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[Q] Is this right?

from what I understand there's 3 part to the system:
the recovery - the root bit
the rom - the OS
the kernel - the core? between OS and hardware? seem like over clock is in this bit
is this right?
and so when we root the phone we only replace the recovery bit? or anything more?
And the RUU will restore those 3 parts back to default which will (in action) unroot the phone?
This is just to check my understanding before I root my phone really
It's ashamed that we don't have a detailed guide around here...

Yep, you've got it pretty much right.
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Thanks
from wildfire XDA app

Just make sure not to flash the official RUU .exe, since there is no root for it yet. Install unrevoked and then flash like CyanogenMod 6. =)

those on http://www.shipped-roms.com/shipped/ are the 'official' RUU right?

coolK3N said:
those on http://www.shipped-roms.com/shipped/ are the 'official' RUU right?
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Yes! If you want to use those, let it go through Android Kitchen first (removes the RUU "non-root" recovery image), but you dont need to know that stuff.

Root hboot 1.01.0001

Hi,
Is there a way of rooting a wildfire with hboot 1.01.0001?
Downgrate... goldcard... any method!

No
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Short Answer is NO , s0rry to be the bearer of bad news , lolz gonna have to wait till someone figures it out , thats why i never flash an RUU or OTA upgrade unless i KNOW what its goin to do

this is soo funny, people wait to get official froyo, then they want to root. instead they could have rooted before and get a custom froyo rom anyway.
And there were many warnings not to update to the OTA or RUU unless a newer method came out.
Bad luck guys

not everybody is a wizzkid and understand all the thechnical things.

hans3103 said:
not everybody is a wizzkid and understand all the thechnical things.
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Nothing technical about it, all you have to do is search and read.

kevin2516 said:
Nothing technical about it, all you have to do is search and read.
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the thing is that i bought the phone like this ! .... i can't just unbuy it because of that.
hmmm.... not even root with linux?

Cristian.Ene said:
the thing is that i bought the phone like this ! .... i can't just unbuy it because of that.
hmmm.... not even root with linux?
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You'll have to wait for a new root sorry

I read many things and decided to install the original froyo. Its good for me at this moment but for sure When its possible in will root it for overclock my wildfire and to feel free to have a choice. So be friendly to eachother and helpfull when someone install the original and want to root it.
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IM stuck in the same boat as you mate , flashed my phone to unroot with a froyo RUU the ROM doesnt work well at all now im stuck with the same bootloader as you

Yeah I,m stuck too on froyo ota update,I bought a wildfire 3 days ago its my own fault,I used to flash my Nokia with cfw all the time I,m new to android I just didn't think I will not make that mistake again if I get to root it.if these hackers or whatever are like the symbian lot,they will wanna do it coz that's what they do,I hope so anyway.
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I did my phone GoldCard. But i am not sure how to make sure its done.
and whats the difference between Root and GoldCard? sorry i am newbie
HTC Wildfire
Vodafone UK network Locked
Software version 2.2.1
Kernel version 2.6.32.21-g6c55ee4
HBOOT-1.01.0002
MICROP-0622
Touch Panel-atmel224_16ab
Radio 0-3.35.20.10

Hi, I'm new here. How can I know my HBOOT version and all the other infos? Thanks

Rooting HTC Wildfire (firmware too new ???)
Hi,
I have the same update
H BOOT-1.01.0001
NOV.17.2010
I manage to install usb driver via Speedy0339
ONLY THAT WAY I MANAGE TO INSTALL H BOOT USB driver!!!
Then I run UNREVOED3
When I run UNREVOED3 process starts:
1. installs unrevoed 3 and reboot phone,
2. Then he starts rooting a.......and then :::::::::::::
3. SEE attached file [Error: Failed to get root. Is your firmware too new? ]

Root with Unrevoked
Unrevoked as we speak are trying to root the new Froyo update for the wildfire.
as the change log says.
v3.31:
Backed ClockworkMod down to 2.x series on EVO 4G; now 2.6.0.1.
Still has new kernel. Still has WiMAX key backup. Now supports amend scripting again.
ROM authors: fix your ROMs! Support will go away again in 3.x.x.x: Koush has a good thread explaining the reason why.
Improved compatibility with Android 2.1 (fixes “am reported error starting service”).
Increased root timing window (fixes “failed to get root” on supported devices).
v3.3:
Fix for latest EVO 4G OTA (3.70.651.1) and EVO 4Gs with new versions of HBOOT (2.02 and 2.10).
Switched exploits for all platforms; hopefully more reliable than rageagainstthecage
Updated ClockworkMod, with plenty of new features:
3.0.0.2 for EVO 4G, which has a new kernel (for better WiMAX safety), and supports WiMAX key backup
2.5.1.2 for Incredible, which supports SLCD
No update for Wildfire yet; sorry. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Only Snow Leopard is supported in the OS X build.
No update for Wildfire yet; sorry
maybe in the next update they seam to update pretty quick its just a waiting game now.

certrix said:
Hi,
I have the same update
H BOOT-1.01.0001
NOV.17.2010
I manage to install usb driver via Speedy0339
ONLY THAT WAY I MANAGE TO INSTALL H BOOT USB driver!!!
Then I run UNREVOED3
When I run UNREVOED3 process starts:
1. installs unrevoed 3 and reboot phone,
2. Then he starts rooting a.......and then :::::::::::::
3. SEE attached file [Error: Failed to get root. Is your firmware too new? ]
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If you've read the thread, you would know that there is no way to root that HBOOT version. Unrevoked 3 currently only works on the stock HBOOT.

I need to root official froyooooo
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Look up 'A solution to downgrade cn froyo 2.2' but I warn u, it may be dangerous.
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pl0ppy said:
Look up 'A solution to downgrade cn froyo 2.2' but I warn u, it may be dangerous.
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Solution for downgrade is not working. At least, untill a temp root exploit will be found for this new hboot.
Regards.
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I just recently bought my Wildfire, Never thought of rooting it till i found HBoot by mistake was just messing around i am also on HBoot-1.01.0001 like its said so many times on here root can't be done, i was messing with that z4root app on it and on temp it doesn't error out only on perm it does. So does this mean the temp root works ?
If so is there anyway you could flash with a temp root please bare with me i am a Linux person and the Andriod OS is Linux in a sense but Andriod is new to me and as such this might sound noobish.

Why isn't rooting and custom ROMs as easy as the standard Desire!?

I've done a fair few flashes with my Desire and always found it quite easy to follow and do, but I am so, so, so confused about how to go about attacking the HTC Desire.
Essentially, I want to root it and install a custom ROM (maybe change a radio, that's it). However, there is no set of instructions in any one thread, it's all over the place.
So far, i've managed to permroot my brothers phone using Visionary. Now, the next step is getting Clockwork Recovery. However, there seems to be two version 2.x (installed by ROM manager) and version 3.x. Apparently the former doesn't work for CM7... but I cannot find how to actually get Clockwork 3.x installed (easily...).
What are the most popular DesireHD ROMs and do they all require Clockwork 3.x? Also, what is S-Off... and do I need it!?

Because standard Desire does not have nearly as tight security as DHD has. You need S-OFF to get clockworkmod, and if you want to flash CWM 3.x, you need ENG S-OFF. Only gingerbread roms need CWM 3.x.
S-OFF: Phone security off, internal memory becomes read/write, you can flash anything you want, no version checks etc.

jkoljo said:
Because standard Desire does not have nearly as tight security as DHD has. You need S-OFF to get clockworkmod, and if you want to flash CWM 3.x, you need ENG S-OFF. Only gingerbread roms need CWM 3.x.
S-OFF: Phone security off, internal memory becomes read/write, you can flash anything you want, no version checks etc.
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Hmm... OK, I mean this is for my brother who is in no way technically inclined Perhaps we'll just leave it rooted for now and see if an automated tool appears for the Desire HD in the future
Cheers!

It does not get much more automated than my Radio S-OFF Tool / ENG S-OFF Tool..

jkoljo said:
It does not get much more automated than my Radio S-OFF Tool / ENG S-OFF Tool..
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I suppose so. So basically, the steps are:
Root phone - Done
S-Off/Eng S-Off
Install Clockwork Mod
Install ROM
The bit I find trouble with is how to do the clockwork mod bit. It seems like CM is the best DHD ROM, but that requires Clockwork Recovery 3.whatever and to get that installed you have to go through a ton of SDK stuff. Is there an easy way to get it installed?

alex98uk said:
Hmm... OK, I mean this is for my brother who is in no way technically inclined Perhaps we'll just leave it rooted for now and see if an automated tool appears for the Desire HD in the future
Cheers!
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Possibly like this one? search is your friend

alex98uk said:
I suppose so. So basically, the steps are:
Root phone - Done
S-Off/Eng S-Off
Install Clockwork Mod
Install ROM
The bit I find trouble with is how to do the clockwork mod bit. It seems like CM is the best DHD ROM, but that requires Clockwork Recovery 3.whatever and to get that installed you have to go through a ton of SDK stuff. Is there an easy way to get it installed?
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If u really need CM7, but doesn't want to install cwm 3, than, try CM7 on my signature..

SAPPH1RE said:
If u really need CM7, but doesn't want to install cwm 3, than, try CM7 on my signature..
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Ah brilliant
You know if it'll work with Clockwork Recovery 2.5.0.7 as that what comes with ROM Manager?

alex98uk said:
Ah brilliant
You know if it'll work with Clockwork Recovery 2.5.0.7 as that what comes with ROM Manager?
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Simple answer, no.
Please try following the advice you are being given and search the development forum, if your not willing/able to devote the time to reading up on S-OFF and installing CM7 please leave well alone and save us all a little time

To be honest I think that dhd is quite easy to root. You have one click tool in stickies so really a monkey could do it.
I'm attempting to root my girlfriends galaxy s and it's really complicated. Download this download that check if you have 3button startup, get Odin and so on....
Desire HD is fun to root...
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One Click-tool? For the latest update you have to downgrade,that looks not so easy?
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Yeah, downgrading makes it a bit harder, true. But after downgrading it is a breeze.

Wating for a new tool or updated visionary?
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Visionary will not do it, but I might make a tool to handle all those downgrade commands. I am busy now, however, so you should not wait for it.

magnum73 said:
Wating for a new tool or updated visionary?
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I wouldn't hold your breathe, whilst there is a simple-ish downgrade route the chances of anyone going to the great effort of needlessly finding and exploiting a new security flaw are remote. Anyone desperate for root will probably take the downgrade route and anyone unable to grasp the steps involved would probably be better served by a stock rom

I'm looking forward for an automatic tool to downgrade...Jkoljo
I want to get rid of that irritating bootsound and have a new bootscreen...
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Just use the manual method, I am busy, so it might take a while before I can start developing such tool..

I have time and I am afraid to do something wrong...
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I wonder why HTC don't want us to root...

dhiral.v said:
I wonder why HTC don't want us to root...
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Tech support, without root access you are unlikely to do anything terminal to your DHD software wise, so that should limit your tech support to hardware issues. With root access ham fisted people are returning phones with user inflicted software problems

Can I root?{FROYO WITH 0.80HBOOT}

Hey,
I have a Wildfire 2.2 with 0.80.0002 HBOOT. Can i root it?
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Update. I installed the drivers. Tried rooting with 3.14 and the new one. But they fail. The new one says " root failed. maybe your firmware is too new?" and 3.14 just says " root failed".
What could be wrong?
Maybe its because im on froyo? but my hboot is 0.80.0002 so i should get a root. Any suggestions? Maybe i should downgrade to 2.1. I would have an old firmware with an old hboot
Mod edit
avoid double posts (in this case tripple posts)

quemmy said:
Sorry for the spam but really. I have a wildfire with an old hboot. why can't i root it? :<
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Did you use Unrevoked 3.14 version ?

I have downloaded the new one. should i try the old one? :3

quemmy said:
I have downloaded the new one. should i try the old one? :3
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Try the OLD....and install Unrevoked Usb driver

Dayum. I cant install adb drivers. windows 7 ultimate x64. ive downloaded some vista drivers then it works. maybe i cant root because of vista drivers?
btw. when i install vista drivers and plug-in my widlfire it says MY HTC in the device manager.

Dude... I'm also using an x64 win7... firstly...use winrar to unpack the reflash package... extract it to someplace u can remember... jus install the drivers according to the instructions given in the 'hboot.html' file in the reflash folder.. its pretty easy... I always used to root my phone using this computer only ... never had a single problem... alternatively u could install HTC sync...( it will install the drivers ) and then remove it (only the application.. not the drivers).. and then try to root...
Hope I helped...
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Gonna try it in the morning. Thaaanks :3
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Updated. Look @ first post.
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Downgrading is certainly worth a try

I managed to root it via super one click. But now when i try to flash a recovery it says Device "" Is not supported.

Since you have rooted it, follow steps 2 to last from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1000367
BTW, Are you sure yours is a standard GSM Wildfire and not any of its derivatives like Bee, G8 etc?

um.. sorry for my poor English but what that word " derivatives" means?

quemmy said:
um.. sorry for my poor English but what that word " derivatives" means?
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Are you sure your phone is a GSM HTC Wildfire and not another Phone like HTC Bee, HTC G8 etc? They are 'rebadged' Wildfires for specific markets / countries.

Noo.I've bought it from one of the biggest sales company in Lithuania . I've rooted it BEFORE(and cuz im stupid i did an update ). But now when i type su in adb my phone SHOULD pop a windows with SU asking for something. But it doesnt :< maybe i didnt root it..

quemmy said:
Noo.I've bought it from one of the biggest sales company in Lithuania . I've rooted it BEFORE(and cuz im stupid i did an update ). But now when i type su in adb my phone SHOULD pop a windows with SU asking for something. But it doesnt :< maybe i didnt root it..
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Then how is your HBOOT still at 0.80? Please confirm the same. As far as I am aware, nowhere on the earth (Except the old Chinese release), did the official Froyo release not update the HBOOT to 1.0x
Also, in such cases, apps like Super one click root can only give temporary / shell root, which is pointless really, as it does not help achieve perm root.
What all do you exactly see on your HBOOT Screen? (Power down your phone. Press Power + Vol Down simultaneously, and let me know what it shows)

Yup i have 2.2.1 software & my hboot is 0.80.0002. So how should i root then?
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Okay. So my hboot screen:
BUZZ PVT SHIP S-ON
HBOOT-0.80.0002
MICROP-0622
TOUCH PANEL-ATMELC03_16ac
RADIO-3.35.20.10
May 13 2010,22:09:43
Your diagnosis?

quemmy said:
Yup i have 2.2.1 software & my hboot is 0.80.0002. So how should i root then?
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Followed this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1000367
Its amazing how you have the old HBOOT after getting official 2.2.1
Anyway, if the method I posted doesnt work, cant help you anymore. Sorry. Only one more idea I get is to use an old version of Unrevoked, which you state you have already tried.

Pic
Heres the pic :3 taken with my moms desire

You should try downgrading, or manually pushing the recovery (follow link that 3xeno posted above). Rooting really shouldn't be this hard, lol. No version of Unrevoked will work with 2.2 AFAIK for root, as I've heard people flash a 2.1 RUU and then root. That's another option - flash a 2.1 RUU (NOT 2.2) and then unrevoked. its 99% guaranteed to work the first time, and i guess 99.999% guaranteed to work within 3 tries. (0.001 % just in case, lol )
edit: running a 2.1 RUU is probably the easiest way... you should try it.

Ok. I pushed recovery in the hboot menu. thing is . i have clockworkd mod iLol'ed.I forgot Okay so ill try to flash now... Wait for it... wait for it... well install is complete.
I remember now. When i tried to root it a month ago it installed the recovery but it did not root my phone. Now when its rooted(i think) it works!!! LOL

New to HTC DHD ... BUT !!!

Hai guys ...
i purchased a new DHD 2 monthes ago ..
im considering rooting and installing a new ROM ..
BUT !!
It comes with android 2.3.3 , software no. is 2.37.707.3
can that be rooted or what ?
its my first android device ... still dont understand anything but everytime i search on google how to root it .. i find results on the ''froyo'' not gingerbread ...
i also need to backup the stock ROM in case i needed to re-install it ...
Any help ???
thank you ...

Please read the forum rules, use search first.
But it seems you are lazy ass
You must downgrade first to root (works for me months ago build ver. 2.37):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1152233

ya .. im kinda lazy ass :-D LOL ... thanks bud anyway ...

Use AAHK
You can use AAHK to root and get s-off in one step without manually downgrading first. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1259821

There are a few links or resources via my sig (here).

Htc Desire hd
Try the ace hack kit. works a treat. I messed it first time simply by doing quick format on my sd,always and always format it properly haha.
But no,ace hack kit took me 15 minutes,now ive tried loads of roms
Always back to android Rev mind.

anyway i can backup my current stock rom ??

BLOODY_STONE said:
anyway i can backup my current stock rom ??
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if you are rooted then you can use RomManager (clockworkmod).

u have to downgrade 1.7 with RUU

stevysg said:
u have to downgrade 1.7 with RUU
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For those saying you have to downgrade you have no idea what you are talking about. Especially when you resort to name calling. The Advanced Ace Hack Kit does not require ROM downgrading. It only downgrades radio and kernal. It is the only currently supported method available. Others have been discontinued or do not work anymore.

Desire hd 2? hasn't that been announced as HTC sensation?
Either you mean desire hd or sensation
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"2" goes with "months ago", not with "dhd"...
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I knew it would come back at me not to read everything
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Will I be able to backup my Orange UK Rom and reflash it later if need be ?
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I did it and installed Android Revolution HD ... BUT
it doesnt read arabic on websites ...
any solutions ?

Agoattamer said:
For those saying you have to downgrade you have no idea what you are talking about. Especially when you resort to name calling. The Advanced Ace Hack Kit does not require ROM downgrading. It only downgrades radio and kernal. It is the only currently supported method available. Others have been discontinued or do not work anymore.
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well never heard of the ace hack kit, but i followed this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857537
which is still working (just got my desire hd back from customer support and unlocked it with the method from my attached link)