybernotes-exclusive-opera-95-features-video/ and the software here http://www.opera.com/download/index.dml?ver=9.50b) is an indication of what we could expect from the PPC version, then I'd be estatic! The speed is incredible. I've just installed desktop 9.5 on my PC and I cannot believe how fast it could be as compared to internet explorer on my Vista notebook, or the earlier version of desktop opera.
I also like the new features such as speed dial and ability to recover closed opera windows from the trashcan. This is a hugh improvement over the earlier version of desktop opera.
So, I'm looking forward to that hugh leap improvement on the window mobile too.
Ill have to give the desktop version a try.
I was reading on here the other day about opera mobile 9.5 being released soon. Well, I cant find the post about it so I will just spread the news that I have found.
Taken from here http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9866002-7.html?tag=nefd.lede
Quite possibly for the first time, Opera Software will receive real pressure in the mobile-browser space from Firefox Mobile and Skyfire.
Like Opera's cell phone browser, Opera Mini (video), both newcomers are free. However, Opera Mobile, which serves Windows Mobile and Symbian S60 phones, is a commercial product that smartphone users may not want to pay for when handed alternatives gratis.
How does Opera plan to keep current customers and attract new ones when consumers face a choice between paying $24 and $0? I asked the Opera folks if they would consider making Opera Mobile free in anticipation of or in response to oncoming competition.
I must say, I really like diggin around in this community. Quite informative.
And Kudos to Helmi and Xplode especially.
-Waitin on 6.1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgO1lls1NLE
damn impressive and fast. windows mobile interface is totaly hidden.
anybody working on porting this to our devices. i hope the non-standard screen resolution doent slow development on this thing
flash
http://www.meizu.com/cn/Taste.html
the keyboard and some of the integrated apps in the video look good too.
hope this gets enough interest from the developers here
that's because it's not running Windows Mobile, it's running its own OS based on Windows CE 6.
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that's because it's not running Windows Mobile, it's running its own OS based on Windows CE 6.
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I seemed to see there S2P and TCPMP?
And have multi touch screen like iPhone !
i´m impressed, can´t believe this is windows mobile, so they did a good job. the phone has a 3,4 zoll display with 720x480 Pixel ! and a ARM-Prozessor with 800 Megahertz (SPEEED) !!! But no 3G
The GUI or OS or whatever is unbelievable smoth fast and eyecandy. I´m just wondering why they use windows ce 6.0 and microsoft itself is still on windows ce 5.x ?
they used Windows CE6 probably cause Microsoft made the kernel shared source, also no GPS.
The M8 I think is still doomed, too little to late at this point.
For them to compete in the states it would of least had to be 3G with GPS.
well upgrades for this device to WM7 will be more easy because it already uses the CE6 kernel
im a noob here but
1-whats the difference between wm6 and ce?
2-tcmp was there in the video doent this make it compatible with windiws mobile
3-why are the newest htc phones are based 5.2 and this one 6.0
4-is the still UI portable if its not based on windiws mobile
this would be AMAZING to port over.
or at least make a clone of.
M8 is 2 years late. Nobody is interested in this phone anymore.
who cares about the phone. i dont think anybody cared about touch 3g or viva. but it gave us manila2d for all our other devices
its the software we're intrested in.
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this UI seems to be the fack iphone is it not?
the ones made in china?
+1 on that
this ui looks great and would really be an improvement...
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that's because it's not running Windows Mobile, it's running its own OS based on Windows CE 6.
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its not their own os, the os is windows ce. they just have their custom shell running on windows ce. windows mobile is windows ce too but with microsofts mobile shell.
Wow its so fast and responsive. No loading icons. Unbelieveable! If Windows Mobile uses the same CE but just a different shell, why do we have so many loading wait icons when obviously we have proof that it does not need to be that way? Would love to see this OS on the HTC Touch HD.
fatso485 said:
im a noob here but
1-whats the difference between wm6 and ce?
2-tcmp was there in the video doent this make it compatible with windiws mobile
3-why are the newest htc phones are based 5.2 and this one 6.0
4-is the still UI portable if its not based on windiws mobile
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1-WM 6 has only 40% (i think) of the code available for customizing, win ce 6 has 100% so full customisation is possible.
2-some winmo apps run on the M8 a tester showed screens of Igo 8. So some will work, others not.
3-wince6 will be used for winmo 7
4-ui may not be portable as it has been said is a full customisation of wince. It touches part that are not accesible in winmo.
windows mobile 6 is based on windows ce 5 and window mobile 7 will base on windows ce 6. mmh but how can a small chinese company blame microsoft with this better and newer OS ?. So no chance for porting this to wm6.
I am pretty sure it's their own propietary OS based on Windows 6 CE kernel not just a shell, this is what has been said over at meizume.com
I just don't want people thinking this is just going to be straight up Windows 6 CE with just a pretty GUI on top of it. Though since it is still based on CE 6, I guess it depends on what kinda terminology you use for shell.
The CEO is looking to market the OS to developers to make proprietary software and app store and so forth..though I don't see that catching on real well.
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its not their own os, the os is windows ce. they just have their custom shell running on windows ce. windows mobile is windows ce too but with microsofts mobile shell.
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The Meizu is a good phone but it is a long time he had to leave, they refer each time leaving probably because of complaints from apple
its seems flashplayer 10 wont be hitting the 6.5 at all due to the new coming windows phone 7, seems money talks thats what its looking like well this is the real world yes it is because of money, but then who can come up with a cab file with flashplayer 10, or you can just go ahead and spend some money on the new windows phone 7 with flashplayer 10, just wondering the poor peaple are asking,
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its seems flashplayer 10 wont be hitting the 6.5 at all due to the new coming windows phone 7, seems money talks thats what its looking like well this is the real world yes it is because of money, but then who can come up with a cab file with flashplayer 10, or you can just go ahead and spend some money on the new windows phone 7 with flashplayer 10, just wondering the poor peaple are asking,
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Windows Mobile 6.5 will be the new 'classic', MS has no plans to retire the OS just because of Windows Phone 7. So yes Flash 10 will come to WM 6.5 eventually.
What now?
http://www.favbrowser.com/opera-mobile-for-windows-mobile-discontinued/
Maybe this: http://www.uzard.com/en/solutions/uzardweb_p.asp
Windows Mobile is more dead with every day... Skyfire, Opera Mobile turned back from WM, who is next?
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Windows Mobile is more dead with every day... Skyfire, Opera Mobile turned back from WM, who is next?
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It's not dead. It's in a bit of stasis. People are still developing for it. XDA developers in particular are doing a great job.
Some people still like WM. It works for me just fine. Opera is the killer app for me on the HD2.
To be honest, I am not surprised. Opera 9.7 is still the best web browser for me. I wish they would continue to support it and integrate a new flash compatibility pack/cab.
The money though is with Android and Apple hence why the non support. I wish though they could provide a source code for us developers to continue to support it with modifications.