So I just had a very long conversation with an AT&T rep. I asked him why is my "4G" soooo slow. He told me that my SIM card said I was using my Touch Pro 2 still, I checked myself on my account and I was clearly not. So then he said the my Unlimited Data plan didn't support AT&T's 4G plan (even though 3 Advisors said it did.
After that he told me that if I wanted 4G speeds I had to get a "4G" 2GB or 200MB data plan. So I said, "Well theres been many tests on Engadget and the XDA developers and that they all had slow speed." His reply was something like this, "You're reading off of forums and blogs, which aren't official statements and I would know more about this than they would."
I got into a heated argument about how T-Mobile had way faster HSPA+ speeds and how the iPhone 4's DL and UL speeds weren't capped. He told me that there has to be capped speeds so that everyone gets a fair share. So is iPhone 4 getting faster speeds while Android phones get capped fair? F**k no.
I told him that If this Bullsh*t doesn't get fixed by the end of may, I'm switching to Verizon, where 4G really means 4G and not sub-3G.
He finally said that the speeds have been capped because they want to push more people to the iPhone 4, which can draw in more revenue.
>>I will call them again and record it. That is if people want me to.
Yes, please call back and record a CS person saying that speeds are capped because of the reasons you posted.
After that, I... might.. believe you.
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Yes, please call back and record a CS person saying that speeds are capped because of the reasons you posted.
After that, I... might.. believe you.
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LOL. You must be on AT&T side. Ill have to call bad later this week.
Ouch.. That sucks... I recently switched from AT&T to T-Mobile and the speeds are a lot better... I really hope the whole merge doesn't go through...
In my prior experience with AT&T, 3G speeds were great until everyone started using an iPhone, then their network became saturated...It's to bad they don't care about their customers and the speed as much as they do their revenue..
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LOL. You must be on AT&T side. Ill have to call bad later this week.
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I'm on the side of reason.
But I'll let you be now. I forget about the "do not feed" rule sometimes.
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Ouch.. That sucks... I recently switched from AT&T to T-Mobile and the speeds are a lot better... I really hope the whole merge doesn't go through...
In my prior experience with AT&T, 3G speeds were great until everyone started using an iPhone, then their network became saturated...It's to bad they don't care about their customers and the speed as much as they do their revenue..
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Wow you understand. I hope the deal doesn't go through. If it doesn't then Im going to T-Mobile for the better speeds and the waaaaaaaay better customer support. AT&T = Evil Empire
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I'm on the side of reason.
But I'll let you be now. I forget about the "do not feed" rule sometimes.
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What? But everyone knows AT&T lies. Im going to call again and see what they say. Ill record it with my camera (I don't trust call recorders on phones) and put it up.
What a waste of space. Ever phone company lies, its the way it is. If you do not like what ATT offers, move on.
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What a waste of space. Ever phone company lies, its the way it is. If you do not like what ATT offers, move on.
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If HSUPA or HSPA+ doesn't get enabled soon im either going to verizon with LTE and actually coverage or T-Mobile where you get what you paid for. AT&T screwed all of us, including you.
Some areas still do not have 3g, let alone 4g. I bought mine off contract, so I did not pay for 4g.
Yea... i really don't think the guy you spoke with has any idea wtf he's talking about.
"the speeds have been capped because they want to push more people to the iPhone 4, which can draw in more revenue."
Mmhmm... now let's look at the completely idiotic sounding literal version of that if we include information that we already know.
"The speeds have been capped on the Atrix and Inspire in order to push more people to buy iPhones, even though other non-4G-capable Android phones are capable of the same 3G speeds as the iPhones are. We are also not publicly stating that the iPhone is capable of faster data rates at this time in hopes that the iPhone might be their next choice if they buy a 4G-capable phone and are dissatisfied with the service."
... see what i'm getting at here?
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Some areas still do not have 3g, let alone 4g. I bought mine off contract, so I did not pay for 4g.
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Well nether did I. I just kept the Unlimited data that ive had for the past 2 years
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Yea... i really don't think the guy you spoke with has any idea wtf he's talking about.
"the speeds have been capped because they want to push more people to the iPhone 4, which can draw in more revenue."
Mmhmm... now let's look at the completely idiotic sounding literal version of that if we include information that we already know.
"The speeds have been capped on the Atrix and Inspire in order to push more people to buy iPhones, even though other non-4G-capable Android phones are capable of the same 3G speeds as the iPhones are. We are also not publicly stating that the iPhone is capable of faster data rates at this time in hopes that the iPhone might be their next choice if they buy a 4G-capable phone and are dissatisfied with the service."
... see what i'm getting at here?
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Yeah, thats why im going to call them again.
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LOL. You must be on AT&T side. Ill have to call bad later this week.
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When j bought my atrix an instore rep told me that 2
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I talked to AT&T yesterday to ask about HSPA+ backhaul timeframe. They said they won't give a date so they aren't giving out bad information. I pointed out that AT&T said on Facebook it would be ready for Atrix and Inspire users by mid April, and the rep said that was bad information. LOL so they learned their lesson that since they can't keep promises, might as well not make any? Weak.
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So I just had a very long conversation with an AT&T rep. I asked him why is my "4G" soooo slow. He told me that my SIM card said I was using my Touch Pro 2 still, I checked myself on my account and I was clearly not. So then he said the my Unlimited Data plan didn't support AT&T's 4G plan (even though 3 Advisors said it did.
After that he told me that if I wanted 4G speeds I had to get a "4G" 2GB or 200MB data plan. So I said, "Well theres been many tests on Engadget and the XDA developers and that they all had slow speed." His reply was something like this, "You're reading off of forums and blogs, which aren't official statements and I would know more about this than they would."
I got into a heated argument about how T-Mobile had way faster HSPA+ speeds and how the iPhone 4's DL and UL speeds weren't capped. He told me that there has to be capped speeds so that everyone gets a fair share. So is iPhone 4 getting faster speeds while Android phones get capped fair? F**k no.
I told him that If this Bullsh*t doesn't get fixed by the end of may, I'm switching to Verizon, where 4G really means 4G and not sub-3G.
He finally said that the speeds have been capped because they want to push more people to the iPhone 4, which can draw in more revenue.
>>I will call them again and record it. That is if people want me to.
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Dude I've had the same EXACT conversation with these BS reps (save for the last part when they admit to capping).
AHHH ---- I filed a complaint with the BBB.
I feel bad for those reps...to them its just a job, they are paid to read scripts, not dig up corporate corruption. It's like calling up the fry cook at McDonalds and asking him why your hamburger is not 100% real meat. He doesn't know, he just cooks it. If you want to talk to someone about the capping, call Ralph De La Vega's office.
Damn, this guy has 45 post and all are at&t hate. Nobody in care would ever tell you that because for one thing, it's not true, and two they would easily lose their job by saying anything like that, and because every interaction is recorded and documented on your account, they would be fired quickly. The reason HSUPA isn't enable is because android is very finicky with HSUPA. With the captivate, for example, you could change a modem file and get HSUPA, but it would normally knock out Bluetooth, or call quality. They're working to fix this, it's already in testing, so you should have your fix very soon. Also, what's your beef with the T-mo buyout? Better coverage, lower prices? Seems to be a win win for me. Either way, you can't really stop it, so just go to Verizon, get your Thunderbolt which is 1/2 as powerful with 1/4 the battery and twice the bill. Enjoy your 12mb/s (in only about 40 cities) while I'll enjoy my plenty fast 5-8mb/s when the back-haul to the towers is all complete (which in my area is the end of this month). Oh no, it actually takes time for a company to push out a nation wide roll out! Amazing that they can't just nod their head and it be done. My rant is done, but can somebody ban this hate spewer?
OH! and when you call, get the agent's UID and post it. I'll follow up with them to confirm your false statements are false.
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The reason HSUPA isn't enable is because android is very finicky with HSUPA. With the captivate, for example, you could change a modem file and get HSUPA, but it would normally knock out Bluetooth, or call quality.
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Wow, what a load. Tons of other Android phones around the world, not to mention Galaxy S variants with the same core hardware, are using HSUPA without issue.
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Wow, what a load. Tons of other Android phones around the world, not to mention Galaxy S variants with the same core hardware, are using HSUPA without issue.
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exactly. the only time HSUPA broke bluetooth was when you used i9000 kernel/modem together with an i897 rom. its something specific to ATT's crappy network that caused the issues.
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love the epic, awesome phone. but being stuck in 2006 with 3G data and paying basically the same as other people are paying to the other carriers with 4g data is frustrating to say the least. Especially when I was told 4G would be in my area but it isn't anywhere within 5 miles of where I live and I don't live in the boonies. Further, even where I can get 4G, its completely unusable, just goes on for a little bit, then disconnects, then reconnects. Chat told me they were still building out the network which I seriously fail to believe.
So bottom line, has anyone had any luck with getting out of the ETF fee so they can go to a carrier that didn't lie about 4G?
I have 4G data over most of the central Ohio area. It works great, very consistent and still has better coverage than any of the other networks "4G" services.
I am tired of seeing so many thread about either not having 4G or having it and thinking it doesn't work. If you don't want to pay for it, then get a phone that doesn't have the option, then you can't complain. Sprint is STILL cheaper than any of the other networks for comparable features and options. Even with a "$10" service charge for "data".
And on that note... Doing research before jumping into a contract for something that MAY or MAY NOT work is a smart idea. I didn't even buy the phone or plan to begin with for the 4G service, I bought it for the keyboard, and the 4G was a nice addition.
I really don't know what else to say, but it seems a LOT of the Epic 4G owners are whiny babies. At least the majority of the threads leading up to the Froyo release seem to point towards that conclusion.
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I have 4G data over most of the central Ohio area. It works great, very consistent and still has better coverage than any of the other networks "4G" services.
I am tired of seeing so many thread about either not having 4G or having it and thinking it doesn't work. If you don't want to pay for it, then get a phone that doesn't have the option, then you can't complain. Sprint is STILL cheaper than any of the other networks for comparable features and options. Even with a "$10" service charge for "data".
And on that note... Doing research before jumping into a contract for something that MAY or MAY NOT work is a smart idea. I didn't even buy the phone or plan to begin with for the 4G service, I bought it for the keyboard, and the 4G was a nice addition.
I really don't know what else to say, but it seems a LOT of the Epic 4G owners are whiny babies. At least the majority of the threads leading up to the Froyo release seem to point towards that conclusion.
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That's pretty easy for you to say since you already have 4G.
From what I have read, no carrier has true 4G currently. But t be honest I am pretty pleased with the speeds I get with 3G.
But it would be nice to get the speed boost that sprint is calling 4g
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I'm glad its working for you, why don't you try it down here in south florida. it apparently works okay for people in Miami too. that doesn't help the people that were all told they were getting it. And before you type inane stupid things, try to think before you type. I did my research, i was told 4G was coming, and specifically to my city, yet it isn't in my city or any of the neighboring cities, plus sprint is talking about switching to LTE so thats a pretty good indication that WIMAX certainly isn't getting built out anymore in areas where it is "Live". And according to sprint south florida is live from Miami Beach to West Palm Beach. Oh except for the 80% of the parts that aren't. LOL. Oh and you didn't buy the phone for 4G, thats good for you, I bet 80% or more of the people did buy it for 4G. No one is complaining abou the price, its a great price, if 4G actually worked. and the other companies like ATT Tmobile have speeds that are at least 7 times higher than 3G sprint. so I'd consider that 4G. Verizon will be there very soon and Metro, Metro of all carriers, the dog crap carrier has 4G and its half the price of what i'm paying for sprint to lie directly to me.
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I have 4G data over most of the central Ohio area. It works great, very consistent and still has better coverage than any of the other networks "4G" services.
I am tired of seeing so many thread about either not having 4G or having it and thinking it doesn't work. If you don't want to pay for it, then get a phone that doesn't have the option, then you can't complain. Sprint is STILL cheaper than any of the other networks for comparable features and options. Even with a "$10" service charge for "data".
And on that note... Doing research before jumping into a contract for something that MAY or MAY NOT work is a smart idea. I didn't even buy the phone or plan to begin with for the 4G service, I bought it for the keyboard, and the 4G was a nice addition.
I really don't know what else to say, but it seems a LOT of the Epic 4G owners are whiny babies. At least the majority of the threads leading up to the Froyo release seem to point towards that conclusion.
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I have 4G data over most of the central Ohio area. It works great, very consistent and still has better coverage than any of the other networks "4G" services.
I am tired of seeing so many thread about either not having 4G or having it and thinking it doesn't work. If you don't want to pay for it, then get a phone that doesn't have the option, then you can't complain. Sprint is STILL cheaper than any of the other networks for comparable features and options. Even with a "$10" service charge for "data".
And on that note... Doing research before jumping into a contract for something that MAY or MAY NOT work is a smart idea. I didn't even buy the phone or plan to begin with for the 4G service, I bought it for the keyboard, and the 4G was a nice addition.
I really don't know what else to say, but it seems a LOT of the Epic 4G owners are whiny babies. At least the majority of the threads leading up to the Froyo release seem to point towards that conclusion.
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Such a poor argument... They are charging the extra cash now on any smartphone. Also, have you seen a single decent android phone on sprint besides the evo, shift, or epic? They don't exist for a reason, to funnel people into 4g phones.
to the op... Yeh I'm fairly sick of not having it, it's extremely close to me but it fades all the time. Basically, just like the epic itself it was a great idea, awesome technology, but poor execution leaving it lacking.
its not that I really need it that much, its the thought of forking over 150 bucks a month for 2 phones for almost the next 2 years that is frustrating, especially when 3G is out of date now, let alone by next year.
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Such a poor argument... They are charging the extra cash now on any smartphone. Also, have you seen a single decent android phone on sprint besides the evo, shift, or epic? They don't exist for a reason, to funnel people into 4g phones.
to the op... Yeh I'm fairly sick of not having it, it's extremely close to me but it fades all the time. Basically, just like the epic itself it was a great idea, awesome technology, but poor execution leaving it lacking.
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I am tired of seeing so many thread about either not having 4G or having it and thinking it doesn't work. If you don't want to pay for it, then get a phone that doesn't have the option, then you can't complain. Sprint is STILL cheaper than any of the other networks for comparable features and options. Even with a "$10" service charge for "data".
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So you are saying people shouldn't try to future proof as much as possible? Not everyone can afford to buy a new phone every year or 2 years, etc. So if you are up for a new phone, why not get a 4G phone. That way, when 4G finally comes to a city that is on Sprints list, you won't have to upgrade your hardware.
Seems like Sprint isn't upgrading/expanding their 4G network at all and Sprint customers are stuck paying just as much as other people on other carriers for the same/slower speeds. Not cool
Fed up with the lack of 4G? Absolutely. And let's not forget Sprint shafting their "Premier" customers and getting rid of yearly upgrades if your plan isn't over 89.99 or if you've been with Sprint for 10 years. If Sprint keeps it up, they will continue to lose customers.
Look. The epic 4g has 4g capability. The phone is a multimedia powerhouse with or with out 4g. 4g is nice but not a necessity. Can some of you honestly say that you would tether your phone to the computer to play WOW? If the answer is yes...please seek counseling for your WOW and youtube addictions. Guys nothing is ever truely perfect.
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Id be frustrated if I bought th phone and was paying for 4g and not getting it.
But, I live in nyc so I knew I wasgonna get 4g sooner or later so I upgraded and a week later 4g went live
You should've gone with another carrier. Like the other guy said, do research befoe signing your wireless life away for two years.
Right no I don't even have 4g service, or even 1xrtt. I'm in wifi only right now, but idc. Because I know when I get home, I'm not gonna have any service issues. I leave 4g on while I'm home in nyc.
I was seriously considering going to t-mo because my friend with his TP2 was getting 5mb/s dl speeds and stuff, but sprint came through at the right time so I stuck with them.
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I spend 1/2 of my time in NYC (which has 4g) and 1/2 the time in Long Island which does not. Although it work well when the phone is actually connected, most of the time I cannot connect to it while inside a building (even in Manhattan coverage is pretty spotty) - so when I wifi tether 4G hardly ever works. In Long Island, most of the places that I am in have wifi so lack of 4G has not been a problem personally. But I understand being upset for paying the $10 a month without ANY 4G availability in the home market.
again, did the research, read the quoted press releases and the article from the newspaper down here that listed the cities 4G was coming to. so i would be happy to go with another carrier but can't fork over ETF, and buy another phone when I already forked out 500 for these.
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You should've gone with another carrier. Like the other guy said, do research befoe signing your wireless life away for two years.
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Look. The epic 4g has 4g capability. The phone is a multimedia powerhouse with or with out 4g. 4g is nice but not a necessity. Can some of you honestly say that you would tether your phone to the computer to play WOW? If the answer is yes...please seek counseling for your WOW and youtube addictions. Guys nothing is ever truely perfect.
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i don't know about you, but I don't do anything major on the phone, I do like to browse the web though and occasionally download something, like maybe a new rom for the phone thats impossible to do at 3G speeds that half the time are 300K or less. want to send a picture? how good is that going to work on 300K. So its not like 4G is just for gamers or youtube fanatics. youtube isn't even installed on my phone.
I have used WiMax in Atlanta and Nashville, and its awesome.
The Epic is Epic even without 4G, but I do wish I had it here in Louisville.
"I can piss farther than you can"
"Nu-uh"
"Uh-huh"
"Bet ya can't"
"Bet I can"
"Cannot"
"Watch"
My concern is they've quit releasing any sort of expansion plans. Last year when the EVO and Epic were fresh they went on and on about which markets would be getting it. Now, nothing. If I at least knew if it was eventually coming to my area I'd be happy. Sprint has until my contract is up or VZW/ATT get LTE going to get some 4G in my area or I'll finally be switching carriers after almost 10 years. That being said, I get pretty decent 3G speeds to tide me over in the meantime.
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I am tired of seeing so many thread about either not having 4G or having it and thinking it doesn't work. If you don't want to pay for it, then get a phone that doesn't have the option, then you can't complain. Sprint is STILL cheaper than any of the other networks for comparable features and options. Even with a "$10" service charge for "data".
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Actually t-mobile has a equivalent plan cost. My girlfriend has a G2 and it is faster than my 4g (san antonio) she was getting 8k down while I get 6 or 7. Not to mention they get a better signal here.
No need to be a jerk about it. You would be just a frustrated if a sprint rep told you that 4g is coming soon...but it hasn't.
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love the epic, awesome phone. but being stuck in 2006 with 3G data and paying basically the same as other people are paying to the other carriers with 4g data is frustrating to say the least. Especially when I was told 4G would be in my area but it isn't anywhere within 5 miles of where I live and I don't live in the boonies. Further, even where I can get 4G, its completely unusable, just goes on for a little bit, then disconnects, then reconnects. Chat told me they were still building out the network which I seriously fail to believe.
So bottom line, has anyone had any luck with getting out of the ETF fee so they can go to a carrier that didn't lie about 4G?
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No one lied. On the Sprint website you can look at the 4G coverage map. If that wasn't good enough, you shouldn't have jumped onboard.
Verizon and T-Mobile are aggressively building out their 4G networks. ATT has upgraded its 3G and unveils 4G this summer.
Sprint's 4G expansion has mostly halted as Clearwire teeters on the edge of bankruptcy. This 'news' was obviously not known when these phones were released with Wimax touted. The OP's criticism is valid.
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No one lied. On the Sprint website you can look at the 4G coverage map. If that wasn't good enough, you shouldn't have jumped onboard.
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really?? I could look at the coverage map before they put it on the site right? before it was live in south florida? The rep asking me for my zip code and telling me I would be getting it soon wasn't lying? or the one on chat that said they are still building it and I would get 4G soon wasn't lying right?
AT&T hasn't enabled 4G on any device because they haven't FINISHED setting it up yet. Give them time, you guys are so impatient about this 4G garbage, there is a reason why they're taking their time, did you guys forget what happened with the iPhone when it started to use 3G. They're going to make sure they won't get flooded and they'll have enough to go around. I've got a few friends that work for the network engineering department and i've been told by them that the network isn't fully set so 4G isn't fully activated yet. Quit complaining, it's a good thing that its not up yet because then you guys would REALLY *****!
the phone is called 'atrix 4g' and they are toting it as a 4g phone. How unreasonable that we might have expectations of it.. lolz
4G meaning it has the capability to do 4G! Doesn't mean it will have it right off the bat...you know when you buy the phone AT&T tells you that the 4G network isn't up. If you bought it without paying attention on what the guys told you, then it is all your fault for buying it thinking it will have 4G instantly... just give them time, AT&T is always known to have the most efficient network out of all. May not be the most reliable but they are the fastest.
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..May not be the most reliable but they are the fastest.
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someone is wrong on the internet, i'm calling the 4chan police.
1. Its not.capable of 4g. The htc thunderbolt is the only 4g phone. Do some research
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Will hspa+ even come close to Verizon's lte?
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LTE has currently a download peak of 326.4 Mbps (40.8 Mbps real time-speed) also counting that LTE is using a 1.4-20 MHz frequency range. LTE would have higher speed capabilities if it wasn't being hogged by the air interference, then it would possibly run at 71 Mbps real-time speed
HSPA+ is still in development and running at a download peak of 672Mbps (84 Mbps real-time speed) also counting that HPSA+ is only using a 5 MHz frequency range.
These aren't the exact fact of what AT&T or Verizon has but it is the capability, LTE has been live since 2004 globaly while HSPA+ has only been up since 2009. LTE is becoming old while HSPA WILL be the future. Just because LTE is currently faster doesn't mean it will be for long. When HSPA+ goes fully live with AT&T you may see a quicker speed, There are networks around the world that put HSPA+ up currently at 42 Mbps real-time
What if the Thunderbolt wouldn't have LTE until next year?
It would be laughed to the curb. The only reason people still by atrixs is because we've become accustomed to AT&T being a bunch of greedy cheapskates.
At&T says you "might see speeds up to approximately 6mbps [at best]"
http://www.wireless.att.com/answer-...locale=&_dyncharset=UTF-8&solutionId=KB115947
(the link isn't broken, just click on it, and wait about 5 secs.
The funniest thing is that 4G in the USA isn't the same as in Sweden. We've got 4G here as well. But the thing is that your 4G is about the same as your 3G if I ain't misinformed.
Our 4G is <80Mbit/s
http://www.tele2.se/mobilt-bredband/4g.html?cmpid=se.search.2011.s.google.cpc
also i forgot to say, AT&T will be using HSPA+ as an addon because LTE will soon be introduced to them sometime at the end of this year....so yeah utilizing more antennas meaning more speeds... =)
Yeah, I don't think people are as upset about not getting 4G speeds as they are upset about very often not even getting 3G speeds. The upload speeds on this phone are atrocious, and quite often the download speeds are as well.
But, hey, thanks for your post containing information we all already know.
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AT&T hasn't enabled 4G on any device because they haven't FINISHED setting it up yet. Give them time, you guys are so impatient about this 4G garbage, there is a reason why they're taking their time, did you guys forget what happened with the iPhone when it started to use 3G. They're going to make sure they won't get flooded and they'll have enough to go around. I've got a few friends that work for the network engineering department and i've been told by them that the network isn't fully set so 4G isn't fully activated yet. Quit complaining, it's a good thing that its not up yet because then you guys would REALLY *****!
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It's funny that you titled this "quick fact" when you haven't stated any facts whatsoever. You sound like an AT&T press statement. Plus, you can't compare the Atrix, or the Inspire for that matter, to the iPhone. Whereas the iPhone had sold over a million in the first 3 months of it's release, I doubt the Atrix and Inspire will reach 100,000 in that same time frame combined. This was deceptive marketing, plain and simple. AT&T covers their butt with small print and they more than likely trained the employees to avoid discussion on actual H+ rollout. There's a reason the story made it to Engadget and other tech sites when it was found that data speeds were capped on these phones, it's because AT&T didn't want anyone to know.
The major complaint isn't not having 4G its ATT capping our upload and giving all the bandwidth to their favorite child the iphone. Its just a bit upsetting that I pay the same monthly as any iphone user out there yet I get subpar service. I think what we all want is to have service like what is given to iphoners and that alone would quiet the masses about the lack of 4G.
PS. I live in Orlando a place I was told numerous times was a test city for their 4G yet no 4G here all I'm left with is a crippled 3G network that I no longer get good signal inside my own home. I think that's evetyones gripe with ATT
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The funniest thing is that 4G in the USA isn't the same as in Sweden. We've got 4G here as well. But the thing is that your 4G is about the same as your 3G if I ain't misinformed.
Our 4G is <80Mbit/s
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The thing is that theres more than 200million wireless users in America and have to share the OTA data bandwidth. In Sweden theres a lot less people therefore everyone gets faster speeds.
For all those who are saying be patient. What if you went out and bought a new Ferrari capable of going 200mph. Only to find out the factory limited it to only 70mph. Here you are getting passed on the highway every day by moms in their mini vans. All the while you're being told by the factory that eventually we'll take off the governor so just sit there and shut up. I think you would be a bit upset.
the OP sounds like a AT&T rep...
drock212 said:
The major complaint isn't not having 4G its ATT capping our upload and giving all the bandwidth to their favorite child the iphone. Its just a bit upsetting that I pay the same monthly as any iphone user out there yet I get subpar service. I think what we all want is to have service like what is given to iphoners and that alone would quiet the masses about the lack of 4G.
PS. I live in Orlando a place I was told numerous times was a test city for their 4G yet no 4G here all I'm left with is a crippled 3G network that I no longer get good signal inside my own home. I think that's evetyones gripe with ATT
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the OP sounds like a AT&T rep...
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Not to me, an ATT rep would know that ATT claims to have rolled out HSDPA+ across their entire footprint, while at the same time admitting that backhaul is far from complete. HSDPA+ is of course the justification for tagging the Atrix and Inspire as 4G.
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Not to me, an Art rep would know that Art claims to have rolled out HSDPA+ across their entire footprint, while at the same time.admitting that nackhaul is far.from complete. HSDPA+ is of course the.justification for tagging the Atrix and Inspire as 4G.
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Regardless if he's a rep or not, for the most part a forum like XDA was created as an act of defiance to the restrictions that carriers and manufactures have imposed on their products. So, why would anyone want to come in here and defend AT&T, or any carrier/manufacturer? It automatically makes you sound like a "plant".
I'm not trying to negate what you are saying, I agree with you. I just wanted to throw that out there.
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For all those who are saying be patient. What if you went out and bought a new Ferrari capable of going 200mph. Only to find out the factory limited it to only 70mph. Here you are getting passed on the highway every day by moms in their mini vans. All the while you're being told by the factory that eventually we'll take off the governor so just sit there and shut up. I think you would be a bit upset.
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Where can you go 200mph legally(or over 70 even in the US)? That's what I don't get. I understand high speed internet for home computers, you download and stream stuff all day. But on a cellphone, 3-4mbps is plenty fast.
'But I pay for 4g speeds!'
No you don't. You pay the same as any 3g device, with the same exact service. Get over yourself.
Wow i really do want this phone badly. But i'm just so afraid of sprints 3g coverage. I can barely watch a you tube video now. Anything that involves data sucks. What good is a phone if the coverage is horrable. Plus now they are really going to get hammered with to many people on the network for them to handle. Anyone else afraid of this?
I feel the same way. I live in phoenix and their 3g here (at least around my job and home) sucks balls. My friends edge tmobile phone gets better speeds.
No cause my sprints coverage has been great
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Sprint in Sacramento is kick-ass. I'm not worried.
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Sprint in Sacramento is kick-ass. I'm not worried.
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+1 for sactown always have full bars
I posted this in another thread but it applies here too. I get crappy 3G in my area and no 4G. They are so focused on bringing 3D phones but we can't even upload/stream regular vids to YouTube with their ****ty network. Why not roll out 4G in more cities and beef it up first? T-mobile is turning up the heat with 40mb in a few cities. This proves that sprint could turn it up as well if they wanted to.
http://www.androidcentral.com/t-mob...mpaign=Feed:+androidcentral+(Android+Central)
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I do wish that the new Evo did have the LTE radio, as rumored, but I get 5Mbps in my apartment on 4G, so I'm not going to complain too much. And I have no issues with my 3G in this area, either.
The thing of it is guys, is what are our options? AT&T-Mobile or Verizon. Both with data caps, sub-par customer service(at least from my experience with the GF's iphone) and high rates. There's really no other choice.
That being said, sprint absolutely needs to step up their network. My evo will never connect to 4G. i can be sitting in downtown Dallas, TX, right in the middle of the alleged 4G coverage area and never connect. Its worthless.
I've never had an issue with 3G. Wimax is another thing. It's mostly good but I hardly use it for anything. I'm almost always in Wifi when I want to download a big file anyway. Pretty sure they are going to eventually add LTE support to their towers since Wimax is ok for cheaply blanketing an area in Wifi-like coverage but isn't so great in big buildings and they are dependent on Clearwire's oversubscribed network.
For all the talk of "why are they worrying about 3D phones and stuff like that", they need to stay up on the flashy new handsets because that is what gets them subscribers. This is their chance to really make or break their company with the playing field narrowing soon. AT&T proved with the iPhone that folks will put up with all kinds of crap for a must-have handset so they need to keep putting out exclusives that stand out in the market in order to stay attractive to customers.
Moving to another company would cost me a lot more per month and add a data cap so I am not going anywhere soon. I used to have T-Mobile to fall back on if Sprint ever pissed me off but with them being bought up, it's time to double down on Sprint.
Since when does VZW have a data cap? And I dont mean some data cap that "may" come at some point down the road. At this point the data is still unlimited.
I live in KC, which is basically saying the Sprint HQ (overland park is a division of KC) and the service here could def be better. 3g is no too bad, unless you go to Overland Park. Which is funny, because your IN the campus, and service blows. 4g... you pretty much have to be downtown to really make it "better" than 3g. I too find it odd that t-mo can ramp up 3g speeds to topple our 4g. Co worker has tmo and he dominates me in d/l speed. Somehow for him that equates to his mytouch slide 4g being better than my evo, but then again he does have a wicked self idolize-ing issue.
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The thing of it is guys, is what are our options? AT&T-Mobile or Verizon. Both with data caps, sub-par customer service(at least from my experience with the GF's iphone) and high rates. There's really no other choice.
That being said, sprint absolutely needs to step up their network. My evo will never connect to 4G. i can be sitting in downtown Dallas, TX, right in the middle of the alleged 4G coverage area and never connect. Its worthless.
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what part of downtown? i can sit over by the opera house and get 4g.
Ok guys, relax. It's one of two things if you are getting slow 3g speeds.
First, Sprint is actually growing again. In some areas it's growing so much that the existing network is at capacity. It's being addressed.
Or, it's a bug with some phones on 3.70 or 3.70 based ROMs. It's being addressed in the next update (not sure if it's going to be gingerbread or not)
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Ok guys, relax. It's one of two things if you are getting slow 3g speeds.
First, Sprint is actually growing again. In some areas it's growing so much that the existing network is at capacity. It's being addressed.
Or, it's a bug with some phones on 3.70 or 3.70 based ROMs. It's being addressed in the next update (not sure if it's going to be gingerbread or not)
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Not disagreeing at all with your points, but the max capacity is what the op is saying he's/she's afraid of. I've seen extremely slow coverage expansion of 4g in KC, while other carries have been going hard at it. It's doubtful they are expanding 3g much anymore since 4g is the "new baby." I like Sprint don't get me wrong, but if the op is more concerned with coverage, and the fact that we face $10 a month for 4g coverage, he may very well be better off with another carrier.
You all act like Sprint could revamp their entire network overnight if they wanted. I know for fact they are working on it, and I see signs of improvement all the time. I can get 2Mb downloads now on 3g in several locations in my city where 2-3 months ago I was lucky to get 200k. Maybe they could make people happier faster in the short term by taking shortcuts, but it looks like they're doing it right. So have patience or gtfo.
http://newsroom.sprint.com/press_kits.cfm?presskit_id=19
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You all act like Sprint could revamp their entire network overnight if they wanted. I know for fact they are working on it, and I see signs of improvement all the time. I can get 2Mb downloads now on 3g in several locations in my city where 2-3 months ago I was lucky to get 200k. Maybe they could make people happier faster in the short term by taking shortcuts, but it looks like they're doing it right. So have patience or gtfo.
http://newsroom.sprint.com/press_kits.cfm?presskit_id=19
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Well if it's ok in your city then that should be ok for everyone worldwide then. Try growing up before posting please.
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Since when does VZW have a data cap? And I dont mean some data cap that "may" come at some point down the road. At this point the data is still unlimited.
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lol there unlimited, but we can and have canceled customers for using more then 5 gb a month without a tethering plan unlimited?
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lol there unlimited, but we can and have canceled customers for using more then 5 gb a month without a tethering plan unlimited?
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Supposedly Sprint also has a "cap." Never seen it myself, but that "rumor" has gone around a bit.
I feel the exact same way. My 3g is terrible, I get anywhere from 200-700 MAX DOWN and about 400 UP. No 4g at all. :/
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Well if it's ok in your city then that should be ok for everyone worldwide then. Try growing up before posting please.
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Try growing up?? WTF??? Did you not click on the link to see that I was trying to provide some hope for people that are not in a good data area?
I did not even say it was ok in my city... I said there are signs of improvement and there are places that are great. I was just trying to help people out who think the network sux everywhere and Sprint is not doing anything about it anywhere... because that is wrong. They are working on it diligently.
Perhaps my "have patience or gtfo" comment was a little rude, but that sums up the situation here. The network sux. It's getting better. If you can't wait for the improvements, complaining on xda is not going to do anything for you.
I called 1888-211-4227 requesting an airave in order to fix a coverage issue I've been having for the past 3 months.
It started out small but today it got on my nerve, the problem is that all 4 phones would show full 3g signal but when I tried to place a call and send text messages I got a network failure.
Today I was expecting a friend who drove 80miles to bring me a textbook my son needed for college and he told me he would call me when he was at the security gate of my neighborhood.
Security told him to leave because they couldn't reach ANY of my phones and after 2 hours he was able to reach me.
It pisses me off because when I called account services, I got to talk to 5 people who sounded like they knew what they were doing but it turns out they were idiots.
All of them transferred me to the same department over and over until their network failed and the call was dropped.
I got pissed and sent them an email demanding an airave and service for the damn premium data ad on I pay for with 100kbps 3g service.
sorry if I sound like a douche but damn it pisses me off that everyone says they improved customer service when its still the same idiots on the phone.
/end rant
The airrave doesnt always pull your calls when someone tries to reach you .. my ex called me like 5 times in a row and on the 6th it finally rang... better than 2hours but ya never know..
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Yea, I will be completely honest, I got an airave, and it was WAY more trouble than it was worth. It kept HOGGING by bandwidth, and I have a 20mb connection, it would slow all computers down to 5kb/s. It would randomly go off and on, texts would come in late (i would get no texts for hours, then i would get 50 all at once). And it messes with the gps on the phones, so its impossible to use Google Maps to map out a route.
damn, I really don't know what sprints deal is, I live in a very populated area where AT&T and Tmo have 4g and 3g without issues, somehow sprints been sucking and they haven't bothered to fix it.
I have full bars of 3g on all of my phones and I can see some cell sites from the roof of my home...I think the 3g tower is close to a 1x tower and the evo keeps connecting to both or something so it cant make up its mind of which tower to use. I'm stumped.
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damn, I really don't know what sprints deal is, I live in a very populated area where AT&T and Tmo have 4g and 3g without issues, somehow sprints been sucking and they haven't bothered to fix it.
I have full bars of 3g on all of my phones and I can see some cell sites from the roof of my home...I think the 3g tower is close to a 1x tower and the evo keeps connecting to both or something so it cant make up its mind of which tower to use. I'm stumped.
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I wouldn't say that sprint hasn't bothered to fix it. Trust me they are in the process of doing major tower upgrades, and improving their spectrum. We will see at least a 70% improvement of coverage.
Source: I'm a sprint employee
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Got any proof to back that up? Pics? Leaked Memos? etc.
AT&T is going to buy Verizon.
Source: I'm an AT&T Employee.
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I wouldn't say that sprint hasn't bothered to fix it. Trust me they are in the process of doing major tower upgrades, and improving their spectrum. We will see at least a 70% improvement of coverage.
Source: I'm a sprint employee
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all well and good, but my data speeds and network connections have been getting worse and worse and worse for several months.
unlike these other people, i won't wait any more. i've decided to pay my ETF and go back to TMo.
This entire 'we are fixing towers, sorry about that' thing has been going on consistently during my entire 1.5 year tenure. i'm done with it. when i'm standing in the middle of Manhattan and am getting 0.15mb/s down, i wonder why i am even paying my bill.
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Got any proof to back that up? Pics? Leaked Memos? etc.
AT&T is going to buy Verizon.
Source: I'm an AT&T Employee.
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This article doesn't go into too much detail but wait till tomorrow when I can pull up the page at work.
newsroom.sprint.com/press_kits.cfm?presskit_id=19
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That's not a source. lol. Sprint employees say lots of things. doesn't mean they are telling the truth or have any idea what is truely going on. They just believe all the lies they read in their emails that they are required to read and believe. Sadly you're on that believes them. lmao. So what about wimax? so tell us, are they going to fix wimax too? lol. The second they signed the deal with LTE, THEY COMPLETELY stopped upgrading towers in my city. lol. AT&T's network is much faster than Sprint. Verizon's 4g is much better than Sprints. lol.
Sure Sprint will upgrade just a little, but only to shut us up long enough to sign a new contract. lol
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This article doesn't go into too much detail but wait till tomorrow when I can pull up the page at work.
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omg. lmao. yeah, he's reading his company emails. LMAO!!!!! I can't say who I work for but I see the same emails. then I talk to the ACTUAL employees that work on the towers and they do less than 2 hours of work a week. They actually told me they know about towers that haven't worked right in a year and won't go out their and fix it. lol oh well.
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That's not a source. lol. Sprint employees say lots of things. doesn't mean they are telling the truth or have any idea what is truely going on. They just believe all the lies they read in their emails that they are required to read and believe. Sadly you're on that believes them. lmao. So what about wimax? so tell us, are they going to fix wimax too? lol. The second they signed the deal with LTE, THEY COMPLETELY stopped upgrading towers in my city. lol. AT&T's network is much faster than Sprint. Verizon's 4g is much better than Sprints. lol.
Sure Sprint will upgrade just a little, but only to shut us up long enough to sign a new contract. lol
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Of course it isn't because the real information is available on our employee intranet. 4G, 3g, and cdma networks are all getting capacity and spectrum increases.
You're the one that doesn't know what your talking about. These aren't lies or emails that we AREN'T "required" to read.
As far as Wimax goes, Sprint doesn't exactly know what they are going to do with it. They are either going get rid of it completely and use LTE. OR use both Wimax and LTE.
Unless you have anything to back up your information then I suggest you shut the f**k or take your whining somewhere else.
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omg. lmao. yeah, he's reading his company emails. LMAO!!!!! I can't say who I work for but I see the same emails. then I talk to the ACTUAL employees that work on the towers and they do less than 2 hours of work a week. They actually told me they know about towers that haven't worked right in a year and won't go out their and fix it. lol oh well.
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What I'm talking about is not company emails you idiot. It is news available on OUR employee website that has information not available to losers like you.
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Someone takes things a little too serious. Welcome to XDA.
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In the spirit of the OP, I'd like to say I'm curious to hear if you get your AIRAVE eventually, and what it takes to actually convince them to send you one.
I live in a valley where the closest Sprint tower is shamefully far away, and services a staggering number of people. Calls rarely drop, quality is fine, and data speeds are okay, but I'm lucky if my cell signal ever surpasses -96dBm. I spend so much time rubbing up against -105dBm that my Evo idles to death in about 10 hours. I compared mine to a brand new stock Evo, and they both fail equally.
So, I tried calling Sprint for an AIRAVE, and while one rep confirmed that I am indeed in a low-coverage area, everyone I spoke to after insisted that nothing's wrong and I should take my phone to the store if I think otherwise. (I'd say with my cell signal, and an average EVDO Ec/Io around -18dB, they'd have to offer me a 100k salary before I'd call my area anything BUT low-coverage.)
On that note, the first rep I spoke to warned me that only the technical support department can comp you an AIRAVE, and technical support warned me that their computers need to indicate a problem before they're allowed to do that. Also, you might want to be ready for a fight if you expect them to waive the monthly fee - I got a few 'no's about that before even being told I couldn't have an AIRAVE.
Anyway, good luck, and let us know how it goes!
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omg. lmao. yeah, he's reading his company emails. LMAO!!!!! I can't say who I work for but I see the same emails. then I talk to the ACTUAL employees that work on the towers and they do less than 2 hours of work a week. They actually told me they know about towers that haven't worked right in a year and won't go out their and fix it. lol oh well.
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Wow, cakewalk job
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bezeek said:
In the spirit of the OP, I'd like to say I'm curious to hear if you get your AIRAVE eventually, and what it takes to actually convince them to send you one.
I live in a valley where the closest Sprint tower is shamefully far away, and services a staggering number of people. Calls rarely drop, quality is fine, and data speeds are okay, but I'm lucky if my cell signal ever surpasses -96dBm. I spend so much time rubbing up against -105dBm that my Evo idles to death in about 10 hours. I compared mine to a brand new stock Evo, and they both fail equally.
So, I tried calling Sprint for an AIRAVE, and while one rep confirmed that I am indeed in a low-coverage area, everyone I spoke to after insisted that nothing's wrong and I should take my phone to the store if I think otherwise. (I'd say with my cell signal, and an average EVDO Ec/Io around -18dB, they'd have to offer me a 100k salary before I'd call my area anything BUT low-coverage.)
On that note, the first rep I spoke to warned me that only the technical support department can comp you an AIRAVE, and technical support warned me that their computers need to indicate a problem before they're allowed to do that. Also, you might want to be ready for a fight if you expect them to waive the monthly fee - I got a few 'no's about that before even being told I couldn't have an AIRAVE.
Anyway, good luck, and let us know how it goes!
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Thanks for the reply, right now it kinda blows since I had to buy skype credits in order to be able to work...
As the others said about sprint fixing their towers, we are going to be the last place... do you know why? Everywhere around the island everyone has either an iPhone from AT&T or a blackberry curve 8530 from local gsm carriers, and every time someone asks me about my cell provider, they say its crap because of their service. Sprint stores are always empty when I walk past them in the malls. People here don't see sprint as a national carrier, instead they see it as a local cdma provider.
Sprint took forever to actually begin testing WiMax here and it sucks hard, I hope they get it at full power soon when its officially announced. 3g has always sucked, there are like 5 CDMA carriers using the same towers...(Sprint,Virgin,Boost,Open Mobile,Centennial, etc) This is the cause for network overload, also I would love a data cap, maybe thats what people need in order to let others have at least 500kbps download speed.
I was about to switch to tmo...and the day I went to do so the merger wasd announced so I'm kinda stuck with sprint for now.
If you do decide to bail on Sprint, I saw a pretty hot tip in the Evo 3d section earlier that may help you.
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Yeah I saw it, its regarding some increase or something, I'm going to go check out tmo and see how much 4 android phones will cost me a month, if I get a nice comparable deal I will drop sprint.
All I had to do was call customer service, say I can't make a phone call from inside my house and it's been like this since the service started. Three days later I had an air rave, no cost to me. I didn't have to threaten or even get angry. In fact, it was one of the best customer service experiences I've ever had.
Its a chance game, you got a good rep, I got 2 dudes and 2 girls who had no idea what I wanted or an airave was...
Justice Department Blocks AT&T, T-Mobile Merger Over Antitrust Fears
WASHINGTON -- The Justice Department is blocking AT&T's $39 billion deal to buy T-Mobile USA, saying the acquisition of the No. 4 wireless carrier in the country by No. 2 AT&T would reduce competition and raise prices.
http://huff.to/p9tsxz
this is just to make it look like they put up a fight when the merger is approved.
Yes, it does not mean that the deal will not still go through.
This deal looks more and more like the Direct TV/ Dish merger more and more... and that is in no way a bad thing...
...Maybe. But i've been watching this in CNN, and that they are saying AT&T will NOT have any exclusive rights to stocks and such, etc.
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You can get most anything to go through if you make enough concessions. With 6 billion on the line ATT will do what they have to to make it go through. Its far from over
this is great. means i may not have to switch to sprint after all....
this isn't a done deal yet. It just means that the court will have to decide. And really once the lawyers get involved who knows what will happen. I just hope that att doesn't use the chewbacca defense.
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what a misleading thread title..
deathstar fail, Luke and the rebel scum live to fight another day!
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I am so happy that this is being blocked.
Here is a good read - although I would have enjoyed it more if it included a blurb on TMO's response to the 'Vibrant GPS debacle/lack of updates support' response...
Even with low prices, T-Mobile customers flee
URL -
google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5ivXdtsheWfU25wTAeJ5ZDZ07aKzg?docId=9bbecf13789248fcaf30b4234f93752c
Obviously, there's a first time for everything, but this is from an MSNBC article:
"The FCC, however, has never approved a significant takeover that the DOJ had challenged in court, an FCC official said."
Here's hoping this aquisition doesn't happen.
Agree. T-Mobile will shrink to the size of a non-factor regional carrier anyways.
Their coverage sucks. I can't wait to get rid of em soon.
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Agree. T-Mobile will shrink to the size of a non-factor regional carrier anyways.
Their coverage sucks. I can't wait to get rid of em soon.
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What the heck are you talking about? It is one... One... ONE SINGLE motive the AT&T have, to get the only bandwidth that's so robust and fast network, which would RELIVE THEM on the very busy network, congested network they have!!!! I know TONS OF PEOPLE switch from AT&T to Verizon (those iPhoney users) just get a decent network and speed from AT&T.
To free up the congested network, they need the near empty network of TMO. If that happens, the known/proven fast network we got will be shared by a million of Iphone app heavy users!!!!
I iz da XDA usah! Vibrant baby!
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What the heck are you talking about? It is one... One... ONE SINGLE motive the AT&T have, to get the only bandwidth that's so robust and fast network, which would RELIVE THEM on the very busy network, congested network they have!!!! I know TONS OF PEOPLE switch from AT&T to Verizon (those iPhoney users) just get a decent network and speed from AT&T.
To free up the congested network, they need the near empty network of TMO. If that happens, the known/proven fast network we got will be shared by a million of Iphone app heavy users!!!!
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Agreed, T-Mobile has a far faster/better network service than AT&T. I am constantly dealing with people who use AT&T saying they got no service when my T-Mobile device has 3-4 bars. One of the places I worked put steel sheets on the roof to reflect sunlight & heat in the buildings. They also used AT&T for all company phones. They all had to go outside to make a call, I didn't. At that time I had a T-Mobile Dash aka HTC Excalibur. Far from a top end phone.
I am not sure why people are fleeing tmobile. But hell it's the best in southern california for me. I have tried At and T and I always get dropped calls.
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I am not sure why people are fleeing tmobile. But hell it's the best in southern california for me. I have tried At and T and I always get dropped calls.
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I can tell you why, they don't want to be with AT&T. A lot of T-Mobile's user were AT&T customers. They are jumping ship as their contracts end. AT&T has garbage for CS. T-Mobile's is great. I've hand a couple roommates accidentally get $10 charges by those online surveys things. The Facebook game's free game credit things. Well, one simple call to T-Mobile's CS & more than $40 was credited. I just swapped out my SIM card, it took 5 Mins to do so(my old SIM was 5+ yrs old). Ex AT&T customers never want to be part of AT&T again, so they're fleeing to avoid what seemed to be inevitable.
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I am not sure why people are fleeing tmobile. But hell it's the best in southern california for me. I have tried At and T and I always get dropped calls.
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Let them. It makes our network not congested and fast.
Its funny that my coworkers that have Android (that is on AT&T), have tweaked thier build.prop to maximize their network... My buddy was so damn excited that he got 2.6 D 1.5 U, and it was his fastest yet. Tweaked mine, and had a contest with him, I topped at 5.8 D 2.1 U. He was like, "lets download something together, same file. That speedtest isn't accurate anyway..." I said ok, he chose the file, which was a mp3 file he uploaded to his dropbox, and we simultaneously downloaded it. Lets just say, I was done when he was still at 82%. Hahahaha!!!!!
I iz da XDA usah! Vibrant baby!
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I can tell you why, they don't want to be with AT&T. A lot of T-Mobile's user were AT&T customers. They are jumping ship as their contracts end. AT&T has garbage for CS. T-Mobile's is great. I've hand a couple roommates accidentally get $10 charges by those online surveys things. The Facebook game's free game credit things. Well, one simple call to T-Mobile's CS & more than $40 was credited. I just swapped out my SIM card, it took 5 Mins to do so(my old SIM was 5+ yrs old). Ex AT&T customers never want to be part of AT&T again, so they're fleeing to avoid what seemed to be inevitable.
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In my opinion, they should've waited this out, see the outcome. I'm out of contract, but I will wait till the very day TMO changes to AT&T. Since this isn't the case yet, I'll enjoy TMO.
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