Hi Everyone,
I have big problem which is i cannot close apps. When im done with app i cant close them. I push back button, but it just send app to background. So it is still working and draining battery all the time.
I have same problem with every app. I have Advanced Task Killer Pro but i dont want to use it all the time. It is ridiculous.
And some apps are restart after i close them with Advanced TK Pro. Like Letsgolf,postcard.. I dont want those. I will uninstall them if i can..
I need to close apps when im done with app and uninstall some other apps. Is there any solution for that ? Because it is really annoying and big problem. Simply draining battery..
Thank you for reading.
Best regards.
Are you new to android? You dont have to close every app like lets say symbian or windows mobile, only worry about closing certain games or apps that keep using data frequently, read up on android if this is your first device, anyway If you feel uncomftorble use task killer to stop all or whatever apps you want, not everything will close though, its just the way android works, youre fine.
Where is the problem with the Arc...?
You're referring to the normal behavior of the Android OS. This is normal. If you're not getting over 40 hours of battery life with regular use, you may have downloaded some strange applications.
aaaahh.. iead1.. I've missed your supportive and incisive retorts ! ;-) saved me a job!!
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Please REMOVE the BIG forum title, you are jumping to your own conclusions and distorting public views of ARC.
Next time read more and find out before you post
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aaaahh.. iead1.. I've missed your supportive and incisive retorts ! ;-) saved me a job!!
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Haha. Just trying to set the record straight, tis all.
I thought it was an April fools joke that was a little late
So where is the "BIG" problem with the ARC? What a lame and misleading title! Go read up on Android OS and how it behaves first before freaking out!
It's not about ARC i know that. But i just want to tell my phone is ARC,whatever. I used Linux and i know how it works. But when it comes to phone. Things change. Gallery,Camera,Google Maps,Browser.. When you start apps like that. If you cant close them they are draining battery in background also using RAM for nothing. And it is something that i cant deny.
And think about you didnt restart your phone like 2-3 days. And apps you start never close and working in background. It is a PROBLEM need to solution. Thats not nothing.
Thanks for comments.
MODs please delete these type of threads !!!
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MODs please delete these type of threads !!!
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Could just rename the thread.
Or if closing the thread is the solution, please direct it to a thread where answers can be found.
I'm new to Android and interested to know more about this kind of behavior too.
so do you mean that app will close after a while ...?
can somebody tell me more about it ..?
If you are using MODs like MIUI or CM. you can close apps with Push Back button a bit. They resolve that problem.
But in Original Android 2.3.2. you cant close apps except Apps which have Exit button itself. It is simply absurd, i think anyway.
I get it. This is how linux work. But we are using it in Smartphone. Which means we have Battery. If i cant close big apps like Google Maps etc. its gonna keep draining battery background.
iead1 said:
If you're not getting over 40 hours of battery life with regular use, you may have downloaded some strange applications.
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I've never gotten 40 hours out of a single charge on my Arc.
oojjii said:
I get it. This is how linux work. But we are using it in Smartphone. Which means we have Battery. If i cant close big apps like Google Maps etc. its gonna keep draining battery background.
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Do you really think the developers of the android OS didnt think of this?
Theyre not draining battery in the background. Theyre idle. Theyre not doing anything. At all. Think of it like a solid state mp3 player, you used to see people posting on forums panicking that there isnt a stop button, just a pause button, like pausing it will wear out the mp3 file or something. They just dont understand that technology has moved on. The same thing has happened here: android isnt windows (although most windows apps dont eat any power when theyre minimised either, theyre idle, waiting for user input).
Also: they arent wasting memory. If the memory is needed for soemthing else, the android OS frees it up by closing (i.e. unloading) the idle app, but only when it's needed. No point in freeing it up too early, because you may wish to switch back to (i.e. unpausing) the app. This is more efficient.
There are *some* apps (e.g. music player, gps location tracker app) which will continue to run in the background, and yes this will drain battery, but these apps will have the ability to start/stop their services (e.g. pause music, stop tracking gps), and/or exit completely. If there is an app somewhere which continuously runs and doesnt give you a way to pause/exit then it's a very badly programmed app and you should uninstall it, but i dont know what those apps may be, because i cant think of one.
In summary, stop complaining about something like it's the end of the world if you dont have a clue what youre talking about.
Oh finally.
A man who knows what he is talking about. Thanks god.
And thank you. I really learned something from your post.
İ tried and see many combination about it. It is not a big problem for me i just want to learn why it is like that. And i thought it is drain battery..
Okay some apps like Lets Golf or post card doesnt using battery even if they seems like running. But what about Internet Browser ? I cant even close it with one click. I use back button for close. And when i push it it go back first. Simply, i need to come back first page i loaded for close browser. Even i get there and push back. It is still running ( yes running, i can see it in battery options and using battery %2-5). And google maps is same thing. Even i push back and disappear them they keep running and using battery (%3-6 for it ). What can i do for it ?
I'm not complaining about it that much. I really like my telephone and android. I just want to learn something and if this is a problem i want to resolve it thats all.
Anyway, thank you again for your useful answer.
Best regards.
well i think its not a real problem
btw thxxx for ppl who help us
Güncel Konu ..
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How do i close a program in the magic, i dont want it running in the background. Is there a prog like a taskmanager or something..??
Hi ,
Download "advance task manager lite" off the Market. This is a very very helpful app which can close all your programs running and very simple to use. And it is Free.
If you need anymore help feel free to post back
CLLC
There is no such app in my market. Can anyone share a free version? Thanks
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There is no such app in my market. Can anyone share a free version? Thanks
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It's a free version. The actual name is "Advanced Task Manager Lite" so do a search on "Advanced".
I did do a search and can't find it. Anyone else managed to find it under Rogers in Canada?
I can easy find it. I use it every day, but i find it a bit strange that you cant close apps in any other way! And alot of programs doesnt have a "Quit/Exit" function.
Does anyone have any explanation to why its not possible to close programs without download extra programs?
you know,
I think i heard Something about when you leave the app , it does actually sort of close.
It saves the state you left it in (freezes) and unfreezes when you enter it again. So really the App is not running or using any comsumption at all until you are in the app.
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you know,
I think i heard Something about when you leave the app , it does actually sort of close.
It saves the state you left it in (freezes) and unfreezes when you enter it again. So really the App is not running or using any comsumption at all until you are in the app.
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This is true.
It is because android is awesome at app management. There is no real need for closing apps. It leaves apps kinda open (saves their state in ram) but not running. That`s why most apps open so fast. And even though more ram is "in use" it doesn`t cost you battery life.
Thanks for confirming ,
What a fantatic way , The OS is fantastic and I can guarantee that Android has alot of potential and Can only get better and come up with more technological breaking idea's!!
CLLC
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you know,
I think i heard Something about when you leave the app , it does actually sort of close.
It saves the state you left it in (freezes) and unfreezes when you enter it again. So really the App is not running or using any comsumption at all until you are in the app.
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Oh i didnt know that!! Sounds really fantastic. I have to get used to a whole new way of thinking then, i think im too used to windows
Anyway. I love Android more and more. But i was shocked when i found out that you cant send or receive files via bluetooth. I hope this is their number 1. priority in the next released. I mean, comon .. phones have been able to do this for 10 years now!
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I did do a search and can't find it. Anyone else managed to find it under Rogers in Canada?
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i did not find it either. i m using rogers too
but you can download Close Everything at Market for free.
i think those apps are similar. the only difference is you have to close EVERYTHING instead of choosing an app to end it.
anyway, the system is not getting slower even i open lots apps.
maybe, the "freeze" thing is true
yesterday I had my phone fully charged before i got to sleep, in the morning 8 hours later the battery was almost empty. GPS and WIFI was disabeld, so I think all the programs in the "background" ( a lot ) killed the battery.
Or what do you think killed the batt?
nevil said:
i did not find it either. i m using rogers too
but you can download Close Everything at Market for free.
i think those apps are similar. the only difference is you have to close EVERYTHING instead of choosing an app to end it.
anyway, the system is not getting slower even i open lots apps.
maybe, the "freeze" thing is true
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But I thought if you close EVERYTHING the alarm will not work?
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yesterday I had my phone fully charged before i got to sleep, in the morning 8 hours later the battery was almost empty. GPS and WIFI was disabeld, so I think all the programs in the "background" ( a lot ) killed the battery.
Or what do you think killed the batt?
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that did not happen to me yet
if you disable background data usage in data sync that will save batt life and lower data usage too.
do not know if that helps at all
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But I thought if you close EVERYTHING the alarm will not work?
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alarms still work (tested just now)
i do not know how that app works ~oops~
maybe it does not work at all hahaha
not all programs stop running. some are designed to run in the background
the only real way to check what is running is to use a task manager
I paid $0.99 for advanced task manager. Its a good, but basic app. And hardly breaks the bank at that price!
The other issue I get is "go slows" sometimes on the phone. It doesn't seem to crash, just response times go into the seconds. I switch off and on to soft reset and its fine.
nevil said:
that did not happen to me yet
if you disable background data usage in data sync that will save batt life and lower data usage too.
do not know if that helps at all
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Why should I disable data usage? If i have an app that use data, then I only need to close the app. Please correct me if I´m wrong.
Hey all,
I've had my (Sprint) Hero for a couple weeks now and enjoying being able to mess around with different roms and tweaks but I've noticed something annoying. I've been using task killers more heavily in the past week or two now and it appears that apps will sometimes open up by themselves.
I had originally not noticed it because I've been playing with the phone so much I generally had the apps open a lot from messing around and showing people different things. Lately I've got into the habit of killing tasks. I'll go to pick up my phone and notice my RAM usage is rather high and I find apps running that I haven't opened.
Most commonly I see:
Google Shopper
Sprint Navigation (Decided to just delete it)
Market
Clock (the alarm app appears when I switch to it)
Weather
com.google.vrec (can't remember name... also deleted)
So ... I was wondering if anyone could tell me why these would be opening by themselves.
Thanks
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Hello. sorry for bad English. I have spoken to som people here in Sweden and we have thought bout this probleme long and hard. Dos the phone move on its own as well ? Do you ever hear voices from the phone ? Here in Sweden we thinks you have the poltergheist. Maybe you try phone with a priest - don't underestimate the power of God. I hope this can helps you
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Hey Poorboy,
That's just INSANELY helpful! I'm SO glad you're around ... if it weren't for you, he would never have figured that out.
bhhandley,
I've noticed it as well, seems to be frequently used apps or apps with registered services. I just kill them.
I guess that's not the best solution
Kr,
-Kevin
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Poorboy you do make me laff!
regarding the apps, i might be wrong but are the apps opening on your home screen?? I noticed that if i closed all apps with a task manager app then when i scrolled through the home screen the apps i have on there seem to take up mem again, (like a weather app attached to the clock) aswell as other apps that are designed to be running all the time like wallswitcher, things like foot prints seems to be running if i have used the camra...
maybe im wrong.. but this is what i noticed.
get autostarts from market, it will show you on what event which app will be started. also gives the power to disable automatic app starts.
kendong2 said:
get autostarts from market, it will show you on what event which app will be started. also gives the power to disable automatic app starts.
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+1 Very cool app. Thank you for recommending it.
Found a bunch of the apps wanting to start after a connectivity change. I believe that wifi and mobile network connections turn themselves off after being inactive for awhile and start up again after the phone is brought out of sleep or at least do it periodically which explains what's going on.
Apps are always opening by themselves, often I don't even look at the task manager I'll just use one of the "kill all apps" widgets and it'll tell me that it killed 3 or 4 apps, none of which were apps I opened myself.
CDMA and GSM
Wrong Forum. This is for GSM not CDMA Hero.
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Wrong Forum. This is for GSM not CDMA Hero.
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this is the general hero forum. there is a cdma subforum for cdma related stuff, however general talk about apps or problems with general apps matches the "hero general" section very well from my point of view.
I have Home++ I use the kill all feature on the rocket dock. it then says your free memory is 160mb. which am happy with, and then 5 - 10 minutes later, with my phone just being idle, i click on to see what apps are running and. i have about 15 apps running. from doing nothing.
Not sure why my apps run automatically, also when i turn on my phone, every single app turns on. WTF!!!
It's meant to. That is how android and linux works.
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I have Home++ I use the kill all feature on the rocket dock. it then says your free memory is 160mb. which am happy with, and then 5 - 10 minutes later, with my phone just being idle, i click on to see what apps are running and. i have about 15 apps running. from doing nothing.
Not sure why my apps run automatically, also when i turn on my phone, every single app turns on. WTF!!!
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just let them run. stop killing them.
lifeflayer said:
just let them run. stop killing them.
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Great idea, and let my phone be unusable due to the slowness [thumbs up]
duffy1807 said:
Great idea, and let my phone be unusable due to the slowness [thumbs up]
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thats simply not the way it works, let them run, if the o/s sees there is another program that wants some ram it will clear some by killing lesser priority apps.
I stopped using task killers about 3 weeks ago. My phone runs much quicker now I've stopped killing everything... Let the tech do it's own thing and it works surprisingly well....
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Great idea, and let my phone be unusable due to the slowness [thumbs up]
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have you even tried to use the phone without a task manager? the apps in the background are in a frozen state, which means they are simply cached in the ram so when you restart them they open instantly AND retain the old state. there is absolutely no reason to kill an program unless the program bugged out.
mine runs ok i have this kind of apps called FSFILE EXPLORER in this apps wen i hit the menu you can see task manager then all previous apps that i open it highlighted into green color hit kill selected witch is highlighted then memory increase.... nothing is running on the idle.
unused ram is wasted ram
Ok guys will uninstall my task killer and see how i get on thanks
The advice of not killing aps doesn't really wash when you have apps that cause battery drain. I find that killing apps increases battery life.
alitech said:
The advice of not killing aps doesn't really wash when you have apps that cause battery drain. I find that killing apps increases battery life.
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get rid of those apps and get better ones
The apps are the stock apps that come with the firmware. You cant get rid of them mate.
The apps are the stock apps that come with the firmware. You cant get rid of them mate.
unused ram is wasted ram
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So using more ram doesn't use more battery? ;-)
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So using more ram doesn't use more battery? ;-)
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So when the X10 first got released, everyone was blaming Moxier for being a battery pig regardless if you were using it or not. Are we now saying that isn't true?
That's correct - Moxier doesn't use any juice (not noticeable anyway).. I ran a test with wifi off and data/ mms off over night.. so it was just basically a dumb phone with loads of fancy apps.. it used 2% in about 8 hours...
No start up auditor, no task manager... I am running Helix Launcher.
It's natural to not want apps running in the background. What's the first thing you want to do to optimise your PC? Remove unused startup processes and background tasks. It's more important for a phone which has more limited resources than a PC.
I don't use Moxier Mail, Timescape or PlayNow. But for some reason they all open themselves up in the background every so often.
Iceman, I feel pretty lame for trying to manage the apps so much. Going to try a the same test tonight to see what happens.
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Hi everyone,
this problem is following me in every rom I try!
CM, Stock, 5.1.1, 5.0.1, it does'nt matter, in every rom I face this problem....
you see, music is playing in background and some other apps like Hotspot shield are running in background at the same time... as soon as i open firefox, music player completely shuts off and so does hotspot shield...
in every rom I face this problem so now I'm starting to think maybe its a hardware issue... could it be a hardware issue?
anyone with the same issue?
I have Flyme installed on my phone and its a good rom and I dont want to change it, even if I change it im sure the problem with come to me again in other roms, so help me fix this
Android closes apps when it is low on memory (RAM).
I don't think its related to that, I have plenty of ram when that happens, besides, closing all background apps at once?
and why does this always happen when I open a web browser?
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I don't think its related to that, I have plenty of ram when that happens, besides, closing all background apps at once?
and why does this always happen when I open a web browser?
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I just told you in my previous reply.
Maybe that web browser uses all the memory.
Or does it happen with every web browser?
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I just told you in my previous reply.
Maybe that web browser uses all the memory.
Or does it happen with every web browser?
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I don't have alot of apps running in background, 2GB of RAM and still its not enough for a web browser and a music player beside 5 or 6 other apps that each of 'em need 60 to 70mb of RAM? That's strange
I tried 3 or 4 different web browsers, Chrome, Stock web browser, Firefox, and some other browsers... all the same
This guy also has the same problem:
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http://forums.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-s5/574211-android-silently-killing-my-apps-how-do-i-stop.html
Maybe one of your apps causes the issues. After all, you changed several ROMs (clean wiped I assume) and the only constant would be the user apps you always install/restore after a flash.
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Maybe one of your apps causes the issues. After all, you changed several ROMs (clean wiped I assume) and the only constant would be the user apps you always install/restore after a flash.
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Yes, always clean and wiped install.
Well, I don't use any battery monitoring or task managing app, but good point, let me check my apps again.
Nope, checked again, no suspicious app... non that I think have something to do with this problem
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Nope, checked again, no suspicious app... non that I think have something to do with this problem
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Go one by one and install and uninstall apps, while repeatedly trying to run the ones you stated in your first post. If there is an app causing that problem, just try doing some old fashioned process of elimination.
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Go one by one and install and uninstall apps, while repeatedly trying to run the ones you stated in your first post. If there is an app causing that problem, just try doing some old fashioned process of elimination.
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It sure takes a hell lot of time, but seems like the only way to go!
Will do, and if I found out that an app is causing the problem I would not just gonna go the fashioned way of elimination! I'm Gonna leave some mean mean comments for it's developer too!
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It sure takes a hell lot of time, but seems like the only way to go!
Will do, and if I found out that an app is causing the problem I would not just gonna go the fashioned way of elimination! I'm Gonna leave some mean mean comments for it's developer too!
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Sometimes bad reviews make the world a safer place, good luck!
Hi,
I really don't understand how the doze system works on android marshmallow. I mean, it kills apps that I need, and leaves on apps that I need killed. I have done all the battery optimization exceptions from settings->apps, I have excluded and included in the keep alive after screen lock option in battery manager, nothing is working how it should be.
I want apps like Tasker and Automate It to work when i close the screen, but even if I exclude them from all things that could kill them, they work for only about 2 minutes and then bye bye.
Is there a setting I missed, or maybe an app that keeps them alive, or maybe some root underground terminal emulator magic I can do to fix this issue?
Thanks in advance.
sundaysfantasy said:
Hi,
I really don't understand how the doze system works on android marshmallow. I mean, it kills apps that I need, and leaves on apps that I need killed. I have done all the battery optimization exceptions from settings->apps, I have excluded and included in the keep alive after screen lock option in battery manager, nothing is working how it should be.
I want apps like Tasker and Automate It to work when i close the screen, but even if I exclude them from all things that could kill them, they work for only about 2 minutes and then bye bye.
Is there a setting I missed, or maybe an app that keeps them alive, or maybe some root underground terminal emulator magic I can do to fix this issue?
Thanks in advance.
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It's not Doze that sucks so much, it's EMUI's power management. It's overly aggressive in killing apps.
zgomot said:
It's not Doze that sucks so much, it's EMUI's power management. It's overly aggressive in killing apps.
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You're probably right, even though they fixed this in EMUI 5.0, but I don't like Nougat because it has an annoying bug, so maybe there's a fix to this for MM. I'll try to write to them too.
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You're probably right, even though they fixed this in EMUI 5.0, but I don't like Nougat because it has an annoying bug, so maybe there's a fix to this for MM. I'll try to write to them too.
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What annoying bug do you mean? I find N better than MM in almost every way. And now with B380 battery usage is amazing.
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What annoying bug do you mean? I find N better than MM in almost every way. And now with B380 battery usage is amazing.
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At random times, my screen won't turn on when I unlock it. I can hear the unlock sound, receive phone calls and probably use all other phone functions, but my screen stays black. I have to force-restart the phone in order for the screen to work again. It probably is a problem with my phone, but I'm too lazy to send it to warranty.