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When I first got the Evo, I was getting about 900kb/sec-1.1mb/sec in my house, and ever since I've flashed these custom ROM's and new radio... The best I can get is about 300-500kb/sec... I've also noticed that my signal seems to fluctuate every couple seconds, from no signal to a full signal, which never used to happen either. I know I'm not going crazy, I just wondered if anyone else has experienced this... It's really discouraging
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i also noticee this too and ur are ABSOLUTELY right i was clockin like 1.1mb-1.5 before and im rooted using the fresh room and im at 600kb
gonna return mine, get a new one, and stick to stock... i think it broke my radio internally.
I notice slower speeds as well from my first day or so 4th and 5th. I might feel the same way you do if I didnt have my girlfriend and best friend who both got evo around the same time and are being completely stock. They both have similar speeds to me. I actually went into a Sprint store to complain and sure snuff my speeds jumped up to 700kbps downstream for the first time in almost a week right before I went in.
I am NOT happy with my 3g speeds and am borderline on canceling my contract. If it wasn't for this awesome phone and this awesome dev community I would tell Sprint to kiss my whole @$$h0le. Premium data my ass.
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I noticed better speeds after the ROM and Radio update. Speeds are highly variable and depend on a lot of factors. I doubt you damaged it by flashing, flash memory is designed to be flashed.
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gonna return mine, get a new one, and stick to stock... i think it broke my radio internally.
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Just run the RUU, it will restore the original radio and everything else you think you lost. Link is here >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=685835
I have a feeling this has more to do with your local network congestion, but feel free to prove otherwise.
I've flashed the original RUU and it didn't fix it... why would my speed halve with no changed variables? It just doesn't make sense.
It's not possible that I damaged my radio by flashing the upgraded radio? And now that's why it's acting erratic and my speeds are so bad?
How fast is your 3G when you run speedtest.net?
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How fast is your 3G when you run speedtest.net?
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I just got 490 down 380 up, but my results vary wildly... again depending on network conditions and where you are connected and how many users are also connected, etc. Get a few people on the same tower that are into bittorrent and your results can be drastically different.
Some past results in my history:
780/540
949/1013
388/770
357/721
662/139
561/577
680/1013
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It's not possible that I damaged my radio by flashing the upgraded radio? And now that's why it's acting erratic and my speeds are so bad?
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Even if it is possible, your new phone will come pre-broken most likely. That radio is the official Sprint radio and if the phone has the OTA update you will have it.
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I've flashed the original RUU and it didn't fix it... why would my speed halve with no changed variables? It just doesn't make sense.
It's not possible that I damaged my radio by flashing the upgraded radio? And now that's why it's acting erratic and my speeds are so bad?
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Just because you do not know what the variables are, does not mean there are no variables.
Possible variables you are not considering.
There are 20 other people around you with new EVOs testing their speeds, tethering, and downloading like its going out of style.
Time of the day. There are peak usage times. Maybe your first test was on a low usage time.
The site you use to test your speed has become more congested recently.
There is more CDMA users around you recently. With CDMA towers, the more users per tower, the lower its radius/signal will get.
Maybe you had WiFi on the first time?
I am sure I could make up 15 more variables if I wanted to.
To ease your concerns, think of ROMs as software, and your phone as the hardware. It is very unlikely that you did damage to the hardware. Especially considering most of these ROMs are exactly like Stock minus a few Sprint apps.
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I just got 490 down 380 up, but my results vary wildly... again depending on network conditions and where you are connected and how many users are also connected, etc. Get a few people on the same tower that are into bittorrent and your results can be drastically different.
Some past results in my history:
780/540
949/1013
388/770
357/721
662/139
561/577
680/1013
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Sorry to break it to you but these are typical sprint speeds. Sprint is one of the slowest cell carriers I have ever used.
I'm not an idiot alright... I didn't have Wifi on... I know somethings screwed up with my phone, it's not in my head.
There are possibly some variables as to why my speed isn't the same as it was a week ago, but there really is no explanation that for my erratic signal.
Oh well, hopefully I can figure it out.
obviously this has nothing to do with wifi, but doesnt the EVO have 4G and cdma radio's????
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Just run the RUU, it will restore the original radio and everything else you think you lost. Link is here >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=685835
I have a feeling this has more to do with your local network congestion, but feel free to prove otherwise.
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I am close to returning my EVO. I thought that maybe one of my flashes has done something to my 3g speeds, but I ran that RUU and no luck . I am going to be going to Sprint store on Wednesday to compare.
I am in Aurora CO, I am coming from Nexus one on T-Mobile. I LOVE Evo, but hate the way sprint is. I use my phone at the gym to listen to Pandora/Slacker, can't even do it on Evo since I get such crappy 3g speeds.. Downtown Denver phone works fine, but not here... Anyways, on T-Mobile I got about 1.6mb down, and 300up most of the time.
Today, I went down to T-Mobile store and ran SpeedTest on MT3G and Evo. At the store, MT3G got 3mbps down!!!, Evo howered around 600kbps. Anyways, point is, I really am not too happy with Sprint in my area. I am sure that in other places it is fine, but it doesn't seem to be the case here. I have tried everything, even downgraded my radio, no change in results.
clubtech said:
Sorry to break it to you but these are typical sprint speeds. Sprint is one of the slowest cell carriers I have ever used.
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While I believe that maybe your experience, it does not match with results I found.
Sprint 3rd of 4.
http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/26/engadget-labs-the-best-mobile-broadband-carrier-in-america/
Sprint 1st of 3
http://gizmodo.com/5111990/boston-3g-data-test-att-sprint-and-verizon
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While I believe that maybe your experience, it does not match with results I found.
Sprint 3rd of 4.
http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/26/engadget-labs-the-best-mobile-broadband-carrier-in-america/
Sprint 1st of 3
http://gizmodo.com/5111990/boston-3g-data-test-att-sprint-and-verizon
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Once again, really depends on where you are. I have posted of my results here in Colorado, so yea...
have you tried changing the PRL's to use Verizons towers?
from my experience the only negative thing it does is break sprint TV
i felt the same way, just noticed tonight. but now that i've run a bunch more speed tests, it all averages out. no doubt all these evo's are taxing sprints network to the extreme. :/ hopefully that $10 surcharge will quickly pay for upgrades.
Well supposedly AT&T is rolling out a software fix to fix upload speeds.
Funny thing is... for a few days my upload speed was fixed.
Now all of a sudden I can't break 200kbit up again.
But iPhone4 users around me can hit 1.4Mbit up all day long.
For those of you that can not hit HSUPA speeds, I wonder if you have iPhone4 friends you can check with.
If AT&T is indeed disabling HSUPA by device or IMEI, then I want to know about it.
It seems they gimped the Captivate so it couldn't do HSUPA (read the forum) so why not screw the Nexus One users too.
I know some of you will post that your HSUPA speeds are great, but you are people that are probably not served by Lucent equipment.
If you did have upload issues, and they are now fixed, I'de like to hear about that too, maybe AT&T is doing something else funky on a per market basis where it's prioritizing crying iPhone users where it doesn't have enough HSUPA capacity or something.
EDIT: My location is Salt Lake City
-James
i suggest you also post your location as well so it ads the detail necessary to make a conclusion. of course my speeds are fine here in socal with a nexus one. no cap or upload limitation or anything yet.
Location is Salt Lake City
I test all the time with a friend of mine, we generally have the same results.
louisiana, att 3g.
Yesterday here at work in Central KY I was seeing 2/.2 mbit in Speedtest, today I'm getting 2.2/1mbit.
What's odd is 2-3 days ago, I was seeing the typical HSUPA speed but yesterday was horribly slow. Only reason I really noticed was because I was messing with wifi sharing and seeing how fast it was. Heh, just did wifi sharing, 3.7/1.2.
I've done it several times, uplink still seems weird.. One time it'll hover around .5mbit, then jump up to 1.2 for a few seconds, then back to .5. Next time I ran it it stayed at 1.2 the whole time. Next time .5 the whole time.
100% sure I'm not jumping towers, mine is very close to work. However, there's lots of folks on AT&T here at work so never know what the utilization of the tower is.
To be fair, I have to say that all of a sudden, I just posted 1405kbit up... But I doubt it will last. I would hope that whatever fix is happening will be for all users, but I am still doubting AT&T sincerity.
But I still think it's a valid question... are these AT&T upgrades targeted to fix certain devices in waves? Are others, like iPhone 4's being prioritized?
Seems weird that my phone won't break 200k, when an iPhone 4 will still break 1mbit all day long.
Could there still be prioritization going on based on device? Like say iPhone users made the news so they are getting bandwidth priority?
-James
I'm not certain why, but I've been getting abysmal upload speeds for the past few days.
I'm located near Milwaukee, WI. Last few speed tests averaged out to 1.6mbs/.34mbs.
EarthsiegeTA said:
I'm not certain why, but I've been getting abysmal upload speeds for the past few days.
I'm located near Milwaukee, WI. Last few speed tests averaged out to 1.6mbs/.34mbs.
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You could just be a victum of the HSUPA bug that AT&T claims they are in the process of fixing.
Are their any iPhone4 users around you having the same difficulty?
-James
Realistically, the only device that truly needs that fast HSUPA on at&t's network is the iPhone 4. The reason I say that is, it's currently their only device with video calling where that upload will really make a difference (besides data sticks and netbooks of course). Maybe they are randomly capping other devices uplink speed.
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Realistically, the only device that truly needs that fast HSUPA on at&t's network is the iPhone 4. The reason I say that is, it's currently their only device with video calling where that upload will really make a difference (besides data sticks and netbooks of course). Maybe they are randomly capping other devices uplink speed.
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Well that's certainly one way to look at it but consider something else.
iPhone 4 users, and all other smartphone users who pay that $30, or $25, or $15... would then not be treated fairly.
Why do I get less service for paying the same $30/month the iPhone4 user pays?
This is blatantly wrong in my opinion. I'm paying for a service the same as iPhone4 users. In fact it's suppose to be the same service, that's why I started this thread in the first place.
There are apps like Fring on the Android Market that can make use of that higher upload speed, and let's not forget that the iPhone can't make Face Time calls over 3G as of yet unless it's jail-broken.
Now if it was clearly advertised that as an iPhone4 users you were going to receive preference, then I would have had a fair chance to make the decision as to which device would provide me the best upload, all the while paying the same $30 per month.
I don't think AT&T deserves to be allowed be deceptive in such a way.
Don't you want your service you're paying for?
In fact look at AT&T's website... it clearly states...
"typical upload speeds of 500 Kbps to 1.2 Mbps on compatible devices for our current 3G network*"
and...
"*Referenced speeds require an HSDPA 3.6Mbps/HSUPA capable device with Receive Diversity and/or Equalizer. AT&T is deploying HSUPA throughout the 3G footprint, HSUPA may not currently be available in all 3G areas."
It doesn't say... "Only for special people who worship Steve Jobs", it says for HSUPA capable devices.
http://www.wireless.att.com/businesscenter/built-for-business/network.jsp
-James
I highly doubt they are capping anything.
The video calling on the iPhone is WiFi only unless you jailbreak.
That said, I've been having the same issue. In fact, I went to return my wife's Aria because she wants to see if a high end phone comes for AT&T and while there, the sales guy saw my Nexus One and we talked about it. He said if I gave him my IMEI it would communicate better with the cell towers. My phone was fine but I figured what the hell, let's try it. And **** has been unstable ever since. I do speedtest and I get 64kbps down, 1.6megs up. Or they're both under 200kbits. It's driving me crazy. I work in downtown Chicago and it's pissing me off because I'm the IT Manager for my company and I need to get emails immediately. I've come back from lunch to find out **** happened in the office but my phone's data was so slow that it couldn't sync emails.
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I highly doubt they are capping anything.
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I'm not 100% they are capping anything, but I'm putting out my observations and seeing what others experiences are.
AT&T has my IMEI number and as of this afternoon my upload has stabalized over 1mbit.
I would like this to be for all N1 users of course. Sure is wierd that my iPhone friends saw the improvement before I did.
-James
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The video calling on the iPhone is WiFi only unless you jailbreak.
That said, I've been having the same issue. In fact, I went to return my wife's Aria because she wants to see if a high end phone comes for AT&T and while there, the sales guy saw my Nexus One and we talked about it. He said if I gave him my IMEI it would communicate better with the cell towers. My phone was fine but I figured what the hell, let's try it. And **** has been unstable ever since. I do speedtest and I get 64kbps down, 1.6megs up. Or they're both under 200kbits. It's driving me crazy. I work in downtown Chicago and it's pissing me off because I'm the IT Manager for my company and I need to get emails immediately. I've come back from lunch to find out **** happened in the office but my phone's data was so slow that it couldn't sync emails.
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I have been experiencing strange behavior as well where I am getting 1.6 (or a bit less) up and half the speed down.
Hopefully it's a symptom of implementing a fix and not a permanent situation.
EDIT: my download is highly irregular so I don't think it proves much.
-James
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You could just be a victum of the HSUPA bug that AT&T claims they are in the process of fixing.
Are their any iPhone4 users around you having the same difficulty?
-James
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Yeah, that's possible. I'm hoping that's what it is.
No, I don't know anyone with an iPhone 4. The only person I knew with an iPhone previous to the iPhone 4, I managed to talk into an HTC Evo.
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I'm not 100% they are capping anything, but I'm putting out my observations and seeing what others experiences are.
AT&T has my IMEI number and as of this afternoon my upload has stabalized over 1mbit.
I would like this to be for all N1 users of course. Sure is wierd that my iPhone friends saw the improvement before I did.
-James
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Maybe it just had something to do with your DNS cache or something..
Also ATT doesn't have my IMEI.
What speed test tool do you all use? I tend to get better upload results with speedtest.net than i do with xtremelabs.
just ran both.
speedtest.net app
2246 dn 949 up
2283 dn 1230 up
xtremelabs
2105 dn 393 up
1207 dn 409 up
Springfield IL
I personally use SpeedTest, but I'm getting tired of the issue with getting servers a couple states away.
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I personally use SpeedTest, but I'm getting tired of the issue with getting servers a couple states away.
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You need to allow your GPS to lock before you'll get servers closer to you.
-James
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What speed test tool do you all use? I tend to get better upload results with speedtest.net than i do with xtremelabs.
just ran both.
speedtest.net app
2246 dn 949 up
2283 dn 1230 up
xtremelabs
2105 dn 393 up
1207 dn 409 up
Springfield IL
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I have never had good luck with xtremelabs.
Speedtest.net usually provides more consistent results.
The company that provides it has a pretty large network for speed testing. The FCC speedtest app is provided by them, for what it's worth.
-James
Before i even bought this phone i called att and asked point blank if i bought this phone would faster data speeds? The person "said" she looked at a map and said i was in hspda coverage speeds area. So i bought the attic about 10 days ago and since then I have gotten horrible data download speeds. I talked to att and even went into the store again asking about their supposed hspda/ higher data speed network, and got every response from " yourselves need to change to a 4g sim card", to "there is no point at all to buy a hspda/4g phone right no matter where you are". But iam getting pretty much the same data speeds as my tilt2. So the last time I went to the store they said that only the 4g phones, inspire, iphone 4, and the attic could get the higher hspda/4g data speeds, so I thought maybe it is guess worth it if later I will get higer data speeds, because it is a pretty nice phone, ill give it that. But I aS looking at the specs of the htc tilt 2, and it says it also supports HSPDA speeds. I think now I have pretty much heard every lie att can tell someone.!
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Before i even bought this phone i called att and asked point blank if i bought this phone would faster data speeds? The person "said" she looked at a map and said i was in hspda coverage speeds area. So i bought the attic about 10 days ago and since then I have gotten horrible data download speeds. I talked to att and even went into the store again asking about their supposed hspda/ higher data speed network, and got every response from " yourselves need to change to a 4g sim card", to "there is no point at all to buy a hspda/4g phone right no matter where you are". But iam getting pretty much the same data speeds as my tilt2. So the last time I went to the store they said that only the 4g phones, inspire, iphone 4, and the attic could get the higher hspda/4g data speeds, so I thought maybe it is guess worth it if later I will get higer data speeds, because it is a pretty nice phone, ill give it that. But I aS looking at the specs of the htc tilt 2, and it says it also supports HSPDA speeds. I think now I have pretty much heard every lie att can tell someone.!
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Spell check would have made that easier to read.
I agree... I had a hard time trying to understand the OP...
That said, keep in mind that there are many factors that affect DL speeds... your location, the time of day, the alignment of Jupiter and Mars (LOL), etc... Also there is another post where ATT admits to having the HSUPA disabled right now and that they will turn it on in the future, whatever that means... Taking that into account, perhaps you're in an area where they are still attempting to upgrade HSDPA speeds and haven't even started the backhaul crap. I dunno.
If you aren't happy with the phone send it back before it's too late. If you are happy with it EXCEPT the DL speed, maybe its the phone... Do you have an ATT store you can go to and compare your unit with a display unit to determine? Take all this with a grain of salt; I'm usually full of it. Good luck.
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Hey guys, currently have a gingerbreak stock N1 that's been getting really low upload speeds. Averages about 200kb/s over 3g, even with really good signal. 2-3mb/s download speeds with 125 ping and I still get such low upload speeds.
I wouldn't be making such a fuss over this if it wasn't for the fact that I had 1+mb/s upload speeds just a month ago. The last time I used speedtest.net app I had over 1mb/s upload speed, but now it won't go over 200kb/s.
Anyone else experiencing this? I think I have a reasoning, but not sure if there's much merit behind it.
So when the Motorola Atrix came out, I bought it on contract, used it for a bit, and returned it since I was unsatisfied. When I returned the phone, the sales associate asked me what phone I was using now, after I returned the Atrix. I told him it was the N1 and that was it. Previous to signing the contract for the Atrix, AT&T had no idea what phone I had. But now that they do, I'm afraid they might be doing something on their end to affect my upload speeds like they do to all of their Android phones.
So that just leaves me to ask you guys, is anyone else experiencing this? Do you think AT&T is behind this garbage? Or do you think this is a hardware problem? Thanks guys.
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Hey guys, currently have a gingerbreak stock N1 that's been getting really low upload speeds. Averages about 200kb/s over 3g, even with really good signal. 2-3mb/s download speeds with 125 ping and I still get such low upload speeds.
I wouldn't be making such a fuss over this if it wasn't for the fact that I had 1+mb/s upload speeds just a month ago. The last time I used speedtest.net app I had over 1mb/s upload speed, but now it won't go over 200kb/s.
Anyone else experiencing this? I think I have a reasoning, but not sure if there's much merit behind it.
So when the Motorola Atrix came out, I bought it on contract, used it for a bit, and returned it since I was unsatisfied. When I returned the phone, the sales associate asked me what phone I was using now, after I returned the Atrix. I told him it was the N1 and that was it. Previous to signing the contract for the Atrix, AT&T had no idea what phone I had. But now that they do, I'm afraid they might be doing something on their end to affect my upload speeds like they do to all of their Android phones.
So that just leaves me to ask you guys, is anyone else experiencing this? Do you think AT&T is behind this garbage? Or do you think this is a hardware problem? Thanks guys.
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Didnt they just get caught limiting the upload on the atrix and others just recently? They said they were gonna put out "patches" to fix the problems. Sounds like they are just limiting it all-around
What ROM are you using? Cause sometimes the ROM will change your build.prop from hsxpa=3 back to 2. Check your build prop and make sure that line is correct, cause if not upload will be capped at 384kbps.
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What ROM are you using? Cause sometimes the ROM will change your build.prop from hsxpa=3 back to 2. Check your build prop and make sure that line is correct, cause if not upload will be capped at 384kbps.
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He's using "gingerbreak stock N1"
I understand the 4g wont work but I just want to get the phone, 2g internet, mms, and texting to work. everything but 4g... how do I do this? Thanks
bumb, please really need help with this. Thanks!
Currently there is nothing you can flash to get it running on anything but Sprint.
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As far as I know, metro has 1x and 4g. There's no in between. I've watched people with 1x android and blackberry phones and their internet experience is painfully slow. Other than bragging rights, I don't see any practical or usefulness of putting one of these phones on their network. I'm guessing that if there ever was a software update for the phone, you'd have to find a version that has been hacked to work on metro. That's a lot of work for someone only to get dial up like speeds.
Do what you want. I think your money, time and effort would be better spent getting a high end android phone that's actually for metro's network and be able to enjoy all they have to offer instead of a crippled nexus s.
actually metro is beginning to roll out 3g
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actually metro is beginning to roll out 3g
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Who says? Link???
employee intel
sorry i dont have screen shots or anything of the sort..
I know there is a way.. people do it for $60 bucks off Craigslist... Just have to figure out how they do it..