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IPhone rips off Android!

Pull down notifications!!! Obviously Apple is running out of ideas. The thing that pisses me off the most, is now every iPhone user I meet will act like Apple thought of it and say Android is a cheap rip off. ZOMG!! Apple (and their sheep like followers) makes me hate humans!!
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1wingangel said:
Pull down notifications!!! Obviously Apple is running out of ideas. The thing that pisses me off the most, is now every iPhone user I meet will act like Apple thought of it and say Android is a cheap rip off. ZOMG!! Apple (and their sheep like followers) makes me hate humans!!
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Wait a minute...
When did Apple NOT buy someone else's patent or take their idea and sell it as "revolutionary?"

Not sure if trolling....
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Maybe Google should sue Apple like Apple is suing Samsung for coping.

ItsLasher said:
Maybe Google should sue Apple like Apple is suing Samsung for coping.
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Some companies actually spend more time developing rather than suing.

Welcome to last week
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mattykinsx said:
Some companies actually spend more time developing rather than suing.
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Apple does both all the time,ha
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Interesting IOS 5 Beta time to upgrade my ipod touch 4th gen now i have a reason to take it out of my drawer still not as good as android though

It kind of pissed me off, all the trash talk Jobs does about android, but in the end its apple following the ideas and trends android sets ie: Hummer sized phones, notifications, cloud, front camera, 3d screen, etc.

Apple just added it so they can sue Google like they do with every other company it rips stuff off from.

LexLuger82 said:
Apple does both all the time,ha
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All big companies do, give me one that doesn't!

vbetts said:
All big companies do, give me one that doesn't!
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Apple seems to be doing this quute excessively. Its seems like their legal department is board.

phatmanxxl said:
Apple seems to be doing this quute excessively. Its seems like their legal department is board.
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Sony for the Ps3, almost all the major movie studios, Nokia, Samsung, Microsoft, etc etc all are sue crazy. Sad truth here though...

So apple sues HTC for how their notification system works, using them as a proxy to sue Google and Android, and then they turn around and steal Android's way of showing notifications?
I would not put it past them to try and copyright it too.

vbetts said:
All big companies do, give me one that doesn't!
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Companies have to engage in lawsuits once in a while....believe it or not...once in a while they are actually just.
However, Apple seems to do it once a day.
And it always seems to be in situations like this.
I'm with xhausx, it wouldn't surprise me if they put this in and then try to sue others for having "stole" it.

U guys most have forgot apple hired a bunch of people who helped make android almost a year ago now, and guess what one of those people was the guy who basically came up with androids notification system. Google needs to stop being such pansies and sue apple. this is diffenetly stealing.
I find it funny that all these companies talk crap about android then go ahead and hire the founding developers. First rim then wp7 and now apple, stealing devs and androids os features.
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God can't the IPhone and Android just coexist?
IPhone is an awesome device... Ushured in the Smartphone era to the masses. Still the smoothest most elegant interface in the industry. A work of art,....as are Ipods and Mac's. Ton of respect for those products. Give credit where credit is due.
Android remains my OS of choice for various reasons.

rockky said:
God can't the IPhone and Android just coexist?
IPhone is an awesome device... Ushured in the Smartphone era to the masses. Still the smoothest most elegant interface in the industry. A work of art,....as are Ipods and Mac's. Ton of respect for those products. Give credit where credit is due.
Android remains my OS of choice for various reasons.
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Blah blah blah...listen...it's not that the two OS's can't co-exist.
In fact, it has NOTHING TO DO with the two OS's to begin with.
It has to do with Steve Jobs' attitude toward everything.
Everything he does is "revolutionary"
Everything everyone else does is "copying"
and worst of all
He think he "knows what's best" for people.
I don't even care about the OS, I won't even buy Apple products because of Apple's stance on everything.
I have my own parents [including the government now too] I don't need another one.

rockky said:
God can't the IPhone and Android just coexist?
IPhone is an awesome device... Ushured in the Smartphone era to the masses. Still the smoothest most elegant interface in the industry. A work of art,....as are Ipods and Mac's. Ton of respect for those products. Give credit where credit is due.
Android remains my OS of choice for various reasons.
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I just threw up...
Screw apple and Steve Jobs. I hate that man, such a pompous pr*ck
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Apple=sleazy tactics

http://mobile.osnews.com/story.php/25048/Apple_Blocks_Sales_of_Samsung_Galaxy_Tab_10_1_in_EU
So... they make extremely generic designs, patent them, and wait until someone releases a product that remotely looks like it so they can sue the balls off you. This. Angered me beyond belief.
Your thoughts? Insanity. Wtf seriously. I can't believe I was an apple fanboy at one point in my life. I feel like I was in cahoots with Hitler.
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C'mon, let the big boys compare their penises.

Dud apple is evil. This is the first Ive ever heard of this being done. I mean cmon? Making all sorts of designs and getting patents. These people are evil. I feel bad for Samsung. The extent of apples capitalist tactics are insane. I think Sammy has underestimated how disgustingly horrid apple runs they're business. At this point, I would cut apple off from all sales of parts for they're phones and tablets. When the hand your feeding is stealing you're food, you cut them off. Simple. The iphone would fail without samsungs parts. I don't think apple realizes that.
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free enterprise market kids. I see nothing wrong here, move among. Move along.
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Ughh i need a Sammich to calm me down.

There spawn trappin us
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RushAOZ said:
Dud apple is evil. This is the first Ive ever heard of this being done. I mean cmon? Making all sorts of designs and getting patents. These people are evil. I feel bad for Samsung. The extent of apples capitalist tactics are insane. I think Sammy has underestimated how disgustingly horrid apple runs they're business. At this point, I would cut apple off from all sales of parts for they're phones and tablets. When the hand your feeding is stealing you're food, you cut them off. Simple. The iphone would fail without samsungs parts. I don't think apple realizes that.
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*their
Also,
"When the hand your feeding is stealing you're food, you cut them off."
*you're and *your
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If you feel something is not right here, then the one to blame is the patent agency that granted Apple the patents. If a company invests time and money in an invention and gets a legal document guaranteeing it the right to be the sole producer of that invention, then it's not the company's fault that it chose to defend that right. In fact, if a company does not vigorously defend its IP, it runs the risk of losing it (anyone remember the "there are two r's in Xerox campaign?).
I'm not familiar with the specific patents, but most of what I'm reading are complaints, like the OP's, that the patents are too vague. If so, the patents shouldn't have been granted and the agency in Europe responsible for making that decision erred. If the patents are appropriate, then it's Apple's right to protect its intellectual property.
I'm sick of the patent wars, but Apple is just playing by the rules it has been given.

Ironically, many of the people who complain about vague patents have never actually read through a complete patent file. Usually all they see is a one line summary quoted by whatever tech blog they visited that day and assume that one line is the entire patent. If anything, patent rage is too often just a product of fanboyism, and not rational thought.
The only people who think patents shouldn't exist are people who've never invented anything. They're just consumers who are too emotionally attached to their interest in technology and feel that the courts can never possibly do anything beneficial ever for anything.
There's also a kneejerk reaction from the anarchy of the tech community to shut anyone up who tries to see all sides of an issue. We've decided that patent law is a war of good vs. evil and any other way of looking at it is wrong.
Do Samsung products look more like iDevices than any other Android vendor? Probably. Is it really THAT hard to come up with a unique form factor? Or drop TouchWiz? Or something other than glossy plastic? There's a whole world of trivial design variations that could've avoided the 'similarity' mess that Samsung actively ignored. Ah well.
It's not like this generation of Android tablets is all that impressive anyway.
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Welcome to the world of patent trolling.

If you guys think that's bad, read this article.
http://www.androidcentral.com/apple...bout-motorola-xoom-design-may-seek-injunction

This is what happens when you're playing catch-up.
Shoulon said:
There spawn trappin us
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That's funny.

Apple=sleazy tactics.... Ya think??? remember the smear camaigns they did on Vista? I firmly beleve that APPLE is the reason Vista did as bad as it did any why everyone hates it so much. Granted, it wasn't the best OS in history as it was a 'bit' bloated and slow, but overall, it wasn't THAT bad... Almost all the 'problems' with it was HARDWARE VENDORS not releasing decent drivers for it. I ran it from the time it was a RC until 7 was a RC and never had any trouble with it. Hell, I had more problems with Windows XP Tablet Edition (SP2 & 3) on my HP TC4400 than I ever did with Vista, even when it was a RC. 7 is WAY better, but Vista wasn't a miserable failure (unlike Win Me). Ever heard of the Mojave Experiment? MS took Vista, re-labled it "Windows Mojave" and had people check it out. Almost everyone LOVED the "new" OS... only to be shocked when they were told it was actually Vista.
Apple is a miserable POS company and I'd LOVE to see them go bankrupt and dissapear off the face of this planet, along with their crappy 'OS' and devices, but unfortunately that's not going to happen due to all the kool-aid drinkers.
Beofer you hate on me for calling their 'OS' crappy, MS's oses might be crappy, but at least you can do things with them. Good luck trying to do anything outside the "apple box" on a mac....

Just reading that article was enough to make me rage out. I've always thought that apple used terrible tactics and produced sub-par products. This patent stuff is just pure ignorance on the part of the patent office and the judicial system. the fact that apple was granted patent rights to a folder icon or something similar is ludicris. If I was able to patent everything I made to say tweak my computer or alter my webpage, then I would have a whole lot of things I could sue people over.
Apple already has the market cornered in a lot of places because people are mindless zombies who will pay an extra $500 for a computer so that it can run their "sleek amazing Operating system" ("cough cough" basically linux "cough cough"). Apple doesn't make hardware except in special cases, and their OS is limiting on what you can do to configure it as well as the access you can obtain using it but people use it because it "looks good". I guess that's all that matters right? Paying an extra $500 dollars for a computer that is aesthetically pleasing. Hell, apple will have you think they invented multitasking and copy and paste. I guarantee they would try to sue some one for that as well.
Its all just corporatism at its best. Stuff like this is what makes the free market economy a cut throat place to work in.

I hate Apple. I've been doing my part to talk people out of buying iPhones and anything Apple. I don't like how everything of theirs is completely locked down and you have to play by their rules. Hardly any customization.
When it comes to this kind of stuff, it just makes me sick. Yea, it's legal but it's just wrong how they can get away with stuff like this.
There's nothing we little people can do other then try and turn anyone we can away from iPhones and Apple Products.

I think Samsung is kinda infringing on designs that look similar to iPhones or iPads, but kinda hard not to. Maybe if they change the color from black to, idk, grey or green or something, & they had a patent for that, they would be better off. But everyone knows that black is a more common & neutral color for electronic devices. Hopefully, Samsung & Apple will settle this problem like gentlemen & not like 2 little kids fighting over a toy.
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misterlee622 said:
... they had a patent for that...
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Reading this made me think Apple's new slogan should be "There's a patent for that."

I don't have a problem with Apple suing Sammy over patent infringement. Patents and copyrights are the basis for creativity and ingenuity. Apple developed a great product (whether we like it or not) and got patents on many of the features and components of their product. If other companies want to copy/steal their intellectual rights to those features and components, I think Apple is well within their rights to stop those companies.

@edonnelly, I lol'd and agree on that slogan :>
running_the_dream said:
I don't have a problem with Apple suing Sammy over patent infringement. Patents and copyrights are the basis for creativity and ingenuity. Apple developed a great product (whether we like it or not) and got patents on many of the features and components of their product. If other companies want to copy/steal their intellectual rights to those features and components, I think Apple is well within their rights to stop those companies.
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QFT, but surely you must see that Apple is abusing the legal system. The amount of lawsuits, and the reasons for them, are utterly absurd. Rules keep order, but abusing loopholes can cause more chaos than having no rules at all. Fu** Apple
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They're suing over design likeness, at least in the EU. Basically they say no one can have a thin, rectangular tablet with a black face. That is why they've gone after Samsung and Motorola. It would be humorous if they go after HTC for their non-black faced tablet, ha ha.

Ahhh Android...

I had to come on here to read some stuff about android since the tech news sites are all over crapple today. Although I wish that stupid thread about switching to a sprint I phone wasn't here... Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out blow Jobs.
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cool story brah

This is why xda sucks anymore.
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Yes, apple is not my idea of a phone, as it's rather wimpy and lacking!
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LyndenP said:
This is why xda sucks anymore.
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Because people [like you] make threads that are completely pointless and try to get responses and fights out of people?
Yeah, you're right about that one.

LyndenP said:
I had to come on here to read some stuff about android since the tech news sites are all over crapple today. Although I wish that stupid thread about switching to a sprint I phone wasn't here... Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out blow Jobs.
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A guy takes a failing company and turns it into one of the most powerful companies in the world. He then gets cancer is now probably dying from it and all this ass hole can do is say that. Nice. I don't expect nice words, I really don't have much of a opinion myself but show some damn respect to a dying man by not saying anything.

Award Tour said:
A guy takes a failing company and turns it into one of the most powerful companies in the world. He then gets cancer is now probably dying from it and all this ass hole can do is say that. Nice. I don't expect nice words, I really don't have much of a opinion myself but show some damn respect to a dying man by not saying anything.
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Yes, Jobs did a lot for Apple and its not his fault that people like their products

You folks are funny. Seriously it was commentary on how every freaking story on cnet or engadget or whatever was about Jobs stepping down. Fools I tell you.
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It's a guy stepping down as ceo of a company. Don't worship false idols.
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LyndenP said:
It's a guy stepping down as ceo of a company. Don't worship false idols.
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Nobody is "worshiping" any one.
He's one of the founders of personal computers.
He took Apple to a completely new level.
Not sure what your deal is guy. Need some of this:

phistyle said:
Yes, Jobs did a lot for Apple and its not his fault that people like their products
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Actually it is. Once he came back after getting the boot, he transformed apple, and is directly responsible for people liking their products.
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It's a guy stepping down as ceo of a company. Don't worship false idols.
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He is a very smart man who made devices for the masses. Without the iproducts, there would (most likely) be no android. So thank you Steve Jobs for everything.

Award Tour said:
A guy takes a failing company and turns it into one of the most powerful companies in the world. He then gets cancer is now probably dying from it and all this ass hole can do is say that. Nice. I don't expect nice words, I really don't have much of a opinion myself but show some damn respect to a dying man by not saying anything.
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you mad brah? need a hug? I mean seriously everytime someone says something about Apple you go ape ****. GTFO of the Evo forums if you love Apple products so much. I read your **** about the Macbook Pro and how you dogged others because they could "not" afford" a Macbook Pro. Personally I dont give a **** about Apple, never have and never will.. Last Apple product I used was an Apple II from years ago.
However I am not saying I dont like Apple, nor do I hate Apple, I just dont give a **** about Apple because of what it has made people like "YOU" become. Total assholes no matter where you go.

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you mad brah? need a hug? I mean seriously everytime someone says something about Apple you go ape ****. GTFO of the Evo forums if you love Apple products so much. I read your **** about the Macbook Pro and how you dogged others because they could "not" afford" a Macbook Pro. Personally I dont give a **** about Apple, never have and never will.. Last Apple product I used was an Apple II from years ago.
However I am not saying I dont like Apple, nor do I hate Apple, I just dont give a **** about Apple because of what it has made people like "YOU" become. Total assholes no matter where you go.
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No my problem is with idiots. In this case it's the idiot who is talking **** about a guy who stepped down because of his most likely pending death due to cancer. All he could do was bad mouth the guy, and for what? Because he is the CEO of a company that competes with the company of a product he bought! That's just freaking sad. If a family member of his falls ill due to cancer I don't think they'd want anyone to treat them with any type of disrespect.
That thing about Macbooks? Its not about not being able to afford a Mac, it's about acting like they are worthless or don't present some kind of value for the added price. It's a different market with different consumers. Again, my problem is with a few specific idiots who fail to see the obvious or use common sense.

Steve Jobs transformed a failing company into what is known as Apple today. His health has suffered throughout the years, but he stayed with Apple and continued to make appearances. That is commendable at the very least.
Sure, I disagree with the way that Apple handles patent issues and locking down software. And claiming "revolutionary" things that have been done before. They do make good pieces of hardware though, even though I could never use an iPhone because of a small screen.The hardware is overpriced, but it is quality work and works well for what it is designed for. I don't have a Mac, as I am not some wealthy kid, but my experiences have been positive with them.
Apple helped kicked off a massive technological race. I disagree with the way the company handles software and patents, yes, but it is still a good company. Obviously it is doing well financially.
I will never switch to iPhone because of small screen and software, but it isn't that bad a piece of hardware. To each his own, choose whatever they want. Options are always good.
And Steve Jobs deserves commendation for making a successful company and sticking through it even while sick.
I'm 16, make minimum wage and only a sophomore. Let us try to be reasonable about this.

tazman1963 said:
Yes, apple is not my idea of a phone, as it's rather wimpy and lacking!
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Agreed. My friend who has an iphone cant wait to switch to an Android when her plan is up. I think most people famously live by "never satisfied".

What op was trying to say kind of lame all that was on the news was jobs which I agree resepct to the dieing **** but kinda dumb to see tons of articles plastered about apple
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tropicalbrit said:
Steve Jobs transformed a failing company into what is known as Apple today. His health has suffered throughout the years, but he stayed with Apple and continued to make appearances. That is commendable at the very least.
Sure, I disagree with the way that Apple handles patent issues and locking down software. And claiming "revolutionary" things that have been done before. They do make good pieces of hardware though, even though I could never use an iPhone because of a small screen.The hardware is overpriced, but it is quality work and works well for what it is designed for. I don't have a Mac, as I am not some wealthy kid, but my experiences have been positive with them.
Apple helped kicked off a massive technological race. I disagree with the way the company handles software and patents, yes, but it is still a good company. Obviously it is doing well financially.
I will never switch to iPhone because of small screen and software, but it isn't that bad a piece of hardware. To each his own, choose whatever they want. Options are always good.
And Steve Jobs deserves commendation for making a successful company and sticking through it even while sick.
I'm 16, make minimum wage and only a sophomore. Let us try to be reasonable about this.
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I could no have said it better my self young sir. Well done, well done.
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cev2387 said:
I could not have said it better my self young sir. Well done, well done.
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tropicalbrit said:
Steve Jobs transformed a failing company into what is known as Apple today. His health has suffered throughout the years, but he stayed with Apple and continued to make appearances. That is commendable at the very least.
Sure, I disagree with the way that Apple handles patent issues and locking down software. And claiming "revolutionary" things that have been done before. They do make good pieces of hardware though, even though I could never use an iPhone because of a small screen.The hardware is overpriced, but it is quality work and works well for what it is designed for. I don't have a Mac, as I am not some wealthy kid, but my experiences have been positive with them.
Apple helped kicked off a massive technological race. I disagree with the way the company handles software and patents, yes, but it is still a good company. Obviously it is doing well financially.
I will never switch to iPhone because of small screen and software, but it isn't that bad a piece of hardware. To each his own, choose whatever they want. Options are always good.
And Steve Jobs deserves commendation for making a successful company and sticking through it even while sick.
I'm 16, make minimum wage and only a sophomore. Let us try to be reasonable about this.
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You sir are have the maturity level of an old man lol. Good to see somebody throw some input into the situation as opposed to the usual trolls I'm accustomed to seeing around these parts now a days.
Well put indeed...
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Samsung will sue Apple immediately if they release an LTE enabled iPhone 5.

Wow, look at that:--
Samsung confirmed it will sue Apple immediately if it releases an LTE device. This seems directed squarely at the new iPhone as currently the iPad does sell with LTE on board. Obviously, this legal case is just a start of a huge change, not the end of anything.
Considering Apple iPhone 5 is almost certain to come with LTE on board, let's see what happens.
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Samsung will sue Apple immediately if they release an LTE device

The Empire will strike back. And if i were Samsung i would partner with Nokia which currently has the most LTE patents and cross licence pattents with them just to bring the rotten fruit down.

Every company out there should team up and sue apple.....apple is literally killing innovation
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If Google, Motorola, Samsung and HTC join forces to attack Apple, there is practically no chance of survival for Apple.
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Is anyone else alarmed by the statements that Google and Samsung are distancing themselves away from each other? Even if this is just for the patent stuff could it not leave a bitter taste in each others mouths?

I'm quite happy for Apple to innovate, but if they want to do it over everyone else's dead body, they can f-off .... and die themselves.

Arsaw said:
If Google, Motorola, Samsung and HTC join forces to attack Apple, there is practically no chance of survival for Apple.
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Google owns Motorola

shaggydabbydo said:
I'm quite happy for Apple to innovate,
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Uhm, stopped reading after this. Have they ever innovated anything? Taking something previously done, adding their touches to it, patenting every aspect of it and releasing it to the world saying they have innovated; really isn't innovating.
Sometimes, they also try to alter the original recipe to even further claim they've innovated, when they've still not. Can there be a more pathetic excuse of a company than Apple?

jithendra194 said:
Every company out there should team up and sue apple.....apple is literally killing innovation
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Not really. Look at Windows Mobile phones. They are totally different from iPhone both on OS and phone design. If you want to innovate you can. If you want to steal Apple's ideas, you can do that too, but there's obviously a price for that.

Windows mobile it a innovation of poo. Apple ios5 and 6 are full of stolen android ideas.
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aydc said:
Not really. Look at Windows Mobile phones. They are totally different from iPhone both on OS and phone design. If you want to innovate you can. If you want to steal Apple's ideas, you can do that too, but there's obviously a price for that.
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Yeah, pay 1billion and become 2nd biggest mobile device manufacturer in the world. Why not?
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Theshawty said:
Uhm, stopped reading after this. Have they ever innovated anything? Taking something previously done, adding their touches to it, patenting every aspect of it and releasing it to the world saying they have innovated; really isn't innovating.
Sometimes, they also try to alter the original recipe to even further claim they've innovated, when they've still not. Can there be a more pathetic excuse of a company than Apple?
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Apple has innovated by the actual definition. Same for Samsung and others.

The good thing about all this is other manufacturers are forced into becoming Patent Trolls to Patent stuff they wouldn't usually bother with just to keep Apple's hands off it, and that's gonna mean Apple has less power and they won't be able to use these Bully Boy tactics anymore.

jithendra194 said:
Every company out there should team up and sue apple.....apple is literally killing innovation
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A very eloquent statement. And very true. I can't believe apple defects to suing rather than innovating. It saddens me. I used to like the iPhone. I believe it has helped the market grow like never before, but not any more. Silly apple. Innovation is for mature companies. Haha.
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onmike said:
Apple has innovated by the actual definition. Same for Samsung and others.
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Okay, I admit, they actually have innovated. They are the first company to ever be so darn retarded.

aydc said:
If you want to innovate you can. If you want to steal Apple's ideas, you can do that too, but there's obviously a price for that.
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Yeah, and Apple really innovated with concepts such as... "a rectangular device with rounded corners and a flat surface."
The really frightening thing is that they managed to actually get a patent for that. I'm usually very proud to be an American, but the US Patent Office is a huge disgrace to the country.

hahaha...its gonna be interesting!!

yatezy said:
Is anyone else alarmed by the statements that Google and Samsung are distancing themselves away from each other? Even if this is just for the patent stuff could it not leave a bitter taste in each others mouths?
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it never will, samsung is one of the major contributors for android.. sometimes its better to keep mum rather than pledge the support and get into trouble

jithendra194 said:
Every company out there should team up and sue apple.....apple is literally killing innovation
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As far as I know the Galaxy S3 hasn't been the subject of any lawsuit so far, so clearly the fact that Samsung innovated with the S3 rather than copy Apple shows.
Innovation isn't copying another company. Here's an example of innovation:
Apple buys Siri and includes it with every iPhone 4S, putting it into the hands of millions.
Google, rather than copying, creates their own "knowledge graph" and builds something better; something that responds incredibly quickly, accurately, and reads most answers out loud back to the user in a really easy to understand, human voice. This is innovation.
Samsung, on the other hand, created something that looks like Siri, tries to act like Siri, pulls data from the same sources (Wolfram Alpha + others) and is a hell of a lot slower. It was basically a complete failure all around.
Google has managed to pretty much avoid any problems with Android so far by creating their own innovative features. Samsung has done this for the most part in the S3, but there's still a hint of copying there, especially with S Voice as I have stated above.
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Theshawty said:
Uhm, stopped reading after this. Have they ever innovated anything? Taking something previously done, adding their touches to it, patenting every aspect of it and releasing it to the world saying they have innovated; really isn't innovating.
Sometimes, they also try to alter the original recipe to even further claim they've innovated, when they've still not. Can there be a more pathetic excuse of a company than Apple?
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Taking something that exists and making it better is still innovating. Taking multiple things that exist and combining them together to create something much better is innovating (S Beam for example)

garyd9 said:
Yeah, and Apple really innovated with concepts such as... "a rectangular device with rounded corners and a flat surface."
The really frightening thing is that they managed to actually get a patent for that. I'm usually very proud to be an American, but the US Patent Office is a huge disgrace to the country.
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Maybe Apple will sue brick making companies for breaking Apple's design guidelines.

Note, Note 10.1 and GS3 added to Apple litigation

See http://www.engadget.com/2012/08/31/apple-samsung-galaxy-s-iii-galaxy-note-patent-lawsuit/
I'm not a patent lawyer, so I'm not going to comment on the validity of the case, but the US does seem like a hostile place for a non US company that competes with Apple.

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Feel sorry for us citizens ... I doubt samsung lauches any other product there... apple's stupidity its Just hurting their people... their products are Just a piece of crap... and they wont get any android market person by getting samsung out of game
I dont see chevy or ford suing toyota or ferrari because toyota and ferrari cars has engines and 4 wheels... plain retard
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but did anyone patent the form of a car?
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but did anyone patent the form of a car?
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This time it's not about rectangles with rounded corners but some stupid software patents such as slide to unlock and auto-completion. That's pretty sad but I'm surely happy for not living in america, it would suck to only have apple products to choose from.

nztechblog said:
but did anyone patent the form of a car?
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For me the question is why did Apple get patents of such simple things in the first place?? Why not get a patent for the letter A and every time someone uses an A ..........
I am NOTE amused.

There's one that covers clicking on a number from an email to open a dialler. Having to do away with such simple things will render them super powerful dummy phones.
Also v happy to be in Europe over this.
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pjfriend said:
There's one that covers clicking on a number from an email to open a dialler. Having to do away with such simple things will render them super powerful dummy phones.
Also v happy to be in Europe over this.
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i thought this feature was there long time even in early windows mobile times

So did I. Either it's a refinement of the idea or they're trying to claim a patent on an idea kicking around from before they started thinking about making phones.
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We have to take into consideration two different things here. First Apple has every right to defend it's patents. Everyone of us would do the same if we had valid patents and someone would infringe on them. The one thing that's wrong here isn't exactly Apples behaviour, that's completely legitimate. The problem is the US patent law. E.g. Apple holds a patent for clicking on phone numbers in e-mails to directly call it. They successfully sued HTC because they had infringed on that patent. The question is not whether it's right or wrong to sue, it's law, it's their right to do so. The question is: Why on earth were they able to get this patent? My first WM Smartphone had been able to do that long before the Iphone was available. Why is it possible in the US to patent something which has clearly not been invented by the person/ company who/ that is claiming the patent because the corresponding technology/ software/ whatever existed long before the patent application is filed? That's the real issue here. Most of Apple's patents are no inventions but old technologies that have been improved/ optimized by Apple. To every sane person it should be clear that you cannot patent something you have not invented. And if you use and/ or improve an existing technology which isn't protected by patents you are free to do so but it should also be clear that you cannot patent the outcome because your product is based on something you have not invented and thus is simply not yours. It's not right to claim the invention of someone else for yourself. That should not be protected by the law.
One addition concerning software. E.g. you should not be granted patents for gestures which have been known to mankind for thousends of years (pinch to zoom...), the only thing that's new about it is the fact that the gesture is used with a touchscreen. But the code should be protected. So if someone writes his own code to enable pinch to zoom that's alright but if he uses your code that's infringement. But patenting things like gestures, scrollbars, icon grids, click to call... is just insane. Only imagine what situation we would be in now if it had been possible to patent breaks, breaking lights, steering wheels, seats, seatbelts, windscreens... There would not be many different cars because it would not be possible to build one without infringing on the owners patents. Those things had all been whell known when the car was invented, the only thing new about it was using them to build cars. And that's exactly what Apple has been doing. They used existing technologies to build the Iphone.
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Agree with altae. But I dislike Apple more and more now. I just don't like being told what I should buy. And I want more options, not less. I can say with pride that I've NEVER bought any apple products. They're overpriced, communist design sucks

Overpriced is right. In parts of Asia, those Iphone 4s can cost over $1000usd. That's a lot of money for re branded Samsung hardware, running ios.
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no wonder they have money than the US government ..i guess they will be the one who buy the us assets ..so you can imagine the whol eof the USA owned and ruled by an apple bite !!!

Lol... I don't even. Can't wait for Samsung to say f**k you apple, make your own damn hardware. In fact they should just refuse to let them use whatever hardware samsung made for the iPhone 5. That'd screw things up. Unfortunately its not that simple
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i thought this feature was there long time even in early windows mobile times
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It was. Only problem is that Apple patented it.

Only time will tell now with aos v ios as google is stepping into the mix by launching a lawsuit against apple based on software similarities. The drop down menu was firstly seen on win mobile yet aos patent it first and then was included in the ios 4.
The whole samsung issue came with sammy not renewing its hardware contract with apple.
The problem is it will only affect the consumer of devices that are more powerful. As apple wont make drastic changes to their product rather adding an S to the back of things that are already released.
U have to give them credit in some regard due to changing the smartphone world for all
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Reynaldinho111 said:
Lol... I don't even. Can't wait for Samsung to say f**k you apple, make your own damn hardware. In fact they should just refuse to let them use whatever hardware samsung made for the iPhone 5. That'd screw things up. Unfortunately its not that simple
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Samsung won't tell apple to f**k off, because they make far more money from delivering hardware to apple than they lost in court.
And on a side note, allthough i find the decision incorrect, maybe that is a good thing, samsung loosing this battle.
It is a kick that will make them create even better devices than before.
And as for apple, they are simply way behind the competition, so their only way of fighting back is by suing other companies.
We don't have to worry though, time will wash away apple, they cannot stand the combined assault of android devices

pjfriend said:
There's one that covers clicking on a number from an email to open a dialler. Having to do away with such simple things will render them super powerful dummy phones.
Also v happy to be in Europe over this.
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Patent law dictates non-obviousness. Most functions were already there, or there were apps for it in Windows.
A they shouldnt have gotten a lot of patents anyways. Patent granters were sleeping.
B The jury spend to little time on validity of Apples claims. Some patent trials have gone on for years, and here in 3 days they go throught 200, plain bullsh*#t
Only good that can come of this is Samsung/competitors tighter on innovation side. Which is a good thing.
That and offering side loading functionality throught apps that add the functionality. Either way Apple is screwed in long run if it wants to continue to innovate. Closed vs open, is like dictators vs the free world. Free world always wins , in long run anyways.
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