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Ok I am a new member to this whole PocketPC thing since I just purchased my first PocketPC which is an i-mate JASJAM. I honestly think that it's a great product with a lot of features and potential. My problem though, lies in the fact that I haven't had the chance to enjoy it for a full day yet. Ever since I bought it, I always charge it for like 7 to 8 hours, even though it fills up after like 3, but i leave it on charge anyway, because I was told that "that's what you should do!".
Anyways, no matter how long I leave it on the charger, once i take it off the battery begins to drain like there's no tomorrow. I'm talking about going from 100% to 0% within 5 hours, while on FLIGHT MODE. If I turn the screen off then it might last for an extra hour.
Surely this can't be something normal, and I have been beating my brain trying to find a solution. As far as ActiveSync goes, I did the tweak that stops its automatic scheduled syncs, hoping that it would be the problem, but to my disappointment, no luck. Also made sure that no programs were running in the background. It came with a battery with a capacity of 1300mAh and then I bought another one hoping it was a problem with the battery. The new one had a capacity of 1350mAh, not much of a difference but it was all I could find. But there's no difference between them whatsoever, when it comes to battery life.
My first question is whether it is possible that this may be a software issue rather than a hardware issue (such as a power leak)?
If it is, then would upgrading the ROM or Radio or upgrading to WM6 make any difference?
Problem's that I don't have the phone on me right now so I can't give ROM or ExtROM versions etc., but I do know that it is running WM5 with AKU 2.3 and Radio is either 1.21 or 1.31.
N.B.: Until I get this issue sorted out, I am using a Nokia 6680 which has an average battery life of 3 days (72 hours), so should I be expecting something in the vicinity with my i-mate?
Well it sounds as if you've done all the obvious things. There is a power saving registry tweak in the wiki somewhere but that should not be necessary just to bring it to normal power consumption. If I don't use mine much (not on flight mode) I'll get a couple of days at least.
A ROM change might help a little but if you have a warranty I'd be tempted to use it. Radio change is unlikely to change things if you have been testing in flight mode.
Anybody else got ideas?
Mike
The only problem that I have with getting it fixed or replaced under warranty is that I have to send it to another country. So I am trying everything I can do before going through that hassle. So is there any test that I can carry out at home, or a certain diagnostics software that can test the phone for me?
Would a digital multimeter help if i can measure the current being drawn from the battery? What should the current rating be for the phone, is it 1A? Because there is one other interesting thing i found while just snooping around, there is a sticker that just has 5VDC and 1A written on it, and it's stuck to the phone under where the battery goes. I can only imagine that this is the voltage and current rating for the phone. The interesting part is that the battery that came with it, as well as the one i bought are both 3.7V batteries.
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Best to just update your phone.... But becareful! read and research on flashing b 4 you do it... VERY IMPORTANT... USE only softwares for your phone...
I wanna make sure that anything i do doesn't void my warranty as well.
Used their offical update for your phone... However, my friend brick his phone and sent it back to the company and they replace it for him... I dunno if you would have that luck however... if ur careful and read all the information... and ur computer is stable... you shouldnt worry about it bricking ur phone...
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The only problem that I have with getting it fixed or replaced under warranty is that I have to send it to another country. So I am trying everything I can do before going through that hassle. So is there any test that I can carry out at home, or a certain diagnostics software that can test the phone for me?
Would a digital multimeter help if i can measure the current being drawn from the battery? What should the current rating be for the phone, is it 1A? Because there is one other interesting thing i found while just snooping around, there is a sticker that just has 5VDC and 1A written on it, and it's stuck to the phone under where the battery goes. I can only imagine that this is the voltage and current rating for the phone. The interesting part is that the battery that came with it, as well as the one i bought are both 3.7V batteries.
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The ratings you see written inside and the battery ratings are just standard - nothing unusual there. You could test current draw etc but even if you find it a little high it doesn't really help you to pin down a problem save to say it's the phone and not the battery. However as you have two batteries it's fairly reasonable to say it's not the battery. (reasonable but not impossible of course that two batteries are not working as they should).
Unfortunately we do not yet have our hands on the test file that HTC use.
Mike
I guess I have no choice but to get it shipped back. Thanks for your help guys.
Are you using a wall charger or a trickle-charger such as the USB Cable? The wall charger is the only way to truly charge it to full.
If you are using a USB charger or other trickle charger, after the device says it is fully charged remove it from the charger for about 2 minutes and then reconnect it. It will then charge (most of) the rest of the way.
If you don't do this, the problems gets worse and worse. After 1 day, the trickle charger may get you up to a 90% charge. After two days, 80%, etc. After a week you'll only be holding half a charge, even though the device is reporting a full charge while on the charger.
Another tip I have found is to perform a soft-reset after removing it from the charger, particularly if it has been plugged in for a long time at full charge (more than an hour or so). It seems like the device doesn't always detect that it has been unplugged and tries to suck down juice as if it were still plugged in. If you have noticed that your device gets pretty hot when the battery drains quickly, this is probably what is happening to you.
You also haven't mentioned the programs that you are using during the day. Some programs, particularly chat clients, will drain the battery in about 5 hours, though obviously you're not using anything like this while in flight mode.
One more thing. You noted that you were told that leaving it on the charger whenever possible is the thing to do. This is incorrect. The more the battery is exercised in this way, the shorter the lifespan of the battery will be. With any PocketPC device we're all bound to charge it every night, but once it is charged you want to take it off the charger. A battery being fully charged is just as bad as a battery being fully drained, so you want to keep it somewhere in between as much as possible.
My battery doesn't last either.
I've ordered an extended life battery with its own back.
I've also ordered a car charger.
I also carry my old hiptop with me when I need to switch sims.
Apparently touchscreen phones that do so much, ie. bluetooth and wifi, eat batteries.
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Are you using a wall charger or a trickle-charger such as the USB Cable? The wall charger is the only way to truly charge it to full.
If you are using a USB charger or other trickle charger, after the device says it is fully charged remove it from the charger for about 2 minutes and then reconnect it. It will then charge (most of) the rest of the way.
If you don't do this, the problems gets worse and worse. After 1 day, the trickle charger may get you up to a 90% charge. After two days, 80%, etc. After a week you'll only be holding half a charge, even though the device is reporting a full charge while on the charger.
Another tip I have found is to perform a soft-reset after removing it from the charger, particularly if it has been plugged in for a long time at full charge (more than an hour or so). It seems like the device doesn't always detect that it has been unplugged and tries to suck down juice as if it were still plugged in. If you have noticed that your device gets pretty hot when the battery drains quickly, this is probably what is happening to you.
You also haven't mentioned the programs that you are using during the day. Some programs, particularly chat clients, will drain the battery in about 5 hours, though obviously you're not using anything like this while in flight mode.
One more thing. You noted that you were told that leaving it on the charger whenever possible is the thing to do. This is incorrect. The more the battery is exercised in this way, the shorter the lifespan of the battery will be. With any PocketPC device we're all bound to charge it every night, but once it is charged you want to take it off the charger. A battery being fully charged is just as bad as a battery being fully drained, so you want to keep it somewhere in between as much as possible.
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Wow, I am very surprised to hear some of these. First of all, are you sure that using the usb charger kills your battery capacity so fast? I mean, I almost always charge my phone with the usb charger and it seems to be quite fine. Of course once in a while I charge it with the wall charger when I am in a hurry. But I was thinking that charging it with the usb will be better as it charges slowly.
Also I usually keep my phone plugged to the usb. Indeed, I already ordered a desktop cradle so that I can see the screen while it is being charged. Is it a bad idea to keep it cradled all the time? This is what I did with my Dell Axim all the time and it was quite happy with it.
The process of charging/draining modern batteries won't shorten their lifespans. However, having a chargable battery at full charge or at no charge are both bad and both will reduce the lifespan of the battery.
So no, you shouldn't leave it plugged in/cradled all the time.
The problem with trickle chargers is altogether different. They just won't always charge a battery to its full capacity -- so in this way they are actually better for long-term battery health. This is why I said that if you want to get a full charge off of a trickle charger, you have to (usually) take it off the charger and put it back on when the device reports that it is fully charged. After unplugging the trickle-charger you'll get a new battery reading on the device which will usually be anywhere between 60% and 90%. You can then put it back on the charger until it shows full again.
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Well, it seems that i was just unlucky with my buy. Thanks to all of you first of all for all your support it really did help me learn more about PPC's in general, and it also made me sure that there is a problem with the phone. I sat through what i like to call a debugging session, just following the phone's every "move". I know, sounds kinda crazy but i was just that determined. What i realised was that whether i performed the soft-reset or not, it still had a problem, even though the solution did sound very promising.
This is what happened, charged it to 100%. I also tried charging it a little more later, but that was it, so i'm pretty sure that the capacity was right. After detaching it i performed the softreset, hoping that it would help. Then i just left it over night on flight mode. Next morning it had only decreased to 90%. GREAT! And it felt rather normal, but then about an hour later, it jumped down to 80%, 70%, 60%, then 50%. Then when I held it, it felt pretty hot, i figured that whatever was the problem earlier, just happened again. So I turned it off for a few hours then turned it on again and it started off on 40%. As before seemed to be performing quite normal, then within a minute it heated up again and jumped down to 20%. And that was when i just lost my nerve and packed it to send it back to my retailer.
I am now convinced that the phone is faulty!
Yes, it very well might be.
My device has drained suddenly a few times, with the exact same heat problems that you're describing when it happens. A soft reset for me when this occured fixed it -- and it hasn't happened for months.
But as we all know the same solutions don't work for all people with HTC devices.
I just had the same sort of problem. I've been using my TyTN for several months now under Dutty's WM6, and only just flashed Schaps 3.60 a few days ago.
It worked fine the first couple of days, but now I'm having the dreaded 5hr battery life too.
I had had that a couple of times before, but it was always related to some software, and a soft reset would cure it like Doom Tints said above. The problem is that here, either this or a power-off and reboot doesn't change a thing.
It's clearly a software problem too. I use UpTime Meter from AE, and I can see that the PocketPC simply doesn't turn into standby mode, but only deactivates the screen. In UpTime, the power on time will always be equal to the time since last charge, which means the PocketPC is on all the time. In that case the 5h battery life makes sense.
Would there be a way to find out why it doesn't enter standby mode (which software blocks it up), or force it into it? It would be good to find something as I'm nearly sure this is the reason for most if not all of the cases of short battery life we see around. Without having the meter there's simply no way to realise that the thing just stays on...
Doom Tints said:
The process of charging/draining modern batteries won't shorten their lifespans. However, having a chargable battery at full charge or at no charge are both bad and both will reduce the lifespan of the battery.
So no, you shouldn't leave it plugged in/cradled all the time.
The problem with trickle chargers is altogether different. They just won't always charge a battery to its full capacity -- so in this way they are actually better for long-term battery health. This is why I said that if you want to get a full charge off of a trickle charger, you have to (usually) take it off the charger and put it back on when the device reports that it is fully charged. After unplugging the trickle-charger you'll get a new battery reading on the device which will usually be anywhere between 60% and 90%. You can then put it back on the charger until it shows full again.
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Your good man, Phone has been charging for about four hours and it didnt go up more than 40% so I unpluged the phone and turned it off and on and then it went up to 80% and now its recharging it again. Thanks
Battery discharge and heating up
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I just had the same sort of problem. I've been using my TyTN for several months now under Dutty's WM6, and only just flashed Schaps 3.60 a few days ago.
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Would there be a way to find out why it doesn't enter standby mode (which software blocks it up), or force it into it? It would be good to find something as I'm nearly sure this is the reason for most if not all of the cases of short battery life we see around. Without having the meter there's simply no way to realise that the thing just stays on...
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Since I had my hermes, a few times it would get very hot and discharge the battery, and I assumed I was turning it on in my pocket and running a program. But now it does this continually. As soon as I take it off the charger it discharges and gets hot. This even happens if the phone is powered off.
I have borrowed a battery of someone else and the same thing happens
I have also hard reset it and have nothing installed extra, so it can not be software problem.
Must be a short circuit inside the phone? Does anyone have any ideas? I can't send it back as it is a Cingular and I live in the UK and have no support contract.
Thanks,
Mark
I managed to investigate and find the culprit - A2DP Toggle in my case. Whenever its Today plugin is enabled, it will prevent the phone from entering standby. Deactivate it - no uninstallation needed - and it returns to normal. Weird as it had been working perfectly for about a week, and I haven't done any change when it started acting weird.
Now it kinda defeats the plugin's purpose if I have to deactivate it everytime...
@simkin: If it drains the battery even powered off completely that's most likely a hardware problem. Does it happen too if you remove the battery and put it again without turning the phone on (as opposed to having the phone on and turning it off with a long press on the the power button)?
There could be a slight chance that the phone actually starts booting and gets stuck there draining power. As a last solution I'd try flashing it with a different ROM, but if that fails it's most likely a hardware fault.
I'm having battery trouble too, I switched to WM6 with a full battery that lasted for about 24 hours and it became 7-8 hours, so I switched back to my previous ROM and Radio ver and it still says I only get 7-8 hours average, I'm gonna try to hard reset it on more time, and then i'm just gonna try a new battery.
Hi guys asked it once before in battery section, but no replies.
My HD doesn't charge auto, when I press the on button the battery charges for 15 sec. tried a new battery same result. I know it Physicly charges, when I charge the phone by pressing the on button a couple of 100 times (really 100x) I get 1% charge. So don't say 'HTC phones only charge when on', cause I know.. Tried a Hard reset 2 times no luck. meanwhile my batt. is dead. So I can't try other firmware.(need 50% charge min)
(chargers are fine)
In short, anybody ever heard of this problem before with other htc models/HD ?
Physicly it charges, so would a firmware change help?(then I need to get a standalone charger/new battery with charge).
My last option is to bring it to HTC but that would take a month
Sorry for number of words on this lazy sunday.
Update - firmware update doesn't work.. next is radio....
no ideas anybody?
Hi,
Unfortunately I dont know much other, then charge the battery in another HD up if available (maybe u can ask in a telephoneshop or so) and then test the Firmware changes.
Is the same if you charge it via PC/USB?
thx for the reply, did just that, changed Rom/radio, official and dutty's rom's, no change. No problem sync. have atleast 3 usb chargers none of them work. When connected to usb cable 2 lights blink 1 green 1 amber one after each other. just like a new message/ low battery even when battery has 50% I get the same light patern, (this is a new battery).
The thing is when the battery is completly flat it stil charges for 15 sec then it turns of. So when I charge it 15 (x15 sec) times or so I'm able to turn the device on again. But when it has (some) battery power the lights start blinking again and I'm completly unable to charge the battery.
The phone is almost 2 weeks old and charged normaly until I checked the "don't charge when connected to usb" option in the power menu. ??!
Then I think you wont get around, to send it back for repair.
have you tried to charge it with a wall socket or is this only when you usb to pc charge??
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have you tried to charge it with a wall socket or is this only when you usb to pc charge??
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I never charges, wall/usb doesn't matter.
I just used another HD battery to restore everything to default, So I'll guess I'm taking it back..
Thx anyway.
exact same problem
Did you get anywhere with this problem? I have been strugling with the exact same thing... I have tried all the same things as you, only sometimes it seems like it might be the battery contacts.. I havent been able to consistently get it to work but sometimes if I firmly press the battery against the contacts it will behave normally
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Did you get anywhere with this problem? I have been strugling with the exact same thing... I have tried all the same things as you, only sometimes it seems like it might be the battery contacts.. I havent been able to consistently get it to work but sometimes if I firmly press the battery against the contacts it will behave normally
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Nope tried the contacts but they work fine, battery just won't charge, do your light also blink? (on the power button).
I haven't found any info on the web?!?:S
Problem is solved.. had to be sent back to HTC for repair, it took less then 2 weeks (door to door) so that was pretty fast. They swapped the mainbord, so I got my 'old' phone with a new imei.
So don't waste your time with software up/downgrades. It's a hardware problem.
I had a very similar problem.
Once my battery died some app hung system all night.
No charging at all wall charger and USB 1 day each and so many manipulations. The indicator blinks momentarily and then nothing. I didn't try (didn't know) the key presses like Dogtag. Did a hard reset still nothing...
Then thought about charging the battery with external (Lion) charger before sending for repair. I also shorted the battery compartment pins momentarily. To my pleasant surprise everything back to normal
So far no problems after that though I never drained my battery to zero.
Looks like something to do with corruption in battery calibration data - may not be in ROM?? who knows??
fantastic. can u elaberate?
hey Cragee
I did't understand what u did. Can u try to explane it to me one more time?
I'm realy excited about a posible soulution
hooray
ckraft
crajee said:
I also shorted the battery compartment pins momentarily. To my pleasant surprise everything back to normal
So far no problems after that though I never drained my battery to zero.
Looks like something to do with corruption in battery calibration data - may not be in ROM?? who knows??
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Only two things I did can matter -
1. Charging the battery after taking it out (with a battery charger*)
2. shorting pins in the battery compartment after taking out the battery. (Warning: not on batteries)
Don't know which of the two worked.. No harm trying both anyway.
* U need a Li-ion battery charger - else invitation for trouble including fire and explosion.. These are available in electronics shop at a reasonable price.
Short-circuiting the battery pins... seems to work
I had the same problems with my Touch HD the last few weeks:
- stopped charging after a few seconds
- didn't charge at all (nor the wall nor the computer method, on or off)
- well... it charged sometimes but randomly, keeping it on a wall charger (on OR off) for a night could bring it back to 20% and then rapidly back to 0%
- no charging indicator in the screen while turned on
- blinking orange and yellow (?) light even while turned off
- charged almost never to full and 'jumping' from high to ultra low capacity when turning it on & off
So before bringing it back to the store i tried to short circuit the battery pins as suggested (while the battery and charge were unhooked) like the thing you would do to clear the CMOS memmory of a PC in the 'old days'
And for now it seems to work, at least the charging icon is back online!
I'll keep you posted on longer term results!
Update: I switched to the wall charger and the HD died again??? Now it's back on the computer and it seems to charge fine... why????
crajee said:
I had a very similar problem.
Once my battery died some app hung system all night.
No charging at all wall charger and USB 1 day each and so many manipulations. The indicator blinks momentarily and then nothing. I didn't try (didn't know) the key presses like Dogtag. Did a hard reset still nothing...
Then thought about charging the battery with external (Lion) charger before sending for repair. I also shorted the battery compartment pins momentarily. To my pleasant surprise everything back to normal
So far no problems after that though I never drained my battery to zero.
Looks like something to do with corruption in battery calibration data - may not be in ROM?? who knows??
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When u say "shorted the battery" do u mean, turnoing phone off, taking battery out, connecting the 3 battery connectors with a wire for a few seconds?
....so what does shorting mean??
cxkx said:
When u say "shorted the battery" do u mean, turnoing phone off, taking battery out, connecting the 3 battery connectors with a wire for a few seconds?
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I thing so. You should circuit the pins WITHOUT battery. In any other case it may occurs damage on the telephone
Dogtag is right... it's defenitly a hardware problem
As posted before...i had the same problem with my touch HD, charging was a pain or sometimes seemed impossible. The phone was repaired twice.
-First they replaced the connector - no succes.
-Second time the replaced the motherboard, and everything was solved.
So imho it's the mainboard of some machines, i still wonder if it's a factory problem or a 'fried' chip of some kind after a bad charging procedure? Bad USB car charger of some kind?
I have tried my PC and the mains charger, the LED cycles from orange > off > green > off constantly, the phone shows it is charging but the battery keeps decreasing.
Only 30% left to try and find a fix for this, hard reset doesnt help!
Any ideas?
Same problem HD
I had the same problem with my HD ages ago (before HD2) I reflashed the rom and that fixed the problem. The other cause with a HD2 can be a non genuine USB-micro cable I used a Nokia and although the yellow light came on it never charged. I found out that the wire configuration in the nokia cable is diffrent to the HD2.
Hope this helps
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I have tried my PC and the mains charger, the LED cycles from orange > off > green > off constantly, the phone shows it is charging but the battery keeps decreasing.
Only 30% left to try and find a fix for this, hard reset doesnt help!
Any ideas?
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I have the same problem which started after i got a desktop charger.
At the moment I just switch to the spare battery that is in the charger.
I am currently searching to see if anyone else has had similar issues.
Of course I have loaded an official rom , just in case anyone suggests it but will not do mtty till I find evidence it helps.
lakeman
Strange, the only thing I could think of is the option in the battery screen to prevent the phone recharging when plugged into a PC - I have this ticked myself as it's not good for your battery to keep putting it on and off charge. However, it should still charge when plugged into the mains.
lakeman said:
I have the same problem which started after i got a desktop charger.
At the moment I just switch to the spare battery that is in the charger.
I am currently searching to see if anyone else has had similar issues.
Of course I have loaded an official rom , just in case anyone suggests it but will not do mtty till I find evidence it helps.
lakeman
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An update:
the non genuine battery may be the issue
I checked its capacity with htc tools and it seemed fine but needs to be fast charged in the desktop holder.
Anyway thats my theory so far.
Lakeman
Pagnell said:
Strange, the only thing I could think of is the option in the battery screen to prevent the phone recharging when plugged into a PC - I have this ticked myself as it's not good for your battery to keep putting it on and off charge. However, it should still charge when plugged into the mains.
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Thanks, I thought of this but sadly not so simple.
The problem was that the middle pin of the battery connector was slightly bent and just needed pushing back into place. I suggest you all try it as a search of the forum showed me its a common issue.
it only happens for non-genuine battery. just leave it charging over night. or get separate desktop charger for the non-genuine battery.
Similar but different problem...
Battery is genuine as is the USB lead and charger.
Phone is flashed to 1.66 factory Rom , unlocked via unlock code
Had phone for 3 weeks and no real problems , only ever charged on the comp/car via usb. On monday morning the battery was at about 8% so i dug out the mains charger for the first time to give it a fast charge by the time i was ready to go to work the battery was at 30%. On the 2 hr drive i left the phone on charge in the car.
On arrival i checked the phone for messages and it was frozen , i took the battery out and replaced it and the phone fired up with 8% charge.
When i picked the phone up after 2 hrs on charge in the car the bottom (between battery and usb slot was VERY warm.
in the office i put the phone on charge on the mains and no light came on , but the phone seemed to stay at 8% and the back below the battry got warm very quickly.
eventualy after lots of messing about the battery is dead , charging does nothing except mae it very warm.
went into the local t-mobile to get a new battery , they didn't have one but the girl in the shop had a hd2 so we tried her battery in my phone, phone fired up , but still woldn't charge.
Last desperate move i reset the phone to factory settings , still no charge.
Only 2 things happened to the phone prior to the charging issue
a) I activated Microsft Myphone
b) I put in a 16gb mem card
Anyone have any ideas what to try next ?
Return your phone for repair...
yeah its looking that way , just on the hope i missed something
Hi guys I have been facing a strange issue whenever I install any windows phone 7 rom no matter what i do the phone refuses to charge using a usb cable or charger if i go back to android same usb and charger work fine for charging please advise
i noticed that too. on my pc it charges either VERY slow or not at all. because i left my hd2 on usb for 2 hours. it was only halfway full. i though i was going crazy good thing im not the only one who noticed this.
on the wall adapter it charges fine.
For me the above mentioned issue exists on all the roms
I think i found a workaround for people having issues while usb charging on wp7
This a bit of a hassle and has to be done everytime u see that the phone is not charging via usb
uninstall the driver for windows phone device from device manager and then connect the phone it will reinstall the driver and the led will turn red if it blinks that means its not charging
If anyone has this issue and needs detailed steps please let me know
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i noticed that too. on my pc it charges either VERY slow or not at all. because i left my hd2 on usb for 2 hours. it was only halfway full. i though i was going crazy good thing im not the only one who noticed this.
on the wall adapter it charges fine.
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For me the above mentioned issue exists on all the roms
I think i found a workaround for people having issues while usb charging on wp7
This a bit of a hassle and has to be done everytime u see that the phone is not charging via usb
uninstall the driver for windows phone device from device manager and then connect the phone it will reinstall the driver and the led will turn red if it blinks that means its not charging
If anyone has this issue and needs detailed steps please let me know
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I have never heard nor experienced the phone not charging on WP7 on USB. The HD2 takes longer than 2 hours for a full charge if it's at a point of total discharge or close to it. Even on WM 6.5 the HD2 usually takes about 3-4 hrs to fully charge after near total discharge.
Secondly, a blinking LED during charge (whether PC or wall) means your battery and phone are overheated. Overheating happens if you are using the phone while plugged in. Even if blinking it is still charging. Best to unplug until cool..then keep charging and not use the phone.
Buy a second battery and external charger.
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I have never heard nor experienced the phone not charging on WP7 on USB. The HD2 takes longer than 2 hours for a full charge if it's at a point of total discharge or close to it. Even on WM 6.5 the HD2 usually takes about 3-4 hrs to fully charge after near total discharge.
Secondly, a blinking LED during charge (whether PC or wall) means your battery and phone are overheated. Overheating happens if you are using the phone while plugged in. Even if blinking it is still charging. Best to unplug until cool..then keep charging and not use the phone.
Buy a second battery and external charger.
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Wow thanks a ton for the info
but i have a question if i connect the phone to usb the battery blinks and while connected the battery tool shows battery getting drained as well at the top the battery icon shows that the phone is charging. and then if I immeadeatly connect it to the wall charger the blinking goes away and battery tool shows charging active so what can be the issue any help would be appreciated
Also i have tried almost all windows phone 7 roms and my normal drain is -300 to -500 have tried rom with 5.51 and 5.12.50_02 radio as well along with the camera trick still the battery drain is high
Yesterday i installed wm6.5
task 29
install magldr
clear sd mbr
use last 24 nand
install wp7
booted and did camera trick
entered flight mode
still the drain is -150
I love WP7 and dont wish to go back to android sorry for the long post please help
WP on our Leo doesn't have a clue what its doing with the battery, its been an issue from the start.
best bet to get the most out of your device is to get yourself an external charger and spare battery.
even if you do get it charging via USB or the wall adaptor, it might not charge up the device, it might say its full but is only half full, or it might say it half full and its actually full.
UP! Your advice to bring with me to anywhere a package of batteries?? Jesus Christ, I can't believe that nobody cares much about this problem from devs, otherwise there is no point to make a new rom every single day.
Neolo said:
UP! Your advice to bring with me to anywhere a package of batteries?? Jesus Christ, I can't believe that nobody cares much about this problem from devs, otherwise there is no point to make a new rom every single day.
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I really don't think its a "nobody cares" situation. We can be pretty confident that if a solution was at all possible it would have been found and implemented by now. The devs do a great job and i for one am blown away by the roms they produce and offer to to us free.
Every smart phone on the market has battery life issues which tells us even the manufacturers cant really get a grip on the issue either.
You could always hack a li poly bat to fit the HD2, of course that's only if you accept the risk it might swell up and catch fire while charging
i dont think kicking the devs and other forum members will make you many freinds.
Good luck
Neolo said:
UP! Your advice to bring with me to anywhere a package of batteries?? Jesus Christ, I can't believe that nobody cares much about this problem from devs, otherwise there is no point to make a new rom every single day.
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its not about not caring, there are two issues at hand.
the first one is the phone wont charge when turned off, this might be fixable.
the big one is the battery controller, a battery in a phone has a small IC that controls the charge, temps, stats etc. The issue I believe is that the driver which WP users to control the battery controller isn't designed for our device.
The HD2 is similar to the HD7 but it is not the same. The issues we have with it are likely because the driver is either for another device or a basic test driver put together to "make do"
creating a driver isn't a matter of slapping a few files together. So your choices are to
A, give up on the HD2 WP7
B, Make do with what you have
C, Grab a spare battery and external charger
D, Fix the issue yourself, given that some of the most talented folk on here hasn't done this yet suggests this wont be easy!
Flashed 2.12 radio, can't say it's good now, but much better than was with 2.15. I think 2.12 + new battery with bigger capacity (2300) = pretty good solution for now.
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Flashed 2.12 radio, can't say it's good now, but much better than was with 2.15. I think 2.12 + new battery with bigger capacity (2300) = pretty good solution for now.
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except your 2300mAh battery probably wont work at all.
Theres been reported issues with extended batteries either A not working or B having issues, such as only charging part of it.
dazza9075 said:
except your 2300mAh battery probably wont work at all.
Theres been reported issues with extended batteries either A not working or B having issues, such as only charging part of it.
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Crap...
dazza9075 said:
WP on our Leo doesn't have a clue what its doing with the battery, its been an issue from the start.
best bet to get the most out of your device is to get yourself an external charger and spare battery.
even if you do get it charging via USB or the wall adaptor, it might not charge up the device, it might say its full but is only half full, or it might say it half full and its actually full.
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If your phone shows only a half charged battery icon after charging for the full few hours, shutdown the phone and reboot. Doing this shows the correct icon and can confirm via battery status app or battery tool app.
The thing is when you flash a new ROM, it takes the battery, phone, and WP a couple of charge/discharge cycles to get sync'd up and show the proper charges. The key is to let the battery drain until close to total discharge (don't let the phone shut off because of battery or you'll be hosed) then charge a couple of cycles.
Getting a spare battery and external charger is always a good suggestion no matter what.
Yes, restarts are always handy to get full charge, if you do kill your battery so you can't boot to windows, try put phone in bootloader, or magldr, it will charge in there, give it 20 min and windows will boot just fine
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Hi Guys,
Really need some help here. Just recently my note 4 has been failing to charge properly. When I plug my charger, it will charge for a few minutes with my official Samsung Charger but it will stop even with that. It will not charge at all connected to my laptop or my in car charger. This is what I have done so far..
1) Have bought a new battery (phone is 2 years old) New battery made no difference.
2) Have cleaned the hell out of the bottom connector on the phone (does nothing)
Not sure what else it can be. I love this phone and dont want to get rid but cant understand what is wrong.
So new battery, clean connectors, several re starts, taking out cleaning the sim and everything in the phone. What the hell else could it be??
Please help!!!
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Hi Guys,
Really need some help here. Just recently my note 4 has been failing to charge properly. When I plug my charger, it will charge for a few minutes with my official Samsung Charger but it will stop even with that. It will not charge at all connected to my laptop or my in car charger. This is what I have done so far..
1) Have bought a new battery (phone is 2 years old) New battery made no difference.
2) Have cleaned the hell out of the bottom connector on the phone (does nothing)
Not sure what else it can be. I love this phone and dont want to get rid but cant understand what is wrong.
So new battery, clean connectors, several re starts, taking out cleaning the sim and everything in the phone. What the hell else could it be??
Please help!!!
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1.Open dialer and dial *#0228# and press (quick start)at the bottom and hit YES this will reset battery stats and clear and battery calibration issues then turn off your phone and charge full to 100% to recalibrate battery stats.
2.if the 1st method dosent works then Try factory reset
3.flash stock firmware in odin.
Trex888 said:
1.Open dialer and dial *#0228# and press (quick start)at the bottom and hit YES this will reset battery stats and clear and battery calibration issues then turn off your phone and charge full to 100% to recalibrate battery stats.
2.if the 1st method dosent works then Try factory reset
3.flash stock firmware in odin.
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Thanks but tried that and it say's 'invalid mmi code.' Tried factory reset as well still no joy. I just don't get it sometime it will charge for 10 minutes then just stop for no reason. Also when phone swtiched off it doesn't charge at all but vibrates intemittently. Any other suggestions? Thanks for your help.
grsjohn said:
Maybe your charging connector has a problem, test your battery in another phone
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Thanks but I have three different batteries for my Note 4 and they all do this. I fear there is something wrong with the connector in my phone, although it doesn't explain why it will charge for longer sometimes than others, this is what annoys me, its totally random!!! last night I got a full charge out of my phone, today, tried charging and nothing!!!
This is genuine mystery, has my phone got a virus or something?? Why does it charge sometimes then not other times?
I don't want to give up my Note 4 I love the damn thing, any further help would be appreciated with virtual alcohol!
Might be interesting to get one of those Qi wireless charging receivers and a wireless charger to see if it charges correctly that way, bypassing the USB port.
EDIT: I use the Fonesalesman one and a Choetech 3-coil charger.
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Might be interesting to get one of those Qi wireless charging receivers and a wireless charger to see if it charges correctly that way, bypassing the USB port.
EDIT: I use the Fonesalesman one and a Choetech 3-coil charger.
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Hmmm.... that's a good idea, but I thought that the note 4 wasnt capable to charge wireless without an adaptor that that
plugs into the USB port.
I could be wrong though.
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Hmmm.... that's a good idea, but I thought that the note 4 wasnt capable to charge wireless without an adaptor that that
plugs into the USB port.
I could be wrong though.
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I use wireless charging every day, never used the USB port except occasionally to copy large files over and to activate Helium for backup. It does, of course, take longer to charge, but I have a couple of wireless chargers about and just set the phone on whenever I'm near one. Phone rarely drops below 50% charge except if I'm out all day.
You need one of these, once you put the back cover on you'll hardly know it's there - I have a UAG case on too, so it's basically invisible:
https://www.amazon.com/N4-SlimPWRcard-integrated-compatible-recommended/dp/B00OFKS66G
and a wireless charger like one of these:
https://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Charger-CHOETECH-Charging-Samsung/dp/B017U9FVKW
Hope this helps.
I bought a orignal bulky wireless cover, then modifit it and removed the qi plate and put it in the phone and use original cover..more slim and works
Thow i suspect that its other hardware falire..my phone is freezing/restarting without any damn special reason, wireless charge dosent work sometimes, it restarts while wireless charging ...all behaviour having something to do with the Power! i have 3 batteries.
O i think its something to do with hardware, thow i will test flashing a stock room again just to be sure. if nothing above helps u can do the same then if problem still remains so you need to take it to a repair shop.
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I bought a orignal bulky wireless cover, then modifit it and removed the qi plate and put it in the phone and use original cover..more slim and works
Thow i suspect that its other hardware falire..my phone is freezing/restarting without any damn special reason, wireless charge dosent work sometimes, it restarts while wireless charging ...all behaviour having something to do with the Power! i have 3 batteries.
O i think its something to do with hardware, thow i will test flashing a stock room again just to be sure. if nothing above helps u can do the same then if problem still remains so you need to take it to a repair shop.
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Very annoying problem and one that frustrates me because its random! I got it charging for 25 minutes tonight before it, all of a sudden for no reason stops at 44%....
However I today received an external charger that I bought of eBay for a mere £5.99 it's great. Although it means I have to keep swapping batteries, it's by far the most cost effective solution. Until I see a phone that is a significant leap above the Note 4 I refuse to upgrade which, quite frankly the S.7 isn't...