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Z4 root possible?

Has anyone tried to root using the z4 root app? Will it work?
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Yea, I used a method listed here @ XDA to get S-Off and rooted when I had the Nov. Update before unrevoke's revisions. It used zroot to enable the process.
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My friend (idiot couldnt wait for me to do it correctly) rooted his Droid X using Z4. Shortly after he discovered his Droid X wouldn't boot. Soft bricked Droid. Said friend orders another Droid X (warrenty) and still couldn't wait (till AFTER SCHOOL A MATTER OF HOURS!) to root and Z4'ed again. Another soft brick. He's on his 3rd Droid X, unrooted. I've refused to do so for him.

z4root by itself will not permanently root an incredible, it will give you temporary root till the next time you reboot. this information is available in the z4root thread. you might want to try posting this in the droid x forum if you want to know about z4root and a droid x .

Its the Inc that I'm concerned with, my wife's phone to be exact. I have the fascinate & I've rooted, de-binged & de- bloated and want to root her phone for wifi tethering. I used a 1-click root app on my Eris that worked well & was just wondering if something similar would work on this one.
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garywojdan81 said:
Its the Inc that I'm concerned with, my wife's phone to be exact. I have the fascinate & I've rooted, de-binged & de- bloated and want to root her phone for wifi tethering. I used a 1-click root app on my Eris that worked well & was just wondering if something similar would work on this one.
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The best way to get root on the Inc is to use Unrevoked 3.22. There is no one-click method like the Eris to gain permanent root. You will need to get adb (android-sdk) setup on your pc as well as get the correct usb drivers setup for this to work. The instructions are on Unrevoked's website.
While z4root is technically a one-click method it will only give you a temporary root that is lost every time the phone reboots and you have to re-root it. It can be useful if all you want to do is remove some of the crapware and thats it. I did use it to do just that with Titanium Backup Pro but had to re-root my phone about 16 times, re-install busy box each time and it became rather tedious and took a couple hours. Also I wouldn't recommend using it if your going to install a custom ROM or want to do other modding to the phone.
Edit: z4root does not put a custom recovery on the phone and you wouldn't be able to use it anyways if you did as root would be lost as soon as you tried to reboot into recovery. So you couldn't even install a custom ROM with it if you wanted to.

Revoked works. Instructions here. http://jonsuh.com/2010/11/root-your-droid-incredible-how-to/ if using windows, have fun downloading ext2 drivers, if using Linux/MAC, its very easy

kzoodroid said:
z4root by itself will not permanently root an incredible, it will give you temporary root till the next time you reboot. this information is available in the z4root thread. you might want to try posting this in the droid x forum if you want to know about z4root and a droid x .
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Didn't even give temp root on my slcd.

Timcredible said:
Didn't even give temp root on my slcd.
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I have an SCLD and it worked for me. But I do believe it actually failed the first time I tried it but after a reboot it worked. I think on the z4root thread it mentions rebooting first before using it.

Okay thanks for the info. My wife's is a slcd I believe so I think I'm going to try it.
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[Q] Should I root and install a custom ROM or wait for 2.2?

I'm tempted to root my phone, and install a ROM, BUT is it really worth it? Should I have more patience and wait for 2.2 ROMS? Im worried if I root it now, then 2.2 comes out Ill have to restore it back to stock. I also heard if you have a rooted phone and a major update (like froyo) comes out your pretty much bricked. Advice needed?

malvoc said:
I'm tempted to root my phone, and install a ROM, BUT is it really worth it? Should I have more patience and wait for 2.2 ROMS? Im worried if I root it now, then 2.2 comes out Ill have to restore it back to stock. I also heard if you have a rooted phone and a major update (like froyo) comes out your pretty much bricked. Advice needed?
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Wrong section.

Root it. You can always unroot your phone and go back to stock. Ive done it plenty of time. Read through the forums....there are plenty of instructions on how to
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Agreed on rooting. The stock phone software is really crappy. I'm not sure how you live with it?

RacerXFD said:
Agreed on rooting. The stock phone software is really crappy. I'm not sure how you live with it?
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You can always flash back to stock if you don't like what you did to it. I end up flashing to stock, then flashing to a rom every other week or so to clean any messes with my phone. You'll learn how to do it right and how to fix. But start by reading the stickies, and asking the guys on irc if you have questions.

I'ld be more concerned that if you get the OTA before you root, that the update will close the exploit and make it impossible to root afterwards. If you root now, you may have to wait a day or two longer for Froyo. But if you plan to root after (or if you unroot for an OTA), you may have to wait a lot longer for a new root method.

Root and ROM. no question about it. We haven't even heard a release date or even a time frame for when the Fascinate will get it. I know everyone bashes me for this but the bottom line is no one has ever came out and said that the fascinate will get it on this date. Maybe the galaxy S is. But not the VERIZON FASCINATE
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[Q] NEED HELP. DROID X Bootstrapper. Sending a phone back to VERIZON. Desperate

First i'm going to say sorry as i know this isn't the first and probably won't be the last thread posted about removing droid X bootstrapper. With that said thank you in advance for helping me.
Before i go on i'll preface by saying i am no expert but with proper instruction i can learn very easily. I rooted my DX using z4root and used droid x bootstrapper to create a nandroid and flashed the Fission Rom. I am new to the DX, came from the DINC, and the only reason i rooted was because my phone was rebooting randomly and i thought maybe that would fix it but it didn't so i was able to get a refurb DX which is working better already and so now i have to send my old back to Verizon. Problem is i unrooted it and restored to defaults and Bootstrapper, Terminal Emulator, and SU were all still there. so i researched the boards since this community has made me excited to be an android user, and tried both methods of Root explorer and Terminal emulator, and even flashed maderstcock340.zip but again upon restoring to defaults, all 3 apps showed up again.
I need help, i didn't want to ask for help because i dont want to bother anyone but i need the help. Even a link to something else that i should try would be a great help.
I mean even if anyone is willing to skype with me and help me out that way i'll buy you a 6 pack.
EDIT: Will using the .340 system only sbf work to remove it? and if not will using TBH's 2.3.32 fix it??!?!

Have you tried unrooting with z4, you can uninstall the other two in the market. If z4 fails to unroot, you might have to flash a sbf. Its easy find " how to's" in the forums.
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thecontrolm7cl said:
First i'm going to say sorry as i know this isn't the first and probably won't be the last thread posted about removing droid X bootstrapper. With that said thank you in advance for helping me.
Before i go on i'll preface by saying i am no expert but with proper instruction i can learn very easily. I rooted my DX using z4root and used droid x bootstrapper to create a nandroid and flashed the Fission Rom. I am new to the DX, came from the DINC, and the only reason i rooted was because my phone was rebooting randomly and i thought maybe that would fix it but it didn't so i was able to get a refurb DX which is working better already and so now i have to send my old back to Verizon. Problem is i unrooted it and restored to defaults and Bootstrapper, Terminal Emulator, and SU were all still there. so i researched the boards since this community has made me excited to be an android user, and tried both methods of Root explorer and Terminal emulator, and even flashed maderstcock340.zip but again upon restoring to defaults, all 3 apps showed up again.
I need help, i didn't want to ask for help because i dont want to bother anyone but i need the help. Even a link to something else that i should try would be a great help.
I mean even if anyone is willing to skype with me and help me out that way i'll buy you a 6 pack.
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Have you tried sbf'ing?
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bigshotrob22 said:
Have you tried sbf'ing?
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Well i thought that is what maderstcoks340.zip was supposed to be. A flashable sbf? can you direct me to a link where i can download the .340 SBF and the right version of RSD Lite

I'm currently at work and on my phone...so you'll have to find the links yourself...
But flashing the .340 won't get you completely back to stock. You'll need to find a link to the .320 sbf...I think there is one on droid-life.com
Apply the 320 and then the 340.
340 sbfs are easy to find...but you'll obviously need that too.

Jubakuba said:
I'm currently at work and on my phone...so you'll have to find the links yourself...
But flashing the .340 won't get you completely back to stock. You'll need to find a link to the .320 sbf...I think there is one on droid-life.com
Apply the 320 and then the 340.
340 sbfs are easy to find...but you'll obviously need that too.
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got it all taken care of! Really pretty fearless now that i sat down and learned to SBF the problem is i run mac so i'll need to use a friends PC if i ever need to SBF again. Anyway thanks for the help!

Go go www.drewgaren.com and click on the sbf and root tab..i used his instructions to sbf...
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Anyone manual root .596 yet?

I would like to use this post to document any way to manual root .596 gingerbread. I know p3droid is doing awesome work building prerooted updates but having a manual route is always nice.
Thank you everyone.
Edit...mistyped version number.
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Its .596 ................

I did. Since I was on the .595 and I had the older radio, I had to SBF back to 2.3.340 first and because of that I had to lose my recent data (last froyo nandroid was two months ago). Anyways it seems to be nearly identical to the .595 once it is up and running. My two cents

I have an X that's running stock Gingerbread, and I'd like to root it. So a manual root method that doesn't require SBFing back to Froyo would be very welcome...

Why does everyone act like SBF'ing is so hard? It takes ten to fifteen minutes and has the same amount if not less risk than flashing a rom

It's not that it is hard, but at least I would hate to loose all my data & time spent setting up the phone.
But if this is the only method of getting root I will be sbf'ing soon. But I wonder what this means for the Droid X2 which I assume is already on GB 596 out of the box. So can the X2 not ever be rooted since there is no 340 to go back too???

I am also curious about manual rooting. I don't have a problem SBF'ing and have done it many times. I would like to learn more about Android and its internals.
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cspell said:
It's not that it is hard, but at least I would hate to loose all my data & time spent setting up the phone.
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I used Titanium Backup to backup all apps and user data, then restore after the upgrade to GB. Don't have to spend a ton of time setting up the phone.

It's the configuring the phone, not the SBF that's the issue
I concur -- SBF is simply, straight forward and quick. The problem is the amount of time it takes to get the phone set up again, especially moving from one flavor of Android to another. I've got 15 minutes to SBF. I don't have the hour or two to fiddle with the apps, configurations, etc.
So I second the call for a method to root stock Gingerbread. I miss my ad blocker...

I have read that gingerbreak works intermittently on some but not all .596 droid x's.
Current method to root works fine thanks to P3droid method 2. If you already have a prerooted 2.2 running the latest OTA you just need two files to install and you will have a .596 rooted droid x. If you jumped the gun and installed the OTA... then yes you need to find a way to root your .596...
Setting up SBF for the first time is not difficult just a little scary. Luckily there are alot of guides out there to help and the bootloader didn't change. Good luck!

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But if this is the only method of getting root I will be sbf'ing soon. But I wonder what this means for the Droid X2 which I assume is already on GB 596 out of the box. So can the X2 not ever be rooted since there is no 340 to go back too???
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its kinda weird but the droid x2 shipps with 2.2.2, just the newer form of blur like the gingerbread droid x has. Also, it has been able to be rooted by gingerbreak so i guess there's some hope.

[Q] Is the Droid X rootable

I am thinking about getting a Droid X this afternoon. With the OTA update is it rootable and if so with what? Thank!

floridatank said:
I am thinking about getting a Droid X this afternoon. With the OTA update is it rootable and if so with what? Thank!
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Not the OTA. You will need to sbf back to froyo and then upgrade to the pre rooted GB
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bigshotrob22 said:
Not the OTA. You will need to sbf back to froyo and then upgrade to the pre rooted GB
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I went ahead and got it. It has 2.3.3 on it, Will Gingerbreak work on that? Thanks!

floridatank said:
I went ahead and got it. It has 2.3.3 on it, Will Gingerbreak work on that? Thanks!
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Nope! Like I said its unrootable
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Unrootable...
But that doesn't mean you can't root.
SBF to froyo.
Flash the 2-part gingerbread .zips.
Flash a custom rom (Liberty?)
Or stay on the froyo kernel...
and try MIUI or Cyanogen.

Be careful and read as much as you possibly can before starting. Myself and at least one other on here with the latest iteration of the X have ended up with boot looping or totally non-responsive devices.
I have started a thread with my findings. I am by no means an expert but I do have much experience with rooting devices going all the way back to the PPC6700.
Good luck.

getting stuck in a bootloop is part of the exploration process IMHO.
At least once per new ROM I'll flash something 'just to see what happens' and end up SBF'ing back. Just make backups between steps if you aren't sure about what will happen next.

it would be nice if one of the devs or people who work on rooting or someone in the know would at least comment if we are going to get a real root with the OTA
i mean im running froyo with CM7 but i sure would like the new firmwares for all the radios flashed and then be running CM7
so if someone could give us some kind of update at least saying no one is even remotely working on trying to gain root on 4.5.596 Official OTA or that yea we are working on it but it is a ***** and taken longer then we expected
that lil bit of info goes a long ways
thanks

I am not aware of any dev working on this ATM.

I don't think rooting 596 ota is critical 2nd unit has opened up alot of new doors and the attention has shifted. However I have flashed all of drew gardens latest and ran cm4dx until nightly 47. Now I'm daily MIUI and loving it, despite locked bootloader the cdma_shadow still has alot of options.
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to my understanding .596 has better battery life and signals are better for wifi and cellular (at least more stable and less drops)
i do not know if this is true but i have read/heard alot of ppl saying the battery life is better on .596
after all there is a .596 for some reason and its not a lil bump from 2.2.340 its pretty big
anyhow someone really needs to figure this out as the baseband has changed....i mean there is the pre-rooted rom .596 that works great so we know it can be done.
whats the big deal...let us have it

m16-maniac said:
anyhow someone really needs to figure this out as the baseband has changed....i mean there is the pre-rooted rom .596 that works great so we know it can be done.
whats the big deal...let us have it
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the big deal is that there isn't a readily found exploit for the ota, the pre-rooted was done with a diff. method (brute force? recompiled?) but the versions are the same regardless
no ones holding back a secret root method, there just isn't a dev interested in spending huge amounts of time to recreate what already exists
i think it would be interesting to create a batch script that sbf's a phone and installs the pre-rooted .596 but all hidden behind a random animation so the user doesn't see what's happening. if i call it a 'one click' root method lots of people who don't seem to want to take the readily available pre-rooted gb for whatever reason would likely be happy. yeah i understand that if it includes a sbf then data may get lost, but if i said in the instructions of my 'app' that it would happen and they should have backups, people would still likely use it
sorry, but i just don't understand why so many people who want root are seemingly against using the pre-rooted option, as most of them don't have the knowledge to find an exploit or a root method from scratch themselves, so they are still using the work of someone else...

<Disclaimer>I'm going out on a limb here with limited knowledge of the X. <End disclaimer>
From what I read and I don't remember where, the rooting of an X involves a 2nd init method by which it takes control of the initial init. I believe I read the original init isn't able to be exploited and this is the basis of some of the more complicated methods of rooting the X.
If someone knows more about this please correct me or chime in.
I had an Incredible prior. The rooting was more comprehensive and simple. I believe that is because the bootstrap and recovery were not as difficult to get into. That being said, personally, I may be going back to another HTC device if the folks light years smarter than me aren't interested in developing a root method like the other devices out there.