Anyone successfully whine their way to a replacement? - Fascinate General

Has anyone had any success in whining their way to a free upgrade? I'm not suggesting it or really considering it I'm just curious. I've personally done it in the past when I've had issues with a phone but that was from a completely different issue than the extreme lack of updates. I'm personally not really considering it and the only thing that would possibly change my mind is if the devs on here completely ditch the phone. Which would be understandable considering the lack of releases of fascinate source code or updates from Samsung. PS thank you devs, you make this phone great.

This?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12829823&postcount=12

Its possible if you can work your way up the ladder to someone in vzw that has the authority to do so. Im on a business contract with about 20 lines though, I imagine we get treated better than individual contracts.
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It's quite easy.. File an FCC complaint. I've done it twice with two carriers. If your complaint is valid, they WILL fix it, seeing as the FCC ups the fees they pay if they have high unresolved complaint rates. Last time I did it was because of my Incredible-ey (pun) bad phone reception.
Just try not to abuse the power, as it is one of the last remaining ways we have to flex our consumer muscle.

Thought about that to considering all the new toys coming out But I really enjoy my Fascinate and even more so now that I have learned how to flash/hack/adb control my device. Custom roms are fun!

Yes...do it over the 800 number not in the stores...
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Thats how I got my fascinate. I went to T Mobile, got the new windows phone 7. After a week I realized I didnt get service so I went into verizon with the windows phone and said I would end my contract with verizon if they didnt let me upgrade. They grabbed the manager and I got an upgrade a year early.
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Hopefully I'll be able to get an early upgrade to the iPhone by complaining. I also Had a Palm Pre Plus and got screwed over with that phone too...
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I sent an email out and got them to allow me to upgrade to a thunderbolt for 125 bucks. They were trying to send me a refurb for free and not extend my contract, but I pushed back a few times and finally got them to send me a TB for that price. I did have to do 2 year contract, but at least I'm getting a new phone, that I don't have to wait on Samsung to update, or verizon for that matter. I was polite and made my case about how every time I go to the verizon store, that I was told someone had gotten froyo, and it would be right around the corner. I do believe if you present your case without being disrespectful, you can get an upgrade.

Sent an email last night. Just curious to see what happens. when I get a response ill let everyone know what happened.
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I did not think of this . I will give try to get an upgrade and report back.

Ok got a response and doesnt look like ill be as lucky.
Thank you for contacting Verizon Wireless through our website. I apologize for the delay in responding to your inquiry. My name is A'Darryl, and I am happy to assist you in regards to getting an upgrade to a device that has the Froyo 2.2 software upgrade.
I can certainly understand your concern with getting an upgrade to a device that has the Froyo 2.2 software upgrade; I know the importance of customizing your device to your preferences. I am happy to provide you some information in regards to your inquiry.
Verizon Wireless is committed to providing quality customer service. As a reflection of my commitment to you, I attempted to call you on the contact number ending in X6839 at approximately 2:45pm to provide you with some additional information needed to complete your request.
I have reviewed your account and I see your update date is not until June 1, 2012. At this time, we are unable to move your equipment upgrade date to allow an upgrade. I apologize for the inconvenience this may cause you. I do not have a definitive date as to when the Froyo 2.2 software update will be available for the Samsung Fascinate.
Should i continue to ***** or just call it quits?

ajd88 said:
Ok got a response and doesnt look like ill be as lucky.
Thank you for contacting Verizon Wireless through our website. I apologize for the delay in responding to your inquiry. My name is A'Darryl, and I am happy to assist you in regards to getting an upgrade to a device that has the Froyo 2.2 software upgrade.
I can certainly understand your concern with getting an upgrade to a device that has the Froyo 2.2 software upgrade; I know the importance of customizing your device to your preferences. I am happy to provide you some information in regards to your inquiry.
Verizon Wireless is committed to providing quality customer service. As a reflection of my commitment to you, I attempted to call you on the contact number ending in X6839 at approximately 2:45pm to provide you with some additional information needed to complete your request.
I have reviewed your account and I see your update date is not until June 1, 2012. At this time, we are unable to move your equipment upgrade date to allow an upgrade. I apologize for the inconvenience this may cause you. I do not have a definitive date as to when the Froyo 2.2 software update will be available for the Samsung Fascinate.
Should i continue to ***** or just call it quits?
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Continue, request to speak to someone with more authority and complain more.
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ajd88 said:
Ok got a response and doesnt look like ill be as lucky.
Thank you for contacting Verizon Wireless through our website. I apologize for the delay in responding to your inquiry. My name is A'Darryl, and I am happy to assist you in regards to getting an upgrade to a device that has the Froyo 2.2 software upgrade.
I can certainly understand your concern with getting an upgrade to a device that has the Froyo 2.2 software upgrade; I know the importance of customizing your device to your preferences. I am happy to provide you some information in regards to your inquiry.
Verizon Wireless is committed to providing quality customer service. As a reflection of my commitment to you, I attempted to call you on the contact number ending in X6839 at approximately 2:45pm to provide you with some additional information needed to complete your request.
I have reviewed your account and I see your update date is not until June 1, 2012. At this time, we are unable to move your equipment upgrade date to allow an upgrade. I apologize for the inconvenience this may cause you. I do not have a definitive date as to when the Froyo 2.2 software update will be available for the Samsung Fascinate.
Should i continue to ***** or just call it quits?
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I wouldn't give up that easily. Just ask to speak to someone higher up again and again.
I just sent my email and included the fact that I filed a FCC Complaint.
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I got to someone fairly high up and it was actually easy. Of course he blamed Samsung for our delayed Froyo and had no information, but told me that when I've been with them 6 months they'll give me an early upgrade.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1034546
Epic getting 2.3. So can't really blame Samsung eh? But I don't know much I check this section for my wifes fascinate. Sucks everybody else has their upgrade. Yet Verizon blames Samsung but look at all samsungs devices all up to date but the one on Verizon.
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dadsterflip said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1034546
Epic getting 2.3. So can't really blame Samsung eh? But I don't know much I check this section for my wifes fascinate. Sucks everybody else has their upgrade. Yet Verizon blames Samsung but look at all samsungs devices all up to date but the one on Verizon.
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I fully believe that it is Verizon being stubborn and somehow whether it's directly or indirectly, delaying the updates for this phone.

Snwbrdrxtreme69 said:
Thought about that to considering all the new toys coming out But I really enjoy my Fascinate and even more so now that I have learned how to flash/hack/adb control my device. Custom roms are fun!
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I completely love this phone. The only way I would consider an upgrade is if the devs on here continued to slow down at the rate they have. I don't blame them for anything it's more frustrating for them when they have to either port code from another phone or wait the ridiculous amount of time for an actual update.

what email did you contact? I figure i might as well give it a shot using the "i need froyo thing."
also, when I get the standard reply back saying we can't do anything, how do I ask to speak to someone higher up? should I just say can you tell your supervisor to email me?
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I just want to let you know, the customer service reps you complain to... They really really dislike you.
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2.1 update NOT happening Friday May 7th!

http://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/30479?tstart=0
I suppose you realize that the admins on the Sprint forums know just as much as the front line tech you get when you chat or call them right?
Either way, I don't care when (or if) it comes out. I'm perfectly happy with the customized ROMs we have now.
QUOTE=VoXHTC;6398994]http://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/30479?tstart=0[/QUOTE]
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Yes I'm aware thanks, This post wasn't for you.
wonbattlelost said:
im sorry, a little confused. are you saying the 2.1 update is not happening at all, or just not on may 7th?
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It's still slated for first half 2010 (according to the sprint forums), but the last post on twitter said early first half 2010, which would technically give them about 10 days.
They ARE still planning to push out 2.1 to the Hero and Moment.
Re: 2.1 update NOT happening people!
i find it funny the sprint forums are called baw. baaaaaw.
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I will be laughing my ass off if it did come out on Friday and that admin was wrong.
I'll be very indifferent whether the update comes out or not...
Second post in the topic totally refutes you:
They couldn't do that even if they knew.
The admins and staff on BAW can't announce something before the Sprint PR department officially announces it or OKs the announcement themselves.
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Now that we have the 2.1 roms will it really be that big of a deal when it comes out other then for the people on unrooted stock.
who cares about the official update i have given up on phones that sprint are responsible to update lol, sprint sucks i am seriously considering going to verizon these days, verizon has always had the best phone selection, more smart phones than any other provider out there, just so freakin expensive is the only problem
I want that damn update just so I can have a ROM without the audio loss that keeps happening! I can't get away from it no matter where I go.
Sprint is the undisputed king of dropping the ball on updates, had the Hero not been rooted before my 30 days was up I would have gone to Tmo.
smw6180 said:
I suppose you realize that the admins on the Sprint forums know just as much as the front line tech you get when you chat or call them right?
Either way, I don't care when (or if) it comes out. I'm perfectly happy with the customized ROMs we have now.
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I kind of care because I would like to see an Official 2.1 ROM, this leak doesn't let me send emails from exchange just reply.
Your title is a little misleading...
like another member said before me, the admins did not say that. all they said was they don't know..
No one at the BAW forums has come forward and said "this update is not happening May 7."
This is very telling because in the past, they have directly refuted most of the rumored dates.
captivate said:
Your title is a little misleading...
like another member said before me, the admins did not say that. all they said was they don't know..
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Im guessing you didnt scroll down and read post 9 when the ADMIN said
"I can officially (no, really) state that it is NOT going on Friday, May 7 2010.
When is it going? Sorry, no one has that information for publication.
I can confirm that we are continuing to test the 2.1 build for both Hero and Moment and we are committed to delivering the update in the first half of 2010."
IM definitely not sayin he is right or saying he is wrong.. Only showing that an admin actually did say this. Some people i guess cant read.
Will England (Wengla03) at BAW is usually well informed on these matters and was always forthcoming with info on Sprint's last red headed stepchild (Instinct) in the past. I trust his info over any other "leak", though I do hope he is wrong.
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Will England (Wengla03) at BAW is usually well informed on these matters and was always forthcoming with info on Sprin's red headed stepchild (Instinct) in the past. I trust his info over any other "leak", though I do hope he is wrong.
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Its really funny over there on sprints forums.. Someone made an off topic "joke" post and everyone joined it and was just talking. One of the admins got her pantys in a bunch and actually deleted peoples post that were off topic. Yet there was no topic but joking. She locked the thread for it starting to get off topic. Even wengla the admin joined in and said something before it was locked. Its like all the admins over there are so desperate to get action and constantly delete and end threads.
And i remember going threw all the instinct updates.. They were at lease muchhh better at setting general times (within the week) of when an update would come out. If it got moved back they would come out and say, its been moved back, expect it on this date.
The hero update, Sprint has been just simply terrribblee at keeping the customers in the loop.
Demoyo23 said:
who cares about the official update i have given up on phones that sprint are responsible to update lol, sprint sucks i am seriously considering going to verizon these days, verizon has always had the best phone selection, more smart phones than any other provider out there, just so freakin expensive is the only problem
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Verizon has always had the best phone selection?!? Did you forget the sarcasm tag?

Ota release

Just got off the phone with verizon they stated that they will be sending out the ota for the droid x and droid tomorrow and not the incredible. When I asked when it would come out they said latter this summer. Strait from tech support.
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Lol, and monkeys might fly out my butt. No offense, but most of us have learned not to believe anything a verizon rep says, regarding update release dates.
nuwave22 said:
Just got off the phone with verizon they stated that they will be sending out the ota for the droid x and droid tomorrow and not the incredible. When I asked when it would come out they said latter this summer. Strait from tech support.
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the vzw reps know as much as my toenail.
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Hey believe it or not well see tomorrow if it doesnt come out I dont know why the sprint evo got theirs
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nuwave22 said:
Hey believe it or not well see tomorrow if it doesnt come out I dont know why the sprint evo got theirs
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The EVO got their's because Sprint didn't want their top phone to be overshadowed by the Droid X and Droid 2. Luckily for us, our phone is very similar to the EVO so we can be sure our phone is not far behind.
Only the Droid is getting the OTA as of now. Not the Droid X
From what I've gathered though, the OTA is going to bork root. Honestly my 8/01 is working perfectly, except for twitter widget, which force closes, which is ok, because i hate twitter.
Even if it did come tomorrow i don't think I'd install for a few weeks.
Note to Verizon: it IS the end of the summer, JERKS!
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From what I've gathered though, the OTA is going to bork root. Honestly my 8/01 is working perfectly, except for twitter widget, which force closes, which is ok, because i hate twitter.
Even if it did come tomorrow i don't think I'd install for a few weeks.
Note to Verizon: it IS the end of the summer, JERKS!
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lol they are real idiots...again, my toenail knoes more than them
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Yeah i agree but the faster it comes out the faster developers find out how to root it thanks to xda thank you for all your hard work.
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funny thing is that the rep didn't make a false statement. if it doesn't come tomorrow, it will inevitably have to come later this summer. it can't come sooner this summer. or right now this summer.
But! this thread has got me thinking on some threads that I think I'll start ...
1. "i just got off the phone with verizon tech support and he spent 10 minutes trying to find a "touchscreen sensitivity calibration" menu because "it would help with my proximity sensor malfunction".
2. "i just got off the phone with verizon tech support and they told me that I had to replace my Dinc with a refurbed Droid because refurb dincs wouldn't be in stock for a month"
3. "i just got off the phone with verizon tech support for the 2nd time today and Surprise! refurb dincs are in stock and my replacement is on the way."
4. "i just got off the phone with verizon tech support and he thought froyo was frozen yogurt."
bottom line: don't listen to tech support. just tell them what to do.
Fretless said:
Note to Verizon: it IS the end of the summer, JERKS!
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What? Summer's not over until football is in full swing. More scientifically, when we reach Autumnal Equinox. September 23rd to be exact.
First regular season pats game sept. 12th!!!! THAT is the end of summer!!!!
Looks like Motorola might know a litle bit more then your Verizon rep does.
http://blogs.computerworld.com/16679/droid_x_android_2_2_froyo
nuwave22 said:
Just got off the phone with verizon they stated that they will be sending out the ota for the droid x and droid tomorrow and not the incredible. When I asked when it would come out they said latter this summer. Strait from tech support.
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Bear in mind that VZW tech support knows just about as much as anyone on the forum... perhaps even less. They are not privy to the information, so they pass along whetever rumor they've heard. Those that are "in the know" don't deal with customers.
vantagejuan said:
4. "i just got off the phone with verizon tech support and he thought froyo was frozen yogurt."
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Well....It is.
Summer is not over until froyo stops vaporizing upon contact with my driveway.
-M
vantagejuan said:
funny thing is that the rep didn't make a false statement. if it doesn't come tomorrow, it will inevitably have to come later this summer. it can't come sooner this summer. or right now this summer.
But! this thread has got me thinking on some threads that I think I'll start ...
1. "i just got off the phone with verizon tech support and he spent 10 minutes trying to find a "touchscreen sensitivity calibration" menu because "it would help with my proximity sensor malfunction".
2. "i just got off the phone with verizon tech support and they told me that I had to replace my Dinc with a refurbed Droid because refurb dincs wouldn't be in stock for a month"
3. "i just got off the phone with verizon tech support for the 2nd time today and Surprise! refurb dincs are in stock and my replacement is on the way."
4. "i just got off the phone with verizon tech support and he thought froyo was frozen yogurt."
bottom line: don't listen to tech support. just tell them what to do.
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THAT is so true.
sryan2k1 said:
Well....It is.
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touche! if you're ever in nashville, tn ... sweet cici's has the best. but, you get the point.
smw420 said:
Summer is not over until froyo stops vaporizing upon contact with my driveway.
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it's also not over until I don't have to worry about heat stroke on the golf course. or until i no longer have to mow the grass every 4 freakin days! seriously, i mowed on tuesday ... 2 storms and 3 days later it's halfway up my calf. very disheartening.
FYI: I read that the Droid got root after the 2.2 OTA via that new market app.
Also, I know the Incredible is already the better device but/so why update the Droid first? Makes no Sense to me. First the shipping delays, now they want us to wait while the old ass Droid gets updated. I guess VZW figures they already have gotten the Incredible users to sign new contracts, so they aren't going anywhere.
Also I sent a tweet to HTC asking 'when are we getting updated because I'm tired of running these buggy leaked ROMs.'
They tweeted:
"A small reminder that when SW updates are ready, HTC or your carrier will notify you. Unofficial software can create future issues."
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[Update] 2.2 update coming confirmed

I went into my local tmobile store yesterday in hope of returning my vibrant because of the GPS issue. The employees (2 of them) confirmed to me that the update will come next week with the fix for the GPS issues. They said it'll be along with 2.2 update. I wrapped up my vibrant and bust out of the store as quickly as I went in.. seems like good news to all of us vibrant users. Now its a waiting game... if the update doesn't come next week ill be returning this vibrant for sure.
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That's not exactly "Confirmed" chances are that you'll probably be returning that Vibrant next week. Otherwise the Fascinate would probably be shipping with 2.2 and as far as I'm concerned none of the leaked documentation has indicated that it will.
I want to believe you. I really do.
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That is good news. Btw, is the gps problem that bad for you to want to return the phone?
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Well, T-Mobile has already confirmed an update in September but I doubt it would be next week. I also doubt that employee knows something that the rest of the world doesn't.
The tmobile rep I talked to on the phone yesterday said the GPS update would be separate from the 2.2 froyo release and should be out in the first 2 weeks of sept and available as an OTA
I went in acting as if i'm just a normal user that doesn't know anything about xda developers or any android website.. (if they actually looked at my phone it has superuser app installed and all that ****, i'll be rejected for sure) on of the guy told me first that the update should fix that and it is a software problem (sigh, i knew that) and he asked me have i read all those on internet and i just simply said NO. he then said the update is gonna fix the GPS issue. I acted more stupid by asking him "do i have to get anything to get an update". he said it'll be rolled out over the air. then another employee, the girl jump into the conversation and asked me about the phone blah blah blah, and she said that the update's coming next week. BTW the GPS is not really a big problem here since i don't really use it.. i tried to return the phone becuz i was thinking i should wait for the G2, i just bought vibrant so far pretty good, applied lag fix and i always get 2200+ on quadrant..
PS. there's no reason for me to lie and speculate things, i just say things that i experienced..
Are you saying you dont think it will come next week, or are you saying not at all? Cuz its definitely getting 2.2, im just not expecting it next week...
(@2nd post)
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mr2t32 said:
That is good news. Btw, is the gps problem that bad for you to want to return the phone?
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I know it's bad enough for me to want to return mine if the fix doesn't work. The GPS on this phone is pretty bad as is. My TouchPro 2 was MUCH better. Both for lock times and keeping the signal.
Driving around in 3 major cities on clear sky days, my Vibrant loses it's GPS signal pretty much every time. Sometimes it resumes GPS after a few seconds, sometimes it takes a few minutes or never regains GPS lock. It's inconsistent to say the least.
I'm using Copilot Live and Google Maps on both the TouchPro 2 and the Vibrant. The Vibrant fails with either software.
PS: This is my second Vibrant. The first one had the same issues. I've tried various GPS fixes, but most if not all cause Google Maps to completely lock on my phone. I have to reset the phone to get it working again.
the galaxy s line will definitely be getting 2.2 at some point. I highly doubt it will be next week though. give samsung a little time to drop the fascinate at least.
oh and t mobile reps know absolutely nothing that we don't, so don't take their word on things like this before they're confirmed. they just want you to buy phones/keep your phone.
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jaker.the.skater said:
the galaxy s line will definitely be getting 2.2 at some point. I highly doubt it will be next week though. give samsung a little time to drop the fascinate at least.
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given that the galaxy s line is sold worldwide. i hope that samsung wouldn't mess this one up. it makes me wonder cuz thinking of "Samsung Rolled out 2.2 update really fast" will make them look a LOT better after the "behold" epic fail. I expect the update but i have until the 16th to return since i live in california and i get 30days window, so i might just wait till the 15th (can't say that i don't give them any chance). if the update doesn't come, i'll return and i believe many more will do the same if they still can.. the G2 is coming out and it looks like it'll be pretty advance. Don't we all just love the phone that are Top of the line without us having to modify it...
@op, this should be in general. has zero to do with development, as it's more just a discussion
I spoke to my local t-mobile store in nyc, she openly said by end of september.
So lets see..... if Samsung release the update and tmobile hold it for some reason and not OTA it yet. Would it really hurt their sales in the us? And if Samsung taking too long to release the update.. would it hurt their sales worldwide ? Anyway we're all just the user who hope one day we'll wake up, picked up our phone and see the update screen waiting for us to press yes. So lets hope that our manufacturer and carrier wouldn't turn us away by doing it "too late" .. and we shall see
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There has been no official internal memo about the release of 2.2. The reps are just speculating and telling you what you want to hear so you don't return your phone.
Ever since Google announced 1.5 people have been calling or going into stores asking about updates. Frankly we get asked constantly and are tired of getting asked. We give a generic response like "in a few weeks" just so you will stop asking. Once we know you will know and it will be all over tech blogs.
And when there is a release date not everyone will get it at the same time. OTAs roll out in groups so you might not even get 2.2 till October if you wait for the OTA.
speoples20 said:
There has been no official internal memo about the release of 2.2. The reps are just speculating and telling you what you want to hear so you don't return your phone.
Ever since Google announced 1.5 people have been calling or going into stores asking about updates. Frankly we get asked constantly and are tired of getting asked. We give a generic response like "in a few weeks" just so you will stop asking. Once we know you will know and it will be all over tech blogs.
And when there is a release date not everyone will get it at the same time. OTAs roll out in groups so you might not even get 2.2 till October if you wait for the OTA.
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Dead on right there.. The only thing our internal memos have said is Samsung has committed to a September release date for the GPS Fix and rumoured September release date for froyo. All that means is they will start pushing a update in September. To comply with this then can start pushing it September 30th. If your waiting for a update to keep you from returning the phone then just return it now and get it after the update comes out.
NexVision said:
Dead on right there.. The only thing our internal memos have said is Samsung has committed to a September release date for the GPS Fix and rumoured September release date for froyo. All that means is they will start pushing a update in September. To comply with this then can start pushing it September 30th. If your waiting for a update to keep you from returning the phone then just return it now and get it after the update comes out.
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Thanks for the advice . I guess I'll return it and use my HD2 with "android " rom for now.
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Yeah the people at the Tmo store will tell you anything to keep you as a customer... At one of my previous retail jobs I was told to lie twice a day if possible, just to get me in the mode if I had to bc I didnt know something.. Its their job to sell you something, if it happens to be a lie, so be it...
T-Mobile announces the same updates to employees as they do to the public.
Sometimes the public finds out about the updates before the employees.
If T-Mobile hasn't announced it somewhere, the employee is making it up.
speoples20 said:
There has been no official internal memo about the release of 2.2. The reps are just speculating and telling you what you want to hear so you don't return your phone.
Ever since Google announced 1.5 people have been calling or going into stores asking about updates. Frankly we get asked constantly and are tired of getting asked. We give a generic response like "in a few weeks" just so you will stop asking. Once we know you will know and it will be all over tech blogs.
And when there is a release date not everyone will get it at the same time. OTAs roll out in groups so you might not even get 2.2 till October if you wait for the OTA.
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To a extent, it is true but if you're tech savvy that is incorrect. When a person gets a OTA, the person can get the link of where the OTA is located and post it up. When this is posted, anybody can MANUALLY push the update to their phone. It doesn't even require root, I'd assume it would be to rename to update.zip and boot into recovery and press reinstall packages (Non-Clockwork).
This is how it was during 1.5 -> 1.6 for the G1 and other phones.

lol go att captivate!

x Samsung Galaxy S GPS + other improvements for Samsung ATT Captivate are HERE! Today - next few weeks OTA notification will be sent to customers! 11 minutes ago ยท via HootSuite
Thanks for the support TMO!
Hopefully tmobile announces something later today or by the end of the week, cuz it seems like our update is around the corner :fingers crossed:
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Blah man said:
Hopefully tmobile announces something later today or by the end of the week, cuz it seems like our update is around the corner :fingers crossed:
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Doubt that because the still have no information about any of the update...
Android Central comments about the Captivate updates don't sound to impressive. issues with not installing and still GPS issues after the update?
Want to know how is he GPs working after the update!!
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Want to know how is he GPs working after the update!!
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its not only gps. The Update Suppose to Improve The Battery Life as Well.
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Want to know how is he GPs working after the update!!
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it isnt fixing the issue from what I read. AT&T also never mentions a GPS fix.
The more and more time that goes by, the more and more I want a G2 when it comes out honestly. Sumsung really dropped the ball here and its going to leave a bad taste in a lot of people's minds for a long time...
Windows Phone 7 anyone? This phone is making me think about it also.
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it isnt fixing the issue from what I read. AT&T also never mentions a GPS fix.
The more and more time that goes by, the more and more I want a G2 when it comes out honestly. Sumsung really dropped the ball here and its going to leave a bad taste in a lot of people's minds for a long time...
Windows Phone 7 anyone? This phone is making me think about it also.
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WIndows 7 phone? LOL no thank you. i ll stick with my vibrant. i think the hardware in that phone is very advanced than what is in g2. we just need software updates that will fix the bugs.
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it isnt fixing the issue from what I read. AT&T also never mentions a GPS fix.
The more and more time that goes by, the more and more I want a G2 when it comes out honestly. Sumsung really dropped the ball here and its going to leave a bad taste in a lot of people's minds for a long time...
Windows Phone 7 anyone? This phone is making me think about it also.
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You know what, I think Samsung is 50 percent to Blame. The other 50 percent is T-Mobile. T-MOBILE...simply does not support their phones.
Buying the G2 will be the same damn story. Sure it will come with 2.2, but as soon as 3.0 comes along, every other carrier will have it months before T-Mobile releases it on the G2, and you will cry and complain "the more and more I want Verizon."
I honestly think the problem is T-Mobile, and not so much the handset manufacturers.
tmobile is throwing Samsung under the bus, I got this back from a message I sent to Tmobiles facebook a bit ago..
Robert,
We understand your interest on updates Samsung is working on one and as soon as we have any more information on this we will communicate it.
.. notice they say that Samsung is working on one, I did ask about 2.2 though and not the gps fix.
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You know what, I think Samsung is 50 percent to Blame. The other 50 percent is T-Mobile. T-MOBILE...simply does not support their phones.
Buying the G2 will be the same damn story. Sure it will come with 2.2, but as soon as 3.0 comes along, every other carrier will have it months before T-Mobile releases it on the G2, and you will cry and complain "the more and more I want Verizon."
I honestly think the problem is T-Mobile, and not so much the handset manufacturers.
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Honestly, my biggest regret was leaving at&t. I left because I wasn't interested in an iphone, I noticed no good new WM apps were coming along, and I wanted a 3.5 mm headphone jack on my phone. The nexus filled all those needs so when it was released I jumped ship to t-mobile. I found out the grass isn't always greener on the other side.
I still have no idea why people say T-Mobiles customer support is better than AT&T; from everything I've seen it isn't even close.
Someone else posted on here before about T-Mobiles BB getting upgraded to V.5 not too long ago.. they have 6 out or it's close to release. T-Mobile does lack in this "Software/Firmware" Update department. They have some decent phones but don't support them enough.
It's amazing, when the G1 came out, yes it was the first Android phone but updates rolled out pretty quick. I know it was stock "Vanilla" Android but updates were addressed in a timely manor. But now they have the My Touch, My Touch Slide and Cliq series and now the Galaxy S phone.
Wow everyone is a bunch of goddamn vultures here. Waaah I've had my phone a month and a half Samsung and T-Mobile suck I want my updates waaah. People need to realize that updates need to go through a lot of steps. If you don't like your phone return it and get a different one.
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Wow everyone is a bunch of goddamn vultures here. Waaah I've had my phone a month and a half Samsung and T-Mobile suck I want my updates waaah. People need to realize that updates need to go through a lot of steps. If you don't like your phone return it and get a different one.
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If you don't like the post why reply?
speoples20 said:
Wow everyone is a bunch of goddamn vultures here. Waaah I've had my phone a month and a half Samsung and T-Mobile suck I want my updates waaah. People need to realize that updates need to go through a lot of steps. If you don't like your phone return it and get a different one.
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So what its perfectly ok for other Galaxy S phones that haven't been out as long as the Vibrant to be getting their updates, but not us? Honestly, I really think it has to do a lot with TMO and not Sammy. Luckily, I've rooted and running a custom ROM and Voodoo fix. I also know that doing that is not for everyone though.
The Captivate came out what like 3 days after the Vibrant? Maybe tmo and Samsung are waiting to see how the update goes on the Captivate. It wont matter anyways we could get it tomorrow and people will still complain that it's not 2.2 or their phone is still not fast enough or some other bullcrap.
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speoples20 said:
Wow everyone is a bunch of goddamn vultures here. Waaah I've had my phone a month and a half Samsung and T-Mobile suck I want my updates waaah. People need to realize that updates need to go through a lot of steps. If you don't like your phone return it and get a different one.
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Your joking right? First almost 2 1/2 months. Second the others all got a update as mentioned.
All other phones with 1ghz are running froyo, even a hd2 without android has it.lom
I vote we get /b/ to start ****. Maybe then we might get some movement from T-Mo and Samsung... just me? >.>
not that it will do anything to Tmobile but I've decided that whoever gets 2.2 on the Galaxy S device first is who I will be switching to. If its Tmobile then I won't be going anywhere, but if another carrier can get it out before Tmobile see ya.
Tmobile launched this device First int he US there is no reason they should not be the first to release the OS update even if it takes them till November
I do agree that they need to support their phones better. But at least TMO isn't forcing bing down our throats either.
I come from the Blackberry side of the fence and I remember when 5.0 devices were new last year it took forever for TMO to release an update for the 9700, and that original release was filled with bugs. I finally gave up on waiting for them and simply downloaded another carrier's release. Easy to do on that platform.
I like the Vibrant for the most part. Yes it has bugs; yes it's quality needs to be improved. Yes the GPS kind of sucks. But what other high-end phone out there doesn't have issues these days? I'm sure the G2 will have them as well.

Use social media to stick it to sprint and samsung

Pissed off about the 2.2 delays? Yeah me too.
DK28 not stable enough for you? Yeah me too.
Have had it with neither firm taking responsibility or communicating the status of the project? Yeah me too.
Take action:
Comment on: https://www.facebook.com/sprint and tell their social marketing team that you want an answer, an eta, a statement of responsibility. Hit them up at http://twitter.com/sprint too.
Or even: http://investors.sprint.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=127149&p=irol-contact
Do the same for https://www.facebook.com/SamsungMobile
Both firms are more likely to see your voice and respond to it then they would trolling the xda forums.
Do the same for https://twitter.com/samsungmobileus
Or even: https://contactus.samsung.com/customer/contactus/formmail/mail/MailQuestionGeneral.jsp?SITE_ID=76&PROD_ID=2088
I like this idea. I'll be bugging them as soon as I get home from work.
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Hey guys, this is my first post and I'm a long time reader, so bear with me . Anyways, I toyally agree with you except, I just got off of the phone with samsung and according to the lady 2.2.1 was already released to sprint on the 17th of december. So if she is correct, it would be way more effective to call sprint instead because they are the ones with the ball in their court now (IMO). Yeah, samsung took long, but I think we must now pressure the carriers bcause it WAS already released to them (idk about AT&T) and that's maybe why the galaxy s phones were listed as 2.2 on Sammy's website. The sounded like she thought we had it by now, but maybe she's just... DUMB? Again I may be totally wrong about all of this sooo.... that's just my current thoughts on the update drama.
*edit: but hey, I guess it wouldn't hurt to talk to samsung while you're at it xD
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Put messages on both twitters and FB pages.
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Hey guys, this is my first post and I'm a long time reader, so bear with me . Anyways, I toyally agree with you except, I just got off of the phone with samsung and according to the lady 2.2.1 was already released to sprint on the 17th of december. So if she is correct, it would be way more effective to call sprint instead because they are the ones with the ball in their court now (IMO). Yeah, samsung took long, but I think we must now pressure the carriers bcause it WAS already released to them (idk about AT&T) and that's maybe why the galaxy s phones were listed as 2.2 on Sammy's website. The sounded like she thought we had it by now, but maybe she's just... DUMB? Again I may be totally wrong about all of this sooo.... that's just my current thoughts on the update drama.
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The strategy here is not to directly go to one or the other but to both in hopes that one will pressure the other to make a statement or take direct responsibility.
Although I am glad that this is the case and we now have an official statement from Samsung.
Did anyone who posted ever receive a response?
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Did anyone who posted ever receive a response?
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they never respong back dude... i've been posting **** on Samsungs page for ages now about it and they dont give a crap.
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they never respong back dude... i've been posting **** on Samsungs page for ages now about it and they dont give a crap.
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Well what are the chances they will respond to that kind of language? Come one now. How can they respect the vocabulary of a middle schooler lacking in eloquence?
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I've posted on all of the links twice now and even added @SamsungService to my tweets. Its odd. I hate twitter and I've refused to tweet after trying it once but if to get these corporations to respond to our community I must break my personal ban then I'll install the damn app on my phone.
Don't forget to hassle http://twitter.com/GalaxySsupport too.
Posted and tweeted. Let them hear our voices united.
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Don't forget to hassle http://twitter.com/GalaxySsupport too.
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Added to my harrass list. Will note however that I doubt this will bring about anything. They could care less how we the minority of users savvy enough to know the difference feel. They've sold near 10 million SGS phones.
Personally I think they should have froyo out a long time ago, HOWEVER if it's unstable, why release it? DK28 is close to stable but not for prime time. I'm running it and need to restart the phone about once or twice a day.
I suspect it was a management decision to not release it because if there are big issues and they release it around xmas time, who is going to be around to fix it or support all the end users complaining? Most of the people take vacations around mid December until January for holidays... Most likely they have short staff.
I think we'll see something in January when they have developers ironing out the last bugs and have a full support team. Maybe for CES??
On another note, I think they "leaked" 2.2.1 out for a reason.. let's beta test on the hard core folks... Lots of people complained about GPS and some other issues, so best to fix it first from their perspective. These leaks happen to go to typically more advanced users that can figure out how to revert back to stock without needing to call support...
Is there a such app that would do the same as an app called sms bomber but it would do emails or tweets lol then you could blow them up literally.....sprint
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Done and Done!
Gladly... thanks for the links!
Was reading around the pages and you guys are doing it wrong...
If your posting on a Sprint page, blame sprint, no matter what others say blame sprint and give evidence that its sprint..(if people blame samsung prove that is sprints fault)
(for those wondering international sgs did get froyo updates..it is official..not a rumor...the ones in canada were taken down but they were reinstated a week later and everything works)
If your on Samsung's page blame samsung and if people blame carriers prove that its samsungs fault...
This may sound contradicting but if your posting about how samsung sucks on a Sprint site..sprint does not need to defend samsung..they can let them take the blame..
same way the other way..
*evil grin* lol
I'm not sure of the timing but this was posted to phandroid after we started:
http://phandroid.com/2010/12/30/epic-4g-2-2-delayed-you-dont-say/
It would be nice for a carrier or manufacturer to give an official response instead of pushing the responsibility off to the retailers or customer service reps at the bottom.
Keep it going. Maybe we'll see something next week when the big whigs come back from their holiday vacation.
Oh and if you were looking key people:
http://www.dailyfinance.com/company/sprint-nextel-corporation/s/nys/key-executives should help you out.
Been doing tweets to @samsungservice, @samsungmobileus, @galaxyssupport and @sprint every couple hours now. Added @samsungtweets as well. Been doing facebook ones too but not gotten any official responses.
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Been doing facebook ones too but not gotten any official responses.
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That makes sense. No one is going to be around on their digial marketing team this time of the year. Hopefully when they return next week they'll respond.
Keep the chatter going though. The more attention the problem gets the more likely a response will be given.

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