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When I first got the Evo, I was getting about 900kb/sec-1.1mb/sec in my house, and ever since I've flashed these custom ROM's and new radio... The best I can get is about 300-500kb/sec... I've also noticed that my signal seems to fluctuate every couple seconds, from no signal to a full signal, which never used to happen either. I know I'm not going crazy, I just wondered if anyone else has experienced this... It's really discouraging
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i also noticee this too and ur are ABSOLUTELY right i was clockin like 1.1mb-1.5 before and im rooted using the fresh room and im at 600kb
gonna return mine, get a new one, and stick to stock... i think it broke my radio internally.
I notice slower speeds as well from my first day or so 4th and 5th. I might feel the same way you do if I didnt have my girlfriend and best friend who both got evo around the same time and are being completely stock. They both have similar speeds to me. I actually went into a Sprint store to complain and sure snuff my speeds jumped up to 700kbps downstream for the first time in almost a week right before I went in.
I am NOT happy with my 3g speeds and am borderline on canceling my contract. If it wasn't for this awesome phone and this awesome dev community I would tell Sprint to kiss my whole @$$h0le. Premium data my ass.
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I noticed better speeds after the ROM and Radio update. Speeds are highly variable and depend on a lot of factors. I doubt you damaged it by flashing, flash memory is designed to be flashed.
infamousjax said:
gonna return mine, get a new one, and stick to stock... i think it broke my radio internally.
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Just run the RUU, it will restore the original radio and everything else you think you lost. Link is here >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=685835
I have a feeling this has more to do with your local network congestion, but feel free to prove otherwise.
I've flashed the original RUU and it didn't fix it... why would my speed halve with no changed variables? It just doesn't make sense.
It's not possible that I damaged my radio by flashing the upgraded radio? And now that's why it's acting erratic and my speeds are so bad?
How fast is your 3G when you run speedtest.net?
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How fast is your 3G when you run speedtest.net?
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I just got 490 down 380 up, but my results vary wildly... again depending on network conditions and where you are connected and how many users are also connected, etc. Get a few people on the same tower that are into bittorrent and your results can be drastically different.
Some past results in my history:
780/540
949/1013
388/770
357/721
662/139
561/577
680/1013
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It's not possible that I damaged my radio by flashing the upgraded radio? And now that's why it's acting erratic and my speeds are so bad?
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Even if it is possible, your new phone will come pre-broken most likely. That radio is the official Sprint radio and if the phone has the OTA update you will have it.
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I've flashed the original RUU and it didn't fix it... why would my speed halve with no changed variables? It just doesn't make sense.
It's not possible that I damaged my radio by flashing the upgraded radio? And now that's why it's acting erratic and my speeds are so bad?
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Just because you do not know what the variables are, does not mean there are no variables.
Possible variables you are not considering.
There are 20 other people around you with new EVOs testing their speeds, tethering, and downloading like its going out of style.
Time of the day. There are peak usage times. Maybe your first test was on a low usage time.
The site you use to test your speed has become more congested recently.
There is more CDMA users around you recently. With CDMA towers, the more users per tower, the lower its radius/signal will get.
Maybe you had WiFi on the first time?
I am sure I could make up 15 more variables if I wanted to.
To ease your concerns, think of ROMs as software, and your phone as the hardware. It is very unlikely that you did damage to the hardware. Especially considering most of these ROMs are exactly like Stock minus a few Sprint apps.
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I just got 490 down 380 up, but my results vary wildly... again depending on network conditions and where you are connected and how many users are also connected, etc. Get a few people on the same tower that are into bittorrent and your results can be drastically different.
Some past results in my history:
780/540
949/1013
388/770
357/721
662/139
561/577
680/1013
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Sorry to break it to you but these are typical sprint speeds. Sprint is one of the slowest cell carriers I have ever used.
I'm not an idiot alright... I didn't have Wifi on... I know somethings screwed up with my phone, it's not in my head.
There are possibly some variables as to why my speed isn't the same as it was a week ago, but there really is no explanation that for my erratic signal.
Oh well, hopefully I can figure it out.
obviously this has nothing to do with wifi, but doesnt the EVO have 4G and cdma radio's????
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Just run the RUU, it will restore the original radio and everything else you think you lost. Link is here >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=685835
I have a feeling this has more to do with your local network congestion, but feel free to prove otherwise.
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I am close to returning my EVO. I thought that maybe one of my flashes has done something to my 3g speeds, but I ran that RUU and no luck . I am going to be going to Sprint store on Wednesday to compare.
I am in Aurora CO, I am coming from Nexus one on T-Mobile. I LOVE Evo, but hate the way sprint is. I use my phone at the gym to listen to Pandora/Slacker, can't even do it on Evo since I get such crappy 3g speeds.. Downtown Denver phone works fine, but not here... Anyways, on T-Mobile I got about 1.6mb down, and 300up most of the time.
Today, I went down to T-Mobile store and ran SpeedTest on MT3G and Evo. At the store, MT3G got 3mbps down!!!, Evo howered around 600kbps. Anyways, point is, I really am not too happy with Sprint in my area. I am sure that in other places it is fine, but it doesn't seem to be the case here. I have tried everything, even downgraded my radio, no change in results.
clubtech said:
Sorry to break it to you but these are typical sprint speeds. Sprint is one of the slowest cell carriers I have ever used.
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While I believe that maybe your experience, it does not match with results I found.
Sprint 3rd of 4.
http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/26/engadget-labs-the-best-mobile-broadband-carrier-in-america/
Sprint 1st of 3
http://gizmodo.com/5111990/boston-3g-data-test-att-sprint-and-verizon
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While I believe that maybe your experience, it does not match with results I found.
Sprint 3rd of 4.
http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/26/engadget-labs-the-best-mobile-broadband-carrier-in-america/
Sprint 1st of 3
http://gizmodo.com/5111990/boston-3g-data-test-att-sprint-and-verizon
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Once again, really depends on where you are. I have posted of my results here in Colorado, so yea...
have you tried changing the PRL's to use Verizons towers?
from my experience the only negative thing it does is break sprint TV
i felt the same way, just noticed tonight. but now that i've run a bunch more speed tests, it all averages out. no doubt all these evo's are taxing sprints network to the extreme. :/ hopefully that $10 surcharge will quickly pay for upgrades.
Well supposedly AT&T is rolling out a software fix to fix upload speeds.
Funny thing is... for a few days my upload speed was fixed.
Now all of a sudden I can't break 200kbit up again.
But iPhone4 users around me can hit 1.4Mbit up all day long.
For those of you that can not hit HSUPA speeds, I wonder if you have iPhone4 friends you can check with.
If AT&T is indeed disabling HSUPA by device or IMEI, then I want to know about it.
It seems they gimped the Captivate so it couldn't do HSUPA (read the forum) so why not screw the Nexus One users too.
I know some of you will post that your HSUPA speeds are great, but you are people that are probably not served by Lucent equipment.
If you did have upload issues, and they are now fixed, I'de like to hear about that too, maybe AT&T is doing something else funky on a per market basis where it's prioritizing crying iPhone users where it doesn't have enough HSUPA capacity or something.
EDIT: My location is Salt Lake City
-James
i suggest you also post your location as well so it ads the detail necessary to make a conclusion. of course my speeds are fine here in socal with a nexus one. no cap or upload limitation or anything yet.
Location is Salt Lake City
I test all the time with a friend of mine, we generally have the same results.
louisiana, att 3g.
Yesterday here at work in Central KY I was seeing 2/.2 mbit in Speedtest, today I'm getting 2.2/1mbit.
What's odd is 2-3 days ago, I was seeing the typical HSUPA speed but yesterday was horribly slow. Only reason I really noticed was because I was messing with wifi sharing and seeing how fast it was. Heh, just did wifi sharing, 3.7/1.2.
I've done it several times, uplink still seems weird.. One time it'll hover around .5mbit, then jump up to 1.2 for a few seconds, then back to .5. Next time I ran it it stayed at 1.2 the whole time. Next time .5 the whole time.
100% sure I'm not jumping towers, mine is very close to work. However, there's lots of folks on AT&T here at work so never know what the utilization of the tower is.
To be fair, I have to say that all of a sudden, I just posted 1405kbit up... But I doubt it will last. I would hope that whatever fix is happening will be for all users, but I am still doubting AT&T sincerity.
But I still think it's a valid question... are these AT&T upgrades targeted to fix certain devices in waves? Are others, like iPhone 4's being prioritized?
Seems weird that my phone won't break 200k, when an iPhone 4 will still break 1mbit all day long.
Could there still be prioritization going on based on device? Like say iPhone users made the news so they are getting bandwidth priority?
-James
I'm not certain why, but I've been getting abysmal upload speeds for the past few days.
I'm located near Milwaukee, WI. Last few speed tests averaged out to 1.6mbs/.34mbs.
EarthsiegeTA said:
I'm not certain why, but I've been getting abysmal upload speeds for the past few days.
I'm located near Milwaukee, WI. Last few speed tests averaged out to 1.6mbs/.34mbs.
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You could just be a victum of the HSUPA bug that AT&T claims they are in the process of fixing.
Are their any iPhone4 users around you having the same difficulty?
-James
Realistically, the only device that truly needs that fast HSUPA on at&t's network is the iPhone 4. The reason I say that is, it's currently their only device with video calling where that upload will really make a difference (besides data sticks and netbooks of course). Maybe they are randomly capping other devices uplink speed.
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Realistically, the only device that truly needs that fast HSUPA on at&t's network is the iPhone 4. The reason I say that is, it's currently their only device with video calling where that upload will really make a difference (besides data sticks and netbooks of course). Maybe they are randomly capping other devices uplink speed.
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Well that's certainly one way to look at it but consider something else.
iPhone 4 users, and all other smartphone users who pay that $30, or $25, or $15... would then not be treated fairly.
Why do I get less service for paying the same $30/month the iPhone4 user pays?
This is blatantly wrong in my opinion. I'm paying for a service the same as iPhone4 users. In fact it's suppose to be the same service, that's why I started this thread in the first place.
There are apps like Fring on the Android Market that can make use of that higher upload speed, and let's not forget that the iPhone can't make Face Time calls over 3G as of yet unless it's jail-broken.
Now if it was clearly advertised that as an iPhone4 users you were going to receive preference, then I would have had a fair chance to make the decision as to which device would provide me the best upload, all the while paying the same $30 per month.
I don't think AT&T deserves to be allowed be deceptive in such a way.
Don't you want your service you're paying for?
In fact look at AT&T's website... it clearly states...
"typical upload speeds of 500 Kbps to 1.2 Mbps on compatible devices for our current 3G network*"
and...
"*Referenced speeds require an HSDPA 3.6Mbps/HSUPA capable device with Receive Diversity and/or Equalizer. AT&T is deploying HSUPA throughout the 3G footprint, HSUPA may not currently be available in all 3G areas."
It doesn't say... "Only for special people who worship Steve Jobs", it says for HSUPA capable devices.
http://www.wireless.att.com/businesscenter/built-for-business/network.jsp
-James
I highly doubt they are capping anything.
The video calling on the iPhone is WiFi only unless you jailbreak.
That said, I've been having the same issue. In fact, I went to return my wife's Aria because she wants to see if a high end phone comes for AT&T and while there, the sales guy saw my Nexus One and we talked about it. He said if I gave him my IMEI it would communicate better with the cell towers. My phone was fine but I figured what the hell, let's try it. And **** has been unstable ever since. I do speedtest and I get 64kbps down, 1.6megs up. Or they're both under 200kbits. It's driving me crazy. I work in downtown Chicago and it's pissing me off because I'm the IT Manager for my company and I need to get emails immediately. I've come back from lunch to find out **** happened in the office but my phone's data was so slow that it couldn't sync emails.
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I highly doubt they are capping anything.
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I'm not 100% they are capping anything, but I'm putting out my observations and seeing what others experiences are.
AT&T has my IMEI number and as of this afternoon my upload has stabalized over 1mbit.
I would like this to be for all N1 users of course. Sure is wierd that my iPhone friends saw the improvement before I did.
-James
Memnoch30 said:
The video calling on the iPhone is WiFi only unless you jailbreak.
That said, I've been having the same issue. In fact, I went to return my wife's Aria because she wants to see if a high end phone comes for AT&T and while there, the sales guy saw my Nexus One and we talked about it. He said if I gave him my IMEI it would communicate better with the cell towers. My phone was fine but I figured what the hell, let's try it. And **** has been unstable ever since. I do speedtest and I get 64kbps down, 1.6megs up. Or they're both under 200kbits. It's driving me crazy. I work in downtown Chicago and it's pissing me off because I'm the IT Manager for my company and I need to get emails immediately. I've come back from lunch to find out **** happened in the office but my phone's data was so slow that it couldn't sync emails.
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I have been experiencing strange behavior as well where I am getting 1.6 (or a bit less) up and half the speed down.
Hopefully it's a symptom of implementing a fix and not a permanent situation.
EDIT: my download is highly irregular so I don't think it proves much.
-James
jmacdonald801 said:
You could just be a victum of the HSUPA bug that AT&T claims they are in the process of fixing.
Are their any iPhone4 users around you having the same difficulty?
-James
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Yeah, that's possible. I'm hoping that's what it is.
No, I don't know anyone with an iPhone 4. The only person I knew with an iPhone previous to the iPhone 4, I managed to talk into an HTC Evo.
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I'm not 100% they are capping anything, but I'm putting out my observations and seeing what others experiences are.
AT&T has my IMEI number and as of this afternoon my upload has stabalized over 1mbit.
I would like this to be for all N1 users of course. Sure is wierd that my iPhone friends saw the improvement before I did.
-James
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Maybe it just had something to do with your DNS cache or something..
Also ATT doesn't have my IMEI.
What speed test tool do you all use? I tend to get better upload results with speedtest.net than i do with xtremelabs.
just ran both.
speedtest.net app
2246 dn 949 up
2283 dn 1230 up
xtremelabs
2105 dn 393 up
1207 dn 409 up
Springfield IL
I personally use SpeedTest, but I'm getting tired of the issue with getting servers a couple states away.
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I personally use SpeedTest, but I'm getting tired of the issue with getting servers a couple states away.
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You need to allow your GPS to lock before you'll get servers closer to you.
-James
probers1 said:
What speed test tool do you all use? I tend to get better upload results with speedtest.net than i do with xtremelabs.
just ran both.
speedtest.net app
2246 dn 949 up
2283 dn 1230 up
xtremelabs
2105 dn 393 up
1207 dn 409 up
Springfield IL
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I have never had good luck with xtremelabs.
Speedtest.net usually provides more consistent results.
The company that provides it has a pretty large network for speed testing. The FCC speedtest app is provided by them, for what it's worth.
-James
I finally after 7 hours of work, got my PRI updated to 1.4 and got all my original stuff back and I am updated to the tilt with all current version of everything.
I just finished my speed tests and have found that this 1.4 PRI update has done nothing to increase my 3g speed.
Backstory:
My speed at work dropped from 1mb in June to 125kb (looks like it is capped) two weeks ago. I have done everything in my power to fix it. Nothing has worked and Sprint is not saying anything.
Hope this saves someone time and effort.
There was a tower at my house that was bad. Packet loss was in the thousands when I looked at it on my aircard. It took them over a year to fix it.
I had the same issue you did. went from good speeds to crap.
Did yours appear to be capped? My speed hits that 128kb mark and just stops, everytime.
I've had pretty much the same exact thing in my house... Went from 1mb+ on 3g to around 200-300 kbs. However, after the PRI update I am getting a slight raise in dl speed. around 500-600 now....
My signal strength is still weak and has not improved at all however, which is what I was really hoping for with the pri update....
Honestly...all of this bullsht with sprint makes me want to go back to tmobile. I left them because I was getting terrible signal strength...but i'm getting the same thing with sprint. /: at least tmobile has beast 3g speeds and the vibrant........
ahhh well. I still love my Evo.
Its a known fact that sprint is capping data.
PRI updates only affect a small percentage of users, used for when sprint brings new towers online. Chances are you have no new towers in your area.
Unfortunately, this is the wrong forum to post this, so you may get flamed.
Pri does not affect speed directly, it affects your data access times...pings. So with the new update and possibly lower pings, you will generally see faster response times in the web browser as compared to what you have had before.
Sprint doesn't cap, they throttle.
When I go over 6 gigs of data for the month, my speed tends to drastically drop off the face of the earth.
Last month alone, I used close to 8 gigs...not cool having to deal with 1X like speeds for the last week of the month.
~Jasecloud4
I now have 4g after this update
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I now have 4g after this update
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lol.... what?
I think that nearly everything people are reporting related to speed and latency with PRI can be explained by the placebo effect.
Nothing changed for me, still around 1MB... I didn't really expect anything but why not... BTW Those that are complaining about horrible signal at home address, call sprint and have them give you airave for free. I did that on my first month of service and been much happier ever since.
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I think that nearly everything people are reporting related to speed and latency with PRI can be explained by the placebo effect.
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I agree, but there is something to be said for sprint pushing/making the update available.
In any case, I've found that the sprint network can not be considered anywhere near consistent, 3g or 4g, pri 1.34 or 1.40.
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Sprint doesn't cap, they throttle.
When I go over 6 gigs of data for the month, my speed tends to drastically drop off the face of the earth.
Last month alone, I used close to 8 gigs...not cool having to deal with 1X like speeds for the last week of the month.
~Jasecloud4
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I don't know if they do throttle or maybe its a case by case thing. Last month I used 13gbs of data since this is now my primary source of internet. I still get 2-3mbps
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I think that nearly everything people are reporting related to speed and latency with PRI can be explained by the placebo effect.
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+1 agreed.
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damn, i am lucky to get 100-300kb/sec
i dont think anyone ever expected to get better speeds, ie; 500kb/sec to 1mb/sec
better latency is many times better than a faster connection.
v_lestat said:
damn, i am lucky to get 100-300kb/sec
i dont think anyone ever expected to get better speeds, ie; 500kb/sec to 1mb/sec
better latency is many times better than a faster connection.
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Yup. You can download however fast you want but if you can't connect to the server itself in a timely manner then that fast down speed doesn't really matter.
jasecloud4 said:
Sprint doesn't cap, they throttle.
When I go over 6 gigs of data for the month, my speed tends to drastically drop off the face of the earth.
Last month alone, I used close to 8 gigs...not cool having to deal with 1X like speeds for the last week of the month.
~Jasecloud4
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I have to see what I used in July, probably 2g...however, my speed didn't pick up when August hit. Anyway, I just posted this because I saw the instruction thread on the PRI was closed. Well, I will just keep calling Sprint and telling them my work zip code sucks now.
I can confirm there is no 3G speed difference between PRI 1.40_003 & 1.34_003 as I have run speedtest.net on my wife's unrooted Evo and mine simultaneously. Our speeds are similar and also similarly vary between 200 - 1100 kbps while driving from downtown San Francisco heading north for 20 minutes or so.
I'm guessing poor 3G speeds are determined by specific tower and load - but definitely not by PRI version.
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No difference here and it broke the prl hack i use to get evdo service. I reverted back to eng build and all is good again. Minus the 7 hours of pri fix attempts.
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I currently have Sprint for my Hero and its modded and such and I love it... but while I might try to get an upgrade to another phone I will still have this Hero. I was considering putting it on MetroPCS and giving it to the lady or something.
What are the typical speeds using MetroWEB. Apparently it lists as 3G but everyone ive read about states that the speeds are much too slow to even be considered that.
Just some locations with actual speed tests would be such valuable information to me... If anyone can post such I would appreciate it greatly. Thanks.
So this happens quite a lot.
I'm on the Play Store, for example, downloading a 20mb app. It jumps from 0 to like 10mb downloaded very fast, and then it turns to molasses, like 30kb every 2 seconds.
On speedtest.net app, it jumps up to 20mbps, then slows to 2.
Why the hell does this happen???!!!
Tethering is also very slow.
Nope, IPv6 didn't fix it.
Bump.
No one else has this problem? I would like to know so that I can chalk it up to a defective device before my return period is over.
Or is this a T-Mobile screw-you that many of us have to deal with?
I have personally not seen any drastic speed changes with my LTE (D802), but i do see my bars drop alot, but that might just be my coverage. About 2 weeks ago i was using a 3G network, so anything above 2 is way faster for me. Might want to take it into the store, so they can have a look at it.
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I have personally not seen any drastic speed changes with my LTE (D802), but i do see my bars drop alot, but that might just be my coverage. About 2 weeks ago i was using a 3G network, so anything above 2 is way faster for me. Might want to take it into the store, so they can have a look at it.
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Thanks for your input. I'm going to take it in; I just wanted to know other people's perspectives. If no one else is running into the issue, then it's probably just a sim card or defective device problem, which would reassure me that a new phone will probably fix it.
If many others are experiencing the same problem, then it's more problematic because it points to T-Mobile screwing people over with false "unlimited high speed data" in good-coverage areas.
Okay, so I just ran a few speed tests, got 30ms ping, 25 down and 11 up, and I did not seem to get any drops. My guess is that there is a problem with your unit. Good luck getting a replacement (Don't know if i should be ironic with that last one)
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Okay, so I just ran a few speed tests, got 30ms ping, 25 down and 11 up, and I did not seem to get any drops. My guess is that there is a problem with your unit. Good luck getting a replacement (Don't know if i should be ironic with that last one)
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Thanks for testing!
I don't think it will be a problem. I just got it last week. Should still be good on return-window.
I don't know who your carrier is or where you have seen this occur, but Verizon has acknowledged that in "big cities" their LTE infrastructure is overcrowded and some traffic will downgrade to 3G or 2G. They have promised to resolve the issue by the end of the year. We'll see.
Mine seems to do this a lot especially when tethering, and now starts to drop calls I assumed this was to do with EE in uk