Root without S-Off - Desire HD General

Hi,
i'm planning to Root my device so I can use some advanced Power management techniques (not installing any ROMs/Radios/Kernels).
Is it recommended after I root my device using the Visionary tool to get S-OFF ?

If you want to stay on stock rom there is no need to do S-OFF
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mjehan said:
Hi,
i'm planning to Root my device so I can use some advanced Power management techniques (not installing any ROMs/Radios/Kernels).
Is it recommended after I root my device using the Visionary tool to get S-OFF ?
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And Visionary doesn't give you s-off...

So no need for S-Off right ?
Does rooting the phone have any disadvantages ? Do I still get all OTA updates and stuff ?

mjehan said:
So no need for S-Off right ?
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No if your just plannig to use apps that need root right
Does rooting the phone have any disadvantages?
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Not really.
Do I still get all OTA updates and stuff ?
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I think so yes, as long as you don't modify the rom in anyway (ie delete apps that came with the phone etc.) Remember that you will lose root after applying OTA update.

I actually rooted and had S-ON. So yes you get the OTA updates, at least I did.

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[Q]

Hey, im new to the forum, so hi all
I got a Wildfire with hBoot 1.01.001 so i cant root it atm:/
But i read about putting a custom rom onto it, with goldcard i thing.
So will i be able to overclock my Wildfire with an custom rom and just temp root via z4root? thanks for your help
B14CKF1R3 said:
Hey, im new to the forum, so hi all
I got a Wildfire with hBoot 1.01.001 so i cant root it atm:/
But i read about putting a custom rom onto it, with goldcard i thing.
So will i be able to overclock my Wildfire with an custom rom and just temp root via z4root? thanks for your help
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Not unless you can get access to an XTC Clip somewhere.... Sorry
OK, thanks,
then i have to waiiiit
B14CKF1R3 said:
OK, thanks,
then i have to waiiiit
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I was luck to root just before update My friends all want me to root theirs but I can't! All we can do is wait for Unrevoked!
Yeah, hope they will have achievments in rooting
do yo know some ways of getting it faster without rooting i?
something like tweaking android
B14CKF1R3 said:
Yeah, hope they will have achievments in rooting
do yo know some ways of getting it faster without rooting i?
something like tweaking android
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Except from stopping any unwanted apps, not really...

GGGreat News! Now Offical 2.3 can be ROOTED!

Just install it, I have varified the app! Enjoy it!
NOPE, IT CANNOT BE ROOTED unless you have S-OFF. If you do, it is possible. Old news.
My downgrade guide uses the original GingerBreak binary to gain temporary root, so people with S-ON, just downgrade and be happy.
S-OFF? Radio or Eng, or both?
I'm still on 1.32. I'm a total noob and haven't yet mustered the courage to root my phone. Should I do this before I install the new Gingerbread update? Or can I do this later on after I upgrade to gingerbread?
Now. You can right to "root" without the fuss of Gingerbreak / downgrading.
Mate, does this also install Gingerbread for the HTC desire hd.
Thanks
No.
10char
Mr_JMM said:
Now. You can right to "root" without the fuss of Gingerbreak / downgrading.
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Thanks for the info. I will root before updating. Once rooted, will I be able to use the regular OTA updates?
yes you can use them, but u will loose root and get s-on again if you use a ruu/official update
Claim!!!
I have just flash my phone with the new 2.3 ruu, I DIDN'T DO ANYTHING ELSE! INSTALL IT, AND MY PHONE IS ROOTED!!!! WHY NO ONE BELIEVE ME?
PS: This is DESIRE HD Forium, Of course my phone is DESIRE HD.
Show us your bootloader, and do not shout.
ozaghloul said:
Thanks for the info. I will root before updating. Once rooted, will I be able to use the regular OTA updates?
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What you should do is root, get Radio S-OFF, and then unroot & do the OTA. After updating to Gingerbread, just run the Gingerbreak by Chainfire (search) to root again.
Thanks
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jkoljo said:
Show us your bootloader, and do not shout.
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What is bootloader?
jkoljo said:
NOPE, IT CANNOT BE ROOTED unless you have S-OFF. If you do, it is possible. Old news.
My downgrade guide uses the original GingerBreak binary to gain temporary root, so people with S-ON, just downgrade and be happy.
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Will I get only get shell temporary root (like using psneuter) or will I be able to make a backup like Titanium Backup while temprooted?
help me!!I installed gingerbread via OTA, and now i can't unroot or downgrade....
there is any helpful guide?!
Giovilomby said:
help me!!I installed gingerbread via OTA, and now i can't unroot or downgrade....
there is any helpful guide?!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13685220&postcount=3
You will need a goldcard (info contained in above)
In the first page there was this post by jkoljo:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13646505&postcount=2
ohhhhhhh thanks!!!

[Q] When will root be available?

OK, i recently got the OTA update for 2.3.4 on my T-mobile mytouch 4g. I was temp rooted, as to get my feet wet because I was new to root and the whole android system. I temp rooted with z4root. Can anyone post updates for anything on rooting 2.3.4+? This thread can be for all updates, or for just you guys to help me. You choose, but can you at least help me? thank you!
billcosby41 said:
OK, i recently got the OTA update for 2.3.4 on my T-mobile mytouch 4g. I was temp rooted, as to get my feet wet because I was new to root and the whole android system. I temp rooted with z4root. Can anyone post updates for anything on rooting 2.3.4+? This thread can be for all updates, or for just you guys to help me. You choose, but can you at least help me? thank you!
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it will be available when the devs find out a way to s-off. just be patient.
as of now, downgrade to 2.2.1 to root and s-off.
OK thanks. Do you have any estimate on when it will be available? If not, then ok thank you for your information
billcosby41 said:
OK thanks. Do you have any estimate on when it will be available? If not, then ok thank you for your information
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no i don't sorry.
OK. Do you have a link on how to downgrade?
billcosby41 said:
OK. Do you have a link on how to downgrade?
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here you go: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1178912#
i'm not responsible for anything that happens to your device.
Just like he said the best way is to downgrade through that method. And perm root either by the advanced way cyanogen wrote up. Or more user friendly ones that just require terminal emulator and not adb. u can find any of them through basic searches or through the development section.
saranhai said:
here you go: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1178912#
i'm not responsible for anything that happens to your device.
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1-click root like Z4root isn't available for any phone with Gingerbread 2.3.4 and up.
Judging by some posts on various boards, it won't ever be available, since developers aren't working on any such solution.
You can read some entertaining read:
http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/...otloaders-rooting-manufacturers-carriers.html
And remember some things:
1) Since that time, Samsung and HTC has officially declared they aren't going to lock their bootloaders. Actually, Samsung kept it open all the way, and HTC declared they're going to unlock them starting this summer.
2) There was no easy root app for Gingerbread 2.3.4 ever made, even though an exploit exists that allows temp-rooting. Which means - there are no devs interested in making rooting easier than it currently is, or they're prevented from making rooting easier.
About devs not willing to make it stupid easy to root anymore - you might read Cyanogen's post somewhere, also from several months ago.
Ok. I've researched, and found something called GingerBreak, but I don't really understand it.
billcosby41 said:
Ok. I've researched, and found something called GingerBreak, but I don't really understand it.
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Gingerbreak does NOT work with mytouch 4G 2.3.4.
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billcosby41 said:
Ok. I've researched, and found something called GingerBreak, but I don't really understand it.
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To restate what Jack_R1 said. There is no root for gingerbread on this phone. It's simple enough to revert back to 2.2.1 and root once you are there.
[in my words]
If you afraid of ADB and the SKD, and you are to lazy to do some research, you shouldn't be rooting your phone anyway.
[/in my words]
now i took the time to put all of the basic information that you'll need in the newcomers thread. Link in my signature. Take your time read though that and you can root your phone. Regardless of the version you are using. And there is a link, with video, for you setting up your ADB.
Thank you all for replys. you can keep them coming if you wish.
neidlinger, in your signature, it says how to root with root.sh. Is this a perm root or temp root? And is it compatible with 2.3.4? How would I unroot?
EDIT: read on xda that all i need to do is download the froyo rom, boot into recovery or hboot (sorry i forgot), and flash it? Am i correct?
billcosby41 said:
neidlinger, in your signature, it says how to root with root.sh. Is this a perm root or temp root? And is it compatible with 2.3.4? How would I unroot?
EDIT: read on xda that all i need to do is download the froyo rom, boot into recovery or hboot (sorry i forgot), and flash it? Am i correct?
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In my signatures are methods to root 2.2.x. If you should read my Newcomers thread there is a link for rooting 2.3.4 devices.
Sorry...thank you for all your help. Can you confirm that my edit is correct? " Iread on xda that all i need to do is download the froyo rom, boot into recovery or hboot (sorry i forgot), and flash it? Am i correct?"
billcosby41 said:
Sorry...thank you for all your help. Can you confirm that my edit is correct? " Iread on xda that all i need to do is download the froyo rom, boot into recovery or hboot (sorry i forgot), and flash it? Am i correct?"
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froyo rom... you mean the PD151IMG.zip? if it's that, then yes, boot into hboot, and flash.
saranhai said:
froyo rom... you mean the PD151IMG.zip? if it's that, then yes, boot into hboot, and flash.
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YES!! How do i get into hboot?
EDIT: sorry, a simple google fixed it. And all i do is flash it, then im on stock froyo and can do any root i want? Will all my contacts and apps be saved and stuff?
Wait how do I flash a ROM from hboot? And afterwards, how do I get out of hboot? Sorry, I just want to be extremely sure I don't brick my phone or f**k it up in any possible way.
billcosby41 said:
Wait how do I flash a ROM from hboot? And afterwards, how do I get out of hboot? Sorry, I just want to be extremely sure I don't brick my phone or f**k it up in any possible way.
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well, once you have the PD151IMG.zip in the ROOT (not in any folders) of your sdcard, the bootloader/hboot should recognize it, and will ask you if you want to update. hit yes, and the rest will be done for you. DO NOT PULL THE BATTERY DURING THE UPDATE PROCESS, THIS WILL BRICK THE DEVICE. after that just reboot (first reboot should take longer than usual, it's normal)
if for some reason the bootloader/hboot isn't seeing your PD151IMG.zip, then redownload the zip again.
It did the no image thing... retry? My stats are:
Glacier PVT SHIP S-ON
HBOOT-0.89.0005
MICROP-0429
RADIO-26.11.04.03_M
eMMC-boot
Apr 14 2011,13:18:22
EDIT: I connected it to my computer, and the zip file is named PD15IMG and a lot of other things. Do I delete all of that and rename it PD15IMG.zip?

[Q] Can someone help me temp root my mytouch 4g?

Does anyone out there know how to temp root the mytouch 4g 2.3.4??
vtrinh93 said:
Does anyone out there know how to temp root the mytouch 4g 2.3.4??
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seriously?
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=downgrade+mytouch+4g+2.3.4+to+2.2.1
a simple search could've given you an answer.
also, PLEASE check out my thread for newcomers in my signature. also check out neidlinger's.
I don't want to downgrade, I want to temp root on gingerbread just to uninstall the system apps
vtrinh93 said:
I don't want to downgrade, I want to temp root on gingerbread just to uninstall the system apps
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as of currently you cannot temp or permaroot 2.3.4. You must downgrade first.
Nothing you can do.
vtrinh93 said:
I don't want to downgrade, I want to temp root on gingerbread just to uninstall the system apps
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Read dude... There is a section in the downgrade thread that tells you how to temp root 2.3.4. Please read the whole thing
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Why would you want temp root?
Jeb_Sanders said:
Why would you want temp root?
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That and they don't understand how this phones works. Anything that is done in a "Temp rooted" state will be returned to an OE fashion once the phone is turned off. So even if you do delete it. It'll come back.
I want to temp root because im scared to downgrade and perm root.
Well, looks like you're out of luck. Temp-rooting won't get you anywhere, since the system is protected by the bootloader lock, and without perm-root you won't be able to do anything. As already stated, all you do under temp-root will not stick, and will be lost on first reboot.
So you either give up the idea of messing with the stock OS altogether, or grab the balls to do a downgrade and perm-root. Nothing left in between...
Rooting this particular phone is what makes it really worth having it, IMO, so long as you're comfortable with the process.
vtrinh93 said:
I want to temp root because im scared to downgrade and perm root.
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Why don't you just not root at all? Temp root won't get you far at all...
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vtrinh93 said:
Does anyone out there know how to temp root the mytouch 4g 2.3.4??
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Also all that's been said you can downgrade and flash a rooted stock gingerbread Rom. There's no way to temp root. Sorry.
Sent from my HTC Glacier using xda premium
Thank you guys for all the help. Now does anyone know a good 3.5 sense rom with beats on it? Or any 3.5 sense rom. I'd like the one with beats if they have it though.
Development section has 3 of them (at least), and all have Beats.

[Q] HTC Unlocker

Newb question.
If all I want to do is be able to remove bloat from my EVO and use wireless teather for root, then is running the HTC unlocker all I need to do? I don't care about all the custom roms and kernels and binary digits at this time.
Thanks in advance!
cremator75 said:
Newb question.
If all I want to do is be able to remove bloat from my EVO and use wireless teather for root, then is running the HTC unlocker all I need to do? I don't care about all the custom roms and kernels and binary digits at this time.
Thanks in advance!
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If you are running the latest OTA, with HBOOT 2.18, and all you want to do is root, then you will need to run the HTC unlocker, and flash a custom recovery. Then you can flash superuser, which will give you root access.
Also, I know I've answered this question before (using almost these exact words), so please make sure you search first.
Can you just install the superuser from the market or does it have to be flashed?
cremator75 said:
Can you just install the superuser from the market or does it have to be flashed?
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You have to at least flash the binary. Then you could install the app from the Market. It's easier just to install the zip that includes both, IMO.
If you have hboot 1.5, use the HTC unlock method.
Sent from my Evo 3d
djaykid11 said:
If you have hboot 1.5, use the HTC unlock method.
Sent from my Evo 3d
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its actually 2.18 for the og hboot 1.5 is for the 3vo

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