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[Q] How do you play Video?

This may sound completely stupid, but how do you play video on your xoom? I mean there isn't even a dedicated video app. How the hell do you release a tablet and expect it to compete with the I pad without a native video player or support for most video formats? I just transferred a couple of avi files that don't show up anywhere because there's no app to play them.

verusevo said:
This may sound completely stupid, but how do you play video on your xoom? I mean there isn't even a dedicated video app. How the hell do you release a tablet and expect it to compete with the I pad without a native video player or support for most video formats? I just transferred a couple of avi files that don't show up anywhere because there's no app to play them.
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See: http://www.gigadroid.com/androidtalk/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=21

verusevo said:
This may sound completely stupid, but how do you play video on your xoom? I mean there isn't even a dedicated video app. How the hell do you release a tablet and expect it to compete with the I pad without a native video player or support for most video formats? I just transferred a couple of avi files that don't show up anywhere because there's no app to play them.
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Theres an icon on your homescreen that says gallery. It plays movies as long as they are supported format. Try rockplayer universal it will play avis

https://market.android.com/details?id=com.tencent.research.drop&feature=search_result
QQplayer works for me too. Multichannel too. i havent tried mkv files yet
edit: it does play MKV files and with subtitles

Great just what I was afraid of. I have almost a 1TB of movies/videos/TV shows. So my only options are to convert them all or use a non tablet android app to play unsupported files. Thanks for the info though guys.

inspiron41 said:
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.tencent.research.drop&feature=search_result
QQplayer works for me too. Multichannel too. i havent tried mkv files yet
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mkv high profile will not work on Xoom with any current player and I tried them all.

Ya i just tried a couple of files i had already converted for my moms ipad. a couple were DVDrips and those played pretty much fine using rocklayer. But one was a converted 1080p music video. The music video played fairly well but there was a noticeable difference in the frame rate from the standard def videos.it wasnt at all choppy but it wasnt as fluid as i would have liked. If this is what im going to have to expect from HD video then im definitely not sold on this tab.

verusevo said:
Ya i just tried a couple of files i had already converted for my moms ipad. a couple were DVDrips and those played pretty much fine using rocklayer. But one was a converted 1080p music video. The music video played fairly well but there was a noticeable difference in the frame rate from the standard def videos.it wasnt at all choppy but it wasnt as fluid as i would have liked. If this is what im going to have to expect from HD video then im definitely not sold on this tab.
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It is certainly not what i expected. Hopefully it can be fixed with an update or app.

i downloaded dvd catalyst 4 online it was 9.99 (normally $20) and has a preset for motorola xoom
just load any dvd into your computer click go and when its done it will have you connect the xoom and transfer it
then click on the gallery app and there it is. the quality is great too

https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/63258/kw/video/p/7901,7906
You can use Handbrake, a free video encoding program. I found that redoing h.264 high profile to h.264 main profile(see the link) and dropping motion estimation method to diamond, Subpixel ME & Mode Decision to 0, and avg bitrate to 4000 kbps makes for a lower encode time(20ish minutes for 1 hour on my i7 920 win 7 64bit). Excellent quality too vs original.

I'm attempting to convert a 720p copy of inception using handbrake right now. (6 hrs estimated time) what a pain in the ass. I set it to the APPLE preset. Which I'm hoping/assuming is what one would use for the ipad. Ill let you guys know how it turns out. If it does work won't be so bad as I can just set a bunch of files to convert in queue while i sleep.

verusevo said:
I'm attempting to convert a 720p copy of inception using handbrake right now. (6 hrs estimated time) what a pain in the ass. I set it to the APPLE preset. Which I'm hoping/assuming is what one would use for the ipad. Ill let you guys know how it turns out. If it does work won't be so bad as I can just set a bunch of files to convert in queue while i sleep.
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Iceytea posted a handbrake preset for Xoom. I am trying it now and it is going much faster. 2 hour 720p movie took me 1 hour estimated with Apple universal preset and with this one 45 minutes. Can't comment on quality yet as it is still converting.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11695846&postcount=50

someone on here said that mkv works on RockPlayer on the Xoom

Neo3D said:
someone on here said that mkv works on RockPlayer on the Xoom
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mkv works with stock player as well just have to convert it to baseline. High profile mkv works with nothing on the Xoom. I tried them all.

verusevo said:
Great just what I was afraid of. I have almost a 1TB of movies/videos/TV shows. So my only options are to convert them all or use a non tablet android app to play unsupported files. Thanks for the info though guys.
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Dude, the SDK was just released this week. There will be a tablet optimized app within a month or so... your video files are not wasted.

Blu ray to Xoom converter now available

http://www.theopenpress.com/index.php?a=press&id=97565
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Have you tried it? does it work?

I'm still waiting for my Xoom. It should be delivered tomorrow.
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38 bucks. lol

They just want one arm and leg, fitting for a xoom app
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It seems a good idea for Xoom. I would to have a try. 38buck is fine to me if it works.

Heelllllllsssss no!!!!! Too much.
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Just tried to rip my blu-ray movies to mp4 in 1080P, and play on my xoom. It works great.

Not to be a sour grape, but FYI this is the typical spam post I've seen in other tablet forums. Read the fine print on "About Company". They'll likely land a few catches, which should be enough for them to perpetuate the spam.

Anyone doing anything esle to rip blurays to their xoom?

I am ripping my own blu rays with Handbrake. Reducing to 720p settings at 2500kbps. Avatar looks great on it. I originally ripped it at 1080p, but I didn't really see any difference and it made the file a lot larger.

I've been using DVDFab with moderate success.

Yes, bluray can play on xoom, but you need convert it to mp4

the dvd catalyst beta has had no problem converting my blurays to 720p. Best $10 I've spent recently.
Going to try the 1080p presets for some hdmi viewing soon.

I've been ripping BluRays using DVDFab as well. Reduced the screen size to 1280X720, FPS between 22-25 and all movies have looked flawless. Audio in Stero @ 96 and raised the volume to 180%.

DVDFab is more expensive than this one as they can both do this job great

There are soo many programs out there, I found Videora that works fine, just set it to iPad and it makes a Goog MP4 file that works fine on my Xoom!

Procinctu said:
I am ripping my own blu rays with Handbrake. Reducing to 720p settings at 2500kbps. Avatar looks great on it. I originally ripped it at 1080p, but I didn't really see any difference and it made the file a lot larger.
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Can Handbrake really rip DVDs and Blurays? I thought it states that it is not a ripper...
EDIT: I use AnyDVD and AVS Video Converter. Unfortunately, it does not support True HD audio tracks yet I also have Cyberlink Media Suite 8 but it has only very basic settings to choose from. I think the key is to use the DivX compatible .mp4 version, not the h264 which is in my experience choppy on the Xoom. But honestly, since I have most movies ripped for my iPod @640x480 I think I'll keep them at that resolution

Using AnyDVD HD and Handbrake and I am ripping blu ray movies I own. No issues so far.
Ripped Serenity, Sector 9, Avatar, Despicable Me. Tried a variety to test it out. Working great.
I actually started putting them on an HP MediaSmart WHS server and they stream great on wifi to the Xoom.
Using tvirsity to stream off of WHS.

>Unfortunately, it does not support True HD audio tracks yet
Most converters allow "pass-through" audio. Monolithic converters aside, True-HD and DTS-HD can be processed by a number of standalone tools, to either their DTS/AC3 core, or be converted to AAC/MP3.
>I think the key is to use the DivX compatible .mp4 version, not the h264 which is in my experience choppy on the Xoom.
DivX now uses H.264 in MKV/MP4 container; it's called DivX Plus. It likely retains the old DivX (H.263) codec for backward compatibility. In other words, "DivX" the brand no longer equates to DivX the codec. Anyway, when people encode with DivX, 90% of the time they aren't using DivX, but XviD, which is the open-source, and superior, version.
You are probably using either H.264 baseline or main profile, which is simpler to decode, and (for now) works better on the Xoom.
>Using AnyDVD HD and Handbrake and I am ripping blu ray movies I own. No issues so far.
The latest HandBrake 0.9.5 doesn't support Bluray PGS subtitles, and I haven't seen indication that the nightly builds fix this. As long as you don't need subs, HB is OK for BD rips.

[Q] lack of video codecs??

i know there is a converter and some people having problems with mkv and i know about h.264 and im starting use my atrix as multimedia i watch some movies in "dvdrip" i doubt since seems quality it lower, i try with an anime dvdrip .mp4 and i cant watch so im wondering wich software i can use to convert in the desire format without lose quality. i have any dvd converter.
so not sure how to convert and what settings. this start annoy me since my n1 play several formats. sorry if this was covered but i didnt find the right solution.
thanks a lot

I would appreciate an answer to this as well.
I have found that the Affix will play most of the .avi movies that I download. I haven't had any luck with the few mp4 or mvk files I've tried.
If anyone knows how to convert any format to something the Atrix can play, please let us know..
Thanks!!
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Instead of converting just install a player that can decode all of these files. There are a couple of good ones out there. I've read good things about Meridian and VPlayer.

I try rock player no luck ,i download from youtube the google io in hd 60 fps 1280x720 and .mp4 and surprise I can't play.
My one year old nexus one do fine stupid motorola y try convert with any dvd and was awful the video was so fast not sync with sound,i guess because 60 fps and max van convert its 30 fps any more tips? Thanks
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zen kun said:
i know there is a converter and some people having problems with mkv and i know about h.264 and im starting use my atrix as multimedia i watch some movies in "dvdrip" i doubt since seems quality it lower, i try with an anime dvdrip .mp4 and i cant watch so im wondering wich software i can use to convert in the desire format without lose quality. i have any dvd converter.
so not sure how to convert and what settings. this start annoy me since my n1 play several formats. sorry if this was covered but i didnt find the right solution.
thanks a lot
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Use Handbrake and follow this guide for converting.. I've used it to convert anime as well.. works great for me...
http://www.knowyourcell.com/motorol...d_transfer_them_to_the_motorola_atrix_4g.html

jpinoy said:
Use Handbrake and follow this guide for converting.. I've used it to convert anime as well.. works great for me...
http://www.knowyourcell.com/motorol...d_transfer_them_to_the_motorola_atrix_4g.html
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thanks i will give a shoot, this reduces the HQ videos???

zen kun said:
thanks i will give a shoot, this reduces the HQ videos???
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None that I've seen. Plus, even with a smaller bitrate, the resolution and density of the qHD on the Atrix makes up for it... movies look great

jpinoy said:
None that I've seen. Plus, even with a smaller bitrate, the resolution and density of the qHD on the Atrix makes up for it... movies look great
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thanks, im pretending use multimedia mode in my TV so will be more to watch on my 42" tv than atrix xD i will try it thanks

The issue is not codecs, it's Tegra 2 cannot handle high profile HD decoding (at least at the moment)
If you stick to Main profile and no B-frames you will likely be ok. Which also means you are likely having to re-encode your video.
More info here
Handbrake preset here

qqplayer works

If you add the video with motorola media link (think that's what its called) it will convert it to play on your phone.
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I'm actually hoping VLC comes out soon for Android... would be sweet..
http://gigaom.com/video/vlc-for-android-demo-beta/

zen kun said:
I try rock player no luck ,i download from youtube the google io in hd 60 fps 1280x720 and .mp4 and surprise I can't play.
My one year old nexus one do fine stupid motorola y try convert with any dvd and was awful the video was so fast not sync with sound,i guess because 60 fps and max van convert its 30 fps any more tips? Thanks
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That Sucks so much Fail in the Atrix reason mines in the Box my G2X runs Dvix 1080p out the Box like a champ its a shame the Atrix can't
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nucentury08 said:
That Sucks so much Fail in the Atrix reason mines in the Box my G2X runs Dvix 1080p out the Box like a champ its a shame the Atrix can't
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Yeah but do u have a Biometrics finger sensor ? Lol
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sdlopez83 said:
Yeah but do u have a Biometrics finger sensor ? Lol
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LOL xD
i try handbrake not sure how to make 1280*720 playable on atrix, i want my atrix play because i can play in multimedia dock si i can watch movies in HD on my tv its useless have a multimedia app if you cant use =X and i cant use vlplayer or something in multimedia mode =X so any suggestion about settings to hanbrake and keep 720 quality??

jpinoy said:
Use Handbrake and follow this guide for converting.. I've used it to convert anime as well.. works great for me...
http://www.knowyourcell.com/motorol...d_transfer_them_to_the_motorola_atrix_4g.html
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Thanks for the link. Ill take a look at it and try to convert my stuff.
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Thanks for the links as well!
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If you just want to play files on your phone, try Moboplayer. I use it to watch XVIDs and it works perfectly. It is also free so worth a try.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.clov4r.android.nil&feature=search_result
Taken from their AM page:
Enjoy Your Video. The best video player on Android! Watch any of your videos on a phone without conversion, anytime and anywhere. We feature the best playback experience and quality.
Our video player supports:
All video formats (need to choose "software decoding" mode in most cases)
Popular subtitle formats such as SRT, ASS, and SAA
Subtitles built in MKV, MPV, MOV, and others
Multi-audio streams and multi-subtitles
Playlists and continuous play on same type files
Videos streamed through HTTP, RTSP protocols
Media libraries and sort videos by type
Thumbnail displays of videos

strange dude, my atrix plays all formats, i think that have one, that only comes audio, but this video was 1080p(HD) and i dont made even 1 update in my atrix

it's not that simple.
just because you can play one individual 720p h.264 file doesn't mean you can play them all. there are different profiles / bit rates etc.
For h.264 Tegra 2 supports main profile but not high profile. Xoom owners have done all kinds of tests on this. To date no video player has been able to overcome this.

So.. 1080p looks great but..

Who is actually Gunna download movies that take about 6 gigs of space and the download time is forever, is there another way to watch 1080p besides small youtube clips. The 1080p really looks great!
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Well first of all, you're wasting your time on 1080p. You want 720p. Second of all, it doesn't take too long to copy files over and you can even split them up using something like virtualdub.

Ok thanks thought it supported 1080p
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juanzr1 said:
Ok thanks thought it supported 1080p
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The screen resolution is only 1280x720p. So 720p video will look the best on it.

Yes downloading some 720p movies right now.!
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Checkout BubbleUPnP - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1118891 - includes a local renderer & acts as a control point for DLNA/UPnP

juanzr1 said:
Who is actually Gunna download movies that take about 6 gigs of space and the download time is forever, is there another way to watch 1080p besides small youtube clips. The 1080p really looks great!
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1080p MKV movies are a bout 1GB (2hrs long)
720 are 500Mb

jeandujardin01 said:
1080p MKV movies are a bout 1GB (2hrs long)
720 are 500Mb
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That is still quite compressed.... Regular 1080p mkv's are anywhere from 10gb to nearly 50gb.
A 6gb 1080p rip is still probably very good quality.

jeandujardin01 said:
1080p MKV movies are a bout 1GB (2hrs long)
720 are 500Mb
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Yeah right.. A 45 minute 720p TV show is just over 1GB, a 720p bluray movie comes out to about 2 - 4GB, 1080p is double that.
Even DVD rips of full length movies are bigger than 500mb if you want quality.

I'm not sure if this is on topics, but I download 720p anime mkv(most common format) and it's playback is very choppy on galaxy tab, and I've tried stock video player, mvideoplayer, and mobo player. I have to spent time re encode those files with handbrake or ripbot to make it plays properly. but the exact same file play fine on my galaxy s phone without any conversion.
anyone know what's the problem?and ideas how I can fix it? the goal is to just copy my downloaded anime to galaxy tab and play it smoothly, not spending extra time to re-encode it again.

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I'm not sure if this is on topics, but I download 720p anime mkv(most common format) and it's playback is very choppy on galaxy tab, and I've tried stock video player, mvideoplayer, and mobo player. I have to spent time re encode those files with handbrake or ripbot to make it plays properly. but the exact same file play fine on my galaxy s phone without any conversion.
anyone know what's the problem?and ideas how I can fix it? the goal is to just copy my downloaded anime to galaxy tab and play it smoothly, not spending extra time to re-encode it again.
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Your best option is to convert it. Freemake is my favorite. It even lets you effortlessly hardcode those subs.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1140403

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Your best option is to convert it. Freemake is my favorite. It even lets you effortlessly hardcode those subs.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1140403
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yeah, I spent some time reading several topics and the consensus seems that this is Tegra 2 hardware problem? so there's no hope for new firmware update to suddenly make it playable smoothly without converting?

Recode Settings?

Hello everyone,
I got a 64GB Acer Iconia Tab A500 about two weeks ago. I am looking to recode my bluray discs to watch on my tablet. I have looked over the forums and haven't found much in terms of settings. I recode using Handbrake, but every video I recode ends up being choppy and lagging on the tablet. I am getting the feeling that the CPU is lagging behind when playing the videos.
I have tried MX Video Player, Mobo and Dice and ask the will yield the same result with the same video.
I am running it full stock 3.2.1, but could root if need be.
Thanks in advance!
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Have you tried the settings that WereCatf gives in
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1184002 ?
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jlary said:
Have you tried the settings that WereCatf gives in
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1184002 ?
Jeff
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I have not. I will try them once I get home. Thanks!
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Okay, so I recoded the first video and it ended up as an MP4 and in Both MX Video Player and Mobo they both said that the video cannot be played. As if it was an incompatible format.. I thought that was what MX and Mobo were for!
I tried using the 720p High Profile, I'm recoding one right now using baseline, but I have no clue what the difference is between the two.

After not having much luck using Handbrake to re-encode for any device (including the A500), I just threw $10 at the problem and bought DVD Catalyst. I use it to convert movies for every device in my family (Acer A500, Nook Tablet, Nook Color x4, original iPad, iPad2, HTC EVO 4G, and even a first step in re-encoding for Nintendo DSi XL), and it works like a charm. The developer hangs around XDA, too, so there's excellent on-going support for the product.
Hope this helps.

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After not having much luck using Handbrake to re-encode for any device (including the A500), I just threw $10 at the problem and bought DVD Catalyst. I use it to convert movies for every device in my family (Acer A500, Nook Tablet, Nook Color x4, original iPad, iPad2, HTC EVO 4G, and even a first step in re-encoding for Nintendo DSi XL), and it works like a charm. The developer hangs around XDA, too, so there's excellent on-going support for the product.
Hope this helps.
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I've actually gotten some success with one of the presets from WereCatf. I was able to get Planet Earth to look pretty and not stutter on my tablet!
I ended up using 720p Baseline for anyone else who's wondering.
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