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Why isn't rooting and custom ROMs as easy as the standard Desire!?

I've done a fair few flashes with my Desire and always found it quite easy to follow and do, but I am so, so, so confused about how to go about attacking the HTC Desire.
Essentially, I want to root it and install a custom ROM (maybe change a radio, that's it). However, there is no set of instructions in any one thread, it's all over the place.
So far, i've managed to permroot my brothers phone using Visionary. Now, the next step is getting Clockwork Recovery. However, there seems to be two version 2.x (installed by ROM manager) and version 3.x. Apparently the former doesn't work for CM7... but I cannot find how to actually get Clockwork 3.x installed (easily...).
What are the most popular DesireHD ROMs and do they all require Clockwork 3.x? Also, what is S-Off... and do I need it!?

Because standard Desire does not have nearly as tight security as DHD has. You need S-OFF to get clockworkmod, and if you want to flash CWM 3.x, you need ENG S-OFF. Only gingerbread roms need CWM 3.x.
S-OFF: Phone security off, internal memory becomes read/write, you can flash anything you want, no version checks etc.

jkoljo said:
Because standard Desire does not have nearly as tight security as DHD has. You need S-OFF to get clockworkmod, and if you want to flash CWM 3.x, you need ENG S-OFF. Only gingerbread roms need CWM 3.x.
S-OFF: Phone security off, internal memory becomes read/write, you can flash anything you want, no version checks etc.
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Hmm... OK, I mean this is for my brother who is in no way technically inclined Perhaps we'll just leave it rooted for now and see if an automated tool appears for the Desire HD in the future
Cheers!

It does not get much more automated than my Radio S-OFF Tool / ENG S-OFF Tool..

jkoljo said:
It does not get much more automated than my Radio S-OFF Tool / ENG S-OFF Tool..
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I suppose so. So basically, the steps are:
Root phone - Done
S-Off/Eng S-Off
Install Clockwork Mod
Install ROM
The bit I find trouble with is how to do the clockwork mod bit. It seems like CM is the best DHD ROM, but that requires Clockwork Recovery 3.whatever and to get that installed you have to go through a ton of SDK stuff. Is there an easy way to get it installed?

alex98uk said:
Hmm... OK, I mean this is for my brother who is in no way technically inclined Perhaps we'll just leave it rooted for now and see if an automated tool appears for the Desire HD in the future
Cheers!
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Possibly like this one? search is your friend

alex98uk said:
I suppose so. So basically, the steps are:
Root phone - Done
S-Off/Eng S-Off
Install Clockwork Mod
Install ROM
The bit I find trouble with is how to do the clockwork mod bit. It seems like CM is the best DHD ROM, but that requires Clockwork Recovery 3.whatever and to get that installed you have to go through a ton of SDK stuff. Is there an easy way to get it installed?
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If u really need CM7, but doesn't want to install cwm 3, than, try CM7 on my signature..

SAPPH1RE said:
If u really need CM7, but doesn't want to install cwm 3, than, try CM7 on my signature..
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Ah brilliant
You know if it'll work with Clockwork Recovery 2.5.0.7 as that what comes with ROM Manager?

alex98uk said:
Ah brilliant
You know if it'll work with Clockwork Recovery 2.5.0.7 as that what comes with ROM Manager?
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Simple answer, no.
Please try following the advice you are being given and search the development forum, if your not willing/able to devote the time to reading up on S-OFF and installing CM7 please leave well alone and save us all a little time

To be honest I think that dhd is quite easy to root. You have one click tool in stickies so really a monkey could do it.
I'm attempting to root my girlfriends galaxy s and it's really complicated. Download this download that check if you have 3button startup, get Odin and so on....
Desire HD is fun to root...
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One Click-tool? For the latest update you have to downgrade,that looks not so easy?
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Yeah, downgrading makes it a bit harder, true. But after downgrading it is a breeze.

Wating for a new tool or updated visionary?
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Visionary will not do it, but I might make a tool to handle all those downgrade commands. I am busy now, however, so you should not wait for it.

magnum73 said:
Wating for a new tool or updated visionary?
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I wouldn't hold your breathe, whilst there is a simple-ish downgrade route the chances of anyone going to the great effort of needlessly finding and exploiting a new security flaw are remote. Anyone desperate for root will probably take the downgrade route and anyone unable to grasp the steps involved would probably be better served by a stock rom

I'm looking forward for an automatic tool to downgrade...Jkoljo
I want to get rid of that irritating bootsound and have a new bootscreen...
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Just use the manual method, I am busy, so it might take a while before I can start developing such tool..

I have time and I am afraid to do something wrong...
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I wonder why HTC don't want us to root...

dhiral.v said:
I wonder why HTC don't want us to root...
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Tech support, without root access you are unlikely to do anything terminal to your DHD software wise, so that should limit your tech support to hardware issues. With root access ham fisted people are returning phones with user inflicted software problems

[Q] I want root but don't need a new rom

Hey Everybody
i first used aria
Now i like 2.2 Original rom on ARIA....
I want root my ARIA but I don't need a new rom
Can I do ?
if i can do it
i like step on forums.....
hxxp://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7449486&postcount=1 (you can change xx to tt)
Yes ? and use Original rom OK ?
Nuuna

Yep, sure can. Just because you root doesnt mean you have to use a custom ROM.
You'll just get extra access to your apps, thats all.

akanitnuu said:
Hey Everybody
i first used aria
Now i like 2.2 Original rom on ARIA....
I want root my ARIA but I don't need a new rom
Can I do ?
if i can do it
i like step on forums.....
hxxp://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7449486&postcount=1 (you can change xx to tt)
Yes ? and use Original rom OK ?
Nuuna
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Rors said:
Yep, sure can. Just because you root doesnt mean you have to use a custom ROM.
You'll just get extra access to your apps, thats all.
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Not so fast. If you have an unbranded HTC Aria and have taken the OTA update for Froyo 2.2, then that update also modified your HBOOT loader and you will not be able to root your Aria at this time.
You may be able to gain temporary root using Z4Root, which may be all you need if you don't want to change the ROM. Z4Root will allow root access for applications, but you have to run it every time you reboot your Aria.

tpbklake said:
Not so fast. If you have an unbranded HTC Aria and have taken the OTA update for Froyo 2.2, then that update also modified your HBOOT loader and you will not be able to root your Aria at this time.
You may be able to gain temporary root using Z4Root, which may be all you need if you don't want to change the ROM. Z4Root will allow root access for applications, but you have to run it every time you reboot your Aria.
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thank . for information
i think... wait for a new version z4root

GGGreat News! Now Offical 2.3 can be ROOTED!

Just install it, I have varified the app! Enjoy it!

NOPE, IT CANNOT BE ROOTED unless you have S-OFF. If you do, it is possible. Old news.
My downgrade guide uses the original GingerBreak binary to gain temporary root, so people with S-ON, just downgrade and be happy.

S-OFF? Radio or Eng, or both?

I'm still on 1.32. I'm a total noob and haven't yet mustered the courage to root my phone. Should I do this before I install the new Gingerbread update? Or can I do this later on after I upgrade to gingerbread?

Now. You can right to "root" without the fuss of Gingerbreak / downgrading.

Mate, does this also install Gingerbread for the HTC desire hd.
Thanks

No.
10char

Mr_JMM said:
Now. You can right to "root" without the fuss of Gingerbreak / downgrading.
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Thanks for the info. I will root before updating. Once rooted, will I be able to use the regular OTA updates?

yes you can use them, but u will loose root and get s-on again if you use a ruu/official update

Claim!!!
I have just flash my phone with the new 2.3 ruu, I DIDN'T DO ANYTHING ELSE! INSTALL IT, AND MY PHONE IS ROOTED!!!! WHY NO ONE BELIEVE ME?
PS: This is DESIRE HD Forium, Of course my phone is DESIRE　ＨＤ.

Show us your bootloader, and do not shout.

ozaghloul said:
Thanks for the info. I will root before updating. Once rooted, will I be able to use the regular OTA updates?
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What you should do is root, get Radio S-OFF, and then unroot & do the OTA. After updating to Gingerbread, just run the Gingerbreak by Chainfire (search) to root again.

Thanks
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jkoljo said:
Show us your bootloader, and do not shout.
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What is bootloader?

jkoljo said:
NOPE, IT CANNOT BE ROOTED unless you have S-OFF. If you do, it is possible. Old news.
My downgrade guide uses the original GingerBreak binary to gain temporary root, so people with S-ON, just downgrade and be happy.
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Will I get only get shell temporary root (like using psneuter) or will I be able to make a backup like Titanium Backup while temprooted?

help me!!I installed gingerbread via OTA, and now i can't unroot or downgrade....
there is any helpful guide?!

Giovilomby said:
help me!!I installed gingerbread via OTA, and now i can't unroot or downgrade....
there is any helpful guide?!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13685220&postcount=3
You will need a goldcard (info contained in above)
In the first page there was this post by jkoljo:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13646505&postcount=2

ohhhhhhh thanks!!!

What is the EASIEST way to Root my Froyo?

I'm on Froyo on my HTC Evo 4G. Can someone please tell me what is the easiest way to root my HTC EVO 4G Froyo? After rooting it, how would I go about updating to the latest 2.3 update and also keep the root? Any help would this would be greatly appreciated.

Root.
Pick any ROM you want and flash it fromhere

mattykinsx said:
Root.
Pick any ROM you want and flash it fromhere
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I just came across Unrevoked3 (http://noobgui.de/wiki/index.php?title=How_to_root_your_current_EVO_4G_with_Unrevoked3), can't I use this guide to root instead? This looks way easier than the topic you mentioned, but I'm not sure what is the differnce.

EvoFroyo said:
I just came across Unrevoked3 (http://noobgui.de/wiki/index.php?title=How_to_root_your_current_EVO_4G_with_Unrevoked3), can't I use this guide to root instead? This looks way easier than the topic you mentioned, but I'm not sure what is the differnce.
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use unrevoked it you would like i used it. i had no problem with it.
just make sure you install the hboot drivers and then install htc sync then UNINSTALL IT. afterwards reboot your pc and run unrevoked
i hope im not missing any steps.

Just search on youtube for unrevoked vids. It will walk u rite through it. After you root and get s-off you can upgrade to 2.3 and keep s-off.

HTC Unlock

HTC has released a OFFICIAL unlock for Legend (amongs other),
http://www.htcdev.com/bootloader/
Better late then never?

Woahh.. Finally..~!! After nearly 2 years of waiting..
Yup.. its true.. better late than never..

Finally.... YES!

This'll give us S-Off to H-boot 1.01?
Also, now is better than ever

if i unlock my htc legend with this will can i directly use rommanager to install CyanogenMod ?

ericosman said:
if i unlock my htc legend with this will can i directly use rommanager to install CyanogenMod ?
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Same question, sorry if its a bit basic, new to this and finally given up on stock 2.2 rom and want to try out something better.

NX3 said:
Same question, sorry if its a bit basic, new to this and finally given up on stock 2.2 rom and want to try out something better.
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Once you've unlocked the Legend download and run the HTC Supertool V3 from your machine, select option 1 then option 3 and you'll be permanently rooted, then you can install rom manager and deploy whatever rom you want.

So, if I vaguely recall correctly,...
This basically means we won't need the gold-card trick anymore.
I use my Legend for app testing, both CM7 and Blayo ROM as a proxy for stock. I avoid real stock ROMs because they tend to be a pain to re-root etc.
So perhaps I can try real stock ROMs and be able to switch back that much easier...

Hi
I have a legend running cm7 with S-on, how can i get S-off now?
Thx
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There's a 5 page thread in the General section: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1498298
Looks to me like it's more trouble than it's worth at this time anyway.

smilingguy07 said:
Once you've unlocked the Legend download and run the HTC Supertool V3 from your machine, select option 1 then option 3 and you'll be permanently rooted, then you can install rom manager and deploy whatever rom you want.
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Thanks. I've done the HTCDev part, I'll do Supertool and custom rom at weekend. I can use clockworkmod from market to install a rom or do I have to use a Legend specific version ?

This is to get s-off? I'm on 1.01 Hboot. Using CM 7.1 stable
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nope... just the unlock bootloader... but you can use most of the S-OFF function.
with this you can flash your recovery part of your phone and also have system writes.

psyionx said:
nope... just the unlock bootloader... but you can use most of the S-OFF function.
with this you can flash your recovery part of your phone and also have system writes.
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Can i install/change system fonts ?

Well, we don't know that as of yet (that's still a big mistery to us) but I can assure you that one who would find that out would most certainly be elected as president of the Internetz.

Have done HTC dev part and now with hboot 1.02. So next step should be to use super tool?
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Yes, option 1 and 3, gets you root.

I tried the steps mentioned in wiki using super htc tool 3 and then using ROM manager. I was happy that it's almost done but got stuck with red triangle and exclamatory Mark when tried flashing cm7. What next ?!
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If i used it ... Can I use HTC Legend RUU to restore ?
and.. if i use it ... than i can change everthings with my Legend without use cmd instruction ~~? ex: change font。