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G1 stilll worth getting?

I'm considering jumping to T-Mobile here in a few days, as my Sprint contract is ending. A friend of mine is selling his G1 for pretty cheap in good condition. That combined with the Even More Plus plans sounds like a better deal than being stuck in a contract again for 2 years.
I know the phone is crazy old, but it still seems to have great support for roms and such. I have no problems with rooting and flashing at all.
Also, for the people who are with T-Mobile right now, if I start a Even More Plus plan right now, would I be able to "upgrade" to contracted phone down the road, which would prompt me to the more expensive plan, should I ever get a real itch for a Vibrant or things coming out later this year.

I just got mine today lol i love it
My other phone is a tilt 2 tho

Really no point. On CL in my city g1s are 60 used 120ish new. It still has awsome support but remember, its close to 2 years old.... With technology going at the pace its at, think of it like comparing a 2010 mustang against a very well maintained 1985 mustang. Its definately a usable phone and will make you pleased, but won't compare with the advancements in speed, fuel economy, safety, etc...
If you asked this question 7-8 months ago, I would have totally recomended it. Now, not so much.
P.S. download the APN on/off widget or APNdroid to turn off data, so you can qualify for cheaper talk/text only plans. Data is roughly $20-30 more expensive, plus your phone will be functional under wifi. Plus battery lasts longer
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i would say the same as mej,
but totally.. now.. its not much worth. I would totally go for a nexus one if i had to buy a new phone

T-Mobile don't even sell G1s anymore, do they?
Anyways, if you're getting a contract, don't buy an old phone! Get a myTouch slide or wait for the Sidekick Twist.

I would just get the Vibrant right now, because I think if you come into your contract with a used G1 you can't get a new phone till you're up for an upgrade. Besides, the Vibrant(along with most of the other Galaxy S lineup) is top of the line right now. They are benchmarking higher video framerates than a EVO 4G. Plus it has 720p HD video recording, and HD video out so you can play back what you recorded on a hdtv. Also has a accelerometer and gyroscope, giving it a 6-axis g-sensor for epic gaming. Oh yeah, and it's the baddest phone T-Mo has right now, period.

I purchases my G1 2 months ago, best buy ever (paid 100 uk pound,around 130euro then, with 8GB microsd, ...).
Still no phone with a tilt keyboard yet (had a tilt, htc kaiser, much better then htc pro, but the G1 has a nicer touch screen (the tilt was also running android 2.1).

If your stuck on Tmobile, don't want to spend too much, and want a new phone before your contract ends, then go for it
Nowadays with a new contract you can get some pretty good phones for really cheap prices

I've had my G1 since I received it after preordering it. It's an EXCELLENT phone. However, it's age is showing. There are some things it simply cannot do and many things it cannot do well.
If you're going the as-cheap-as-I-can route in the short-term, a G1 may do the trick (And, if it were January of 2009, I'd say get the G1.). But, as it's been said before, if you're going to be locked into a 2 year contract, you'll really want to get hardware with enough power to last you those two years and not leave you wanting more.
Personally, if I were buying right now, it would either be a NexusOne or a Vibrant. Something with enough processing power and RAM for Android 2.2+
Good luck!

I got my G1 this past January... and while I don't regret it, there's no chance I'd buy this phone now. Every day I wish this thing had a Snapdragon in it. If you're really worried about contracts go with an unlocked phone for more money upfront - at least with T-Mobile, the plan will be cheaper, so it'll even out.
Again, the G1 is a great phone and I love the design/form factor, but for this day and age it's just not fast enough.

I don't believe you'll be able to take an Even More Plus plan and then go to an Even More plan right off the back, at least not with your same number...but, If you sign up for google Voice at the same time as getting the g1, give out that number to everyone as your new number, when you upgrade your to a contract(if you do), that GV number will still be the same and you'll just have to change the number under your GV settings.
Would I buy a G1 right now? If it was 0-50, maybe 75 with an 8 gig sd card. We've got 2.2 running on our phones now as a daily driver. it makes/receives calls, what more you need from a phone?

Zoltair Wright said:
the G1 is a great phone and I love the design/form factor, but for this day and age it's just not fast enough.
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^^ this i love my dream and i've had it less than a year but would trade up 2 a droid in a heartbeat (i still need that real keyboard even if the droids is crap)

Zardos66 said:
I'm considering jumping to T-Mobile here in a few days, as my Sprint contract is ending.
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I do have one question... why not stay with Sprint? Their plans are competitively priced with T-Mobile, and they have excellent Android devices. The Epic 4G is due out soon, which should be an amazing phone by anyone's standards. And it will have a hardware keyboard, like the G1...
If price is the most important, don't go with T-Mobile. Get an unlocked T-Mobile phone and take it over to Simple Mobile at mysimplemobile.com. They use the same 3G bands as T-Mobile but you get unlimited talk, text, and internet for a flat $60/month.

t140568 said:
I've had my G1 since I received it after preordering it. It's an EXCELLENT phone. However, it's age is showing. There are some things it simply cannot do and many things it cannot do well.
If you're going the as-cheap-as-I-can route in the short-term, a G1 may do the trick (And, if it were January of 2009, I'd say get the G1.). But, as it's been said before, if you're going to be locked into a 2 year contract, you'll really want to get hardware with enough power to last you those two years and not leave you wanting more.
Personally, if I were buying right now, it would either be a NexusOne or a Vibrant. Something with enough processing power and RAM for Android 2.2+
Good luck!
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He is not interested in a contract. He wants to get a used G1.

Well I Just bought one to hold me off until the "Project Emerald" phone comes out. It's better than using a non android phone. I think that using it as a temporary phone it will do the job.

Still an awsome phone but :] mTS 2 for 1 lol

If you don't care about having a fast phone, go for it. I just went from g1 to vibrant, and the vibrant is everything I wanted the g1 to be. The g1 is gonna give you a taste of what android can do, so you may end up wanting something better.
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well ive gone from a blackstone (WM) to a G1 and I love it. If you get the right rom it isnt slow and android is just great I love it....also devs are still making stuff for it all the time its great....

Use as a phone

Yeah I know, not the first thread on the subject
I am a rather happy owner of a Galaxy Tab for the past 36 hours and I just wanted to share my feelings about the usage as a phone. Until I own it I was pretty much convinced this was going to be my main phone, just a question of being able to use a Bluetooth headset with it.
I am not 100% sure anymore.
First, and probably because it's the first time I use a headset I have found this much less convenient than using a phone (This is hopefully just a question of getting used to it). Can't see who is calling (Yep with the right headset the name will show, I may purchase one, but still wont have the picture), people around can hear much better what you're saying, if if you have to manipulate the tab for whatever reason, given its size you feel clumsy
Second, texting while walking in the street is pretty much more difficult. The Tab is big, easy to drop (Read the few threads around of people who broke their screen). It takes me half a second to take my Touch Pro 2 out of my pocket, get the keyboard out and type some messages while walking. And given its size I nearly never dropped it (And whenever I did it always survived without being wounded ). I am definitely slower with my tab (Plus I have to get used to use an on-screen keyboard, but then yeah on this I guess it's a question of getting used to it)
Third (maybe funny): while in meetings I didn't see anybody raise an eyebrow whenever I was texting with my TP2 (looks a bit like a blackberry and anyway quite discrete) I can see how much attention I draw whenever I answer some txt or emails now ! And with the screen size it make sit easy to see what I ma doing... Not the Tab's neg, but for me kind of a drawback
Last one (This one may make some laugh): I love clubbing, bar hoping, etc... I thought it would fit my back pocket. And it does ! however try dancing with that in your back pocket... That's not gonna work And there is no way I'd leave my phone at the cloak, I need it with me (take phone numbers, give direction to friends, etc...). I'd be better off leaving the Tab in the cloak and still go around with a small device (Even an average sized device like my TP2 handles OK while dancing)
I love the form factor, so easy to carry around, but in the end I understand much better Blackberry's approach with the Playbook, it's probably the best way to go, and I am considering using the Tab as a second device.
However I see the pain ahead... Don't wanna have 2 plans. And that's where it sucks. It seems in many countries you are able to have 2 SIM cards with the same number (With kind of a master device and a slave one). Couldn't find anything similar with AT&T in the US If anybody ever heard of this kind of services.... It would be perfect. Then I can still swap SIM cards but that sucks... (And I guess if you do it 5 times a day you may damage your SIM (If not lose it while dropping it)). Another solution is to tether the phone to the Tab (Great I paid for a 3G Tab for nothing !!) but on that I am quite worried about the battery life of both devices Maybe through Bluetooth rather than Wifi ? Would consume less ? If anybody has an idea... Or could try SIM cloning... But it seems it's not really possible anymore with SIM v2 (And besides if the operator doesn't offer the service described above I guess there will be conflicts between the 2 devices at some stage (Not 100% sure but possible)
Anyway... Don't flame me, would just be happy to exchange on the subject with people who have found solutions, have ideas on the matter, or just inform future buyers

Waoh, zero interest on the subject !

Well, i dont have one, but i can defiantly see where using it as a phone could lead to some problems, even if it does fit in you back pocket. It is interesting that you attempted it though, but pulling it out at meetings...thats priceless

Alcibiade said:
I love the form factor, so easy to carry around, but in the end I understand much better Blackberry's approach with the Playbook, it's probably the best way to go, and I am considering using the Tab as a second device.
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I think the irony is that most of us in Europe wouldn't consider using the Tab as primary phone even though it is a fully functional phone, whereas in the US it's the other way around.
However I see the pain ahead... Don't wanna have 2 plans. And that's where it sucks. It seems in many countries you are able to have 2 SIM cards with the same number (With kind of a master device and a slave one).
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In the UK, we don't have the ability to have multiple SIMs with the same phone number either, but it is far less of an issue compared to the US because we have an extremely competitive market for data.
For example, on T-Mobile in the UK, for £20 (around $32) I can get 6 months worth of mobile internet with 1GB FUP which is ideal for a Tab which doesn't go out and about too often - and there's no overages, just an understanding that they may restrict service if you regularly go over your FUP allowance.
For £10 ($16) a month, I can get truly unlimited internet (excludes tethering) on Giffgaff which is ideal for the more mobile Tab.
When it comes to contracts, I have a mobile broadband contract on 3 that gives me 15GB a month for £15, which allows tethering etc.
I'm planning on heading over to Florida for 6 or 7 weeks early next year, and I'm probably going to get a MiFi of some sort with a T-Mobile Web Connect SIM, but it's going to be a hell of a lot more expensive than something comparable in the UK.
Regards,
Dave

NickDroid said:
Well, i dont have one, but i can defiantly see where using it as a phone could lead to some problems, even if it does fit in you back pocket. It is interesting that you attempted it though, but pulling it out at meetings...thats priceless
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The thing is since not so many people know what it is, it attracts attention... So it's not very discrete, while a small phone you can type your personal messages during meetings people don't really pay attention (Or think you're sending professional messages)

foxmeister said:
I think the irony is that most of us in Europe wouldn't consider using the Tab as primary phone even though it is a fully functional phone, whereas in the US it's the other way around.
In the UK, we don't have the ability to have multiple SIMs with the same phone number either, but it is far less of an issue compared to the US because we have an extremely competitive market for data.
For example, on T-Mobile in the UK, for £20 (around $32) I can get 6 months worth of mobile internet with 1GB FUP which is ideal for a Tab which doesn't go out and about too often - and there's no overages, just an understanding that they may restrict service if you regularly go over your FUP allowance.
For £10 ($16) a month, I can get truly unlimited internet (excludes tethering) on Giffgaff which is ideal for the more mobile Tab.
When it comes to contracts, I have a mobile broadband contract on 3 that gives me 15GB a month for £15, which allows tethering etc.
I'm planning on heading over to Florida for 6 or 7 weeks early next year, and I'm probably going to get a MiFi of some sort with a T-Mobile Web Connect SIM, but it's going to be a hell of a lot more expensive than something comparable in the UK.
Regards,
Dave
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Well... I am European... (Although I live in NY)
US carriers suck for data plans. I lived in japan and HK before where for half the price I got much better service... Definitely for £10 a month I wouldn't even bother thinking about using my phone SIM card in my Tab to take advantage of my unlimited data plan (Which by the way in the SU looks more and more like it will be limited by throttling down once you reach a threshold.............)

Why would you need 2 plans with AT&T tab? I guess you didn't want to flash her.
Your other points are completely valid. It is just a matter of personal opinion/wanting to replace the phone with tab enough. Thanks for sharing!

Here are some workarounds you could investigate:
Try a bluetooth stereo headset with a display.
Use the Sony LiveView and wear as a watch.
Type with a tiny bluetooth keyboard.
Get a separate smartphone with a VNC client. Turn on the mobile hotspot, on your Galaxy Tab, and then control it with the smaller smartphone.
How is the Galaxy Tab's battery life as a phone, by the way?

Thanks for the post. I've been thinking to get the tab to replace my I9000 as the main phone, but after I read your post, I think I'll hold it for a while .....

PLinga said:
Here are some workarounds you could investigate:
Try a bluetooth stereo headset with a display.
Use the Sony LiveView and wear as a watch.
Type with a tiny bluetooth keyboard.
Get a separate smartphone with a VNC client. Turn on the mobile hotspot, on your Galaxy Tab, and then control it with the smaller smartphone.
How is the Galaxy Tab's battery life as a phone, by the way?
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I thought about these options... Still not satisfying
Battery life ? I dont phone much but definitely much better than my Touch pro 2 (And I use activesync, bluetooth, etc...)

Former Evo owners?

I have been debating with myself on whether or not to get a galaxy tab. I was wanting to hear from anybody who was a former Evo owner. Does the tab seem a lot bulkier than the Evo? Would you go back to the Evo if you had a chance? I have seen some belt clips for the tab. Does it feel comfortable or does it feel like you have a book glued to your hip.

Former Evo user here:
In terms of bulk, you'd be surprised to know the Tab is actually thinner than the Evo. Of course you'll be carrying a 7" device as opposed to a 4" device so that does take some getting used to. As a woman, I carry it in my purse so I can't actually answer your question on the holster since I don't use one.
I have completely moved from my Evo to the Tab- I downgraded my Evo plan which, with insurance and taxes less my discount, was around $85/month. I moved it down to the basic Talk 200 which is $29.99 and ported my new Tab number to it and switched my old Evo number to the Tab (keep in mind if you choose to do this, you'll need some old windows phone on the Talk 200 plan since the Evo can only have that Everything Data plan). I did the tweak in the development section and now make and receive calls on the Tab. That in addition to the 2GB data and unlimited texts on my plan leave me set in terms of an all-in-one mobile device.
Ultimately, I'm saving money now. My Tab plan is $29.99 plus the $29.99 for the Talk 200- without insurance, plus taxes and less my discount, I should be paying around $50 a month. While I do miss the Evo, no I wouldn't go back.

Thanks for the info. If I get a tab it will be to completely replace the Evo as I would be selling(i.e. "giving") it to my brother in law and he would use it on our plan instead of his intercept and I would be using the tab exclusively. He and I both have been disappointed with the Intercept that he has and he would like to get an Evo. The Evo I have allowed me to give up my pmp and just use the Evo. The tab would allow me to give up my Kindle as well and have a truly all in one device.

evo to tab adjustments
Just recently switched from an Evo to an AT&T GT. It definitely takes some getting used to if the Tab becomes your primary phone. I use a headset, but now I realize just how much I fiddle with my phone while I do other things.
As for the additional bulk--I pretend I'm carrying around a day organizer, and it feels less weird, other than the fact that I'm carrying my day organizer every time I get up to go somewhere.

I have been trying to read as much as I can in forums about it. Is this correct that the sprint version can be rooted but you cannot flash a recovery image to it?

Lindarose84 said:
Former Evo user here:
In terms of bulk, you'd be surprised to know the Tab is actually thinner than the Evo. Of course you'll be carrying a 7" device as opposed to a 4" device so that does take some getting used to. As a woman, I carry it in my purse so I can't actually answer your question on the holster since I don't use one.
I have completely moved from my Evo to the Tab- I downgraded my Evo plan which, with insurance and taxes less my discount, was around $85/month. I moved it down to the basic Talk 200 which is $29.99 and ported my new Tab number to it and switched my old Evo number to the Tab (keep in mind if you choose to do this, you'll need some old windows phone on the Talk 200 plan since the Evo can only have that Everything Data plan). I did the tweak in the development section and now make and receive calls on the Tab. That in addition to the 2GB data and unlimited texts on my plan leave me set in terms of an all-in-one mobile device.
Ultimately, I'm saving money now. My Tab plan is $29.99 plus the $29.99 for the Talk 200- without insurance, plus taxes and less my discount, I should be paying around $50 a month. While I do miss the Evo, no I wouldn't go back.
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That is an awesome plan! I have both the evo and tab from sprint. I would consider leaving the evo, but evo dev community here at xda is awesome plus I have 4g tether...
But still im really considering that option, hopefully sprint will do a material change on thier contracts
Out of curisity, which tweek method did you use?
I can only receive calls with sipdriod and csip. The line2 app wont connect anymore for some reason.
And have you measured your data useage per call?
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ElAguila said:
I have been trying to read as much as I can in forums about it. Is this correct that the sprint version can be rooted but you cannot flash a recovery image to it?
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From what I read, you are correct. I only flashed the kernel and z4 root, 1.2 goodness.
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nzaw4 said:
That is an awesome plan! I have both the evo and tab from sprint. I would consider leaving the evo, but evo dev community here at xda is awesome plus I have 4g tether...
But still im really considering that option, hopefully sprint will do a material change on thier contracts
Out of curisity, which tweek method did you use?
I can only receive calls with sipdriod and csip. The line2 app wont connect anymore for some reason.
And have you measured your data useage per call?
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I'm making calls using CSIP- it took me a looooooong time to get it to work. I kept encountering the error whereas I could receive calls but couldn't make calls. Don't know why. All I did was keep restarting the instructions over and over from the beginning until it finally started working.
That's a good question regarding data usage per call- if there is a way to measure usage per call please let me know and I can test is out. For the most part I'm always on a wireless network. When I leave a wireless network it bounces over to 3G data usage. I think I recall making one call via 3G and it was for 3 minutes so nothing really major. I just checked my data usage online- so far in the 2 weeks I had the plan, I've used 10mb of my 2GB.
While I miss the XDA community roms (was on Myn's ROM), can't really say I ever used 4G (and I live in a 4G area). 3G is good enough for me. HTH.

ElAguila said:
The tab would allow me to give up my Kindle as well and have a truly all in one device.
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Just an FYI, but personally I would not give up my Kindle because of my Tab.
IMO, the Tab is great for occasional reading, but the Kindle's e-ink is vastly superior for extended reading.
Your mileage may vary of course, but I'd wait until you've had both in your hands for a few weeks before deciding to drop the Kindle.
Regards,
Dave

Current EVO and Verizon Galaxy Tab owner. My suggestion is to wait. A slew of new tablets (including the new Tab with dual core processor) are right around the corner. Rumors even say that the Moto Xoom is coming Feb. 17.

Lindarose84 said:
I'm making calls using CSIP- it took me a looooooong time to get it to work. I kept encountering the error whereas I could receive calls but couldn't make calls. Don't know why. All I did was keep restarting the instructions over and over from the beginning until it finally started working.
That's a good question regarding data usage per call- if there is a way to measure usage per call please let me know and I can test is out. For the most part I'm always on a wireless network. When I leave a wireless network it bounces over to 3G data usage. I think I recall making one call via 3G and it was for 3 minutes so nothing really major. I just checked my data usage online- so far in the 2 weeks I had the plan, I've used 10mb of my 2GB.
While I miss the XDA community roms (was on Myn's ROM), can't really say I ever used 4G (and I live in a 4G area). 3G is good enough for me. HTH.
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Yea csip is not working for out going, but with data tracking, 3g watchdog is great.
I also am running myn too. Its an awesome rom. Finally got the evo to run 20 hours moderate usage onbstock battery with sbc... So kinda sucks to leave my baby
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atoy74 said:
Current EVO and Verizon Galaxy Tab owner. My suggestion is to wait. A slew of new tablets (including the new Tab with dual core processor) are right around the corner. Rumors even say that the Moto Xoom is coming Feb. 17.
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But xoom is priced at 700.... Who knows what type of data plan also
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Should I do it?

Alright, I'm deeply considering buying a Xoom. On contract, with the normal dock, a keyboard, and a case. It'd end up being about $800 in the end, so it's kinda be a big pill to swallow. My unibody MacBook Pro costed only $400 more! Anyways, I see the use on a tablet and how convienient it would be, I'm just not sure if I should do this. What do you guys think? What are your gripes about it, and what do you like about it? Any thing I should be aware of? And do you think I should get the 3G/future 4G version or just the WiFi version? :/ And does the hardware acceleration actually make things (such as browsing) as smooth as iOS devices? I still miss my iPhone's great scrolling... I've used Xooms in stores, and the browser didn't seem amazingly smooth (better than my phone, but not amazingly better) I heard that graphics acceleration is turned off by default though. Is that true? Because that would explain my not-perfectly-smooth experience. Your thoughts and opinions would be appreciated Random thought: from what I've seen, the Xoom forum here is filled with mostly friendly people, it's pretty cool.
I would be using this as a laptop replacement btw. (Minus PowerPoint presentations, Photoshop, and such)
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I say go with the xoom. You will be happier in the end. It is much more suited as a laptop replacement than ipad. I would suggest buying off contract if you can. I don't know how you connect but wifi only xoom is 599. I use this model and tether 4g with my phone if needed. I also replaced a netbook with this. It was wifi only so I don't miss much. I rooted mine and OC'd and it runs very smooth. Homescreen page scrolling is not as "snappy" as ipad but I think that will come. Remember honeycomb is new and will only be getting better. And you can always find good support from the members here at XDA. Also, search online for your accessories. I found my dock and keyboard on Amazon for about 35% less than bestbuy. Hope this helps.
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My advice having only used my Xoom for a couple of days is not to bother if you are going to spend that amount on peripherals for it.
I love my Xoom and bought it to replace my Netbook. It's quick, snappy, and oozes potential even though some of the apps are not yet up to the standard they need to be and Honeycomb is still a young platform. I'd recommend the Xoom definitely. However not at the price you are looking at when bundled with addons. Buy it as is or don't is my advice.

Get the WiFi only and tether.
I'd get one with the 3G/LTE if data rates weren't a minimum of $20/mo... when I probably won't use the data allotment. For the same price without a $1000+ two year commitment, I can just tether to my phone when I'm in places where I don't have WiFi... which is not very often.
ETA: I have a Nook Color right now, going to get a Xoom (WiFi only) probably next week or the week after, as soon as I have the coin. I just want some of the capability that the Xoom has over the Nook!

Wifi version only. If you think 800 is bad then don't forget to factor in 2 years of monthly data fees. It really won't restrict you. I went from a 3g I pad to xoom/tether combo and I haven't noticed any difference save for a lower monthly bill.

I agree, get the wifi and tether. This is what I do with my Captivate. I tether thru the Captivate's wifi.

If I hadn't gotten the 25% off deal when it was released I would have waited for the WiFi only version. Tethering with my jailbroken iPhone works great! I am actually tempted to try the Asus Transformer WiFi only as well. But the Xoom is definitely nice.

[Q] xoom wifi vs 3g?

i can buy a 3g xoom with a dock and case locally off craigslist for the same price as a new wifi version. is there a advantage to one or the other? i know they root a little bit different and i think i read that the overclock\sd card kernal is havong some issues on the wifi version ( might be wrong). so is there a advantage to on or the other?

I have no issues with my overclock or sd, and I am on wifi only.
You just need to ask youself the main question, do you want the mobile radio for data and such or are you fine with only wifi? Personally, I have an evo that I can hotspot with and have no need for another monthly bill, plus gps works without the data connection so decide what you need and then go that route. (I would buy new if you have the ability to hotspot)

i have the ability on my x, but from what i hear not for much longer. which root method did you use? the adb or "one click"? did you flash 1.4.0 then 1.4.1? also just saw it comes with a screen protector too.. so 3g xoom case dock and screen protector for same cost as a wi-fi xoom. i just went on Motorola's site and checked serial number.... 1 year warranty expires april next year so its pretty much brand new with the accessories foe what id pay for a new wifi model

I’d buy the 2nd hand 3G Xoom, since it’s the same price as WIFI only and comes with accessories. Plus the 3G Xoom will have better resell value.
I found in the past mobile phone hotsport produce slow connection speed and kills the host’s battery very quick. The hotsport is a work round solution to the lack of mobile data connection, I'd just put the sim card from your mobile in to the Xoom if you need 3G access (so along as you have data plan on your phone of course).
P.S. I don't think you can go wrong with either choice, there are no better featured Android tablets on the horizon until next year when quad core processors come out.

i liked the acer tablet too, but since i do about 150 miles a day on my bike i deff like moto's build quality better. i feel like id rattle the acer apart! im gonna meet the guy at the verizon store so it can be checked to make sure it is clean and can be activated if i want. ill look into month to month plans while im there.