Recommended way/ROM to revert to a stock Sense build? - myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi
I recently switched my rate plan and yesterday the new billing cycle started but now the data won't work. I've been on the phone with about 7 T-Mobile reps and none have been able to fix it. So I'd like to just go to the T-Mobile store, hand them my phone, and just let them fix it.
However, I'm running CM7 Stable and if they see that, of course they'll say that's the cause and blame it on that. So I'd like to flash a Sense build. What's the easiest route I can take to get back to a Sense build without losing root or S=OFF? (ie ROM recommendation -- there are just so many!)
I see all the ROMs here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=866175
Which one would be the best option for a quick flash (using CWR 3.0.0.0) so that I can take it to the T-Mobile store? (And then restore CM7 afterwards)
Thank you
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You can just restore from your stock Nandroid, provided you have one (which you should).
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ELBdelorean said:
You can just restore from your stock Nandroid, provided you have one (which you should).
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I don't. But I want a clean build anyway.
Can anyone answer the question above?

Paul22000 said:
I don't. But I want a clean build anyway.
Can anyone answer the question above?
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Ya I will answer it for you but the guy above me already answered it for the most part. You can just restore a stock nandroid. Tiger13 has a post of a nandroid you can use in the dev section. It is also in the Resource bible. You can also pick one of the stock type of roms in the dev section such as Orange Glacier or Royal Glacier (Allthough it looks slightly different than stock)
Oh, and not sure why you would ask what one is easier to flash. They are all the same when it comes to that. You need to download and flash it. None are easier or harder than the other. My suggestion is to restore a nandroid and see if you data comes back. Me thinks it might.
And BTW you have severel guides in your sig I noticed. Maybe you should think about making one on following directions and smart practices like making a stock nandroid after you root your device.

TrueBlue_Drew said:
Ya I will answer it for you but the guy above me already answered it for the most part. You can just restore a stock nandroid. Tiger13 has a post of a nandroid you can use in the dev section. It is also in the Resource bible. You can also pick one of the stock type of roms in the dev section such as Orange Glacier or Royal Glacier (Allthough it looks slightly different than stock)
Oh, and not sure why you would ask what one is easier to flash. They are all the same when it comes to that. You need to download and flash it. None are easier or harder than the other. My suggestion is to restore a nandroid and see if you data comes back. Me thinks it might.
And BTW you have severel guides in your sig I noticed. Maybe you should think about making one on following directions and smart practices like making a stock nandroid after you root your device.
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Ah, thanks. I clicked on Tiger's thread for the stock nandroid in that huge list of links and read through it. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=845756 Looks good, I'll try that one. That's exactly the type of help I was looking for, just a pointer in the right direction, thanks. The guy above just worded it poorly.
Yeah, it was hard trying to write a title that captured what I actually wanted to say. But I didn't mean "Which is the easiest to flash?" but rather "Which ROM should I use to get back to a rooted sense build (so I can reflash CM7 after T-Mobile fixes it)?"
(In other words, what is the easiest method of CM7 -> Stock Sense but keep Root while at the T-Mobile store -> back to CM7 afterwards.)
I was thinking of making some guides but to be honest, this isn't my phone; it's my GF's I wouldn't feel right making guides for a phone that I don't have access to 24/7.
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Paul22000 said:
Ah, thanks. I clicked on Tiger's thread for the stock nandroid in that huge list of links and read through it. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=845756 Looks good, I'll try that one. That's exactly the type of help I was looking for, just a pointer in the right direction, thanks. The guy above just worded it poorly.
Yeah, it was hard trying to write a title that captured what I actually wanted to say. But I didn't mean "Which is the easiest to flash?" but rather "Which ROM should I use to get back to a rooted sense build (so I can reflash CM7 after T-Mobile fixes it)?"
(In other words, what is the easiest method of CM7 -> Stock Sense but keep Root while at the T-Mobile store -> back to CM7 afterwards.)
I was thinking of making some guides but to be honest, this isn't my phone; it's my GF's I wouldn't feel right making guides for a phone that I don't have access to 24/7.
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No prob and please dont think I am busting your balls or anything. I am not sure why 2.5.1.2 recovery is needed to flash the nandroid in tigers thread, but a nandroid like that will give you the stock look for sure. Most all the other roms have at least a few small visual tweaks.

TrueBlue_Drew said:
No prob and please dont think I am busting your balls or anything. I am not sure why 2.5.1.2 recovery is needed to flash the nandroid in tigers thread, but a nandroid like that will give you the stock look for sure. Most all the other roms have at least a few small visual tweaks.
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Ah crap, ok, didn't realize 2.5.1.2 was required. Which ROM is the closest to stock then that still preserves root? The reason I ask is because there are 50 ROMs, but all have tweaks. I don't want to be at the T-Mobile store and have some tweak pop-up and then they say "hey wait a minute, did you hack your phone, get outta here!" etc.
Also, as we've found out, not all of them are compatible with CWR 3.0.0.0. So that's why I was asking. If someone knows a quick ROM that I can flash, that would be really helpful

couldnt i just take the [ROM]Glacier_TMOUS_1.17.531.2_Radio_12.28b.60.140e_26.0 3.02.26_M_release, posted by football, and throw it in the kitchen and add root permissions and super user and then he have everything he wants? if so i can do it as i have it already downloaded and in the kitchen so any devs, just let me know if my theory is correct and i will get it out there for him...

Easiest way is to make sure you got the latest clockwork(try Rom Manager and see if you got the latest clockwork), then boot into recovery, make a nandroid backup of your current setup. get the PD15IMG file from the Dev forum thread, boot into hboot and flash the stock image from there. that will make the phone stock except S-off will stick. Once done with t-mo, re-root with visionary(temp, then permanent), reboot a couple times and make sure root sticks and s-off is still there, go into recovery, wipe everything except the SDCARD and restore the nandroid backup, everything will be there from before. I've rooted/unrooted so many times lately that the process is not even hard anymore.

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Noob question...what is the deal with the ROMS?

ok, totally new to the HD2 thing, and the ROM thing. i am a former blackberry guy, so i was always nuking and loading on new OS's, and i'm sure once i get the hang of this, it'll makde sense. i've seen the guide on how to do it, but what is the benefit of different ROMS? is that like a modded version of the OS to play with? can you restore all your contact/calendar info to it once your done?
sorry about the "noob-ness" of this question, but once you tell me, i'll run with it
thanks
Yes a ROM is basically a users take on what they would like the original OS to look/perform like. We also get updated packages from Microsoft thanks to some great people on these forums that keep us on the cutting edge of what's going on.
Basically, you unlock you phone and can flash ROM's whenever you want. You can always back up all your data and restore it all after a flash. You can also re-flash back to the original stock ROM your phone came with and restore the same info and never touch it again. Your prerogative.
mgioia2 said:
Yes a ROM is basically a users take on what they would like the original OS to look/perform like. We also get updated packages from Microsoft thanks to some great people on these forums that keep us on the cutting edge of what's going on.
Basically, you unlock you phone and can flash ROM's whenever you want. You can always back up all your data and restore it all after a flash. You can also re-flash back to the original stock ROM your phone came with and restore the same info and never touch it again. Your prerogative.
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so the phone has to be unlocked before you can start flashing and loading?
ryan7977 said:
so the phone has to be unlocked before you can start flashing and loading?
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Not a carrier unlock.
Yes, top of the page you will see the HSPL unlocker Leo 1024 thread...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653614
This is if you own a T-Mobile USA version HD2!
From what I have seen, the custom Roms usually are faster and have more add-ons than the stock software does. At least in the case of Energyroms
anyone have a suggested first rom for a first time noob with a tmo hd2?
Dutty's...it's a very basic/clean ROM and it works very well...
http://htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1732
i honestly feel stupid looking at the instructions for this, and i am a real technical guy too. is there a really really dulled down instruction set for this somewhere? like, "hold the hand of a baby" easy?
ryan7977 said:
i honestly feel stupid looking at the instructions for this, and i am a real technical guy too. is there a really really dulled down instruction set for this somewhere? like, "hold the hand of a baby" easy?
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lol, I'm in the same boat! This is my first steps into the realm of WinMo. I've successfully loaded the Energy rom (pretty sweet too!) and just loaded the Kumar Rom last night. I really like the Kumar, it looks pretty close to stock and is really fast (plus I think I'm getting way better battery life with it).
The guide at the top of the page does a great job at explaining how to flash a rom imo, Except when it comes to backing up the data.
I (and you as well) would definitely benefit from a "Hand Holding" through backing up all the data and using sashimi or xda_uc to restore it.
I've tried both and I still don't quite get it. I just want to be able to restore my email accounts, my quick launch links, install the programs I want, and setup my facebook. I really wanna try Miri, it looks great! But I want to back up everything first.
Where are some good backing up step by step tutorials? So I don't skip/forget anything?
Thanks!
p.s. sorry if I hijacked your thread. I think you'll benefit from it greatly thou
I'm also gonna have to jump on the bandwagon and say I need my hand held.
I thought I was pretty technical but apparently not enough. ^^;;
Thanks for any help provided! =D
Actually found the installation process to be extremely easy. =D Just follow the instructions, the onboard menus will explain the rest.
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Dutty's...it's a very basic/clean ROM and it works very well...
http://htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1732
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ok, but here is my thing. i just looked at dutty's, and it doesn't look any different from the stock. am i missing something?
That's the point, it is very close to stock. The performance is much better than stock though. You'll notice the more crap people start dumping in ROM's the worse they work. That's why i suggest using one that is close to stock so you don't have to worry about trouble shooting problems.
Ryan and Joe,
The instructions are pretty easy, but its the concept that bugged me at first. Keep this in mind and maybe it'll help you:
1) Our phones have the Firmware (OS) locked out so we can't load our own custom one. Therefore, we have to flash the HSPL to allow custom firmwares (ROMS). Once you flash the HSPL, you should be good to go with trying out all the compatible ROMS.
2) When you decided on a ROM (Energy for me), download the version you want. NRG has two versions with multiple variants of those versions. (I chose 23549 Cookie). Download that. There will be two files, one is an exe.
3) Whether you are flashing your HSPL or a ROM, ActiveSync MUST SEE YOUR PHONE. If it doesn't or if you have problems, try different USB ports. I know I had issues when using a hub.
4) Your phone's data will be wiped each time you flash. There are some alternatives (like putting cabs in the UC folder or using Sashimi).
PM me if you need some hand-holding. I don't mind. Everybody needs to start somewhere.
ok, well i did the first step fairly easy. now i'll explore flashing a new rom, and see how that goes....
here goes nothin
so is there any software or tutorial on backing up the phone's data ( like contacts,messages,..etc) before flashing any ROMs?
and if there is one...then how do i use it after flashing the ROMs?
If you're just worried about contacts/calender/texts then use Microsoft Myphone. Just download the program, sign in, and sync what you want. Then after you flash you install the program, sign in, and sync your info right back.
Hit me on gtalk...school's in session. It's easier than it looks JB. I'll help you if you havin' trouble. YEEEE!!
PLEASE MAKE SURE the ROM you're flashing is compatible with the US 1024MB version of the HD2!!
Also, some radio ROMs can brick your device if you don't use the correct version, so I suggest noobs don't flash their radio versions.
Some ROMs come with a RADIO flash and some don't (most don't) so make sure you read the ROM description carefully to MAKE SURE it explicitedly says it's compatible with the U.S. version of the HD2 - and if it doesn't.. DON'T FLASH, don't take the risk.

[Q] Cannot root phone due to newer version of Hboot (.86)

Awhile ago i tried rooting my phone with a tutorial from The Unlockr and it went well except i could get S to turn off and it would not perma root. Does anyone know of a tutorial for the newest version of Hboot that can root the phone? I found a tutorial that works with the G2 and Desire Z without ADB but i am not sure if it will work with the Mytouch 4g.
Sorry if this is in the wrong section and thanks in advance.
I see that you're new here. Please use the search function, this has been discussed a thousand times before.
HBoot 0.86.0000 is the bootloader that comes shipped with all Glaciers. It is NOT new and DOES NOT prevent you from rooting. The engineering bootloader (0.85.2007) is obtained either by flashing it manually or by using the root.sh method to root your phone, such as by following the instructions on theunlockr.com. If you ask most people, they'll recommend using the gfree method that is stickied in the development subforum for this device.
Well when i tried to root my phone the Hboot version in the tutorial was .84 and i realized that after i tried it again because i made a mistake but i did get it rooted but S was not turned off when it should have been and when i rebooted the phone was not rooted anymore and it ran terribly slow. Is there a way to sort of create an image of my phone so if anything goes wrong i just load it and my phone goes back to the way it was with all of the apps and such?
doat said:
Well when i tried to root my phone the Hboot version in the tutorial was .84 and i realized that after i tried it again because i made a mistake but i did get it rooted but S was not turned off when it should have been and when i rebooted the phone was not rooted anymore and it ran terribly slow. Is there a way to sort of create an image of my phone so if anything goes wrong i just load it and my phone goes back to the way it was with all of the apps and such?
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Not until you're rooted and have installed a custom recovery. Then you can make a Nandroid backup.
TeeJay3800 said:
Not until you're rooted and have installed a custom recovery. Then you can make a Nandroid backup.
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and with the Nandroid backup i can restore my phone to exactly the way it was before the root or to a point where i can unroot the phone?
doat said:
and with the Nandroid backup i can restore my phone to exactly the way it was before the root or to a point where i can unroot the phone?
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The backup will allow you to return your phone to stock state in every way except for root. You'll have follow a separate procedure to unroot your phone.
TeeJay3800 said:
The backup will allow you to return your phone to stock state in every way except for root. You'll have follow a separate procedure to unroot your phone.
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fantastic, can someone please link me to a tutorial that will work for me? Also what ROM would you guys suggest? I am looking to keep the phone's functions but I want something that will make the phone faster.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=924923
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=863899
Give those a read-through. I've never done them myself, but I'm pretty sure you don't use a backup to unroot and bring back to stock.
doat said:
fantastic, can someone please link me to a tutorial that will work for me? Also what ROM would you guys suggest? I am looking to keep the phone's functions but I want something that will make the phone faster.
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Royalglacier should work if you want sense or cyanogen if you want gingerbread or royalginger. Also what method of rooting did you use?
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doat said:
Also what ROM would you guys suggest? I am looking to keep the phone's functions but I want something that will make the phone faster.
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Do you want Sense or the vanilla Android look?
TeeJay3800 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=924923
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=863899
Give those a read-through. I've never done them myself, but I'm pretty sure you don't use a backup to unroot and bring back to stock.
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There's the stock nandroid listed in development. Not sure if it will unroot though. But if you want to just restore everything (and unroot) copy the PD15IMG.ZIP to your SD and boot into bootloader
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Nicgraner said:
Royalglacier should work if you want sense or cyanogen if you want gingerbread or royalginger. Also what method of rooting did you use?
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I cannot post links yet but it involved the Terminal Emulator Method
3a. Start terminal emulator up on your device.(I prefer this method b/c you can see the output.)
a. type "su" + enter to gain root privileges.
b. Type "cd /sdcard/root" + enter.
c. Type "sh root.sh" + enter.
d. Follow the on screen prompts.
Which is best Gingerbread, royalginger, or sense? I read that gingerbread is great.
TeeJay3800 said:
Do you want Sense or the vanilla Android look?
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Can you show me both? I am fairly new to the smartphone world lol.
doat said:
Which is best Gingerbread, royalginger, or sense? I read that gingerbread is great.
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You're confusing terms. Gingerbread is just Google's code name for Android 2.3. RoyalGinger is a specific Gingerbread-based ROM. Sense is another type of ROM (my personal favorite because the UI is so attractive). The best Sense ROM in my opinion is in my sig.
doat said:
Can you show me both? I am fairly new to the smartphone world lol.
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Just go a Google Image or YouTube seach for HTC Sense, and check out what the UI looks like. The other UI is the standard Android look that ROMs like CM7 and RoyalGinger have.
TeeJay3800 said:
You're confusing terms. Gingerbread is just Google's code name for Android 2.3. RoyalGinger is a specific Gingerbread-based ROM. Sense is another type of ROM (my personal favorite because the UI is so attractive). The best Sense ROM in my opinion is in my sig.
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I figured the Ginger roms were similar since they are both called Ginger lol. Well as i said i am looking to keep the phone's functions but just make it faster with a light rom or something like that.
I just checked out both interfaces and I like the Android UI better than sense, especially the new droid UI.
doat said:
fantastic, can someone please link me to a tutorial that will work for me? Also what ROM would you guys suggest? I am looking to keep the phone's functions but I want something that will make the phone faster.
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Go with RoyalGlacier to keep the phone fully functional and hassel free. Its a faster version of stock. Evil's Desire HD rom is also a good choice for a pure sense experience. Everything works on both rom's.
Lakeshow423 said:
Go with RoyalGlacier to keep the phone fully functional and hassel free. Its a faster version of stock. Evil's Desire HD rom is also a good choice for a pure sense experience. Everything works on both rom's.
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Awesome that is exactly what i want, pretty much the same thing as stock but faster. Now i just need to find a tutorial that will work with my phone and back it up. Is it difficult to install ROMs for a noob? Also how is the battery life on RoyalGlacier?
doat said:
Awesome that is exactly what i want, pretty much the same thing as stock but faster. Now i just need to find a tutorial that will work with my phone and back it up. Is it difficult to install ROMs for a noob? Also how is the battery life on RoyalGlacier?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858021 read this tutorial. The second part is the instructions on how to flash. There is a YouTube video made by mackster also. Read carefully then make a backup (nandroid) before anything. Happy flashing!

G2 Gingerbread ROM leaked?

Phandroid is reporting the official G2 gingerbread ROM has been leaked, anyone been brave enough to try it out?
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Um it's in the development thread. Did you look?
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Been out yesterday posted by football and yes it gave my soft brick a revival!!
david279 said:
Um it's in the development thread. Did you look?
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Just saw that thread ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1074852 ). I wasn't quite sure why a final T-mo rom would be in the development forum, seems a little counter intuitive? I guess the dev forum really means the rom forum. anyway, thanks guys.
izzelsizzel said:
Just saw that thread ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1074852 ). I wasn't quite sure why a final T-mo rom would be in the development forum, seems a little counter intuitive? I guess the dev forum really means the rom forum. anyway, thanks guys.
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step back and think about it.....
wouldnt you want a rom dev to get their hands on it to work their magic?
izzelsizzel said:
guess the dev forum really means the rom forum. anyway, thanks guys.
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Its got a lot more than just ROMs, but also kernels, radios, guides, and other tools. Some stuff are custom or modded, some are stock tools that developers and others will find useful.
Please help -- how to flash this new stock gingerbread rom to a rooted g2
I have a rooted G2 running CM7, but the gps is totally dead. I'm too much of a noob to flash a new radio, which I think would do the trick. Flashing this stock gingerbread rom seems like the perfect solution because it includes an updated radio and i am just sure it will fix the gps problem.
I bought the phone rooted and I know how to flash new rooted roms through clockwork (so easy), but I have absolutely no idea how to flash a rom like this that updates everything.
I'm sure this question has been asked here before, but can someone just point me to a step-by-step instructions about how to flash this particular stock gingerbread rom to a g2 that is rooted and has clockwork installed?
Thanks~! This is my first post.
sship said:
I have a rooted G2 running CM7, but the gps is totally dead. I'm too much of a noob to flash a new radio, which I think would do the trick. Flashing this stock gingerbread rom seems like the perfect solution because it includes an updated radio and i am just sure it will fix the gps problem.
I bought the phone rooted and I know how to flash new rooted roms through clockwork (so easy), but I have absolutely no idea how to flash a rom like this that updates everything.
I'm sure this question has been asked here before, but can someone just point me to a step-by-step instructions about how to flash this particular stock gingerbread rom to a g2 that is rooted and has clockwork installed?
Thanks~! This is my first post.
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Flashing a radio is easy. Just follow the steps in the radio thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=970809
I know the second method (fastboot and radio.img files) is supposed to be safer. But that looks like it might be over your head, and you need the Eng Hboot to do it.
Flashing a ROM is easy, too. Just move the file to your SD card, and flash from ROM Manager. You will see an option "Install ROM from SD Card". Browse to the file, and the rest is the same as if you downloaded the ROM using ROM Manager.
Thanks, but a few more questions . . .
redpoint73 said:
Flashing a ROM is easy, too. Just move the file to your SD card, and flash from ROM Manager. You will see an option "Install ROM from SD Card". Browse to the file, and the rest is the same as if you downloaded the ROM using ROM Manager.
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Thanks for the reply! I think you are underestimating how new I am to this, though. My question is really this: does it matter, when flashing the new gingerbread rom for g2 that just came out, that the rom is not just a rom, but also a radio and everything else? it is titled in the "PC10IMG" form, which seems to me, from reading other threads, to be a special thing.
[full title: PC10IMG_Vision_Gingerbread_S_TMOUS_2.13.531.8_Radio_12.52.60.25_26.08.04.30_M3_release_188635_signed]
also, would you recommend that i wipe stuff before flashing? when the person who flashed my phone with me last time did it, he wiped dalvik cache and two others (can't remember which, or where he found them in recovery), and user data as well. but if you go to do it within clockwork, it doesn't ask you to do that, does it? again, i'm sure there is a thread about this somewhere.
sorry sorry to be so new to this! and thanks a ton for the help.
sship said:
Thanks for the reply! I think you are underestimating how new I am to this, though. My question is really this: does it matter, when flashing the new gingerbread rom for g2 that just came out, that the rom is not just a rom, but also a radio and everything else? it is titled in the "PC10IMG" form, which seems to me, from reading other threads, to be a special thing.
[full title: PC10IMG_Vision_Gingerbread_S_TMOUS_2.13.531.8_Radio_12.52.60.25_26.08.04.30_M3_release_188635_signed]
also, would you recommend that i wipe stuff before flashing? when the person who flashed my phone with me last time did it, he wiped dalvik cache and two others (can't remember which, or where he found them in recovery), and user data as well. but if you go to do it within clockwork, it doesn't ask you to do that, does it? again, i'm sure there is a thread about this somewhere.
sorry sorry to be so new to this! and thanks a ton for the help.
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well, it's a bit complicate.
supposedly the rom will return your phone to a totally stock state, which will give you the new radio etc, but you will not have root - this was already confirmed. One other forum member mentioned that he flashed the rom and did not loose S-OFF, which is a controversy...
update: lol, dude having CM on your phone means you already have clockwork installed. you just need the /system part of the leak and it's available here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1074852
Really all he needs to do is run vision efs wipe. This been gone over a million times. CM + gps broke = needing efs wipe. No need to get into radios and all that just yet.
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you can solve your gps issues by following two basics:
1. match libs in /system/libs with your radio version,
2. wipe two partitions like it is explained here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1028405
You don't need the new rom, though - it still has the 2 muted seconds when receiving an incoming call - for me that is the no go.
sship said:
Thanks for the reply! I think you are underestimating how new I am to this, though. My question is really this: does it matter, when flashing the new gingerbread rom for g2 that just came out, that the rom is not just a rom, but also a radio and everything else? it is titled in the "PC10IMG" form, which seems to me, from reading other threads, to be a special thing.
[full title: PC10IMG_Vision_Gingerbread_S_TMOUS_2.13.531.8_Radio_12.52.60.25_26.08.04.30_M3_release_188635_signed]
also, would you recommend that i wipe stuff before flashing? when the person who flashed my phone with me last time did it, he wiped dalvik cache and two others (can't remember which, or where he found them in recovery), and user data as well. but if you go to do it within clockwork, it doesn't ask you to do that, does it? again, i'm sure there is a thread about this somewhere.
sorry sorry to be so new to this! and thanks a ton for the help.
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I thought you were talking about the version of the leak that is mentioned in the last post (#10) and also mentioned above in post #4, which is pre-rooted. Thats the one you want. Flash from ROM Manager.
If you are talking about flashing this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1074391
This is the official ROM, and as stated in the previous post, you will lose root. So you probably want to avoid this.
PC10IMG.ZIP files are flashable from Hboot (CWM not required). But since you have Clockwork, I believe you can flash any ROM or patch, as long as its a ZIP file. Its safer to flash from CWM anyway, so avoid Hboot for flashing ROMs.
Not positive, but I think you can keep your data since you are going between similar ROMs (Gingerbread, non-Sense). Wiping dalvik and cache are advisable. Not doing so when switching ROMs can lead to random bugs, and there is no real reason to not wipe them. You can wipe dalvik and cache in recovery. If you want to wipe data, you can also do that in recovery, under "advanced". But you will lose all your user data.
If you flash from ROM Manager, it will ask if you want to wipe. But I've never been clear on what all exactly is wiped (dalvik, cache, data). It might be all 3 of those.
Sorry, I've just stated a bunch of things I'm not completely sure about. So hopefully somebody else can confirm these.
The good news is, do a backup of your current ROM in ROM Manager before you flash anything, and if you screw up anything, you can just go into recovery and load your backup.
please help -- do not want to brick
petarpLab said:
well, it's a bit complicate.
supposedly the rom will return your phone to a totally stock state, which will give you the new radio etc, but you will not have root - this was already confirmed. One other forum member mentioned that he flashed the rom and did not loose S-OFF, which is a controversy...
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I actually would prefer this to flashing a version of this rom that someone else has extracted/altered, however little. My fear is two things:
1 -- Will it brick my phone to flash a PCIMG file? (see here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=838484)
2 -- what do I have to do differently to flash a PCIMG file other than what I normally would do in clockwork to flash another rom (for example a CM rom)
THANKS!
xsteven77x said:
Really all he needs to do is run vision efs wipe. This been gone over a million times. CM + gps broke = needing efs wipe. No need to get into radios and all that just yet.
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I have tried that, to no avail. I see others who have tried that and failed, and things seem to get tricky after that. I agree, I would rather avoid the nitty gritty stuff.
So I am devastated to see that there is no lock animation =(. That was something I was really looking forward to, despite the insignificance.
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sship said:
I actually would prefer this to flashing a version of this rom that someone else has extracted/altered, however little. My fear is two things:
1 -- Will it brick my phone to flash a PCIMG file? (see here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=838484)
2 -- what do I have to do differently to flash a PCIMG file other than what I normally would do in clockwork to flash another rom (for example a CM rom)
THANKS!
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My opinion, you're better off flashing the rooted ROM. If you flash the official PC10IMG.ZIP, you will lose root, and not be able to get it back without downgrading (negating the purpose of flashing the official ROM in the first place).
Are you worried about malicious, or accidentally harmful modifications to the ROM (in the rooted version of the leak)? I don't worry much about ROMs for reputable developers. But admittedly, I don't know anything about that user that posted the rooted version of the leak.
In response to your questions:
1) As the thread you posted indicates, its safer not to flash those files unless you know exactly what you are doing.
2) I think you can flash from Clockwork. But as I said, if you aren't sure what you are doing, its not a good idea. You will lose root, and I think some people have also gotten S-On by flashing the official ROMs also. I which case, you may be pretty screwed (as far as getting root), since you can't flash other ROMs with S-On.
Alright so I've reading through all sorts of different forums and feel lost and exactly what to do. I downloaded the official 2.3 update ROM for the G2 that Football had released off of a mirrored site from my phone's browser then renamed it PC10IMG and moved to the root of the SD card. I then did the whole volume down + power button to load the zip but for some reason it says:
VISION PVT SHIP S-ON
HBOOT-0.82.0000
MICROP-0425
RADIO-26.03.02.26_M
eMMC-boot
Sep 2 2010,17:59:38
SD checking...
Loading...[PC10DIAG.zip]
No image!
Loading...[PC10DIAG.nbh]
No image or wrong image!
Loading...[PC10IMG.zip]
No image!
Loading...[PC10IMG.nbh]
No image or wrong image!
I have no idea what to do or anything so help would be much appreciated. Now I would post this in that forum but because I just recently joined this site it will not allow me to do so. So, yea. Thanks.
Mr. Shaggy said:
Alright so I've reading through all sorts of different forums and feel lost and exactly what to do. I downloaded the official 2.3 update ROM for the G2 that Football had released off of a mirrored site from my phone's browser then renamed it PC10IMG and moved to the root of the SD card. I then did the whole volume down + power button to load the zip but for some reason it says:
VISION PVT SHIP S-ON
HBOOT-0.82.0000
MICROP-0425
RADIO-26.03.02.26_M
eMMC-boot
Sep 2 2010,17:59:38
SD checking...
Loading...[PC10DIAG.zip]
No image!
Loading...[PC10DIAG.nbh]
No image or wrong image!
Loading...[PC10IMG.zip]
No image!
Loading...[PC10IMG.nbh]
No image or wrong image!
I have no idea what to do or anything so help would be much appreciated. Now I would post this in that forum but because I just recently joined this site it will not allow me to do so. So, yea. Thanks.
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Make sure it is named PC10IMG.zip and not PC10IMG.zip.zip
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So I checked it out and it's named PC10IMG.zip so I don't know what could be wrong. I find it weird that I'm the only one having this problem.

get back to stock 3.01

I installed the 3.1 firmware from this site, what is the easiest way to get back to 3.01. I keep reading conflicting procedures. I have one way what is the easiest way to convert back to american 3.01
jjnewb said:
I installed the 3.1 firmware from this site, what is the easiest way to get back to 3.01. I keep reading conflicting procedures. I have one way what is the easiest way to convert back to american 3.01
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The easiest way, as has been said time and time again, is to restore to the backup you should have made before altering your tablet's ROM.
Me and a lot of people didn't back up
If I backed up I wouldn't be asking this question. Obviously you backed up, I didn't you are my hero!! I didn't root or use the backup program I just downloaded 3.1 onto external sd then hit on on -vol. it loaded with no problem. If you have an easy way to get back to 3.01 American you would definitely be my hero.
jjnewb said:
If I backed up I wouldn't be asking this question. Obviously you backed up, I didn't you are my hero!! I didn't root or use the backup program I just downloaded 3.1 onto external sd then hit on on -vol. it loaded with no problem. If you have an easy way to get back to 3.01 American you would definitely be my hero.
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There are several threads describing how to go back. Why don't you be your own hero and do a little reading?
Will this work
I am very new at this and I know the new ota is coming out tomorrow if I use this will it work so I can get new update http://www.acertabletforum.com/forum/acer-iconia-tab-roms/559-return-stock-acer-rom.html
just do a factory reset...the apps that are not responding now will start working fine...
--same happened to me and after go for a factory reset everything was just fine...and i still keep the 3.1 just working flawless.
FloatingFatMan said:
There are several threads describing how to go back. Why don't you be your own hero and do a little reading?
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LoL the first day I bought the a500 I made sure I backed up the stock Rom after I got recovery, its just chilling in my recovery folder
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someone got link to post explaining at least that could be nice.
sanaell said:
someone got link to post explaining at least that could be nice.
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+1 please!!
Not to be an ass, but when we are talking about doing or not doing backups before flashing ANY ROM to your pad. The most important question you can ask yourself is, "At what point did or will my data become unimportant to me?"
Duckman33 said:
when we are talking about doing or not doing backups before flashing ANY ROM to your pad. The most important question you can ask yourself is, "At what point did or will my data become unimportant to me?"
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That is certainly one interpretation but since I can only speak for myself, that wasn't the issue for me. My data *IS* important to me and I do religious backups through TitaniumBackup. In my case, I misunderstood the backup process and skipped it because I thought it was redundant when flashing a new ROM.
I had read extensively but didn't realize that I needed an additional backup of the ROM. I take full responsibility and blame no one but myself because I knew the risks of living on the edge.
All this to say == it isn't always a matter of not caring about data...sometimes, I suppose, but not always.
awerry said:
That is certainly one interpretation but since I can only speak for myself, that wasn't the issue for me. My data *IS* important to me and I do religious backups through TitaniumBackup. In my case, I misunderstood the backup process and skipped it because I thought it was redundant when flashing a new ROM.
I had read extensively but didn't realize that I needed an additional backup of the ROM. I take full responsibility and blame no one but myself because I knew the risks of living on the edge.
All this to say == it isn't always a matter of not caring about data...sometimes, I suppose, but not always.
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Usually a moderator will come in here and "discipline" the people in here lecturing you instead of helping.
Don't get discouraged by people telling you to read elsewhere or lecturing you on the importance of backing up.
On one of my YouTube videos on helping people perform a factory reset of the HTC G1 smartphone there's almost 300,00 views now. Once in awhile there's someone who comments to those people with a lecture. (I delete those comments.)
I mention this to simply emphasize that the high and mighty attitude some display in here is not restricted to XDA.
In any event, there's a few threads specifically on getting the A500 back to 3.01 And those threads provide posts with links to downloading the original Honeycomb. It's just as easy as it is to update.
FloatingFatMan said:
The easiest way, as has been said time and time again, is to restore to the backup you should have made before altering your tablet's ROM.
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I created a system, flexrom and boot image of my A500 directly after I got root. Is this what you mean by a backup? Since I believe I can just run dd if=/dev/block/system.img of=/sdcard/mmcblk0p3 and all to restore the images to stock?
SanFrancisco said:
I mention this to simply emphasize that the high and mighty attitude some display in here is not restricted to XDA.
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Thanks for the kind words... I am always surprised at the vast number of people who are so helpful in forums like this. It is amazing how many go far above the call of duty in running down solutions for total strangers.
Those interested in getting back their OTA, properly backing up their original ROMS or restoring them, please follow the tutorials in this thread:
Going back to stock TUTORIAL
Be helpful and provide your firmware if you have a backup so we can build a database for those who don't.
Be sure to report what is working and what is not working for you once you've tried the tutorials!
Unlike the 14 threads on these matter I take the responsibility as OP to upgrade my original post as firmwares and new info becomes available.

how do i get rid of amon ra for cwm?

i had clockwork mod but wanted to try amon ra so i flashed it and now cant get rid of it.. anyone know how?
you can use rom manager to flash the latest CWM recovery or if you have the recovery image file you can flash it via flash_image with adb or terminal emulator
the command would be something like
flash_image recovery filename.img
Keep Amon....there is NO good reason to use Clockworkmod.
IMO Amon is a better choice than CWM. I have seen lots of issues with CWM and Rom Manager while Amon RA has had fewer and seems to do a better job. If you are certain you want to switch, go here and follow the directions to get CWM 2.6.0.1
Braneless said:
Keep Amon....there is NO good reason to use Clockworkmod.
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+1............
Stay on Amon RA.
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its funny how everyone states its better but doesnt provide any evidence.
flame on
drdrewdown said:
its funny how everyone states its better but doesnt provide any evidence.
flame on
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The only evidence I can provide is the number of times I had issues with installing roms and had major problems. As soon as I switched to AmonRa all the problems disappeared. Some say the AmonRa clears Dalvik and cache much better. Give it a try.... you can easily switch back and forth.
winter128 said:
The only evidence I can provide is the number of times I had issues with installing roms and had major problems. As soon as I switched to AmonRa all the problems disappeared. Some say the AmonRa clears Dalvik and cache much better. Give it a try.... you can easily switch back and forth.
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I also had problems with cwm flashing new roms/kernels and backing up and restoring. After going to amon ra I haven't had any problems
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I had problems installing roms with cwm. Had a couple of boot loop issues because if it. I don't like to use it. Hey, if cwm works for you, fine, last I checked this was a general forum for everyone to give feedback on their personal experiences.
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drdrewdown said:
its funny how everyone states its better but doesnt provide any evidence.
flame on
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That's a good point. If you don't mind, I'll share a couple things from my limited experience:
1. Amon-Ra allows you to select which partitions to wipe, making flashing new roms much easier and more intuitive.
2. It allows you to select which partitions to include in nandroid backups as well
3. CWM is no longer backward compatible with older types of flash package scripts. I don't entirely understand this, but I needed to flash rooted OTA 3.70 a few times and had to downgrade my CWM.
Sadly, I'm currently unrooted because of a new phone and the stupid GB OTA update. My own stupid fault, but I'm jealous of any custom recovery at this point...
soldierforchrist2 said:
That's a good point. If you don't mind, I'll share a couple things from my limited experience:
1. Amon-Ra allows you to select which partitions to wipe, making flashing new roms much easier and more intuitive.
2. It allows you to select which partitions to include in nandroid backups as well
3. CWM is no longer backward compatible with older types of flash package scripts. I don't entirely understand this, but I needed to flash rooted OTA 3.70 a few times and had to downgrade my CWM.
Sadly, I'm currently unrooted because of a new phone and the stupid GB OTA update. My own stupid fault, but I'm jealous of any custom recovery at this point...
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1) you can format any partition in CWM
2) you can choose advance restore when doing a nandroid restore
3) this is well explained in Koush's thread regarding amend vs edify scripting
i understand where you're coming from tho, & i'm sorry you have an unrooted device... i'm not sure how i'd handle that if it was me lol
however on the flipside
i was just vaguely making a point that perhaps all these people who claim Amon_ra is sooo much better are often times the same people who claim they've wiped cache/dalvik 18x & are still having problems.
i personally have no problem with either recovery, they both do exactly what they are supposed to. its quite disrespectful to Koush who is an awesome part of the whole picture. Without him supporting & creating CWM for the crazy amount of devices, where would we all be right now? Not to mention he's a huge part of cyanogemod & for everyone to say his recovery is garbage isn't kosher imo.
its personal preference & honestly none of this has anything to do with the OP & the question he had lol
i mean no hard feelings about anything i've said, so i hope nobody takes offense.
drdrewdown said:
1) you can format any partition in CWM
2) you can choose advance restore when doing a nandroid restore
3) this is well explained in Koush's thread regarding amend vs edify scripting
i understand where you're coming from tho, & i'm sorry you have an unrooted device... i'm not sure how i'd handle that if it was me lol
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Sounds reasonable to me. I never figured out how to do those things with CWM, but I was new to rooting at the time and eventually switched to Amon-Ra
By the way, did the person who started this thread ever figure out how to get back to CWM? Doesn't CWM have PC36IMG.zip that you can download and allow to flash?
Only reason I ever switched to Amon's recovery is for the older script support, and really I don't even use that unless it's for a theme for a rom or something. I'm just too lazy to switch back to CWM lawlz.
drdrewdown said:
1) you can format any partition in CWM
2) you can choose advance restore when doing a nandroid restore
3) this is well explained in Koush's thread regarding amend vs edify scripting
i understand where you're coming from tho, & i'm sorry you have an unrooted device... i'm not sure how i'd handle that if it was me lol
however on the flipside
i was just vaguely making a point that perhaps all these people who claim Amon_ra is sooo much better are often times the same people who claim they've wiped cache/dalvik 18x & are still having problems.
i personally have no problem with either recovery, they both do exactly what they are supposed to. its quite disrespectful to Koush who is an awesome part of the whole picture. Without him supporting & creating CWM for the crazy amount of devices, where would we all be right now? Not to mention he's a huge part of cyanogemod & for everyone to say his recovery is garbage isn't kosher imo.
its personal preference & honestly none of this has anything to do with the OP & the question he had lol
i mean no hard feelings about anything i've said, so i hope nobody takes offense.
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Right On Brother
drdrewdown said:
1) you can format any partition in CWM
2) you can choose advance restore when doing a nandroid restore
3) this is well explained in Koush's thread regarding amend vs edify scripting
i understand where you're coming from tho, & i'm sorry you have an unrooted device... i'm not sure how i'd handle that if it was me lol
however on the flipside
i was just vaguely making a point that perhaps all these people who claim Amon_ra is sooo much better are often times the same people who claim they've wiped cache/dalvik 18x & are still having problems.
i personally have no problem with either recovery, they both do exactly what they are supposed to. its quite disrespectful to Koush who is an awesome part of the whole picture. Without him supporting & creating CWM for the crazy amount of devices, where would we all be right now? Not to mention he's a huge part of cyanogemod & for everyone to say his recovery is garbage isn't kosher imo.
its personal preference & honestly none of this has anything to do with the OP & the question he had lol
i mean no hard feelings about anything i've said, so i hope nobody takes offense.
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Did you edit this, or did I just miss the latter half the first time reading it?? Very good point, and I'm wondering again if the OP got the help he needed
Yeah, lack of root sucks... I think there's some new exploits coming our way very soon though!
soldierforchrist2 said:
Did you edit this, or did I just miss the latter half the first time reading it?? Very good point, and I'm wondering again if the OP got the help he needed
Yeah, lack of root sucks... I think there's some new exploits coming our way very soon though!
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yea sorry man i was editing as you posted.
i wonder if i'd be tempted to sell my 2.3 evo on ebay then buy one with 2.2 on it lol
drdrewdown said:
its funny how everyone states its better but doesnt provide any evidence.
flame on
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Because it's already been documented a thousand times on xda. Why reiterate over and over again?
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drdrewdown said:
yea sorry man i was editing as you posted.
i wonder if i'd be tempted to sell my 2.3 evo on ebay then buy one with 2.2 on it lol
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No problem. I was just confused, lol.
Lots of other people have done that... I was "out of my mind" for a while, but it looks like I'll be able to root it again very soon!
It's Dominos Pizza vs. Pizza Hut. Everyone likes Pizza, some like Pizza Hut, most like Dominos. You can't fault either side, but you can't realistically just proclaim your preference is better either.
I used CWM for awhile, I like AR better. That's just me, and for some reason, most people agree. I really don't think it's a case of the blind following the blind.
Most of the heavy hitters use AR. If for no other reason, that's good enough for me.

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