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I'm returning my Xoom, and I'd just like to thank all the devs for their hard work. I'm returning it since I'm not very happy with what Motorola's doing, with (still) no working SDCard. I know Tiamat does that, but my Xoom just ate up an SDCard Also, I'm not as impressed with Tegra 2 as I thought I would be, so that's basically why.
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Are you planning on getting a different tablet now?
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Definitely, but not now. I'm probably getting something Tegra 3, which is coming out probably in a few months. Also, I'm sorta mad at Google for not releasing Honeycomb Source, which severely hinders what we can do with development. I know that it isn't the fault of the devs; hell, we still got BRD's rom, but we didn't get as much development as I thought.
Well asus seem to have released 3.1 code so im not sure it's Google's fault ?
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Well asus seem to have released 3.1 code so im not sure it's Google's fault ?
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That's the kernel source, which Asus have to supply as it is GPL code.
It isn't the Honeycomb source.
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I'm returning my Xoom, and I'd just like to thank all the devs for their hard work. I'm returning it since I'm not very happy with what Motorola's doing, with (still) no working SDCard. I know Tiamat does that, but my Xoom just ate up an SDCard Also, I'm not as impressed with Tegra 2 as I thought I would be, so that's basically why.
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Same here. I hated to return my Xoom but now I am trying out the Samsung Tab 10.1.
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I'm returning my Xoom, and I'd just like to thank all the devs for their hard work. I'm returning it since I'm not very happy with what Motorola's doing, with (still) no working SDCard. I know Tiamat does that, but my Xoom just ate up an SDCard Also, I'm not as impressed with Tegra 2 as I thought I would be, so that's basically why.
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I also really loved the Motorola Xoom, but with it not officially supporting the microSD card I exchanged it and got the SGT 10. So far I really liking the SGT 10 feel and though it doesn't have some of the features I had on the Xoom or a MicroSD card slot. I will be keeping the SGT 10 as my 10" tablet.
Im also be selling mine. Its not about motorola that im dissapointed. its honeycomb. It just seems like no dev cares about it, not even google update theyre own apps to honeycomb. The market place for honeycomb is broken since day 1. Apps that i was interested in are region locked...(books,earth,maps navigation,video).
I was happy with my android phone even with 2.1 because apps that i like worked fine.Thats why i thought buying an android tablet with the latest firmware will be my next step but i was wrong.
At first i didnt like the ipad (it just looks like a big ipod) but they have apps that works, no region lock on books, music, videos , the game library is interesting... all those things that i forgot why did i choose android.
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I'm returning my Xoom, and I'd just like to thank all the devs for their hard work. I'm returning it since I'm not very happy with what Motorola's doing, with (still) no working SDCard. I know Tiamat does that, but my Xoom just ate up an SDCard Also, I'm not as impressed with Tegra 2 as I thought I would be, so that's basically why.
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Thanks for voiding the warranty, shortening the life span and then when custom software didnt work for you, returning the product. Those of us in the retail industry really appreciate it
I have both the XOOM and the Galaxy Tab 10.1.
After using the Galaxy Tab 10.1 my appreciation for the XOOM has increased tremendously. For whatever reason, the XOOM is smoother and more responsive - significantly so. Everything about the XOOM from build quality, to SD slot (at least it has one that can be made to work) seems better to me on the XOOM. And charging times on my GTAB 10.1 are horrific. I spend more time charging it than using it.
Oh, and something a lot of people seem not to have considered: for movie playback you are locked into the 4GB limit again with the GTAB 10.1 which means you are forced to limit the bit rate of your movies to make them fit. You can use as high a bit rate as you want on the XOOM as long as you store your movie on internal storage which has no 4GB limit. This means that many of the movies that you converted for your XOOM may not be usable on the GTAB 10.1 if they exceeded 4GB and you may be forced to re-encode them.
Only major advantage with the GTAB 10.1 is the screen, and to lesser degree the weight - and honeslty, unless you're an absolute movie buff, the XOOM screen is pretty good despite all the criticism.
I think a lot of the complaining is an excuse to aquire a new toy.
No, I won't be getting the Asus or the Samsung, mostly for the same reasons as why I'm returning my Xoom. It's mainly because I'm not happy with Tegra 2 (that Samsung Exynos is pretty awesome IIRC) and that it's worth the wait of maybe 3 months.
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No, I won't be getting the Asus or the Samsung, mostly for the same reasons as why I'm returning my Xoom. It's mainly because I'm not happy with Tegra 2 (that Samsung Exynos is pretty awesome IIRC) and that it's worth the wait of maybe 3 months.
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No argument here. Tegra 2 is so bad it has made me re-think my choice of graphics processor in my PC - makes me start to doubt NVIDIA's quality in other devices. Just hope Kal El isn't another disaster. Really wish there were more choices. I think if Samsung had gone with Exynos and an SD slot, it would have swept the market. Ironically, they may have stuck with Tegra so they could support Tegra games and Netflix DRM. And we still haven't gotten Netflix anyway.
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No argument here. Tegra 2 is so bad it has made me re-think my choice of graphics processor in my PC - makes me start to doubt NVIDIA's quality in other devices. Just hope Kal El isn't another disaster. Really wish there were more choices. I think if Samsung had gone with Exynos and an SD slot, it would have swept the market. Ironically, they may have stuck with Tegra so they could support Tegra games and Netflix DRM. And we still haven't gotten Netflix anyway.
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Well there isn't many other choices atm for those who want a tablet NOW. I'm thinking about selling mine for $400 around Christmas for a newer tablet. My next tablet will atleast have the ability to play any video file I throw at it without conversion.
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I also really loved the Motorola Xoom, but with it not officially supporting the microSD card I exchanged it and got the SGT 10. So far I really liking the SGT 10 feel and though it doesn't have some of the features I had on the Xoom or a MicroSD card slot. I will be keeping the SGT 10 as my 10" tablet.
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I hope you like your new tablet, but this makes no sense. How does returning a device because it doesn't have support for thesd card help if you replace it with a device that doesn't have an sd card slot?
That's kinda like cutting off your feet because your shoes don't fit.
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No argument here. Tegra 2 is so bad it has made me re-think my choice of graphics processor in my PC - makes me start to doubt NVIDIA's quality in other devices. Just hope Kal El isn't another disaster. Really wish there were more choices. I think if Samsung had gone with Exynos and an SD slot, it would have swept the market. Ironically, they may have stuck with Tegra so they could support Tegra games and Netflix DRM. And we still haven't gotten Netflix anyway.
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What's so bad about tegra 2?
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What's so bad about tegra 2?
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Lack of games
Try throwing 720p anime/movies on any t2 tablet..
I have a xoom and love it but I can't turn a blind eye to the issues that it has.
I love my xoom, and it does what I expected it to do when I bought it. Does Motorola suck at software updates, yes. We all knew this from any other moto phone. That's why Google is good. Also, I have never noticed a shortage of devs on xoom. On games, well I have patience, there are more and more cool games released every day. The screen, well it is not perfect, but capable, same as the tegra chip.
So in short, I see how some may be disappointed, but in all reality, they shouldn't be. (unless they were not very smart and bought a 4g tablet, then you have every right to be disappointed about the lack of an upgrade)
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gotta return mines by July 11th, really gonna miss it and the developers have been the only reason i kept it this long. I'm sure their strong work is the reason many have held on to the Xoom.
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Lack of games
Try throwing 720p anime/movies on any t2 tablet..
I have a xoom and love it but I can't turn a blind eye to the issues that it has.
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Honeycomb is a new os and needs time to gain alot of apps aand games.
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The only valid argument in this thread about returning a xoom is the lack of support for other country with many google service, and this is not google fault it's company who are enforcing drm to the limit.
As for the sd issue, it will get fixed soon, I can understand an early adopter to be pissed off but if he managed to wait until now it's a matter of week now.
out of topic but I have a panasonic blue ray that have netflix installed, but it doesn't work in my country, can you believe this...
The screen on my unit is quite nice, not sure why some people complain.. so far I am happy with the xoom so I keep it, I have a 3 month return windows with costco, I will evaluate my option by then but so far it's a keeper!
hi everyone , ive just bought my motorola xoom mz604 , and i think its awesome because android honeycomb is really good OS, it is fast and smooth
but iam having some problems with installing apps, and i realized that most of them aren't compitable with the xoom, like the android games hawx, assassins creed and modern combat 2...
anyways i just wanted to know the adv and dis-adv of my device from an expert
thnx =)
sorry for my bad english
Answering the question in your title, the xoom IS good... very good, in fact. Sure there are a few apps here and there that do not work, but for the most part, everything runs fine. Additionally, the new scaling option in 3.2 ensures that more apps are functional. I simply love the beauty and elegance of honeycomb, and I still find the xoom to be my preferred method to obtain the honeycomb experience. Plus, being Google's reference HC device, we get all of the updates first.
I like it
3.1/3.2 is brill for emulators too when you connect up a ps3 controller via usb!
Im thinking of returning my tab for the xoom thoughts?
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Im thinking of returning my tab for the xoom thoughts?
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What about the Galaxy Tab displeases you and makes you want to switch to the Xoom? They are about even on features and such, with the Galaxy being slightly lighter and thinner.
Ummmm. Its the "google dev" device. With that said...
Moto is a horrible company
The xoom 3g has turned into the last tab to recieve updates
Still no promised 4g
Sd support is only soso...
I would recommend a samsung device...the xoom is a bastardized piece of hardware. Go with a device that is "popular" thus will be supported more....not the xoom
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...the xoom is a bastardized piece of hardware. Go with a device that is "popular" thus will be supported more....not the xoom
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I couldn't disagree more, but to each his own...
I'm plenty happy with mine, just a wifi though and no cell network model. That, honestly, is probably the issue with slow updates just like it is for my epic: the company that runs the network it's attached to wants to manage its stuff (aka install crap and extra 'features') and is slowing down the process. Sprint is HORRIBLE with this.
As for why I chose the xoom over others - part of it was price, it was the $400 32gb wifi model off woot.com. Second was that it has actual ports on it (micro-usb, mini-hdmi, etc) and not some proprietary jack *cough*galaxytab*cough* that you need to hook up some dorky dongle to in order to get a usb port.
I'm pissed that the Xoom 3.2 update only let's you read the SD card but not write. That's ass backwards to me.
I have to root this thing to get that basic feature. I think they still haven't figured out the issue that devs figured out. Other than that I like it and apps are slowly starting to catch up.
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Like most of the respondents to this thread, I have been very happy with my Xoom. I have had the chance to play about with most of its major rivals in the 10 inch space (The Transformer and the Iconia and a 7 inch Tab) and while each has pros and cons (and nearly identical tech specs), I prefer the Xoom for several reasons...
The build quality is excellent. The device feels solid and durable while also giving off a sense of luxury. Most people who have handled it have commented on how "high-end" the Xoom feels.
As a Google experience device (thanks to special ordering a US model), the Xoom has the best chance of the current crop of tablets to run Ice Cream Sandwich well in a few months.
The XDA community for the Xoom is the best developed of the current slew of tablets with many excellent developers and plenty of other users willing to help and guide you (and "gently" remind you when you are being an idiot).
I like the design of the Xoom, with the power button recessed on the gently curved back. The placement works well for me and I prefer it to having the power button on the front of the edge of the tablet.
Those are my reasons for choosing the Xoom as the first amongst equals, but as always, ymmv. I suggest you find a store with demo models of most brands and see which one feels right to you.
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What about the Galaxy Tab displeases you and makes you want to switch to the Xoom? They are about even on features and such, with the Galaxy being slightly lighter and thinner.
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I like vanilla android and dont want touchwiz or the crap apps itll have
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Plus no sd slot and only one port
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I like vanilla android and dont want touchwiz or the crap apps itll have
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Fair Enough. Touchwiz might be able to be disabled when it comes out but maybe not. The xoom comes with a bit of crapware itself, dungeon defender and cordy are the ones that come to mind though there may be more.
It would not be worth the cost to me but to each his own. You could probably find a xoom owner who is fed up with Motorola enough to do a trade.
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I totally agree with you. I bought mine with a $100 off coupon from staples. I initially wanted to buy the tranformer now looking back I dont regret my purchase. Love my xoom.
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Like most of the respondents to this thread, I have been very happy with my Xoom. I have had the chance to play about with most of its major rivals in the 10 inch space (The Transformer and the Iconia and a 7 inch Tab) and while each has pros and cons (and nearly identical tech specs), I prefer the Xoom for several reasons...
The build quality is excellent. The device feels solid and durable while also giving off a sense of luxury. Most people who have handled it have commented on how "high-end" the Xoom feels.
As a Google experience device (thanks to special ordering a US model), the Xoom has the best chance of the current crop of tablets to run Ice Cream Sandwich well in a few months.
The XDA community for the Xoom is the best developed of the current slew of tablets with many excellent developers and plenty of other users willing to help and guide you (and "gently" remind you when you are being an idiot).
I like the design of the Xoom, with the power button recessed on the gently curved back. The placement works well for me and I prefer it to having the power button on the front of the edge of the tablet.
Those are my reasons for choosing the Xoom as the first amongst equals, but as always, ymmv. I suggest you find a store with demo models of most brands and see which one feels right to you.
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I hope it's good Mine should be here tomorrow
I just exchanged the tab must say i like the xoom better and i already have a spare 16gb sd
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I totally agree with you. I bought mine with a $100 off coupon from staples. I initially wanted to buy the tranformer now looking back I dont regret my purchase. Love my xoom.
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I second that
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4g is coming in sept. Per verizon
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Good, solid hardware.
Mine was rooted 5 minutes out of the box, so I have had SD R/W since day one.
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I'm pissed that the Xoom 3.2 update only let's you read the SD card but not write. That's ass backwards to me.
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I had to fiddle around with the formatting in order to make it work, but I know the problem you had and eventually got around it. Try ntfs, fat, or whatever - just mess around with it in your computer until you find one that it likes. I forget offhand what made mine happy.
Im on the edge right now of buying a tab or waiting for the the tegra 3 tablets. What do you guys think? While I had the transformer I had a lot of lag and it didnt seem like a laptop internet experience. So is the tab better or should I wait for tegra 3 which is coming soon?
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Im on the edge right now of buying a tab or waiting for the the tegra 3 tablets. What do you guys think? While I had the transformer I had a lot of lag and it didnt seem like a laptop internet experience. So is the tab better or should I wait for tegra 3 which is coming soon?
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It depends... If you can live without tab, then you can wait for coming soon tablets if not grab this one. TW is what rocks on this tab. Also, I'm sure you have 14 days to get familiar with the tab before returning it, until you are buying from Costco, that gives you 90 days (pretty much you can exchange it with whatever latest comes in that period)
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Im on the edge right now of buying a tab or waiting for the the tegra 3 tablets. What do you guys think? While I had the transformer I had a lot of lag and it didnt seem like a laptop internet experience. So is the tab better or should I wait for tegra 3 which is coming soon?
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I have an Asus TF, which I think is a fantastic multi-purpose device. However, I also bought a GT 10.1 at the end of last week, and to be brutally honest, it is a far better pure tablet than the TF. That's not to knock the TF, because it still has a lot of advantages over the GT 10.1, but I think Samsung have done a very good job producing top notch hardware and coupling it with intelligently modified software.
In my opinion (and that's all this is), Android 3.1 with Touchwiz is provides a better experience than Android 3.2 on the TF. I never felt that my TF was the sort of device I could give my parents (I even got my mum an iPad), but the GT 10.1 is definitely something I could recommend to a non-techy.
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I would have to agree ive had the tf from day 1 yesterday the speakers blew so its rma for return. However on my break i popped out and got a tab and have to say i love it. It just seems more mature and touchwiz actually compliments the tab when the tf gets back it will be on fleabay
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Why don't you try going Cold Turkey for a week or two (go Tabless) and see if you miss it, if you don't miss it then just bide your time and wait for Tegra 3. Otherwise, get yourself the GT.
I returned my Transformer and then rejected the replacement as it was no better, that's not to say that there aren't good one's out there though.
I looked at all the available Tabs and in the end decided to wait for the Samsung, sure it lacks the ports that others have, but I'm now very happy with my decision. I've had a few annoyances along the way, but hey if I didn't like fiddling with devices then perhaps I'd have gone the non Android route.
Just keep in mind that the "quality" Tegra 3 devices are still MONTHS away from shipping...and the day they ship, you'll be thinking about Tegra 4, or Super Exynos or Snapdragon Ultra or OMAPWTFBBQ...
TLDR; waiting for tech is a sad game to play, if you don't have current tech to play with while waiting. Though it is cheaper, I think it's a false economy.
I hear the next GTab 10.1 will be coming in january... You should totally wait. Hell, 04 Jan 13 is just around the corner
I love my Tab, it's the best Android Tab out right now, so why not go for it. You can always sell it later and get something back for it.
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I love my Tab, it's the best Android Tab out right now, so why not go for it. You can always sell it later and get something back for it.
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I definitely agree. Get ohe now and play with it.
You will then be able to see what you like and dont like before you buy the next generation version.
Costco has a 90 day return policy so I would take advantage of that if you could.
get the tab
I am in the market for my first tablet, and I think I have cut it down to 2 the Galaxy Tab 10.1 or the Transformer. What is your opinions on both, which would you recommend? I will be using the tab for movies, web surfing, gaming, you know average use. I do want to be able to root it and I do know the B70 and on models for the transformer cant be root yet.
Let me know what you guy think.
Well I just got my 10.1 today and I enjoy it so far... I almost got the TF but went with the GTab 10.1 due to the size! It is a lot lighter and for the aforementioned things I think you wouldn't be wrong in picking either but as far as carrying it around I think the 10.1 wins out!
I was also interested in the Transformer, but got the Galaxy Tab. I love it! So thin and light, and the screen is much brighter than the Transformer I looked at. I do love the keyboard for the Asus and the ports. I wish the Tab had more ports rather than the proprietary connector, but am glad with my purchase. I bought the Samsung keyboard dock and love it too. Also, I think Touchwhiz is an upgrade to Honeycomb. I can't believe I'm saying that, but I think it makes it better.
Take it from someone who had a transformer and a 10.1 at the same time. Go with the galaxy tab. I only now have the galaxy and couldn't be happier.
The asus doesn't have an oleophpbic coating which in my opinion is a deal baker. I would go to show it to someone and the thing was so smudgy and gross no one wanted to touch it. Deal breaker.
Also the build quality on the asus isn't up to par, the copper trim flaked off very easily and it had massive light bleed. The thing seemed thin and compact when I first got it but after getting my galaxy tab it made the asus look like a boat.
Can't go wrong with a 10.1 on a modded rom!
I was in the same boat, too. I went back and forth, and I was ready to purchase the Transformer because of the price even though I prefer the design of the Tab.
Fortunately, I found a deal on the GT which removed the only benefit the TF had (for me), and it will be here tomorrow.
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I was in the same boat, too. I went back and forth, and I was ready to purchase the Transformer because of the price even though I prefer the design of the Tab.
Fortunately, I found a deal on the GT which removed the only benefit the TF had (for me), and it will be here tomorrow.
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Do you mind sharing where you found that deal I am looking to buy a Tab
Look at the Sony S1. Its awesome. Real fight between that and the galaxy tab. Honestly though id wait a month incase the quadcores come out soon
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Look at the Sony S1. Its awesome. Real fight between that and the galaxy tab. Honestly though id wait a month incase the quadcores come out soon
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I agree with this. I was (pretty much like everybody here) looking to get the galaxy tab 10.1 or Transformer but I am happy with my decision of getting the tab. Although seeing the S1 and having it as an option while shopping for a tablet I would definitely consider the S1 as my tablet of choice.
Go to a store and TRY THEM OUT. That's what I had to do. I wanted a transformer till I felt the GT in my hands
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Exactly. Go to a store with and open mind. Forget bout brands and play with a few options for a while. You'll know which is right for you then
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Do you mind sharing where you found that deal I am looking to buy a Tab
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I've never had a problem buying factory refurbs. I know most times you get a reduced warranty, but I run an electronics repair shop so I'm not that worried. Best Buy has refurbs for $399.
Get the Galaxy tab. I had the Asus transformer and took it back to Best Buy (3 times). Each one had backlight light leakage. I tried the Sony tablet as well. It was a very nice tablet. I would be using it right now instead of the Galaxy. But the materials used with the Sony is awful. The front felt like plastic. Plus I didn't like the S curve design.
I have a transformer and its awesome. Asus has been great at giving us updates and official 3.2
I traded my never used iPad2 3G 16gb for the Asus and dock. I had offers for both but the lack of external memory killed it. The additional ports are awesome for hooking up external hard drives and USB devices such as 3G cellular cards and mice.
However I primarily just use it as a tablet. As just a tablet I might have preferred the Galaxy but I do use the additional stuff and it has saved me quite a bit. At least the option is there.
The Transformer 2 is coming out in October with the first quad core. Probably nothing to make me upgrade but if your looking to buy, Id agree with everyone else and wait a few weeks. Pick up a quad and be ahead of the times for a while.
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The Transformer 2 is coming out in October with the first quad core. Probably nothing to make me upgrade but if your looking to buy, Id agree with everyone else and wait a few weeks. Pick up a quad and be ahead of the times for a while.
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October is rumored! There is no actual date yet. For all we know it will be next year before the TF2 comes out. I think it is stupid to wait this long to give a release date if it is October.. October is 3 days away and nothing.. Damn Amazon gave a date for the Kindle Fire which is going to be released in November.
The only thing holding back from buying a Transformer is not being able to root it.. I like to customize my devices.. The one big thing to the GTab is its easy to root. Tomorrow I will be going to BB to and ask to see what Transformers they have to look at all there serial numbers =P. If they dont have a rootable one.. Ill just wait or look hard at the GTab.
Ive owned both and got rid of the asus as too many build faults on my unit which others have experienced also ie creaking body work and a blown speaker also when i had it thee was an imbalance in speake levels also that may have changed howeve it had not on the 3.2update
In my opinion the tab is a bette finished tablet yes updates are not as fast as asus but the tablet impresses a lot more than the tf did, the its a tablet its a netbook docking show off i did got tiresome after the first few posings
I liked the asus at first ands its not a bad attempt but the tf 2 is meant to be out very shortly i would wait
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Where did all my R,s go lol
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I just returned a tf back to bb for a tab 8.9. Functionality wise it worked great but the speakers suck. To make it even worse the speakers are right where you put your hands in landscape. I would rather have the ports but they werent that important to me. As soon as i picked up the 8.9 i fell in love. The size is damn near perfect. Ive always felt that tablets were too big to hold but this thing feels way smaller yet the screen doesnt. Touchwiz is a very nice bonus and you get earbuds in the box. Its only $20 to add a usb port so no big deal.
If you get a chance go put your hands on a tab 8.9.
I'd say skip all the Tegra 2 based tablet as the new generation tablets are coming very soon. It's just not worthy to get it at this moment.
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I just returned a tf back to bb for a tab 8.9. Functionality wise it worked great but the speakers suck. To make it even worse the speakers are right where you put your hands in landscape. I would rather have the ports but they werent that important to me. As soon as i picked up the 8.9 i fell in love. The size is damn near perfect. Ive always felt that tablets were too big to hold but this thing feels way smaller yet the screen doesnt. Touchwiz is a very nice bonus and you get earbuds in the box. Its only $20 to add a usb port so no big deal.
If you get a chance go put your hands on a tab 8.9.
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Where did you get you 8.9. I want one and don't know where to get it (I'm in Canada)
I have a Transformer and my wife has a GT 10.1. If I didn't need the keyboard dock for mobile writing, I'd opt for the GT. Not only does it feel better in hand, but Samsung surprised me with the job they did with TouchWiz on the tablet. I'm actually a little jealous of my wife in the this case.
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I am making this sticky thread to allow discussion of all other tablets and theie comparison to the Xoom. Feel free to discuss thoughts on upgrading, specs, and value of swapping. Please respect other members and their opinions. Flaming is against forum rules so again please be respectful.
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well as i just ordered my Xoom yesterday and it should be at my house this afternoon, and since it is my first tablet, i will say that i did a lot of research (no hands on though) on a few tablets before i decided to get the Xoom.
what i like about it is its history as being the first tablet with Honeycomb and one of the first to get ICS. And now will be one of the first to get JB so a big plus is the support for the device. Couple that with Google's purchase of Motorola and it seems like a match made in heaven
i know there are smaller, thinner, lighter tablets out there, but for the price and specs, its more than i need and i am sure i will be very happy with it
I'll take this opportunity to say that imho, the OG Xoom on team EOS ROM is still the best tablet currently available. It will be even better once it has been updated to Jelly Bean (Android 4.1) later in July.
I have been hankering for a new toy and have been looking at the Nexus 7, in part because I know that team EOS is going to be developing for it. But I'm wondering if I'll really be happy with it, seeing as it is missing some important features (especially no sdcard slot). 7 inch form factor is really nice for reading and gaming. It's easy to carry around too, but I have no problems carrying my Xoom in my backpack. I'm not sure about getting it yet, but no matter, it certainly won't replace my Xoom.
I am kind of interested in the Transformer Infinity when it comes out, again because Team EOS may develop for it, but it's not a nexus tablet... Then, there may be a 10 inch nexus tablet coming out later in the year. What to do?
I think the XOOM is one hell of an excellent device that would last me for a few more years. Has great people backing it up and making this tablet one of the best for the long run. To be exactly honest I was never in the tablet market, but by chance I had $400 AUD left over from my HTPC build so I decided to spend it on the XOOM. Probably one of the best choices I had done, but also another problem I don't use my tablet all that often, since there is no need. I'm always in front of a computer or laptop so my tablet just sits there. But I'm trying to use it for other things, such as reading eBooks and mangas. Though I just do all of that on my phone, but on the tablet is a lot more nicer with the big HD screen. In short, I have no need for another tablet even if I got it for free it be sitting right next to my XOOM collecting dust, and I rather use the XOOM since it has a tough feel to it. The Australian MZ601 is very well built!
Xoom is KING!
I've had the Xoom since it was first announced. (I was one of the lucky ones with a 25% off coupon, which they quickly ended) Since then I have bought and returned an Acer, an Asus, an iPad2, a Toshiba and have bought and kept an Archos 80 and a new iPad.
Having had and used various tablets I still prefer the Xoom for most uses. I have the Archos as a cheap backup if the Xoom goes down and I have the new iPad and use sometimes. The display is better than the Xoom but most other features are less useful than the Xoom.
I recently dropped the Xoom face down on the floor from my lap. I was sure I would have a broken screen. Apparently no worse for the wear. It Is Built Like A Tank.
ICS made the Xoom even more functional and if it should get JB then that would be even more reason to use and enjoy the zoom.
The new Google tablet sounds good but no micro sd card and no HDMI cripples it considerably.
Unless the Xoom gets broken or is stolen, I see no reason to update and there are no tablets on the horizon that interest me.
Mine arrives Monday, cancelled my nexus 7 for it. As soon as it arrives in going to flash the US Rom to make it a Google device....thanks to XDA
I've yet to see a tablet that is as good as the XOOM. Period.
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I've yet to see a tablet that is as good as the XOOM. Period.
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While I love my Xoom (first tablet and it's done a great job of making my netbook pretty much pointless) I wouldn't say that it's better than anything else out there. IMO the screen on the Xoom leaves a lot to be desired contrast wise especially compared to the Tab 2.
I also just picked up a Xoom. I've been in the market for a tablet over the last few weeks and considered a bunch. While the Ipad does offer a lot app wise, the additional tablet apps just didnt interest me. So ios was a non starter.
I use a Gnex and love it to death. I figure I'll stick with the google ecosystem. As soon as I found out the Xoom was getting Jellybean my mind was all but made up. I have a jellybean rom running on my nexus and it seriously does perform at another level. It just made me realize that I didnt need the latest quad core processor to run like a beast. So with that In mind I didnt go out searching for the latest tegra 3 android tablet. I've tried other android phones that werent stock android and I never enjoyed them.
Here's what I love about the Xoom:
- built like a tank, some say its too big...I love quality feel it has
- micro sd slot, thanks
- hdmi out, wicked
- in line for Jellybean in a few weeks
- everything works like it should...wifi, gps, cameras
Its not the flashiest tablet...doesnt have a cutting edge processor.....no next gen display....it just does the job for me.
as long as the next full size (read: 10.1/8.9) Nexus/GED has a good processor (1.5+) and has decent screen to go along with vanilla jb, ill be on board.
Ill be on board faster if google is selling it w/ the same strategy as the Nexus 7.
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While I love my Xoom (first tablet and it's done a great job of making my netbook pretty much pointless) I wouldn't say that it's better than anything else out there. IMO the screen on the Xoom leaves a lot to be desired contrast wise especially compared to the Tab 2.
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Yeah, I agree that hardware-wise, the Xoom is no longer bleeding edge, but software-wise, there is nothing really out there on ICS to touch it, and with Jelly bean custom roms that will come, this thing is going to scream. Right now, everything just works (on the configuration in my signature, at least), and that's more than some android tablets can claim. Transformer Prime, I'm talking about you, lol...
One thing I really hate is the disrespect the Xoom gets outside of the Xoom community, and it's started to resurface again now that the Nexus 7 is being called the 1st "nexus" tablet, when we know that that was actually the OG Xoom. I'm still torn about whether I want to add a Nexus 7 to my stable of Android devices, or wait for something more satisfying.
I too have been itching for an upgrade to my release day Xoom but once I loaded the JB ROM I realized what a waste of $200 the Nexus 7 would be. The Xoom on JB will satisfy me until the next version of Android which I will bet the Xoom will get though unofficially. It has been an up and down past year-and-a-half for the Xoom but one I don't regret and look forward to another year at least.
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While I love my Xoom (first tablet and it's done a great job of making my netbook pretty much pointless) I wouldn't say that it's better than anything else out there. IMO the screen on the Xoom leaves a lot to be desired contrast wise especially compared to the Tab 2.
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I always felt that what the xoom lacks in hardware, it makes up in software. I completely agree about the screen. But with the xoom, that same screen is going to be showing jelly bean officially. Speaking of Jelly Bean I can't wait for it to drop on our xooms!
I guess its fair to say that the xoom does have some shortcomings, but so does all other tablets. But with the xoom, there is a good amount of support from Google and Motorola, being a GED at least in the U.S. That fuels development even more and it's a great thing when an awesome community backs the xoom too! In a way, it makes up for some of them.
But I completely understand what you were saying. Good point
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I've owned many tablets in the past, ranging from Apple to Android. One thing for sure that made me love my xoom on top of many other tables is that Team EOS roms are great and their efforts developing customization are the one thing that makes me stick to the xoom.
When rooted, you feel like you have the power on top of your device to do anything you like. if you brick your device, it is still recoverable due to the amazing community support for it.
Price wise- it is affordable.
ROM size it a bit small compared to phones but ROM Images (system) are designed to fit just ok.
Screen: very responsive especially with ICS better than HC.
Charge time: very fast.
Speaking of JB, I don't have a single doubt that Team EOS would make it for us.
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You're telling me that Samsung, HTC, Sony and Google itself with Nexus devices have magical powers that gives them the ability to update their devices while the little Motorola can't do anything?
Think before posting, please.
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To each his own, i love my little motorola, xoom first to get HC, ICS and soon to be JB, all of google (TM) product will get jb first, I wonder what samsung htc and sony will do for an OS when google stop releasing the source code, Motorola will be one step ahead of your samsung, htc and sony,..
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To each his own, i love my little motorola, xoom first to get HC, ICS and soon to be JB, all of google (TM) product will get jb first, I wonder what samsung htc and sony will do for an OS when google stop releasing the source code, Motorola will be one step ahead of your samsung, htc and sony,..
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Since several threads were merged, this conversation has taken a bit of a turn, but to back-up your point, my Samsung GS2 E4GT phone still has not received the official upgrade to ICS, probably more due to Sprint than Sammy, but we are running custom roms based on leaked builds. They work fine but it's been quite a long time to wait for OTA and source.
The OG US Wifi Xoom has gotten every official upgrade just as fast as possible, and our devs get them to us even faster and much improved!
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I too have been itching for an upgrade to my release day Xoom but once I loaded the JB ROM I realized what a waste of $200 the Nexus 7 would be. The Xoom on JB will satisfy me until the next version of Android which I will bet the Xoom will get though unofficially. It has been an up and down past year-and-a-half for the Xoom but one I don't regret and look forward to another year at least.
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Can you use it as a daily driver, or are you just test-driving right now until the full version comes along?
I will admit that I'm tempted to try it, but nightly 114 is already so smooth and lag-free that I'm at least pretty satisfied for daily use.
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Can you use it as a daily driver, or are you just test-driving right now until the full version comes along?
I will admit that I'm tempted to try it, but nightly 114 is already so smooth and lag-free that I'm at least pretty satisfied for daily use.
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I am sacrificing a lot test driving the JB preview. BT, sound, data isn't working but enough is working to at least show the smoothness and lag free experience we should expect with JB. I was getting tired of the lag when hitting the "recents" button, home screen scrolling etc. Much more responsive on JB but in hindsight I have lost more than I gained and it may not be worth it for most.
My Xoom
I'm running a stock Xoom M604 Xoom. It's running ICS, which was slow to rollout here in Canada, but it came all the same. The updating of the OS is one of /the reasons I chose Xoom. I use it for most day to day things, as well as using it to control a friends DLNA amp. The "variety" of apps available for Android and iOS are moot, as there are so many redundant and useless apps for both platforms. I like not being locked in by the manufacturers whim, which is why I won't consider an iPad or iPhone. Only complaint I have with my Xoom is scrolling between the desktops. Which is a minor complaint vs iOS, because we actually have desktops I love the stock keyboard. It's large enough that I can still impress people with typing speed in Teamview sessions. I'm not a bleeding edge type, so thus far my Xoom has all the horsepower I need.
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I am sacrificing a lot test driving the JB preview. BT, sound, data isn't working but enough is working to at least show the smoothness and lag free experience we should expect with JB. I was getting tired of the lag when hitting the "recents" button, home screen scrolling etc. Much more responsive on JB but in hindsight I have lost more than I gained and it may not be worth it for most.
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OMG! EOS Jelly Bean! That's all I can say.
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OMG! EOS Jelly Bean! That's all I can say.
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I completely agree and cannot wait another second for it.
I haven't personally tried any quad core tablet, however there's no comparison between my xoom and my old advent vega (which was good, but the viewing angles were terrible) and with my dad's galaxy tab 10". they're all terribly sluggish.