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Root or wait for Android 2.2?

Hey guys, I'm new to the Android community and I'm completely in love with it now that I had the phone for several weeks. Like every other phone I get, I'm always eager to customize it in all the ways possible.
So here is my question, rooting seems simple enough with the great guides you guys have here. However, I've heard that Android 2.2 is right around the corner with new great features. I read that if you upgrade your firmware, it will un-root your phone back to stock.
I'm already hungry to try the new features that a rooted phone can do but I'm thinking that this update is worth waiting for since this phone is new anyways.
Any opinions?

Steps for success:
1. Root phone.
2. Wait for 2.2.
3. Download a 2.2 rom with root.

Were would I find the rooted roms?

DynamicXL said:
Were would I find the rooted roms?
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In the development section.

Its a file you can find . Its not a rom. Your phone will still get the ota even after you root it. Can't say the same for custom roms
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Cool, thanks for the quick responds guys.
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Absolutely ROOT. I have some things to do once rooted in the sticky, please let me know if you have suggestions.

Rooting have nothing to do with ota update but flashing a customer rom will.
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I'm thinking of rooting. My battery life is a joke. The only thing I miss about Nexus One besides trackball notifications.

nick_karstedt said:
Steps for success:
1. Root phone.
2. Wait for 2.2.
3. Download a 2.2 rom with root.
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i second this

Yeah, I think I'm going to root my phone soon. Thanks for the help!

Fuse8499 said:
I'm thinking of rooting. My battery life is a joke. The only thing I miss about Nexus One besides trackball notifications.
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Not sure how rooting your phone is going to solve your battery issues? All that rooting does is give you root (superuser) permissions on your phone. You can do this to remove the bloatware that came preinstalled on the phone, run various apps that require root. But I can't think of any way that it's going to allow you to save battery life that you couldn't already do non-rooted.
My only reason to root was for wifi-tethering...

I know the newer version of Facebook is a battery eater. I switched back to the older style and my phone is happy again.
Root is great.
1. Remove bloat apps
2. Remove the annoying T-mobile jingle
3. Root Explorer is fun to play with
I think thats all I've really done so far. Well I should that I've wanted to really do so far.

Rooting isn't working for me otherwise I would have to agree :-(

^ could you give a little more detail, so we can help?
Do you have the update file named update.zip.zip by accident?

I pretty much had the same question. But after a little reading just now I actually understand what rooting is. Helps that I'm familiar with linux! Attempting to root in 5 4 3...
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So if you don't have a data plan you can't get the ota update? You must root? Mine is on AT&T with no data plan right now.

Isn't there much more to rooting then apps and root control? I've seen all the custome ROMs people get to customize the phone and theme just about everything.
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s15274n said:
^ could you give a little more detail, so we can help?
Do you have the update file named update.zip.zip by accident?
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No I just Have a file named update.zip. I have tried two different methods twice now and once I'm in recovery and go to flash the zip it says it isn't there. I don't know what it is I'm doing wrong.
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So I rooted my phone earlier today. It was unbelievably easy to get the whole set up going.
Haven't had much time to fool around with it yet except for several apps that require root access, mainly to flash and back up my data in case of an oops.
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Droid X root to stock

Just got my DX from having a Eris. I love the phone. Of course, I had to root it Now, if for some reason I need to take my DX back to Verizon, can I do the factory reset, or do I have to do it the SBF way? If it makes a difference, yes, it came with the 2.2. Also, I am not currently running custom roms yet, still need to read up on deodexing. I used DroidxRoot to root the phone. The reason why I asked is because within the program, it has a unroot feature, which I tried, and failed.
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The factory reset will not remove root, the SBF on the other hand will remove root

You can try downloading "Z4Root" from the market. It is an app that roots and unroots your phone. It will detect that your phone is rooted already and will give you the option to re-root. You can then try hitting the "un-root" button and see of that does it for you.
I used Z4Root in my DX. Of course every phone is different and I take no responsibility if Z4root melts your phone down.
Oh- and most roms (if any) do not require that you are de-odexed first. Themes require it, but most roms do not. Installing the rom de-odexes your phone for you. I will put in a good word for Apex1.2 (for the non-leak) and Rubix (haven't tried 1.9 yet). Rubix is "blureless" Apex retains the "good blur" so that your phone actually works.

I do believe that z4root has been taken off the market, but luckily, it's available here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=833953
While having the option to unroot is nice, I have a feeling as you flash more ROMs and themes, you'll begin to start forgetting about the feature

4n0m4ly said:
Just got my DX from having a Eris. I love the phone. Of course, I had to root it Now, if for some reason I need to take my DX back to Verizon, can I do the factory reset, or do I have to do it the SBF way? If it makes a difference, yes, it came with the 2.2. Also, I am not currently running custom roms yet, still need to read up on deodexing. I used DroidxRoot to root the phone. The reason why I asked is because within the program, it has a unroot feature, which I tried, and failed.
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I think SBF is the only route. However, I'm pretty sure that the VZW people won't even know it's rooted. Just a guess. Well, the techs might. But, I highly doubt they will care. These phones are considered 'disposable technology'. i.e. it'll just get refurbed and sent to somone else.

4n0m4ly said:
Just got my DX from having a Eris. I love the phone. Of course, I had to root it Now, if for some reason I need to take my DX back to Verizon, can I do the factory reset, or do I have to do it the SBF way? If it makes a difference, yes, it came with the 2.2. Also, I am not currently running custom roms yet, still need to read up on deodexing. I used DroidxRoot to root the phone. The reason why I asked is because within the program, it has a unroot feature, which I tried, and failed.
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I went the SBF method myself when I needed to do an exchange 3 weeks after getting my DX. Unfortunately we cannot post a link to the SBF as we received a C&D request from Motorola.

Bloatware

Sorry if this has been discussed. I used unrevoked to get super user access to my incredible and now want to delete that stupid slacker radio, vcast, and VZW navigator crap. Do I have to install a rom? I like sense and don't like messing too much with the phone. I have been running stock software on it for almost a year and only just now rooted using unervoked to install a screenshot app. I hate those bloatware apps with a passion but have put up with them ... now that I have root access I can't uninstall using the normal means. Is there a workaround to get rid of them without installing a rom?

Chris1051 said:
Sorry if this has been discussed. I used unrevoked to get super user access to my incredible and now want to delete that stupid slacker radio, vcast, and VZW navigator crap. Do I have to install a rom? I like sense and don't like messing too much with the phone. I have been running stock software on it for almost a year and only just now rooted using unervoked to install a screenshot app. I hate those bloatware apps with a passion but have put up with them ... now that I have root access I can't uninstall using the normal means. Is there a workaround to get rid of them without installing a rom?
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You can install custom ROMs that basically mirror the stock ROM but it has bloatware removed. Just look carefully.

The sticky at the top of the forum links to a lot of FAQ's like this one
In particular:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Incredible/Guides&Tutorials#Removing_Bloat
Even easier, you can use Titanium Backup to do it. Or Root Explorer. Or pretty much any app that can write to the system partition with SU access.

Oh and sorry I am using tapatalk and couldn't find the search feature to reply in thread about bloatware. Accept my apology.

Or, if you don't mind wiping. You can install Nothing Special.
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=976933
It's a stock rom with bloat already removed.

BrettApple said:
Or, if you don't mind wiping. You can install Nothing Special.
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=976933
It's a stock rom with bloat already removed.
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This is the easiest way IMHO.
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Ok. So if I flash will I get VZW OTA if they push it out of 2.3? ... since I rooted using unrevoked, but if I don't flash will I get the OTA to 2.3?
Guess I'm just worried ill brick it. This thing is my pride and joy and if I broke it I would cry.

Chris1051 said:
Ok. So if I flash will I get VZW OTA if they push it out of 2.3? ... since I rooted using unrevoked, but if I don't flash will I get the OTA to 2.3?
Guess I'm just worried ill brick it. This thing is my pride and joy and if I broke it I would cry.
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It's almost impossible to brick, it's become so easy to flash roms, root, etc.

Just factory reset if you want to go back. Kinda the point of flashing is to get the latest greatest before it is released. Oh, all all those goodies I am sure they will omit.
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Chris1051 said:
Ok. So if I flash will I get VZW OTA if they push it out of 2.3? ... since I rooted using unrevoked, but if I don't flash will I get the OTA to 2.3?
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The devs here are beating the piss out of VZW OTA's. Just flash a custom 2.3 ROM.
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Question re T-Mobile

Hi...
I was lucky enough to get my glacier exchanged for a new one due to problems I am having with wifi.
My question is... So that I minimize any problems with this exchange, to what extent should I return the phone in its original condition (not hardware, but rather software firmware). I was planning in reimaging it with the original htc sense which was on it when I bought it (using CM7 now), but would there be anything else?
Do you think it would be that important to "un-root" it?
Also, given that this is a new replacement mt4g, am I going to have any problems getting root again? I seem to remember that they modified the bootloader so as to make rooting this phone a much bigger pain in the ass.
My current mt4g is rooted fully with radio at 000000 (our whatever...I cannot remember offhand what it is called but it was fully rooted).
Thanks!
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Put it back to stock everything.
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I've gotten away with just flashing back to the stock rooted 2.2 mySense ROM. Done it like 5 times with no problems. Good luck.

If it was me I would unroot it just to avoid unwanted attention, but I guess you could use mySense so it looks normal.

In all likelihood, they won't check the phone or penalize you for modifying it, but it's probably safer to just unroot it completely. On the off chance that they refuse the exchange because you've "voided the warranty" or whatnot, it's just better to fully return it to factory settings.

Thanks to all who replied. I think I am going to reimage the phone with the latest update from t-mobile (found in this forum) as I read here that it will unroot your phone.
I just got the phone and am now dreading the transfer. First thing I need to do is root it. However, it has been 9 months since I did this on my original phone and I know their have been changes to both the phone and improvements to rooting it.
I tried searching, but I don't know which method is best. Is there anyway I can tell from looking at the replacement phone if there is a change in the bootloader or firmware version-- or any info at all which might help me determine the easiest way to root this new mt4g
Or, in the alternative, just a suggestion to use a specific method and not worry about it? I have adb installed so if necessary, I can use that.
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Help a noob out!

I just ordered this phone and have some last minute questions.
Should the first thing I do when I get the device be to root it?
Will I loose something if I decide to use it straight out of the box and then later decide to root?
I kinda get the impression that you have to do a factory reset after rooting, am I correct assuming that? If so I might as well begin with rooting.
And lastly, if I root will I be able to receive updates from LG and installing without it messing up the phone?
Sorry for all the questions, even though I've been using Android for several years I really haven't rooted before, so just want to be safe
Anyways, thanks to anyone who wants to teach me and put my worries to rest
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If you root you'll lose the opportunity to get OTAs but you can just install them as a stock ROM that's been updated to it.

Thanks for the quick reply! Think I'll have to research a bit more before I make a decision
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