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Im in the northern chicago area and I'm able to connect to 4g but the connection is slow and unstable...(even with 4 bars). Ive extended the idle time using ##data# but still I have the same issues??? Anybody with a solid connection care to share their ##data# settings? Im thinking the issue might in the settings......
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I'm in Seattle and see similar 4G behavior. Usually 2 bars or so and not great performance (marginally better than 3G). I'd be interested to see if this can be improved by tweaking the settings also.
the 4G antenna in the EVO is half the size of the USB one, I don't even get signal at my house on my EVO, yet I get 1.5MBs on my USB stick. Size matters.
Idk about 4G but i just moved into a new house and i have TERRRIBLE reception no matter where i am. If im not outside, it sucks. Its funny though, as soon as i step out the door, 5-6 bars. Im keeping the phone in hopes that as soon as they get 4G around here (Elmont, NY... Long Island), things will change. =\
sprints 4g is in a horrible part of the spectrum. it's frequency is too high to pass through anything
This thread does not belong here. Take this drivel to the appropriate subforum.
unless you are a running a stock rom with the latest updates, i don't think you can make any of these complaints that you all are unless 4g isn't fully up and running in your city. My girlfriend just got the white evo and we installed the latest updates and she gets a very good 4g signal, i have the black evo running fresh 0.5.3 and i get a pretty good signal myself. Not to mention we live in mpls and 4g isn't even officially here yet. A lot of these problems people are having are user errors, flashing things with no knowledge of what they are doing. I would say go back to stock do to ota update with the new radio and wimax enhancements then tell me what type of 4g coverage you are getting. otherwise you are just trusting the chef that everything is set up right which i would take with a grain of salt because non of them seem to understand exactly how the wimax radio works as of yet. Proof of this is all the problems people are having after trying numerous roms
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I'm in Seattle and see similar 4G behavior. Usually 2 bars or so and not great performance (marginally better than 3G). I'd be interested to see if this can be improved by tweaking the settings also.
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That's not very encouraging, I am very disappointed by Sprint's 3g speeds. I have yet to see over 1mbs, and over the 4th of July weekended saw .2-.7 mbs. Yes, .2 as in 192kbs. This was in Miami.
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This thread does not belong here. Take this drivel to the appropriate subforum.
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I started this thread with the intentions of looking into the settings of the wimax ##data# menu....not too rant about the service. I believe with the good signal I'm getting and the fact that I do connect shows that there's an issue with either the roms were flashing or the setting mentioned above. Anybody care to post their settings?
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Changing the wimax idle sleep time from 10 secs to 300 secs could help. My 4G stays on pretty much constantly now instead of switching back and forth between 4G and 3G. You would need your MSL to edit the settings though.
I have similar issues in the chicago land area as well. Very frustrating. I am using a stock rooted rom, but I am using an older OTA update. When I'm outside I always have a strong 4G signal. However, as soon as I go in doors I either loose the signal or have a very weak one. Before you say anything about updating, my GF's EVO is completely stock with the newest OTA update and her 4G behaves very similarly. I actually pick up a better signal at times. It just sucks because if the signal was just a LITTLE bit stronger I would be really happy.
Thats just due to the spectrum used for wimax is at such a high frequency that it does not penetrate walls very well. I'm not sure how sprint will try to remedy this problem, I'm not sure but I get strong signals at my work office and thats inside a building. At home I can get 4G if I am outside once inside I cant seem to get it at all.
What's "##data#" ? I would search it but haven't quite figured it out yet on the app. Google didn't help either (surprisingly).
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Im in the northern chicago area and I'm able to connect to 4g but the connection is slow and unstable...(even with 4 bars). Ive extended the idle time using ##data# but still I have the same issues??? Anybody with a solid connection care to share their ##data# settings? Im thinking the issue might in the settings......
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jr - I am in Gold Coast and recently noticed the 4G signal was junk. It used ot be great inside my 13th floor apartment. I went to the sprint store and they said one of the towers was being serviced (they called a tech. and he said this while I was there). They said end of this week it would be fixed. I was going to give them another week or so and see what the deal is then.
IMO it kind of defeats the purpose of having 4G then. 90% of the time that I want to surf the internet or use 4G I'm indoors, and I would imagine that goes for pretty much everybody. I know this isn't a problem for everybody so it seems, but I think for a lot of people it is.
interesting you say 4 bars of 4g. when i look at my phone i can get up to 6 vertical bars for 3g's signal strength, but with 4g on, and outside i can get 3 "bars" more like "upper wifi arcs" above the 4g signal. and inside my 4g doesn't even register anything, it just shows 4g with no arcs...
however my technique is to put the phone right next to the window and run my micro usb cable from there to my computer. and i then get great data connection...
still experimenting, (had the phone for less than a week) but i think it might work better to go to menu/settings/wirless&networks/ and uncheck mobile network so the phone doesn't use the 3g for data connection when 4g isn't there...
thus if the 4g signal is low, it doesn't drop it to grab the higher signal 3g...
lastly. i'm heading to the store to try to pick up a 2 buck plastic soap dish with a suction cup for the "high tech holding station" on my window. that and a 10 foot micro usb cable i think that will help even more...
best of luck.
I have figured out where in my neighborhood I can get a 4G signal (and I too keep my phone near the window when I want to use it at home). However since the OTA, I noticed that if my 4G signal drops it won't come back unless I toggle the 4G radio. It will just sit in "scanning" and use 3G.
Anyone else noticing this problem?
I would assume that one of the settings/timers need to be tweaked, but I have no idea what my those values were before the OTA.
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Idk about 4G but i just moved into a new house and i have TERRRIBLE reception no matter where i am. If im not outside, it sucks. Its funny though, as soon as i step out the door, 5-6 bars. Im keeping the phone in hopes that as soon as they get 4G around here (Elmont, NY... Long Island), things will change. =\
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4G has nothing to do with 3G. Clearwire maintains the 4G network and Ericsson maintains the 3G/1X network do if your 3G is bad now, it won't be any different when 4G launches unless Ericsson improves the situation.
If I'd got this device predominantly for 4G...Id've returned it in day one...(IN Chicago also). In fact wouldn't have bought it going in knowing what I knew about the spottiness of tapping into 4G frequency wirelessly.
that makes absolutely no sense.
per your words, 4G has nothing to do with 3G as in Clearwire has nothing to do with Ericsson so what would it matter if Ericsson decided to step its game up if Clearwire is the 4G company?
4G is on a whole different frequency not to mention a whole different tower technology and tower location possibly so there's definetly a good chance that I can maintain a great 4G signal once it arrives in my area compared to the terrible 3G coverage I get.
well see what happens... my luck they will never put 4G by me lol.
Anyone else having data problems around the state??? It is ****ty for sure.
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Near Orlando and I just got 4kbps down, 60kbps up and a ping of 791ms with speedtest's Tampa server. I've also been messing around with my phone trying to get my PRI updated all day so it could be caused by that.
Just a few minutes ago I had to restore a nandroid because I was getting the error 67 / invalid login messages.
Edit: Just tried again and the speedtest app said my download speed was -0kbps, somehow I doubt that is accurate
Sounds like you are having some of the same problems I'm seeing in AZ. Sprint seems to be having issues.
Have had trouble with my 3G for about ten days now. Sarasota/Bradenton area. Sometimes it functions normally, sometimes I can't get a bare bones map from Google to download. I'm on Sprint's network and I suspect the slow 3G speeds may have to do with 4G testing going on around the state. I know Tampa just went hot and the 3G speeds up there were horrendous for about 2 weeks prior to the roll-out. Whatever problems they were having seem to have been sorted out. I was driving in Tampa on Monday with no trouble on 3G.
I spoke with a Sprint rep today who indicated 4G should be live in this area by the end of next week.(Hope, hope.)
Nope, mine is running good today. Last night I went back to stock group deodexed whatever the update letter was. It's running good. Eating battery a bit more than cyanogen rc1, but I got tired of poor reception so I'm trying something different.
I'm over in Melbourne and it has been terrible all day. I'm glad it isn't just me.
Tampa here. Its been hit and miss. When 4G first hit, I could pull 5-6Mbps on 4g and 1Mbps on 3G. Now I can't even pick up 4G where I used to at work, 4G at Busch Gardens is about 2Mbps and 3G is running around 500kbps.
Definitely something screw the last 4 or 5 days.
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I'm over in Melbourne and it has been terrible all day. I'm glad it isn't just me.
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Seems like its been slow here all week. Its not as bad as it was earlier but around eau gallie and hwy 1 it's still running at a third the speed it was before.
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Seems like its been slow here all week. Its not as bad as it was earlier but around eau gallie and hwy 1 it's still running at a third the speed it was before.
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I'm usually home using wifi near US1 and babcock but I was up in Viera tonight and got better speeds while roaming 2g on verizon than 3g on sprint. I'm glad cyanogenmod has the "affiliated networks" option.
I live around the Tampa area but have traveled to north Florida for the weekend and the trip this afternoon was horrible for data. No data coverage from Tampa to ocala at all on I75 using my evo or the data card so I know its not a phone problem. It's the network.
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I am near Orlando and it has been ****ty 3g. I thought it was my rom. I called sprint and told them i couldn't connect over 3g so they gave me my MSL number and did a restore. Now i have an updated PRI and am getting about a 1meg down. This is double compared to what i was getting before considering where i live.
Yeah, there were times yesterday I couldn't even connect. It was making my Word Feud playing and Pandora listening extremely unenjoyable.
I'm in Miami. Near the airport. About a week ago I was riding to work and when I got to work I saw that it had picked up a 4g connection somewhere along the way. Haven't been able to find it again though
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I currently live in Jacksonville near Regency area , and have weak 4G service . I have been told there are currently two 4G towers in Jacksonville that are active . If they are I must be on the very edge of it so I dont even use it at this point .
yeah my 3g service is stuggling in Jacksonville
4g seemd to be working ok yesterday in tampa, just the 3g was crap.....Today is a brand new day, hopefully the system has repaired itself...Lets see....
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I currently live in Jacksonville near Regency area , and have weak 4G service . I have been told there are currently two 4G towers in Jacksonville that are active . If they are I must be on the very edge of it so I dont even use it at this point .
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UPDATE !
Apparently I tried sending two pic texts and the phone is having issues just sending those . I keep getting the unable to send message over and over again . Sprint what the hell are you doing ROFL
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I am near Orlando and it has been ****ty 3g. I thought it was my rom. I called sprint and told them i couldn't connect over 3g so they gave me my MSL number and did a restore. Now i have an updated PRI and am getting about a 1meg down. This is double compared to what i was getting before considering where i live.
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How did you update your PRI?
I don't know if he was referring to the thread about connecting you a different tower regardless of the towers provider..... But if you look around its in the site somewhere...
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And isn't jacksonville supposed to have 4g at this point?
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Well, not sure if anyone else has had this issue with their G2 yet, but I got mine today and found that the 3G/HSPA+ (I'm in Austin and we're an HSPA+ location) doesn't work. Edge is working fine, wireless works fine, but I had no hi speed data.
Spent a while on the phone with T-Mobile and they tried everything. Swapped SIM cards for the new one, master reset, checked my coverage area, checked my account, etc. No dice. Phone has been deemed defective. Grrr...my brand new G2 birthday gift. Oh well, replacement is being shipped out.
oh that just sucks... oooooooo i need to get home and open mine also now! and pray for the H lol... hspa+ area also
I live in charleston SC, we do not have HSPA+ just 3G. My phone shows the "H" when on 3G, how are ever going to tell if we are on 3G or HSPA+?
The "H" means you definitely have HSPA. The only way you'll know the difference between HSPA and HSPA+ is probably the speed. Unless there's something in the testing menu that shows you the difference.
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it should actually say "H+" if you in a HSPA+ area
The user manual actually says that it will show the H if you're on the HSPA, HSPA+, or 3G network.. so I don't know how we'll be able to tell unless we speedtest it.
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The user manual actually says that it will show the H if you're on the HSPA, HSPA+, or 3G network.. so I don't know how we'll be able to tell unless we speedtest it.
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you are correct.
I don't notice any speed increases from the g2 compared to my nexus one regarding the data network
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I don't notice any speed increases from the g2 compared to my nexus one regarding the data network
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You probably won't until they throw the switches on in all areas of your town. only like 10% of the towers in mine actually use HSPA+... the other 90% at still on HPSA/UTMS. Give it more time...
This is the one single aspect about the G2 that kicks the N1's butt. The 3G connection and radio reliability is awesome! Everything else is a wash for me. I'm actually starting to like the keyboard a little, too.
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I git a h g the e my house sucks I only get e inside ill test it out speed test tomorrow when im not home
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Fascinating... I think they are shipping some of us Desire Zs stamped T-Mobile by accident... 1.5GB NAND, no HSPA+... Seems to fit.
If you have a G2, can you please vote in this thread to indicate the hardware: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=796421
Also, if you feel so inclined to post and say if your HSPA/3G works, that would be appreciated.
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I live in charleston SC, we do not have HSPA+ just 3G. My phone shows the "H" when on 3G, how are ever going to tell if we are on 3G or HSPA+?
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I'm in Charleston. Pretty sure we have HSPA+
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I'm in Charleston. Pretty sure we have HSPA+
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Nope.
t-mobile-coverage.t-mobile.com
Click on "Network Speed". They have a map. No where in SC yet or "coming soon"
I'm in Columbia.
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Nope.
t-mobile-coverage.t-mobile.com
Click on "Network Speed". They have a map. No where in SC yet or "coming soon"
I'm in Columbia.
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http://www.dailytech.com/TMobile+Expands+4GLike+HSPA+Network/article18741.htm
I've also called to verify. Columbia doesn't have HSPA+, Charleston does.
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t-mobile-coverage.t-mobile.com
Click on "Network Speed". They have a map. No where in SC yet or "coming soon"
I'm in Columbia.
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That site actually says HSPA+ is in Charleston, Anderson, and Greenville. Thanks for backing me up. ;p
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That site actually says HSPA+ is in Charleston, Anderson, and Greenville. Thanks for backing me up. ;p
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Oh wow, I feel retarded. In my defense, it's not marked on the map! I hope the Greenville/Anderson towers reach Clemson!
Telus 3G icon and H icon
If I can ask for one more clarification.
Up here in the Great White North I am with Telus who has HSPA+ coverage in my area : Montreal (no 2G available at all)
The icon on my Desire shows 3G unless I am accessing data then it flashes the H with the up and down arrows.
I am assume this is correct and the "H" only makes an appearance when it needs to access the data network. The rest of the time it stays as 3G
Important today as they had major connection issues and the H was not appearing even when I was trying to browse or update Facebook.
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I live in charleston SC, we do not have HSPA+ just 3G. My phone shows the "H" when on 3G, how are ever going to tell if we are on 3G or HSPA+?
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H is hsdpa
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Fascinating... I think they are shipping some of us Desire Zs stamped T-Mobile by accident... 1.5GB NAND, no HSPA+... Seems to fit.
If you have a G2, can you please vote in this thread to indicate the hardware: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=796421
Also, if you feel so inclined to post and say if your HSPA/3G works, that would be appreciated.
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Yeah. I've seen speedtests on youtube and the G2 has been so disappointing. I was all excited to see 8Mb download speeds then it gets... 600Kb? WTF is that?
Heck, in one video the dude tests the G1 and G2 side by side in Speedtest and the G1 won! This is enraging! HSPA+ is T-Mobiles biggest marketing tool right now yet they made no effort to even see if it worked.
Is anyone else experiencing problems with 3G staying connected today in the Philadelphia / South Jersey area?
4G is working and stays connected but my 3G data connection keeps dropping. The 3G icon will disappear from the bar when the connection drops. I have a good signal, or so it seems, and i'm in an area where I typically never have a problem. I am running the latest stock OTA firmware without root on 0003 hardware. I have tried rebooting and updating my profile / PRL.
Any suggestions or feedback would be appreciated...
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Is anyone else experiencing problems with 3G staying connected today in the Philadelphia / South Jersey area?
4G is working and stays connected but my 3G data connection keeps dropping. The 3G icon will disappear from the bar when the connection drops. I have a good signal, or so it seems, and i'm in an area where I typically never have a problem. I am running the latest stock OTA firmware without root on 0003 hardware. I have tried rebooting and updating my profile / PRL.
Any suggestions or feedback would be appreciated...
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Hmm... people think that sprint "may" be planning some kind of network change due to slow speeds everywhere. Could be whats happening there?
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Hmm... people think that sprint "may" be planning some kind of network change due to slow speeds everywhere. Could be whats happening there?
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i hope this is what's happening.
Not having problems in philly today, buy had tons of trouble last week. Maybe its related to areas? I'm south/south west philly.
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Phoenix is in the ****ter right now. .02mbs average speedtest...
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Phoenix is in the ****ter right now. .02mbs average speedtest...
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new york as well, one thing that seems to fix some issues (not all of em) is going into the keypad, dial ##3282# press Edit Mode enter your msl then go into data profile, press the menu key and press reset, that seems to help a little...
if u need ur msl code download msl reader from the market (free app)
Thanks for the feedback... For now at least my connection is solid. Today was the first time I've ever experienced this issue.
Sprints network is suckin all over the place for the past month or 2. Youll going to be waiting a very long tome.to use anything that involves data usuage. Your lucky if you get to watch a full you tube vid without getting an error message. Sometimes when i send a pic message it just stays sending for hours. I called and complained...they gave me a $30 credit for bad servide. I also told them even though they issued me a credit and if the issue is not resolved in 2wks i will be cancelling my contract with them and i better not get a cancleation fee for doing it cause it is not my fault. Rep ....actually i think it was a supervisor that said it is a coverage issue im having and blamed it on out towers, wich is bs cause ive called.several times and complained. So either A. they take to long to fix.issues or B. It happens way to often and i cant use my phone for.the reasons i bought it for. I actually dropped the call cause of poor service while on the phone with another rep.
I gave sprint a chance...now its back to verizon. Prices are great on sprint but what good is it if i never have service.
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Sprints network is suckin all over the place for the past month or 2. Youll going to be waiting a very long tome.to use anything that involves data usuage. Your lucky if you get to watch a full you tube vid without getting an error message. Sometimes when i send a pic message it just stays sending for hours. I called and complained...they gave me a $30 credit for bad servide. I also told them even though they issued me a credit and if the issue is not resolved in 2wks i will be cancelling my contract with them and i better not get a cancleation fee for doing it cause it is not my fault. Rep ....actually i think it was a supervisor that said it is a coverage issue im having and blamed it on out towers, wich is bs cause ive called.several times and complained. So either A. they take to long to fix.issues or B. It happens way to often and i cant use my phone for.the reasons i bought it for. I actually dropped the call cause of poor service while on the phone with another rep.
I gave sprint a chance...now its back to verizon. Prices are great on sprint but what good is it if i never have service.
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Thats pretty much how im starting to feel at this point. I just keep thinking if im going to switch I need to go ahead and do it while they still have the unlimited data. Trying to see when the Thunderbolt is going to drop.. I see a lot of people saying Feb some time.
Im lucky that I live in KC where the sprint campus is. Our service is always running great. Except the building I work in sucks for signal. Walk outside and I go from no bars to full bars.
The data network has been complete **** in Idaho for a month! Its driving me nuts!
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Anyone feel like reporting this issue to.engadget? Feels.like.maybe that is the only way we will get some real answers on wtf is going on.
I'm northwest of Philly, Gwynedd to be more precise. I just just got .26 Mbps down and .48 Mbps up. I think that is pretty sucky and I have to tether my iPad all day to that speed.
Im in philly (west) & Im ok. 4g is a lil slower than i originally experienced, 3g is just ok. Either way it has been a slight "slow down" since i first got my phone. I kinda have just been tolerating it....
I agree with philly. When I first got my evo I was amazed at the speed of everything. Especially 4g. When ur 4g speed tests start to match your t-mobile buddies 3g speed test there is a problem. It seems to have dropped quality over the last month here in Austin tx as well. Hopefully Feb 7th is good news. I just upgraded two of my lines with two year sa.
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From day one, I have had isues with signal strength. It will be 6 bars one second and then no bars the next while in the same spot. Is there yet a solution?
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Same here. I get the infinite sms and send failed all the time. Messed up thing is the only rom this doesn't happen to me in is stock. Go figure.
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Mine has always been stock no mods running froyo
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I have the same problem. Mine will go from perfect signal to the damn 1x icon with no bars and be so slow. Even though on in the same spot when I had full signal. It pisses me off.
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Same here
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I have the same problem too.It's even worse when i'm 4G.it sucks
If you install roam control from the market, it will force your phone to roam and in the process turn your phone into a verizon phone since you will be using there towers It solved all my reception issues, just be sure to check allow data roaming and you most likely will not have another problem with reception. Oh also you must be rooted for it to work
Yeah but when using roam control the internet speed isn't 3g
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The 3g icon is displayed on my phone and actively in use since i enabled data roaming, so i dont see your point? Data is fast and reception is good, dont be a debbie downer
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The 3g icon is displayed on my phone and actively in use since i enabled data roaming, so i dont see your point? Data is fast and reception is good, dont be a debbie downer
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try testing your speed. just because the 3g icon is displayed doesn't mean you're getting it. and the contract between sprint and verizon stipulates that sprint customers roaming on verizons network are restricted to 1x speeds.
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try testing your speed. just because the 3g icon is displayed doesn't mean you're getting it. and the contract between sprint and verizon stipulates that sprint customers roaming on verizons network are restricted to 1x speeds.
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Thank you. That is my point. Your not on 3g
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Im on wifi most of the time anyways, and when Im not (If I remember) I turn on 4g, so thats probably why I never noticed 3g being any different As far as signal strength, roam control does make you have excellent service for making calls, there is no denying that.