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Possible?
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/8498.html
I don't believe.....
doministry said:
Possible?
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/8498.html
I don't believe.....
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doministry,
Very unlikely. I don't see Windows Mobile going anywhere soon.
Cheers.
lol also note this was not from MS, but from some other online magazine whose members carry either iphones or blackberries lol
LOL not a chance. I believe in the ZunePhone or WinPhone more than this.
Edward is a bit of a nut-job. almost all his stories irritates me
loool @ the coments of the story
headline should read "Microsoft denies killing WinMo, despite moron predictions."
Edward is such an annoying jackass. all his opinions on things are retarded. just ignoor him everyone hes a kid
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What a load of balognie
Windows Mobile will be gone because Windows 8 or 9 will run on both your desktop and your mobile device.
harolds said:
Windows Mobile will be gone because Windows 8 or 9 will run on both your desktop and your mobile device.
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lol true that, by then some genius will find a code as to how to create a system to run on both pc and mobile, and keep the os under 150MB
i hope you see the sarcasm lol
spikegotti said:
lol true that, by then some genius will find a code as to how to create a system to run on both pc and mobile, and keep the os under 150MB
i hope you see the sarcasm lol
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MinWin is under 25MB
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Windows Mobile will be gone because Windows 8 or 9 will run on both your desktop and your mobile device.
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I hope so.
winmin is just a core dude, not a full os, if it was, then windows 7 wont be on dvd
i can never picture an os with a neat gui and sexy animations at 25MB on the smartphone market, maybe when im old n grey
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Windows Mobile will be gone because Windows 8 or 9 will run on both your desktop and your mobile device.
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Who knows but currently I don't believe
Mobile hardware will ever = desktop one.
Lol. Why you talkin' bout 25 or 150 MB?!? 16 GB on your phone is not really anything special TODAY. Think about where we've been 2 or 3 years ago - 1 GB was quite good. -> In two years, our mobiles will have 256 GB. Why would you care if Win 7 (or 8, by then) uses 9 or 10 GB?
Both of those articles are fluff and full of speculation. It sounds like an anti-MS article. Typical journalism where one writes a sensationalized article that has no substance behind it. Why is it that Android and WebOS can start from scratch and gain market share, but WM7 can't ?
I do believe that MS has it's work cut out for it though. In general media, WM barely gets mentioned in the same breath as other stuff on the market (Apple, Android, WebOS. Blackberry). However, of all those companies, Microsoft has the most resources and tricks up it's sleeve. It has the leverage of the other markets it dominates such as Exchange, Windows desktop, Zune (not dominate ), XBox, Bing/Yahoo, etc (Apple has Mac -> iPod -> iTunes-> iPhone). I see no basis on why MS would just quit and give up...hell, they just bought out Yahoo search!
harolds said:
Windows Mobile will be gone because Windows 8 or 9 will run on both your desktop and your mobile device.
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I think MS has learned it's lesson to NOT put a desktop OS into a small mobile device (they've been there, done that ). A mobile device needs an OS specifically designed for mobile devices. Maybe some things "under the hood" can be similar to make it easy for developers. MS would be smart at integrating Zune and WM7, which I think they're doing.
OMG! Windows Mobile is dead!!!!
LOL...
(in case you can't tell this is said in a sarcastic tone)
lmao if Windows Mobile was to expire, then Windows Mobile 7 and 6.5 wouldn't have even be announced.
poetryrocksalot said:
lmao if Windows Mobile was to expire, then Windows Mobile 7 and 6.5 wouldn't have even be announced.
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Well I'm not claiming anything,
however you miss the point - the article says "IN 2 YEARS"
so 6.5 and 7 are now, so not related.
In business nobody quits or stops anything immediately in one day,
it's a long process.
We are talking about microsoft here. a company that will lose money just to keep there place (and try and make it to number one) in a market.
i got one word : XBOX
have a look how much money they have lost to keep it on the market, and now it has a big part (although the xbox360 will end up last in sells. they still pumping money into it and having the name recognized).
The thing with WM is that microsoft did not see it as important till the iphone came out and now they are spending alot of time and money on the os and apps(6.5 pushing it more into the main market, and seven putting it up with the top user friendly os).
I don't want to see Microsoft fail. I see more and more Mac users and iPhone owners at my school, everyday.
Now wouldn't that be the ****
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Iconia W500.
What's next for the ultimate HD2
Wouldn't that be something if windows ran on the iconic HD2 that i just sold for my sensation LOL. I'll never unestimate the power of that device
infrared_guy said:
Wouldn't that be something if windows ran on the iconic HD2 that i just sold for my sensation LOL. I'll never unestimate the power of that device
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Truthfully, I think that might be the first thing that the devs can't pull off... The again, Windows 8 will have ARM support (read: no legacy apps, where 99.9% of windows x86/64 bit).... so we'll wait and See.
Dont get your hopes up, its closed source.
most likely, it's not happin'n
I tend to agree that it won't happen, people will try, they might make progress but it seems unlikely.
I think I'd rather just wait for official Windows 8 tablet hardware. They'll no doubt be superior (since most will run Tegra 3 if not 4), and who knows what they'll do with the digitizers. I'm hopeful that we'll get a Wacom digitizer that handles both capacitive touch and resistive with extensive pressure sensitivity for use in digital illustration. Time will tell.
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I think I'd rather just wait for official Windows 8 tablet hardware. They'll no doubt be superior (since most will run Tegra 3 if not 4), and who knows what they'll do with the digitizers. I'm hopeful that we'll get a Wacom digitizer that handles both capacitive touch and resistive with extensive pressure sensitivity for use in digital illustration. Time will tell.
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Yeah but how about W8 running on a 100$ piece of hardware? I mean how inexpensive can you get?
Why do people worry so much about Windows ARM version not running legacy apps?? New apps will be created for Windows 8 that integrate with Metro, I'm pretty sure that all respectable software companies and even independent developers are starting to plan and make ARM based apps for Windows 8. Windows 8 will be powerful, and software companies need to start developing the next generation of applications eventually.
ARM is the future, x86 is done and I refuse to buy an Intel tablet or next gen AMD all-in-one. And please don't tell me you want to open your excel spreadsheet on your tablet on your way home on the train, on, cause it's not 'cool'. /vent
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Why do people worry so much about Windows ARM version not running legacy apps?? New apps will be created for Windows 8 that integrate with Metro, I'm pretty sure that all respectable software companies and even independent developers are starting to plan and make ARM based apps for Windows 8. Windows 8 will be powerful, and software companies need to start developing the next generation of applications eventually.
ARM is the future, x86 is done and I refuse to buy an Intel tablet or next gen AMD all-in-one. And please don't tell me you want to open your excel spreadsheet on your tablet on your way home on the train, on, cause it's not 'cool'. /vent
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Don't you know the difference between Legacy apps and New apps?
and for your information, ARM may or may not be the future. Only time will tell.
dalethefarmer said:
ARM is the future, x86 is done and I refuse to buy an Intel tablet or next gen AMD all-in-one. And please don't tell me you want to open your excel spreadsheet on your tablet on your way home on the train, on, cause it's not 'cool'. /vent
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Please... x86 isn't going anywhere for a long time.
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jasongw said:
I think I'd rather just wait for official Windows 8 tablet hardware. They'll no doubt be superior (since most will run Tegra 3 if not 4), and who knows what they'll do with the digitizers. I'm hopeful that we'll get a Wacom digitizer that handles both capacitive touch and resistive with extensive pressure sensitivity for use in digital illustration. Time will tell.
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Win 8 doesn't have support for Tegra yet.
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Win 8 doesn't have support for Tegra yet.
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yet. it will get arm support and then some. windows 8 looks more mature than android 3.0 and i love android.
i am using WP7 on my HD2 and it is kinda growing on me. Looks like microsoft is finally doing something right
I Can't wait till the ARM version leaks, or will it ever since it's not going to be sold as a standalone?
inasar said:
yet. it will get arm support and then some. windows 8 looks more mature than android 3.0 and i love android.
i am using WP7 on my HD2 and it is kinda growing on me. Looks like microsoft is finally doing something right
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Mikey$oft doing something right?
Well I had faith in them when I got my HD7 running WP7 and installed Windows 7 for the first time.... Basically they had me from the 'Start'
But to be honest I'm using Windows 8 now and I can't explain it but it just 'feels' different, kinda like my cell phone and PC had a baby.
Well I know that the hp touchpad wont be able to run it. A developer said it would be impossible.
I really dont think microsoft will allow you to load win 8 tablet on any tablet, im sure there going to try and control everything
DemiNutive said:
Mikey$oft doing something right?
Well I had faith in them when I got my HD7 running WP7 and installed Windows 7 for the first time.... Basically they had me from the 'Start'
But to be honest I'm using Windows 8 now and I can't explain it but it just 'feels' different, kinda like my cell phone and PC had a baby.
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Please tell me how you flashed win 7 i am noob here
Well, would you look at that!
HP Testing Windows 8 on TouchPads
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/10/24/hp-testing-windows-8-on-touchpads
bigboy292000 said:
Well, would you look at that!
HP Testing Windows 8 on TouchPads
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/10/24/hp-testing-windows-8-on-touchpads
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Saw that earlier today as well... hoping that gets leaked too.
Windows 8 on the Touchpad would be great.
Has anyone heard of a win8 arm beta program?
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Hey guys,
i want to buy a tablet with 3G connection soon and planning to spend not more than 350€ / 460$.
Which tablet would you buy to install windows 8 cp ?
Thx for your help!
Cheers
TOmatoe
Do you know the WePad or ExoPC?
Just google a little bit & find out if it is soemthing for you.
I bought it one week ago and upgraded it with 2GB ram + 80GB SSD.
Win8 works quiet well on the pad, and it has the necessarry resulution for the split screen function where a second programm is shown on a third of the screnn size.
thx for the hint. I read very good and very bad ratings for the WeTab. Battery Life has too be very weak and the touchscreen is not very reative i read.
Does 3G / WLan work on WeTab with Windows 8?
I am looking for a reactive, snappy Tablet.
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The first post was written with my WeTab under WiFi.
And this post using my mobile phone sim from my HD7 (3 Austria)
The touch behavior under W8 is excellent in my opinion.
Only the g-sensor isn't working correct at the moment and the light sensor is a bit strange sometimes. Haven't tested Bluetooth & HDMI so far.
I'm using Windows 8, Android 3.2.2, Android 4.0.3 and Ubuntu 12.04 Beta on the tab for testing and application development at the moment.
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Changed back from Ubuntu 12.04 LTS ==> 11.10 due to touchscreen driver instabilities
I also have to buy a tablet and I would like to have Windows and Intel compatibility with Microsoft's worldwide, recommended buying now a windows 7 compatible with windows 8 in the future, or wait for the release of Windows 8? I saw the hp 2, it recommended? know other tablet?
suggest
I suggest you wait for the final release before buying a tablet.
Have tried it on HP Slate 2 , only not working properly is the N-Trig and it cannot detect your Sim Card for 3G connection.
for now windows 8 is in beta test, i think this problem there are because windows 8 are not final.
i would like to buy hp to use for now with windows 7 and after with windows 8 but i don't know if this hp will be ok for new windows 8.
at the moment which tablet would you recommend to buy to use with windows 7, 3G, Wifi??
I live in italy, where i can buy wetab???
high_speed said:
I live in italy, where i can buy wetab???
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Try ebay or amazon
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But which is better? Exopc or wetab?
Personally I wouldn't buy any tablet hardware currently out, especially for a consumer preview. Wait until fall, when things are finalized and there are some good tablets at reasonable prices, specifically designed for Windows 8. Then you'll be in a far better position to get the best hardware with native support, the features you want, at a price you'll be comfortable paying. Patience is a virtue
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1524467
Asked the same question myself.
dhgate.com have some great value tabs. ~$300 US (with $30 off at the moment) for a 1.66 atom 2gb ram and 32gb ssd.
In my opinion for the price why not go for it, in fact i'm about to.
http://www.dhgate.com/9-7-quot-capa...b-win/p-ff80808133cfdacc01340a63cc4c7cc1.html
you can always run android on it or whatever you want if win8 doesn't work out.
I'm going to have a play with one of these then maybe invest on a WoA version when they come out. The Nokia one sounds pretty cool.
tomatenjungee said:
thx for the hint. I read very good and very bad ratings for the WeTab. Battery Life has too be very weak and the touchscreen is not very reative i read.
Does 3G / WLan work on WeTab with Windows 8?
I am looking for a reactive, snappy Tablet.
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If you are looking for something good, then i suggest you wait until the official windows 8 is released or atleast the RC version comes out so that manufacturers and start building tablets optimized for windows 8 that will be snappy, responsive and have long sustaining battery life. It's too early to suggest one right now. Have some patience
I personally think Win 8 is better than Android.
Windows 8 sucks, to be honest. At least on a desktop.
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I personally think Win 8 is better than Android.
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No and it's because of 3 reason
1. Arm verison of windows 8 need a "bios" aka special bootloader for it too work on devices which s3 doesnt have
2. Microsoft wouldnt let anything that runs android run windows on it instead
3. windows 8 RT will only work on specific hardware and resolutions that s3 doesnt have like 1366x768 res
boyhandsome said:
I personally think Win 8 is better than Android.
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Then buy a windows 8 phone and not android.
Personally I think windows phone is sh*t.
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I wouldn't piss my money away on a Windows 8 phone but dual boot Android/Win8 is something that's already got me salivating.
I reckon Win 8 Phones have their place in the market... At the BOTTOM... LOL. But seriously, I had my hands on some DEMO gear and its not that bad. It's good to see a more level playing field as all that really means is more CHOICE for all.
I think the question should be: will win8 phones able to run android ?
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No and it's because of 3 reason
1. Arm verison of windows 8 need a "bios" aka special bootloader for it too work on devices which s3 doesnt have
2. Microsoft wouldnt let anything that runs android run windows on it instead
3. windows 8 RT will only work on specific hardware and resolutions that s3 doesnt have like 1366x768 res
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though its not possible to port win8 to s3 due to copyright issues, your 1st and 3rd point is not true
1. bootloader is hackable
2. 1280x720 is supported in win 8 mobile
Nick14 said:
No and it's because of 3 reason
1. Arm verison of windows 8 need a "bios" aka special bootloader for it too work on devices which s3 doesnt have
2. Microsoft wouldnt let anything that runs android run windows on it instead
3. windows 8 RT will only work on specific hardware and resolutions that s3 doesnt have like 1366x768 res
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HTC HD2 also Windows, but can install Android..i think S3 can install Windows 8
bala_gamer said:
though its not possible to port win8 to s3 due to copyright issues, your 1st and 3rd point is not true
1. bootloader is hackable
2. 1280x720 is supported in win 8 mobile
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1.
http://arstechnica.com/information-...othing-or-the-end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it/
completly locked down so it's kinda a hard
2.
we got the wight but not the hight or visa verca
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/archive/2012/03/21/scaling-to-different-screens.aspx
lockmunk said:
HTC HD2 also Windows, but can install Android..i think S3 can install Windows 8
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It's like saying i got triers so they will fit a car , bike or boat.... reverse engineering is a bigger job than u think just watch the Idroid project , so just because HD2 could run windows phone 6.5 doesnt mean that my S1 will run WP7
duskdevilza said:
I reckon Win 8 Phones have their place in the market... At the BOTTOM... LOL. But seriously, I had my hands on some DEMO gear and its not that bad. It's good to see a more level playing field as all that really means is more CHOICE for all.
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well said...but keep in mind guys...HTC HD2...living proof of XDA Devs...KUDOS.
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lockmunk said:
HTC HD2 also Windows, but can install Android..i think S3 can install Windows 8
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Im not saying its not possible but I doubt many Devs will invest so much time and effort in producing a port that is partial and not effective...even the HOX port to S3 is not easy feat by any means...and keep in mind...thats Android to Android lol...
I personally think windows 8 on phone sucks....but as a tablet computer it is pretty good. If windows 8 could support all (or atleast most) of the apps for windows (.exe) it would be great, imagine loads of apps. And more over all the developing, rooting, flashing roms on android phones could be done anywhere (not literally) just via the tablet. I personally think windows 8 on a tablet would change the life of all normal pc users. As for gamers!!! and heavy duty devs, the most powerful pc is also weak.
rohan999 said:
I personally think windows 8 on phone sucks....but as a tablet computer it is pretty good. If windows 8 could support all (or atleast most) of the apps for windows (.exe) it would be great, imagine loads of apps.
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I believe apps would have to be recompiled for ARM. Right now 99% of apps would not work.
WIndows ing system is KING. But as for a phone... I think ANDROID has that title at the moment.
But I would like to have the option to have windows 8 on my phone just to play with it abit.
I wonder why any devs could not get the same framework and just change the drivers around to match that of a s3.
I mean its software on hardware. If you have the space and right kind of hardware anything i think is possible. If you know how to manipulate software very very well
<QUOTE>I believe apps would have to be recompiled for ARM. Right now 99% of apps would not work</QUOTE>
some tablets run on intel processors....so i believe they might run as usual.
Real question is as always will a Dev be bothered to try to port it .
Its never a question of users wants always developers choice .
Unless of course someone needs Windows that much they pay to have it developed privately .
Second question is how long before w8 port leads to Microsoft's lawyers gearing upfor action .
jje
buy ativ s then your problem solved
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Then buy a windows 8 phone and not android.
Personally I think windows phone is sh*t.
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WP8 and Windows 8 are not the same.
But seriously Windows 8 is a tablet OS. It is not easy to use on a 4.8inch screen.
Wp7.5 was horrid. Wp8 will probably be the same..
On a tablet.. hmm maybe worth looking at. On a desktop... i had the beta... piss poor..
I now have the new beta on the xbox.. looks alot like windows 8.. but... i like the new dash for one reason..
Microsoft finaly got their fingers out thier jacksys and intergrated internet explorer..
Personally.. i hate anything to do with windows excpet the fact that when they break.. i get work..
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1.
http://arstechnica.com/information-...othing-or-the-end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it/
completly locked down so it's kinda a hard
2.
we got the wight but not the hight or visa verca
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/archive/2012/03/21/scaling-to-different-screens.aspx
It's like saying i got triers so they will fit a car , bike or boat.... reverse engineering is a bigger job than u think just watch the Idroid project , so just because HD2 could run windows phone 6.5 doesnt mean that my S1 will run WP7
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You are talking about Windows 8 (RT), and that might be really hard to get on the S3. However, Windows Phone 8 does accept our resolution (see the ATIV S for example).
What people seem to be missing is that we have the Android sources. This means that it's "easy" to change the source code and make it run on different systems. Windows Phone (and Windows) is closed source. It's a "black box". You can't see what's inside, so it's very hard to mod it to make it run where it isn't intended to. This is the reason why no device has been hacked to run WP7, even when its hardware would allow it to (such as the Nokia N9).
It will be easier to run Android on the ATIV S than WP8 on the SGS3. Not saying it's impossible, just that it's very, very hard. Much harder than Android on the HD2.
WTF? if you want to side load apps you have to download SDK 8.0 which isn't a problem, the problem is that you have to have Windows 8 64-bit version... WTF? what if I don't want to upgrade to that crappy OS? There are so many developers and WP8 fans that would rather not user Windows 8. Way to go MS...someone over at MS needs to get fired.
Why not upgrade to W8? You can always dual boot W7 at no charge, so you will have the best of both worlds. Yeah?
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Upgrade to W8 is 30€ at the moment and running W8 on desktop mode is basically the same os as 7, only faster on boot etc... Why wouldnt you upgrade?
I was able to get the upgrade for 15€, but I think MS made it more difficult to get the discount now.
people just hate w8 because they are either not able to understand how the metro start menue replacement works or they just heard its crap.
Guys, guys... don't get me wrong; I do undestand Windows 8, I used it for quite a good while as my primary os on my desktop and my laptop but since neither is a touch device, the experience basically sucks. I will however consider the dual boot thing or virtual machine but still MS should not leave out those that continue to use Windows 7.
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Guys, guys... don't get me wrong; I do undestand Windows 8, I used it for quite a good while as my primary os on my desktop and my laptop but since neither is a touch device, the experience basically sucks. I will however consider the dual boot thing or virtual machine but still MS should not leave out those that continue to use Windows 7.
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why cant you use it with mouse and keyboard? are the icons to big? using it for 8 month now and somehow cant complain but it might be just me and maybe because i have dualscreen and dont use metro apps that much
sinister1 said:
Guys, guys... don't get me wrong; I do undestand Windows 8, I used it for quite a good while as my primary os on my desktop and my laptop but since neither is a touch device, the experience basically sucks. I will however consider the dual boot thing or virtual machine but still MS should not leave out those that continue to use Windows 7.
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There is no need for touch in Windows 8. Just use your keyboard and mouse.
I find the new interface so much better for mouse than it was before.
mcosmin222 said:
There is no need for touch in Windows 8. Just use your keyboard and mouse.
I find the new interface so much better for mouse than it was before.
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i dont care about the layout.. the applications i am using are all the same since xp so i just be happy about the better performance and new features
The fact is tha Win 8 was developed for tablet devices and lather they realized they could force it into a desktop enviroment.
No big deal here.
The real problem is the new Start Menu. If M$ was to remove that from Win8 for dektop and make a distinction between the 2 os's (Win8 RT vs Win8 for Desktop) there would be a faster adoption and ppl would have been satisfied (Especcially Enterprises).
But looking at Microsoft, the situation is so grim...they're 3 years late on mobile, search and social, and so they attempted to this resolution: one OS for all ecosystem. Nice move? Who knows...
I personally use Win8 for wp8 development and the new polished windows and speed of the OS is magic...
BUT ( it's a big but )
Metro is still there. ****. I don't fking need Apps, those are for f'king tablet/toys.
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And that's only a part of the problem. Why push WIN 8 PRO + 64 BIT + SLAT (i3/i5/i7) for WinPhone Development??? After waiting for months, devs would have been pissed, and they are indeed. So...Here we are..
Well I pulled out one of my old crappy computers and I am loading that crappy OS on it now, lets see how it turns out. :silly:
There's a technical reason why the WP8.0 SDK requires Windows 8. The new Emulator is using Hyper-V as a basis which is not available in Windows 7. The old Emulator still used code from VirtualPC which has been discontinued for several years. Implementing a completely new Emulator and drivers might not have been viable based on discontinued technology. Using Hyper-V they already had all the needed driver support in the new NT Kernel used by WP8.
So while I agree that it would have been preferable to be able to develop on Windows Vista / Windows 7 (XP was never supported for WP SDK) there are good reasons for requiring Windows 8. The SDK itself is great, perhaps that could have been made clearer in the thread title but the need for W8 is problematic to say the least.
StevieBallz said:
There's a technical reason why the WP8.0 SDK requires Windows 8. The new Emulator is using Hyper-V as a basis which is not available in Windows 7. The old Emulator still used code from VirtualPC which has been discontinued for several years. Implementing a completely new Emulator and drivers might not have been viable based on discontinued technology. Using Hyper-V they already had all the needed driver support in the new NT Kernel used by WP8.
So while I agree that it would have been preferable to be able to develop on Windows Vista / Windows 7 (XP was never supported for WP SDK) there are good reasons for requiring Windows 8. The SDK itself is great, perhaps that could have been made clearer in the thread title but the need for W8 is problematic to say the least.
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Exactly, the Hyper V is a much better way to do an emulator than the previous one. I installed the wp8 SDK on my office laptop so that I can get hyper V manager installed. I still have a VHD of my old windows 7 OS, which I plan to run in hyper v
I am looking forward to wp8 programming with the new async methodology, should life easier with those in place.
I loaded Win8 on one of my old computers but it didn't go as planed and there is no way I'm buying Win8 for $40 (It's not worth $1). Oh well.
well then you are just not going to develop in sdk 8.
but put the win8 flame somewhere else.
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well then you are just not going to develop in sdk 8.
but put the win8 flame somewhere else.
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Do you think Microsoft is going to top the big 2 market with this kind of attitude?
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Windows 8 is a better optimized Windows 7 with a touch UI added to it for touchscreens, which you don't have to use if you don't have one. That's all there is to it. I think its better than 7 in every way...
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Do you think Microsoft is going to top the big 2 market with this kind of attitude?
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To be honest.. yes think this. its not like apple would be much of a difference.
but hey .. people who think they cant use windows 8 because they dont have a touchscreen simply are old and dont want to adapt to new GUIs.
Wonder what they are doing with there windows phones
I dont get the fact that people complain about not needing apps on desktop computer, and that metro is for tablets... Yes, I dont need that either, but I dont use the metro side to nothing else except launching programs. Its only a start menu for me. I have XE.com and weather apps there, but I barely look at them ever. If someone uses XP I get it, but (Vista)Win7->Win8 any day for me. 8 is so much faster and the only difference is the "start menu".
StevieBallz said:
There's a technical reason why the WP8.0 SDK requires Windows 8. The new Emulator is using Hyper-V as a basis which is not available in Windows 7. The old Emulator still used code from VirtualPC which has been discontinued for several years. Implementing a completely new Emulator and drivers might not have been viable based on discontinued technology. Using Hyper-V they already had all the needed driver support in the new NT Kernel used by WP8.
So while I agree that it would have been preferable to be able to develop on Windows Vista / Windows 7 (XP was never supported for WP SDK) there are good reasons for requiring Windows 8. The SDK itself is great, perhaps that could have been made clearer in the thread title but the need for W8 is problematic to say the least.
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Huh, I figured it was just forcing people to upgrade to prevent vista 2.0.
Guys it's just my personal opinion, if you like Win8 that's a good thing. Maybe if I dish out the $$ for a touch screen tablet or computer I would be more comfortable with it but for a desktop (as far as form me) is a no go. Honestly I've tried to adapt to using in it with a mouse and keyboard but it just feels unnatural. I even installed classic shell on it but I still didn't like it, maybe you guys are right, maybe it's just me but like most of the companies I do contract work for; I'm not in a hurry to switch from Windows 7 and would rather wait for the next installment of the OS.