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Hermes hits toilet

OK, it happened. It was powered on, splashed, went under for about 3 seconds and I pulled it out. I immediately pulled the battery and set it out to dry. so now 24 hours later I power it up and .... well the lcd is toast. I can heat everything power up and navigate blindly somewhat. I open the phone and then I hear it dialing numbers randomly.
OK, that is all I can figure out so far. The question is do you guys think it is worth trying to replace the lcd and see if that fixes the majority of the problems or a waste of time?

In the mean time I have ordered a tilt/8925 or whatever they are calling it now.

Ouch...some users say that you need to open it up and clean it with some solution to get rid of the stuff that the water puts on there. I've always been paranoid about that (PDA is the new newpaper in the can...).

Its fairly easy to open, just make sure you download the guides(in wiki under htc service manual). Its a HELL of a lot EASIER if you also have the number 6 torque key... Once you do it you'll see its fairly robust and takes an awful lot of force to break., just follow the steps one at a time and TAKE YOUR TIME cos theres no first prize for flying through the disassembly and finding you forgot to put something back or missed a screw.
Cheers...

Steelpreacher;
Just as a side note; my 8525 has hit water twice! The first time it fell into my garden pond; just barely hit the water when I caught it but it did get wet. After doing 'all the right things', I was in the same boat as you--no lcd; could navigate blindly. Took it apart somewhat and left it open. When I came back to it about 3 weeks later, it was alive and well! Screen was fine and all the keys worked.
If you do buy another phone as I did, keep the other around as a spare and check it again in a month or so. It may surprise you!

I wounder if you use it as toilet paper or what.

Selling?
Would you like to sell it? Coming back from all that damage may be pricy.

Vicious said:
Would you like to sell it? Coming back from all that damage may be pricy.
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Vulture...

Touch Screen has stopped responding

Well, I woke up this morning with an unpleasant surprise.
I kept touching the screen to unlock my phone and nothing was happening.
Keys all respond fine.
But the touch screen does not.
I've found a few pages of people with the same problem, but no real solutions. I've tried soft resets, I've tried running paper under the edge of the screen..
I haven't done a hard reset yet, because the accounts I have read of this happening all say they get stuck on the align screen.
The phone was working fine when I went to bed last night. This is very bizarre

New LCD
Yeah, the best thing is to order new screen on eBay, you should pay $60 and it's like new again.

Or try refalshing the device. If that doesn't works.. Try Danjus' answer.

'Like New'
A new screen for 60 bucks?
This screen is new. I just bought this phone not even 2 months ago.
This is ridiculous.

Now it is just as mysteriously working again.
How can they sell this garbage?

It's not necessarily garbage just because you have an issue with one. Plenty of people use the same device for months and years without an issue. You never know what happens to a phone in transit from manufacturer to store. If you just bought it two months ago, take it back to the store you bought it and demand a replacement. Tell them that the touch screen is not working.
Also (and please do not take this as an insult but working in IT I see a lot of boneheaded blunders) make sure you did not have the screen locked. It's obvious when it is since it generally has the word UNLOCK on the bottom corner.

Worked when I woke up..
Not working again.
And this problem is obviously pretty common. What's not is a reason or reasonable fix for it.
I had my MDA for 2 years. It had been used so much the plastic was worn clear. I dropped it down stairs onto concrete.. still worked.
This junk hasn't been dropped ocne and it's been nothing but problems.

Clay213 said:
Worked when I woke up..
Not working again.
And this problem is obviously pretty common. What's not is a reason or reasonable fix for it.
I had my MDA for 2 years. It had been used so much the plastic was worn clear. I dropped it down stairs onto concrete.. still worked.
This junk hasn't been dropped ocne and it's been nothing but problems.
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Sounds like you have a defective wing. It could be a loose connection where the touchscreen connects to the board. I would definitely return it though. It doesn't seem to be a common problem though. Oh, and I had a MDA too. Man, that thing was a tank. I even dropped mine in water, dried it, and it still worked!

wet g1?

okay, I put my phone in my coat pocket when it (the coat)was slightly damp for at least 2 hours and later, I found that my phone kept showing the option to power off and my keys werent responding...the keys didnt seem to be stuck...I then wiped then reflashed, which in itself took a good while since my keys werent responding fast enough...but even the reflash didnt work...so did I ruin my phone because of the damp coat? And if so, anybody know how I can fix it? I'm thinking about blow drying my phone...good idea or not?

Don't try to turn the phone on anymore. Remove the battery, battery cover, memory card and SIM card. Place your phone in a bowl of rice to absorb moisture. Sometimes there's just a bit of water left in the system. Let it dry off, phones come back to life most of the time.

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Don't try to turn the phone on anymore. Remove the battery, battery cover, memory card and SIM card. Place your phone in a bowl of rice to absorb moisture. Sometimes there's just a bit of water left in the system. Let it dry off, phones come back to life most of the time.
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Im going to try this, but just in case anybody else has any ideas, here's a few more details on my phone...it'll turn on, touch screen works, but it's when i use the hard keyboard and press the keys that the option to turn off shows up on the screen...and the phone's green and end keys are flashing on and off like the phone is turning itself on and off, on and off...never seen anything like this on the forums...weird...

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Im going to try this, but just in case anybody else has any ideas, here's a few more details on my phone...it'll turn on, touch screen works, but it's when i use the hard keyboard and press the keys that the option to turn off shows up on the screen...and the phone's green and end keys are flashing on and off like the phone is turning itself on and off, on and off...never seen anything like this on the forums...weird...
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oh and thanks for the quick response...

No problem. The lights on the buttons going on and off is the water interfering with the circuitry. I highly recommend you leave your phone off, or you run the risk of shorting it out.

If water is making it run wrong, it **IS** shorting out.

my G1 was completely submerged in a lake for 5 minutes while powered on. as soon as it came out of the water i powered off, and blew it dry with an air compressor. left battery out for 24 hours and, worked 95% ever since. only had some random touch screen sensitivity loss.

if you are ok with taking the phone apart and the rice solution doesn't fix it then send me a PM and i'll let you know how to make absolutely sure nothing MORE goes wrong. right now though you probably messed up the phone cause you turned it on and off repeatedly

ok...did the rice solution...didnt work, so does anybody know any good, reliable cellphone repair shops in chicago that does the g1? Googled , found a place called CPR(cellphone repair) but the yelp reviews werent really convincing...so I thought I'd ask the people on here... you guys seem very reliable and I thought I'd rather ask you guys' opinions than go to a repair shop with poor to average reviews...pretty please?

oh, tubaking...ty for the reply...but I looked up the service manual and taking apart the g1 seems to take a lot more skill and experience working with electronics than I have, so that solution's out....thanks a lot anyways....peace, bro

there is no fix for permanant water damage, any shop is just gonna do the same thing i said unless they have access to the main board and all proper pieces to the phone. usually at times like this i go on ebay and buy a real cheap G1 with a broken screen or some other defect that the seller wants to get rid of the phone quickly and cheaply

I left my phone in the rain for a couple of hours and had the same issue. I know this is not the best solution (due to heat) but it fixed mine completely. I removed sdcard, battery, and bback. Then placed it on an egg carton and put in my toaster oven at 150 degrees for an hour or so. Didn't touch it for another day then powered it on. Power button glitched the first time I pressed it but has worked great ever since (been about 3 months)

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I left my phone in the rain for a couple of hours and had the same issue. I know this is not the best solution (due to heat) but it fixed mine completely. I removed sdcard, battery, and bback. Then placed it on an egg carton and put in my toaster oven at 150 degrees for an hour or so. Didn't touch it for another day then powered it on. Power button glitched the first time I pressed it but has worked great ever since (been about 3 months)
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That is awesome.

G1 at bottom of lake revived!
I think we should have a sticky to this Thread! Or maybe a a wet willie.
This weekend I dropped my G1 to the bottom of Lake Conroe and was able to fish it out within 5 minutes. Fortunately I was docked in about 6 feet of water. I totally took everything apart and when I got home placed the phone and parts in the direct sun wrapped in a white cloth. I suppose this is equivalent to the egg carton and toaster oven method.
That night, I put the pieces in a box of rice and put it back together in the morning and voila it worked!! For a few hours I had issues with the backlight coming in and out but after about 8 hours of use it works perfectly. I didn't even have to wipe or flash anything - everything like new.
Whew!!!

well, if people stopped playing with there phones and fingering it, it wouldn't get so wet, maybe you should try a personal lube if you can't keep your hands off

gridlock32404 said:
well, if people stopped playing with there phones and fingering it, it wouldn't get so wet, maybe you should try a personal lube if you can't keep your hands off
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Damn it you beat me to it. I saw the title and said damn this is to easy, wet g1. haahaha.

I dropped my phone in boiled hot dog water and here's what worked for me. I took my phone completely apart and wrapped it up in tin foil. I then put it in the microwave on med-hi for 1:32. Once that is done you take it out and put the phone (disassembled of course) in a bag of bbq potatoe chips (yes it has to be bbq or it won't work) over night. In the mean time you need to feed your dog a snickers bar (this is a must). The next day you need to take magic fairy dust (found a good deal on ebay) and sprinkle it over your g1. Then put your phone back together and slap your momma. Push the power button and bam a perfectly working g1 again. I can write a detailed "how to for dummies" on this if it will get stickied.

supreme, you forgot they need to eat the bbq chips while powering the phone on.

crpercodani said:
supreme, you forgot they need to eat the bbq chips while powering the phone on.
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Oh yea, I also forgot to mention with a tall glass of chocolate milk.

I'd bump your guide, if I would have had this then I wouldn't have spank the neighbor's wife's ass instead of my momma's, no wonder I still have a wet g1. Wait. What are we talking about, something about crickets and penut butter, I'm confuddle. Oh well back to spanking his wife's ass, mmmm cottage cheese thighs

Water damaged phone.. Help :(

UPDATE: The phone is magically fixed!
Hey guys!
So i was at a party 2 nights ago, and I lost my S2. I finally found it in the morning, it had been outside all night, and then I realised that it had been raining heavily.
I took the battery, sim card and micro sd card out and placed the phone somewhere warm and let it dry for about a day and a half. I plugged it in earlier, and it started charging fine, and then I turned the phone on.
It booted up. The hardware buttons are working fine, and the touch buttons below the screen also work, but the screen is completely unresponsive
EDIT: Just as I posted this, i got signal, so only problem i can see is the touch-screen
Is there anything I can do, or is this phone screwed?
I cant remember if I have Vodafone's insurance or not, I'm praying to god I do :/

Put it in a bag of rice and let it dry out even more

Look this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1128594
You'll find some tips that might be useful

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Put it in a bag of rice and let it dry out even more
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I was gonna say.... put it in rice. Should dry up faster

Had good result with silicate packets (the little bags in shoeboxes and many electrical goods) and rice. But let everything dry for days and don't reassemble - left my old PMP for 5 days after a toilet swim, still working. Smells great too. Honest.

Thanks for the replies guys. I've now put the phone in a bag of rice so I guess I just have to wait and see.

Lol keep us updated!

The problem could by the fact that the digitizer on capacitive screens are very sensitive, it sounds as if that may have been damaged.l I would think that the only thing you can do is to replace the touch screen, because it is gorilla glass and the fact the entire phone would need dismantling, If it isn't insured I would expect it wouldn't be cheap to get replaced. But you should be thankful that you entire phone didn't die, I mean you were quite lucky there. I broke my old hero by leaving it out side for 5-10 min whilst it was raining.

Bad news guys, its still not working.
Cant believe I let this happen, I need some trousers with tighter pockets for this damn phone! (and perhaps not carry it with me when I'm drinking haha)
Luckily its covered under my home insurance.
Do I get a new one or get it repaired?
Edit: Its also bloody ironic that I had just put a pattern unlock screen on my phone, so now I cant back up the contents because its locked! Is there any way to get round this? Or external ways to control the phone so I can get into it?
Cheers

There's insurance that covers phone water damage?

Hazlynch, you really need to keep it much, much longer than one day in the rice.
Trust me, apart from my aforementioned toilet episode, I've also lost phones and PMPs in the snow - all have worked again, but the shortest dessicating time was 3 days.
One day is simply not enough - not saying 100% it'll work after 5 days, but 100% certain it won't after one.
For the record, lost my Cowon S9 (OLED touchscreen) in a snowdrift - 5 days dessicating and worked - still going strong.

Ah right thanks for that info! From what I heard about the digitizer being sensitive I'm not very hopeful, but it wont harm to leave it in the rice longer.

I wasn't with my S9 either, but it surprised me, especially also being a touchscreen device too.
Remember to disassemble as much as you can from the phone - all cards and battery out but also in the box/bag - you need to expose as much surface area as possible of the device to the dessicant.
Try my silicate bag tip posted earlier too!
Let us know wha'ppen?

Ready to give it a try? How's it looking/feeling?

I managed to find some silica packets like you said so I put them in with the rice.
Just turned it on, but still no touchscreen responce

hazlynch said:
I managed to find some silica packets like you said so I put them in with the rice.
Just turned it on, but still no touchscreen responce
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Shame - not optimistic.. A couple more days won't hurt if you have the patience!

Yeah, I wont be able to get anything done about the insurance stuff for a few days anyway, so I'll leave it in there for longer. Starting to miss it now! Haha.
Oh and thanks again for everyone's help on this!

My situation has taken an unexpected turn... Went into vodafone a couple of weeks ago and explained that the touchscreen had stopped working.
They tried to factory reset and do other things to fix it to no avail, so they sent it off to their repair centre to fix.
I received it back today, with a letter which stated that it was thoroughly tested and inspected, and that they found that the fault had been caused by water damage. They explained that water damage falls outside of the manufacturers warranty and they could not repair it.
They also sent a picture which helped to show the extent of the corrosion, which looked a bit nasty.
I turned on the phone anyway when i recieved it, and to my great surprise... it is working - apparently flawlessly.
So it is a happy ending - and has proved to me how badass this phone is

hazlynch said:
My situation has taken an unexpected turn... Went into vodafone a couple of weeks ago and explained that the touchscreen had stopped working.
They tried to factory reset and do other things to fix it to no avail, so they sent it off to their repair centre to fix.
I received it back today, with a letter which stated that it was thoroughly tested and inspected, and that they found that the fault had been caused by water damage. They explained that water damage falls outside of the manufacturers warranty and they could not repair it.
They also sent a picture which helped to show the extent of the corrosion, which looked a bit nasty.
I turned on the phone anyway when i recieved it, and to my great surprise... it is working - apparently flawlessly.
So it is a happy ending - and has proved to me how badass this phone is
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This has me worried haha. My SGS2 has recently took a bit of a bath as well. The phone worked perfectly fine after sitting off overnight drying out. However after about 3 days it started random hang up and shut offs. I sent it in to a repair center a week ago and i am just hoping for the best. I dont have high hopes that they will replace it as it was water damage but i suppose its worth a shot for a $600 phone.
If they dont replace/repair it i will be taking it apart and cleaning it in hopes that i can make it work.

Here is my old sgs2 after a dip in the ocean. No insurance either. What you guys think?
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Took it apart, put it back together. Somehow it works better just from doing that?

So, took apart my xplay today because my screen was having issues and I wanted to see if a cable was loose.
Couldn't tell what was wrong, so I put it back together.
After putting it back together, I noticed a few things.
1. The power button that had always been loose was suddenly tight and in one spot. I thought the phone was just made that way. Turns out mine was improperly assembled right from the time I opened it. Gotta say, that button is far less annoying now. Anyone else have a loose power button?
2. My battery. Before taking it apart, my battery was at 19%. After putting it back together, suddenly my battery said 43%!! Suddenly it's got more? The heck is going on here?
3. My screen hasn't glitched again so far. Even though I didn't actually do anything other than unplugging/screwing and replugging/screwing some parts.
4. Originally, the left trigger felt "mushy" now it clicks like the right one.
On a side note, after seeing how the slider works on the inside, I recommend ONLY opening the slider when you're actually about to play a game, and not just fiddling around with the phone. The way it's designed makes it very obvious to me that the ribbon connecting the screen to everything else is easily destroyed. It wouldn't surprise me if my screen was having problems because of that ribbon.
Edit: NOPE. It's totally screwed.
Edit again: When the screen is glitching, moving the slider makes it start working some of the time. I'm becoming more and more convinced the ribbon cable inside the slider is the problem.

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EDIT: NOPE. It's totally screwed.
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LOL

Trolololol .
Can't you find a replacement cable?

I found one online, but I'm flat broke and literally have 1 dollar to my name the next 2 weeks. And my phone company wants what's left over after rent of the next cheque..
I'm gonna try and see if Rogers is stupid enough to give me a new phone without noticing what I did.
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Good luck!

captain67 said:
I found one online, but I'm flat broke and literally have 1 dollar to my name the next 2 weeks. And my phone company wants what's left over after rent of the next cheque..
I'm gonna try and see if Rogers is stupid enough to give me a new phone without noticing what I did.
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Looks like it's ten bucks shipped from ebay:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SLIDE-SLIDE...572?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20c4999f34
The only problem would be it'll likely take at least 2-3 weeks for it to come from Hong Kong!