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"Google" The EVO Update As I'm Not Allowed to post links.. BOO.
The EVO gets 2.2 presumably with the SenseUI on August 3rd.. When this is released is there any chance that we will see this flavor of custom rom for our Hero devices?! Hopefully Darch and the other XDA experts wont let us go without.. We can ONLY HOPE!! Hint, Hint, Nudge, Nudge.. Surprised there isn't a leak already.. Or is there!?
There is, i am running full 2.2 100% working on my Evo, and HTC also posted the update.zip on their website, but Devs from the Evo have had sense working for awhile now, but it still hasn't been ported over because of the huge differences in frameworks
I really wish I knew what people liked about SenseUI. It just seems so bulky and slow to me.
darchstar told me many times tonight there will be no 2.2 sense port for the hero. (from the evo) the arch is different
Nfinitefx45 will be working on porting 2.2 sense here soon
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Thanks for the info!
I flipped through the EVO dev forum (reluctantly) and saw that they are already up and running on the latest froyo build which is awesome! I'm glad to see that all hope is not lost and that there will be some development for 2.2 with sense. To answer Zardos66 I personally like the facebook contact linking and the look of the UI. It has nothing to do with performance and everything to do with functionality and usefulness. The SenseUI is a bit clunky but I haven't found a happy medium with any of the roms that don't have the SenseUI. Just something I'd like to see and If it can be done I trust that the XDA Pros will knock it out of the park.. I'm very excited to see what can be made of this!! XDA FTW!
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I really wish I knew what people liked about SenseUI. It just seems so bulky and slow to me.
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I thinks it mainly the widgets. other then that idk.
Im running senses, i've tried an aosp rom, it just didn't feel right, i guess i got used to sense.
But will install cm6 when darch gets into the RCs.
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I thinks it mainly the widgets. other then that idk.
Im running senses, i've tried an aosp rom, it just didn't feel right, i guess i got used to sense.
But will install cm6 when darch gets into the RCs.
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Even with OC, Sense still lags. It's is easy to mimic with less ram taken up.
Launcher pro
2x4 people widget - free
Messaging Widgets - free
Weather and toggle widgets - $1.99
feels good man.
Supposedly we can't port the EVO 2.2 release over to the Hero because the EVO build is designed for a much faster processor. Our Hero couldn't handle such a port without A LOT of tweaking....in other words, almost impossible.
Whenever the HTC Legend gets their 2.2 release, that is probably the build that the devs here will try to port over for us. A couple people have already committed to doing this.
eltrutgnik said:
I thinks it mainly the widgets. other then that idk.
Im running senses, i've tried an aosp rom, it just didn't feel right, i guess i got used to sense.
But will install cm6 when darch gets into the RCs.
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Darch released RC0 a few builds ago, i am currently running Not my dog too build and all is pretty well. Camera app is still pretty much useless but Camera Magic is a quick fix. The gallery is pretty messed up with auto rotate and such, but aside from pictures it is a MAJOR improvement over eclair. My Hero runs like a champ!
does it change anything that the desire got a sense 2.2 today also?
http://goo.gl/fb/Z0kfj
I'm not familiar with the desire to know if it would work... hopefully it's closer to ours.
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does it change anything that the desire got a sense 2.2 today also?
http://goo.gl/fb/Z0kfj
I'm not familiar with the desire to know if it would work... hopefully it's closer to ours.
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no still built on the snap dragon processor and is HDPI (high res) this is why we are waitng on the legend , it is the cousin to the hero in terms of processor and the fact that it is our exact resolution MDPI (medium). the legend is supposed to be on froyo within the next two months.
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the legend is supposed to be on froyo within the next two months.
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If it is gonna be anything like eclair release, I'm not holding my breath till around christmas, which is when the next major version of Android is supposed to be released. I bet by that time Sprint drops all support for their 6 month old Evo like they did with out Heroes, too!
Sigh I want froyo with sense.
(Sprint: "What's the evo? Oh that ole thing )
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Sigh I want froyo with sense.
(Sprint: "What's the evo? Oh that ole thing )
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the bottom line is the hero should of got the 2.2 update. sprint isn't doing a good job of supporting their phones at all. i owned the evo for a week and while i liked the speed & size the pitfall was the battery life. none of the tweaks worked and you had to disable every feature of the phone.
The nexus one looks so good. Still. So much support for it. Being googles baby it will probably get gingerbread. Just saying almost a year old and still one of the best phones. ("Did I get ripped off?" I sometimes wonder)
i just heard droid users are getting froyo today. this is a bunch of bull**** and im pissed at htc. i should of kept my evo. talk about dropping the ball with the hero!
There will be no port from the Ego since there's wayy to much things to change its almost impossible, but our hope of 2.2 is from the legend!
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There will be no port from the Ego since there's wayy to much things to change its almost impossible, but our hope of 2.2 is from the legend!
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i hope so because im not digging the aosp stuff. id like a sense port so i can get the htc goodies.
Was just wondering why it seems this device is taking a backseat to the G2? Is it just the length of time it has been released, or do devs really like the G2 better? I was just hoping to get a little feedback. I am coming from a G1 to this. Really like it, and am looking forward to seeing it improve over time like the G1 did. Just thought I'd start some discussion.
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Was just wondering why it seems this device is taking a backseat to the G2? Is it just the length of time it has been released, or do devs really like the G2 better? I was just hoping to get a little feedback. I am coming from a G1 to this. Really like it, and am looking forward to seeing it improve over time like the G1 did. Just thought I'd start some discussion.
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im wondering the same thing too... i traded in my g2 to get this phone and the very next day is when the g2 got perm rooted.
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Was just wondering why it seems this device is taking a backseat to the G2? Is it just the length of time it has been released, or do devs really like the G2 better? I was just hoping to get a little feedback. I am coming from a G1 to this. Really like it, and am looking forward to seeing it improve over time like the G1 did. Just thought I'd start some discussion.
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Maybe because the G2 had been out longer? Also HTC hasn't released source yet, so that probably plays into it. I still think that this phone will get some love pretty soon. Personally I'm going to sit back and be patient, phone still rocks stock.
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Maybe because the G2 had been out longer? Also HTC hasn't released source yet, so that probably plays into it. I still think that this phone will get some love pretty soon. Personally I'm going to sit back and be patient, phone still rocks stock.
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Same here bro. I've already seen the preview of cm6 on the mt4g. It's just a matter of time..
Several reasons...
The G2 has been out longer, it's an official dev phone, lots of devs picked it up (incl Cyanogen), etc.
Both the G2 and MT4G were rooted the same time, and one of the CM devs has the MT4G so we'll get some CM lovin soon. Maybe not as much as the G2, but I'm confident we have a better phone in general, and this baby will be rockin custom ROMs soon (and we'll have lots of stuff to rock out and toy with as the weeks roll on).
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Nobody take me wrong but at times I kinda regret not going with the evo just because its forums are fast moving and really active. like I said none take me wrong because I love my shift its so smooth. I thought all android was like this but I'm proud to say my phone runs android smooth. I thought this phone was going to be a hit like the evo. I'm hoping in general things take off. Anyone having the same feelings about the evo shift?
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Development is going fine, most of the development goes on behind the scenes and there are a lot of non-public builds out there.
Most of the action is in the IRC right now. I'd say about 1/2 of the builds are on the irc only. Some of the best builds are on the irc, or released early with bug fixes in irc. Things have taken off, but it's mostly behind the scenes.
I don't regret getting a shift at all =P
In no way do i regret getting a shift
No regrets here! My girlfriend has the evo so I've played with it since it came out and this was my upgrade from the hero. I love this phone! Lol
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I'm rooted but still running the stock rom. The phone runs smoother than the Evo (especially when running live wall papers) and battery life is much better when the phone is in use. I'm not blown away by the phone like when I first purchased the Evo, but I still think the Shift is a better phone. I thought I would miss the bigger screen of the Evo, but the sharpness of the Shift's screen almost makes up for it.
All I'm waiting for in a custom rom is one that has toggle switches in the pull down notification bar.
My perception of the Shift is that development does move slower than I had hoped/expected. That's just my perception coming from the Hero. (Not slighting those doing the good work.) However, my "regret" comes from personal tastes.
- I don't need a physical keyboard and the added bulk has started to bug me
- The keyboard slider isn't as tight as I feel it should be, and makes the phone feel a little more cheap that I'd prefer.
- Small design elements bother me (Chrome trim and circles, blue...)
The main "regret" feeling now comes from the Nexus S 4G that's rumored to be announced at CTIA. Likely selling the Shift to pick that up if it's released relatively soon.
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- The keyboard slider isn't as tight as I feel it should be, and makes the phone feel a little more cheap that I'd prefer.
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Did you remove the plastic from the back? If you did, that's probably why. I left it on and it's pretty tight.
Ahh me too!i wish i would have waited for the nexus from sprint but my heros charger port failed so i had to get something fast.=/ im have faith for the shift development.the hero rom development was amazing!!it made me love the phone.Im just looking forward to what everyone can do with the shift also im hoping in a camcorder mod or something like the nexus one did =] im sure it is possible.im starting to get into cooking some roms and everything but i just havent gotten it all down yet.my shift makes me wanna learn though!alot more than my hero!and the keyboard does feel a bit loose after a while but ive always had that problem with phones with slide out keyboards.i just hope it doesnt mess up like one of my old phone that caused the screen not to be touch able anymore.Dont Regret!give it time!
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My perception of the Shift is that development does move slower than I had hoped/expected. That's just my perception coming from the Hero. (Not slighting those doing the good work.) However, my "regret" comes from personal tastes.
- I don't need a physical keyboard and the added bulk has started to bug me
- The keyboard slider isn't as tight as I feel it should be, and makes the phone feel a little more cheap that I'd prefer.
- Small design elements bother me (Chrome trim and circles, blue...)
The main "regret" feeling now comes from the Nexus S 4G that's rumored to be announced at CTIA. Likely selling the Shift to pick that up if it's released relatively soon.
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It could be that I came from a touch pro 2 and we were spoiled with roms and options for android annd unbuntu. But I am glad I switched to the evo shift as it is smooth I've never had a phone this smooth.
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Jesus, Muhammed, Mary, and Buddha all use the Evo Shift..and they're rooted..loving their phones..that's the reason you should lol
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Development has been slow to start, but the phone is still pretty new. I'm glad I'm here for the beginning of it all personally.
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abanh said:
All I'm waiting for in a custom rom is one that has toggle switches in the pull down notification bar.
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Widgetsoid. Download it. Your wait is over.
I'm very happy with my phone. It's as if HTC remade my Moment awesome.
^ Shift Faced
The Shift is still a young platform, give it time. The EVO has had almost a year head start on the Shift as far as development goes, so it's no surprise that the community would be booming over there.
I too had this same question when it came time to upgrade. As a Hero CDMA user, I enjoyed a fantastic, active community, even for a phone that was based on ARMv6. If a phone of that caliber STILL has a community as vibrant as it is, the Shift is SURE to foster a wonderful kitchen of ROM creation and hacking. We've already got some excellent folks on board (I'm looking @ you NFX!) and more will come as people upgrade their phones.
I much prefer HTC builds to the likes of Samsung. The slide on my Shift is taught and feels solid - I too left the plastic on the back / edges. When the time came to select a phone, I tried everything at T-Mobile and Sprint and the only phone that would have enticed me away from the Shift would have been the G2. That second gen Snapdragon / Adreno 205 rocks my socks. So fast, so smooth.
I love this phone.
(ps. I also did not want a physical keyboard, but I'm falling in love with it, ESPECIALLY when ssh'ing into a box or using the terminal emulator)
Im running mikfroyo on the evo. I just got my girlfriend a shift. Has anyone tried the mikshift beta yet. Ill be rooting her shift in the next few days
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royshero said:
Im running mikfroyo on the evo. I just got my girlfriend a shift. Has anyone tried the mikshift beta yet. Ill be rooting her shift in the next few days
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It's good, but not themed and no mods really. He said he is getting rid of his shift to which makes me sad as I was looking forward to a lot more from him.
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royshero said:
Im running mikfroyo on the evo. I just got my girlfriend a shift. Has anyone tried the mikshift beta yet. Ill be rooting her shift in the next few days
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Its a fast rom..if you head to the and dev you can read all the compliments..also he is ditching the shift but he said he'd still develop for the shift so no issues there..
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Damn. Thats to bad hes the man
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JKILO said:
Its a fast rom..if you head to the and dev you can read all the compliments..also he is ditching the shift but he said he'd still develop for the shift so no issues there..
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Cool
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No regrets here, but I came from a g1 so anything is better than that lol
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sethb0529 said:
No regrets here, but I came from a g1 so anything is better than that lol
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You're crazy...G1 was my best android phone...
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I remember the days where people would port over awesome roms to the incredible, but not anymore...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1036706 - would be nice to have that...
We will get more newer gb sense roms when a working kernel is ready. It slowed when tbolt came out, but the inc 2 will not slow us, neither a just that much of an upgrade imo. When our kernel is ready, you will see many varieties of ports for the dinc.
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I saw a guy using a Thunderbolt... it rebooted on him twice in 10 minutes... second time to the startup screen
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We will get more newer gb sense roms when a working kernel is ready. It slowed when tbolt came out, but the inc 2 will not slow us, neither a just that much of an upgrade imo. When our kernel is ready, you will see many varieties of ports for the dinc.
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I hope you're right because I feel like the phone will be relevant, hardware wise, for a little while still...
/shrug. I have been using Cyanogenmod 7 Nightlies. Its Gingerbread. I'm at work so i cant see those images for that linked ROM... but what it says it has doesnt sound that great... also it makes 4g not work on your evo if you use it... so ... why even have an evo and be with sprint if you use that ROM.
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/shrug. I have been using Cyanogenmod 7 Nightlies. Its Gingerbread. I'm at work so i cant see those images for that linked ROM... but what it says it has doesnt sound that great... also it makes 4g not work on your evo if you use it... so ... why even have an evo and be with sprint if you use that ROM.
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Dude, your in the wrong forum. This is the droid incredible, not the evo.
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Dude, your in the wrong forum. This is the droid incredible, not the evo.
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That rom that the op linked to is an evo rom, so him talking about an evo is perfectly reasonable.
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That rom that the op linked to is an evo rom, so him talking about an evo is perfectly reasonable.
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True, but title to this thread is completely in reference to the dinc, which doesnt support 4g in the first place
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localceleb said:
I remember the days where people would port over awesome roms to the incredible, but not anymore...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1036706 - would be nice to have that...
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we'll get more ports when we get a gingersense leak. That rom is so outdated haha virus new port based on the htc kingdom sounds like its going to be a huge success for the evo.
A bit of perspective
Although I can feel where you are coming from on the fading of interest I wanted to chime in here to relay my recent experience with the incredible and its devs. My wife and I both had eris phones and were both rooted and running custom roms. The phone unrooted is almost unbearably slow and painful. Rooted is much better but still the phone itself is just so antiquated. I pushed Verizon to up my upgrade date and recently got the Thunderbolt. My wife finally got fed up with the eris and her upgrade date was too far out to push up so I got her a used incredible locally for about $170. Now comes the part that blew me away. The guy I got it from had it stock and never rooted. I did the research and was, as i said blown away with the sheer simplicity of the rooting and clockwork recovery rom experience. Thats all aside from the beauty, speed, screen brightness, perfect size, and overall satisfaction of the phone. I truly almost prefer it over my thunderbolt. The rom factory may be slowing down but this phone is an amazing device overall and the devs that have put time into it are to be commended in the highest. I can only hope that cyanogen and the others make my thunderbolt as amazing of an experience.
cant wait for gingersense. running CM7 2.3.4 but miss sense.
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I disagree. Several awesome ROMS are out there and it seems like we get another new ROM every week or so. Admittedly, some are more awesome than others, but development is defintely still on-going. That's the beauty of this device - it was so far ahead of it's time.
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I don't understand how the HTC HD2 is getting gingersense ports and sensation sense 3.0 ports, the phone is a Windows mobile phone so I doubt any gingerbread kernels are released for that... I don't get how they have these ports but we can't?
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I don't understand how the HTC HD2 is getting gingersense ports and sensation sense 3.0 ports, the phone is a Windows mobile phone so I doubt any gingerbread kernels are released for that... I don't get how they have these ports but we can't?
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Windows is a non issue.. once you flash an android rom (w/ Linux kernel) the windows phone os doesnt matter as its just hardware at that point. Android rom uses the Linux kernel to communicate w/ hw.
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I have noticed things are slowing down too. I got a Thunderbold day 1, which I love, no looking back for me, but my wife still has a Dinc, and I am always looking to update, it is currently running Myns Warm Z, not much else right now.
I am not sure it is slowing down so much as people are finding that what they have the love. I personally still flash a few roms every now and then but I always tend to go back to one... because It has the most of what I love. I think that always happens. I use to see this when I was running windows mobile htc 8125, people said that everything was slowing down but I think it is more the fact that you have know tried most of the ROMs. When I first got this phone I went through and flashed as many roms as I could. a few of them I am not going to try again until they get a few more levels up since I was not satisfied but there were a few that I really liked and I have flashed them when they come out with a new one. BUT I do always go back to my main rom.
So after all that I dont know if it is slowing down since I see new roms out every once in a while. I think that I just dont have the interest to flash them as often since I can say, I have already tried that. I will wait 3 more version before flashing that again...
You may have noticed that I didnt use one rom name since I do not want to discourage any ROM developer. They all do an "Incredible" job here no pun intended. Keep up the GREAT work and happy flashing.
SoBBie
I hear what you're saying, but there is still a lot of great work going on. The release of skyraider 4.0 was huge, and there are still a ton of roms being actively supported. Between CM7, MIUI, LiquidMetal, the z roms, and the stock sense roms, you can get just about any look you want.
It seems though, that most new ROM work, including ports, are the same old bases reworked with a twist. CM7 is nice, but doesn't have Sense.. The desireZ ports are nice, but still 2.2.. as with Skyraider.
I'm sure not knocking any devs work.. I use them and donate, just wish we had some new work coming our way... especially GingerSense!
I still see lots of development for the Inc. I am definitely really glad I got rid of my Fascinate for it two months ago.
Just my $.02
LOL, I'll have my ROM up and running soon... coming out of alpha soon...
Upgraded from a Hero, man the difference is out of this world. Been running jaybob's TeamHeroC rom on the Hero, and already rooted and flashed strapped's SupremeSense on the Shift
Loving this phone so far!
(Before anyone asks why I got the Shift and not anything newer it's because I'm with Credo Mobile, not Sprint, and this is the best Android phone they have at the moment. Still, it's a pretty awesome phone!)
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Upgraded from a Hero, man the difference is out of this world. Been running jaybob's TeamHeroC rom on the Hero, and already rooted and flashed strapped's SupremeSense on the Shift
Loving this phone so far!
(Before anyone asks why I got the Shift and not anything newer it's because I'm with Credo Mobile, not Sprint, and this is the best Android phone they have at the moment. Still, it's a pretty awesome phone!)
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Glad your enjoying the phone, and welcome to the community!
This is probably one of the better communitys of developers and users on XDA. although we do have little fallouts from time to time (were human right? )
Supreme Sense is a personal favorite of mine and as a themer thats where I put most of my work.
Im sure you'll be seeing me around the Theme & Apps Section.
Enjoy
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Why didnt you just get a better, newer phone instead of the shift? lol jk.
This is a beast of a phone
Welcome aboard man, you will see that the Shift should keep you more than happy when it comes to a phone, great camera pretty amazing performance and some of the best AOSP and Sense ROMS I have ran, I had an EVO and got rid of it when I broke it and ended up with a Hero then the Shift and I'm perfectly happy now that we have source for overclock and everything, I don't think I'll be "upgrading" anytime soon.
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Glad to have you aboard. Great choice on the Shift. This device is seriously underated. You'll enjoy the Shift a lot.
WOW! Someone actually GOT A SHIFT! Congrats! You will love it. It's one of the best phones on the market.
May I suggest Supreme Sense or Cyanogenmod 7 as your roms of choice.
Join us in the IRC chat room and hang out with us.
Hope to see you around.
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WOW! Someone actually GOT A SHIFT! Congrats! You will love it. It's one of the best phones on the market.
May I suggest Supreme Sense or Cyanogenmod 7 as your roms of choice.
Join us in the IRC chat room and hang out with us.
Hope to see you around.
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Thanks! I've already got Supreme Sense on it. I used CM and another AOSP flavored rom on my Hero for most of it's life, so digging on Sense right now. I'll probably flash CM at some point though, maybe if/when we get ICS
I'll definitely check out the IRC!
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Thanks! I've already got Supreme Sense on it. I used CM and another AOSP flavored rom on my Hero for most of it's life, so digging on Sense right now. I'll probably flash CM at some point though, maybe if/when we get ICS
I'll definitely check out the IRC!
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Plenty of instructions on how to get on IRC in the stickied thread. See my last post there. See you around!
I'm an old hand at IRC, but the guide is appreciated. Stopped by the channel for a bit today and will definitely hang out more. Thanks!
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Welcome aboard! The Shift is truly an awesome phone. Ignore those that cry that it's dead, they just want a bunch of identical ROMs with obscure names and different theming like the Evo forums
Welcome to the club.
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Welcome aboard! The Shift is truly an awesome phone. Ignore those that cry that it's dead, they just want a bunch of identical ROMs with obscure names and different theming like the Evo forums
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Welcome to the club.
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Thanks guys!