I saw the hands on video of HTC Sensation today and It is starting to kill my desire for ATRIX
I'm also waiting to see if Bell Canada will offer Nexus S. Having a locked boot loader is painful on ATRIX and also no able to play H.264 video!
What do you think? Can ATRIX owners defend it or I should wait for Nexus S or some other device?
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"Performance was, as you'd expect from a 1.2GHz dual-core machine, snappy all around, though we still caught some slight lag and insufficient frame rates when the Sensation was dealing with some of those yummy new 3D animations"
Its basically if you want a 4.3 or 4 screen tegra 2 or snapdragon.
Motoblur or sense.
Less Ram, Smaller Battery, Less storage, 1080p out of the box, unlocked bootloader but you never know these days.
Everything looks great till you actually get it then a million complaints about it later.
What do you see so great about it?
If I get rid of my atrix it will be for something much much better not something that needs to be rooted/OC'ed/rom'ed to perform and get decent battery life.
I just want the 1080p/2.4 update sooner than later and I'll be fine for a while.
I would wait till there's some official reviews/tests/benchmarks, remember, everyone blew their load on the Atrix before it came out and we now know the Atrix sucks right....
By the time it comes to Canada, there will be quad cores out. lol
I'd still choose the Atrix over the Sensation
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do it. ive had the atrix for a month its not that great. plus sense kills motoblur. Actually sorry, the atrix is a great phone. my prob is with at&t mostly, which hinders the atrix imo. i havent seen the new htc device in video but ive read the specs and it sounds awesome, i dont know how much better the 1.2 dual core is than the tegra dual core so i couldnt make a recommendation. personally im returning the strix and moving over to tmobile for the g2x
What I want is ATRIX + Sense + Unlocked Boot Loader + I can play any movie on it without the need to re-encode!
I'm Ok with screen and every other complains about ATRIX and I don't care about how great is the video that it records.
Sense can happen if the Boot Loader gets unlocked but movie playback?!!
It sounds stupid but the Ad of Sensation got me with the new Sense UI
I would stick with my Atrix over the Sensation.
The Sensation comes with 4gb ROM but ONLY 1gb is available to you since Sense takes up 3gb along with the android OS. Atrix has 2gb to apps alone (with 11 for everything else). So if you wanted to store more than 1gb of apps, like say your pictures, videos, or music, you'd have to get a microSD card and pay extra for that.
Sensation's quadrant scores are really low right now. You can claim it is pre-release, but if its enough to be shown to the public and bragged about, then it is ready to be scrutinized in the mangled Quadrant benchmark scoring.
1 vs 1.2 is really no big deal since Android for phones are not optimized for dual cores right now anyways.
And a 1520mah battery for HTC.......yeah. I'll enjoy my 1920 right now thanks.
I gave it a good look, but I'm still really glad I got the Atrix and did not hold out for the Sensation.
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"Performance was, as you'd expect from a 1.2GHz dual-core machine, snappy all around, though we still caught some slight lag and insufficient frame rates when the Sensation was dealing with some of those yummy new 3D animations"
Its basically if you want a 4.3 or 4 screen tegra 2 or snapdragon.
Motoblur or sense.
Less Ram, Smaller Battery, Less storage, 1080p out of the box, unlocked bootloader but you never know these days.
Everything looks great till you actually get it then a million complaints about it later.
What do you see so great about it?
If I get rid of my atrix it will be for something much much better not something that needs to be rooted/OC'ed/rom'ed to perform and get decent battery life.
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I totally agree, i seen the sensation and it was ok, i'm not a huge fan of sense, but most of the important specs can't match up with the atrix, and my atrix right out of the box was a beast, with the sensation it seems u would have to tweak it to match the performance of the atrix(i could be wrong, but i doubt it), call it what you want but just because something is new doesn't mean that it's better, every device will have its flaws, the only one i found in the atrix was the locked bootloader, motoblur isn't a problem to me along with a lot of other complaints that i've been seeing people rant on, some people just complain a lil too much and don't give the atrix credit that it's due
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Actually the bootloader will be locked just like the Thunderbolt's was according to Paul O'Brien
"HTC on Sensation bootloader: no changes to current bootloader security strategy. *sadpanda*"
However as seen here, http://www.anandtech.com/show/4243/dual-core-snapdragon-gpu-performance-1-5-ghz-msm8660-adreno-220-benchmarks/2 the new Snapdragon's performance is probably better (taking into account that the Mobile Development Platform that Anandtech had was running on 2.3, had a 1,5GHz CPU and a screen resolution of only 800x480) than Tegra. Still I think that it won't make a big difference and in terms of other specs the Atrix equals or beats the Sensation, so I'll stick to mine for sure.
I'm a big HTC fan after my delightful experience with the HTC Desire Z. But although it's a great phone, I wouldn't get rid of my Atrix anytime soon. Even though we still have a locked bootloader.
Now, if I didn't have the Atrix then I'd probably jump all over this. But as great as the Sense foundation is, I'd wait until the devs are able to purge a lot of the junk so I can still get the Sense experience sans bloat. Sense is great but stock Sense is too bloated for my liking.
And what about the h.264 video play back, is there any solution yet?
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I think there's a 1080 recording mod out now? Just a little edit to a file, and you have to use lgcamera app..
I'm 99% sure the Sensation will be locked down. Why? Look at the Thunderbolt they had a lot of luck to unlock it. Do you think they will get that same luck again after HTC found out how they did it.
Also some versions only have 1GB internal storage and some have 4GB our Atrix has 16GB on board.
Also it has 768MB of RAM we have 1GB of RAM.
It's processor is 0.2 ghz more powerful you won't notice that difference but you probably will notice the ram difference and the app storage space difference. The Atrix uses a Tegra processor thus it can use the Tegrazone. The Sensation does not use a Tegra.
The only thing it has is the 4.3 inch screen. Depends who you ask some might like it.
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I saw the hands on video of HTC Sensation today and It is starting to kill my desire for ATRIX
I'm also waiting to see if Bell Canada will offer Nexus S. Having a locked boot loader is painful on ATRIX and also no able to play H.264 video!
What do you think? Can ATRIX owners defend it or I should wait for Nexus S or some other device?
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if you can play youtube hd video, you can play h264 video, just read a little about formats and codecs
the only thing i like about the new sense is the lock screen. I know we can use widget locker to achieve similar results but i have always felt that it is a bit clunky to use.
if we could get the new sense lock screen on the atrix i would be moist with desire
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I saw the hands on video of HTC Sensation today and It is starting to kill my desire for ATRIX
I'm also waiting to see if Bell Canada will offer Nexus S. Having a locked boot loader is painful on ATRIX and also no able to play H.264 video!
What do you think? Can ATRIX owners defend it or I should wait for Nexus S or some other device?
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There was nothing "new" that impressed me today about the Sensation.
People are drooling over the lock screen, yet I use "No Lock" on my Android devices anyway. Plus we have yet another underwhelming battery from HTC.
As for the Nexus S, I will never buy ANY phone that doesn't come with Micro SD...
tmobileus always has pretty open policy, right? (first gphone, open market)
htc sensation will not be lock(encrypted),,i guess
Just so you know Bell Nexus S is suppose to be released Thursday, April 14th. I'm probably going to pick one of those up instead of the Atrix or the HTC Incredible S...
Sensation would be the answer for those whose att canceled the unlimited data plan. I would go right away. Luckily I still have the unlimited and I think the Atrix is still a better phone. Not a big fan of 4.3" at least not now. Maybe in the future when 2 ghz, 2 gb ram, honeycomb and battery friendly lte device will replace my laptop, then I will go with an 4.5" screen...
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I decided after playing around with the inspire that I'm gonna return it on Tuesday and move up to the atrix. Anyone else doing this? Root has been obtained for inspire but its pretty complicated for a noob like me.
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Same here. I really liked the Inspire, think I'll like the Atrix more.
I'm also exchanging my Inspire for the Atrix. While I love the screen, I found the phone itself to be too large for my tastes.
It's likely that root on the Atrix, if it is achieved, will be far more difficult than the Inspire. The Inspire is just an AT&T version of the Desire HD which has been available for some time and is well understood. Being a "newb" and not understanding how to use a phone or do certain things is not a good reason to return one for another phone that will be as or even more complicated...
I already returned my inspire. I liked it but the battery issue was a deal breaker for me. I want a phone that at least will give me 8 hours of battery time, the inspire died in my pocket before lunch one day.
Same here. The battery issue and slow CPU.
The atrix is way better than inspire.
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Same here. The battery issue and slow CPU.
The atrix is way better than inspire.
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I am all in for the Atrix, but you would be hard pressed to find a phone other then the Atrix, right now that keeps up with the Inspire's CPU scores.. Not Dual-Core, but not slow.
Lol I know being a noob isn't a good reason. Yeah battery does suck though, sound sucks, led notification works half the time, and I'm getting some crappy yellowish tints on a lot of my pictures. In willing to take a $35 hit on restocking fee, plus extra $100 that atrix cost for the extra processor, ffc, and hdmi out.
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I am all in for the Atrix, but you would be hard pressed to find a phone other then the Atrix, right now that keeps up with the Inspire's CPU scores.. Not Dual-Core, but not slow.
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For quadrant I was getting 1700, for smart bench....can't remember scores but it was low...I remember seeing atrix pulling 2800 quadrant in a video from ces. 1100 difference is huge, my aria running cm 6.1.1 oc'd to 825 got 1102
Edit: ran smartbench because I was curious..got 861 productivity, 1273 games index...yeah reallllly low scores...I think quadrant favors snapdragon
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I bought my inspire for $99 4 days ago and ordered the atrix on the same account same number for $199.00 I will hold on to both and see which one is better. Right now the inspire is flawless and the atrix will have to do something really special to win this fight.
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I bought my inspire for $99 4 days ago and ordered the atrix on the same account same number for $199.00 I will hold on to both and see which one is better. Right now the inspire is flawless and the atrix will have to do something really special to win this fight.
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Yeah..bought mine without contract..do can't afford to keep both lol
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I bought my inspire for $99 4 days ago and ordered the atrix on the same account same number for $199.00 I will hold on to both and see which one is better. Right now the inspire is flawless and the atrix will have to do something really special to win this fight.
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How did you do that using the same line?? If it works i would definitely do the same!!
I am just wondering. Does a Dual core phone with 1GB RAM (not sure how much is usable) make so much difference in usage as compared to Inspire with 768MB RAM and 1 Ghz processor?
It's not like we have to use processor intensive apps like "matlab" or something
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Same here. The battery issue and slow CPU.
The atrix is way better than inspire.
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I am getting atrix as well and I am on inspire right now. yes it is a slower cpu then the one in atrix, but does it feel slow? inspire feels like the fastest android phone I have ever used up to this point. I really dont think it is atrix will feel any faster just because it has faster hardware. May be it will handle things better in the future. For now it has been great.
Inspire's already old tech. Good choice on returning it.
You got to admit... The inspire is built well. Man, that thing is a nice slab of metal! I would say it's the best built phone I've ever used. I too will be returning for the atrix (shipped tomorrow to my local at&t store) just for the battery life alone as the inspire's battery is real bad... My concern is the built QLT of the atrix. All cheap feeling plastic? Weird, as MOTO usually makes a solid feeling device... hmmm
I got the Inspire last week. Best thing about Inspire is Sense IMHO. It has the best email, phone and calendar software of any devce I know. BUT I think the camera, screen, battery and sound are all inferior (I also have a CaPTIVATE that has a perfect custom ROM so everything works). I will also give the Atrix a go and then decide which to keep.
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I will hold on to both and see which one is better. Right now the inspire is flawless and the atrix will have to do something really special to win this fight.
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Ditto........
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I am just wondering. Does a Dual core phone with 1GB RAM (not sure how much is usable) make so much difference in usage as compared to Inspire with 768MB RAM and 1 Ghz processor?
It's not like we have to use processor intensive apps like "matlab" or something
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Well... yes, depending on what you're doing. The dual core processor os going to let you do things faster, and help keep the phone from slowing down when running cpu intensive apps like games and sstuff.
The ram will help keep thongs open; with 512 I.can have a browser and maybe aan app pr two, but open a game then switch to the browser, and the game resets because android tries to run it all in the background.
More RAM will allow more things to stay open in memory along with allowing a smoother overall experience.
Captivate 2.2.1 Paragon
do you have to pay in order to return the phone? and/or is there a fee to exchanging it to an atrix?
HTC EVO 3D is coming to T-Mobile. It comes with :
- 1730mAh battery
- 1.2 GHz dual-core processor, Adreno 220 GPU, Qualcomm MSM8660 chipset
- 1 GB storage, 1 GB RAM
- 2.3 (Gingerbread)
- 540 x 960 pixels, 4.3 inches screen
- 5 MP, 2560х1920 pixels, autofocus, dual-LED flash camera
- [email protected] (2D), [email protected] (3D) video
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_evo_3d_with_tmobile_usa_3g_band_passes_fcc_testing-news-2837.php
Full specs:
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_evo_3d-3901.php
No set release date for T-Mobile version.
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Nice! I might go for this one, I believe it will come with unlocked bootloader? I played around on sensation and really didn't see anything special, interface was slower than my vibrant, but programs opened quicker.. I thought the screen was pretty good, was bright, and the higher res looked good too.
Thanks for the heads up!
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I will wait a week or two after it's released then read on Engadget about the many problems of the phone, and then i will decide if i get this or not.
3D on your phone? Useless in my opinion. But whatever. People will buy it.
I could care less about 3d, just want high res screen, 1 gig of ram and unlocked bootloader.
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Alright so now people on a whole nother carrier can get headaches from the 3d
I had a vibrant up until last friday when the evo 3d hit, and while i was expecting the 3d to be a gimmick, it was really kinda cool. You have to kind of adjust your eyes the first few times you try it but its nice. Quads are LOW (like 1600-2300)for a dual core phone but damn does it feel snappy as ****.
I miss my vibrant and the ease of use with that it brought with the flashing and odin operation, but im excited to see what this (evo 3d) will bring for me.
Funny htc said that they were going to unlock the bootloader. yeah go to htc facebook page and it is riddled with hate and what not, then a group #teamwin was able to gain root access and is working on s-off.
battery life is trash and i am going to buy a couple spare batteries, granted i use my phone quite a bit but i would use my vibrant more and get more life then 3d stock. Granted bali uv helped with my vibrant.
guess im just saying that I really like this 3vo and i would suggest it to others looking to upgrade. If given the choice between this or sgs2 i would go sgs2 only because i like how fool proof samsung has made their devices.
Bad Drivers + 3D Phone w/ Goggles On = Epic Fail
Not a big fan of 3D after seeing Avatar on the IMAX. Biggest headache ever. I'm sure people will still buy it and then 30day returning it. I like the EVO tho, my boss has one and it still runs like a champ.
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Alright so now people on a whole nother carrier can get headaches from the 3d
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+1 I'm not down with the whole 3d deal. I tried my friends gameboy 3d, and ended up with a splitting headache. The rest of the specs look great though.
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The 3D us better then gameboys. And I had a small headache the first day but not again after that
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Checked out an Evo 3D with my buddy today he WAS going to get one.. honestly it was crap.. Literally burns your eye balls out trying to look at the screen in 3D.. The specs are sweet, but compared to the Hercules thats coming out (probably the same time) its nothing..
I will deft, take a look
that sounds pretty awesome they'd get the EVO
Get the sensation then its pretty much the same phone without the 3D
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I could care less about 3d, just want high res screen, 1 gig of ram and unlocked bootloader.
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I guess they have rooted this phone or very close. my son has one the 3d didn't hurt my eyes. I don't think i would do everything in 3d but it's kinda cool. I will wait till christmass and look for some phone then. There will be a new wave of phones then like usual
I'd stick with the Sensation over this. Basically the same phone that's not the size of a brick, slightly less RAM..not a deal breaker.
Yeah yeah, I've seen the similar threads but they're not up to date especially with gingerbread released. I'm due for an upgrade on the 26th and want to get a new phone before college in mid August. I've posted a similar forum excluding the nexus on the gs2 forum, but I want to hear the other side. I prefer the 4" screen, but also want to root and not have motoblur, and I hear the phone lags when you do that. I realize the nexus s is single core but are dual cores that much faster with current software? I like longer battery life and an led notfier since I'm coming from a blackberry Curve. Can anyone say how the screens compare, I've heard the pentile display is terrible, but have yet to see for myself. Finally I'm told that the atrix does not have neon support, is that a difference for the average user? Thanks in advance.
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Yeah yeah, I've seen the similar threads but they're not up to date especially with gingerbread released. I'm due for an upgrade on the 26th and want to get a new phone before college in mid August. I've posted a similar forum excluding the nexus on the gs2 forum, but I want to hear the other side. I prefer the 4" screen, but also want to root and not have motoblur, and I hear the phone lags when you do that. I realize the nexus s is single core but are dual cores that much faster with current software? I like longer battery life and an led notfier since I'm coming from a blackberry Curve. Can anyone say how the screens compare, I've heard the pentile display is terrible, but have yet to see for myself. Finally I'm told that the atrix does not have neon support, is that a difference for the average user? Thanks in advance.
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I've had a nexus s and it does not lag at all, neither does my atrix. Single core or dual core it doesn't seem to make a difference to me. In my experience the atrix has better battery life. As far as the screens go that's a matter of opinion, the samoled seems more vibrant but is utterly useless in sunlight. As much as I hate BLUR, I chose the atrix over the nexus s and once we have an AOSP Rom I will have no regrets whatsoever.
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Yeah yeah, I've seen the similar threads but they're not up to date especially with gingerbread released. I'm due for an upgrade on the 26th and want to get a new phone before college in mid August. I've posted a similar forum excluding the nexus on the gs2 forum, but I want to hear the other side. I prefer the 4" screen, but also want to root and not have motoblur, and I hear the phone lags when you do that. I realize the nexus s is single core but are dual cores that much faster with current software? I like longer battery life and an led notfier since I'm coming from a blackberry Curve. Can anyone say how the screens compare, I've heard the pentile display is terrible, but have yet to see for myself. Finally I'm told that the atrix does not have neon support, is that a difference for the average user? Thanks in advance.
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I had the nexus s, it wasn't much of an improvement over my custom rommed Captivate, so I took it back. I was also looking forward to the Galaxy S2's release in America, until I got Gingerbread on my Atrix. There is no way the GS2 will be a substantial improvement over my Atrix now.
The Motorola Atrix was voted as the best phone at CES, and with Gingerbread it lives up to those accolades. Froyo and the ridiculous price of the lapdock killed this phone's initial release.
Take a look at the top results on Smartbench 2011, there is a reason Samsung delayed the GS2's release and overclocked it to 1.2ghz. Once the Atrix gets overclocked to 1.5ghz, those top results will change.
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Once the Atrix gets overclocked to 1.5ghz, those top results will change.
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So will the battery life lol
Also, does the lack of NEON support make a difference for the average user?
EDIT: reread my post, thought I didn't include the question, reread it again, realized I did.
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Also, does the lack of NEON support make a difference for the average user?
EDIT: reread my post, thought I didn't include the question, reread it again, realized I did.
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I was worried about lack of neon. But honestly it doesn't even matter at this point in time, apps don't even come close to making neon cpu make any difference whatsoever.
By the way, just got an atrix today! Found craigslist superb deal.
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I was worried about lack of neon. But honestly it doesn't even matter at this point in time, apps don't even come close to making neon cpu make any difference whatsoever.
By the way, just got an atrix today! Found craigslist superb deal.
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If you want to play normal or hi profile x264 it does.
Really annoying to have to re-encode to baseline x264. For xxxx's sake this phone can push 3D pixels like Samurai Vengeance II but can't handle HD video encoding, WTF.
I had nexus so and atrix together for two weeks. There is major performance difference between the two. Nexus s's 512 mb ram was the deal breaker for me, it was not enough. I think I'm spoiled by the 1gb ram.
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If you want to play normal or hi profile x264 it does.
Really annoying to have to re-encode to baseline x264. For xxxx's sake this phone can push 3D pixels like Samurai Vengeance II but can't handle HD video encoding, WTF.
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Saw a topic where someone played it with gingerbread, so no.
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I really like my Atrix, but I would wait and see what the next Nexus phone will bring.
Atrix ftw, i think its best phone so far for me
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Saw a topic where someone played it with gingerbread, so no.
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well thats welcome news. I'll do some research. A really time consuming thing to investigate (encode, copy to phone, see if it plays, rinse and repeat)
I own both and I prefer the Atrix.
With an AOSP ROM this phone will scream.
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Yeah yeah, I've seen the similar threads but they're not up to date especially with gingerbread released. I'm due for an upgrade on the 26th and want to get a new phone before college in mid August. I've posted a similar forum excluding the nexus on the gs2 forum, but I want to hear the other side. I prefer the 4" screen, but also want to root and not have motoblur, and I hear the phone lags when you do that. I realize the nexus s is single core but are dual cores that much faster with current software? I like longer battery life and an led notfier since I'm coming from a blackberry Curve. Can anyone say how the screens compare, I've heard the pentile display is terrible, but have yet to see for myself. Finally I'm told that the atrix does not have neon support, is that a difference for the average user? Thanks in advance.
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I would stay away from the Nexus S. Ya, it's Raw Goog but the sub-par RAM, single core chip and cheap plastic construction just aren't worth it especially on a new contract.
I'm loving my Atrix on GB, rooted, de-blurred (Titanium freeze) and running Go Launcher EX. I experience no lag, web browser is lighting fast, GPS is the best I've experienced from a phone. That's my experience and opinion. Considering the timing of your upgrade I would suggest checking the SG2 out as it may be more to your liking. Some people like Sammy HW some don't (I personally hate it, especially their damn "Chin" design philosophy).
That said, you cannot go wrong with the Atrix, it's an excellent phone. I traded in my Inspire 4G at a loss and don't regret my decision one bit.
Oh, and DL/UL speed in Houston, TX I've been averaging 3.5mb down (6 max) and 1.3mb up (2.1 max). Inspire 4G never made it over 2.5 down (1 Ghz. w/ 768mb RAM). Atrix is on par with my friend's EVO 4G (Sprint WiMax, he avgs 2-3 but has a max he's gotten of 7 once) and another friend's T-Bolt (Verizon LTE, 5-6 avg and a max of 8). And yes processor and RAM do affect your up/down as it's partially determined by the amount of data your phone can process, another reason to stay away from the S at this point.
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well thats welcome news. I'll do some research. A really time consuming thing to investigate (encode, copy to phone, see if it plays, rinse and repeat)
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Might have been my thread. I apologize, but I was wrong. Even tough performance has increased substantially (from 8-10 fps to an average of 24) when playing high profile h.264, it still isnt perfectly smooth and, for some reason, the episodes of Game of Thrones were mute for me, which indicates a continuing lack of support to audio codecs. After converting it with the Handbrake method, it worked flawlessly.
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The Atrix and the SGS2 have different offerings. SGS2 has a standardly overclocked processor, a bigger, brighter screen, less weight, and a GPU accelerated browser. The Atrix has a much higher pixel density, better battery life, and a specialized game store (Nvidia Tegra Zone which, despite the lack of titles in numbers, the ones it DOES have possess highly improved graphics over standard versions).
And for many of us, it has a lapdock, which is a perfect netbook replacement if all you do is work with word, excel, and light web browsing, being lighter and having better battery life than many netbooks. Its also fun like hell to play at customizing it
I like the overall build with the Motorola Atrix, but without the GPU accelerated and NEON support, would I be at a significant hardware disadvantage for everyday use? I feel I wouldn't. Also, any complaints about the screen?
Okay. Opera provides a gpu accelerated browser that is blazing fast. The screen is really nice, but you may notice grainy greens.
Edit: oh, neon support isn't an issue, at least for me. Most of my videos can be played using moboplayer.
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The atrix also is not sized like a giant brick but weighing like a feather toy (the #1 reason I didn't go for the SGS2). Form factor wins for me. Not to mention in Australia, atrix is 150-200 dollars cheaper.
I would say though with froyo it is noticeably inferior. But that's no longer an issue, whether stock or unlock BL/custom ROM.
If you want a big screen and fast phone....sgs2, if you want sething new and try some mods atrix, if yu are a hard modder HD2
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Now that there's actual photos of the AT&T galaxy family, would anyone consider it a superior choice? I kinda like the idea of a physical keyboard but I'm used to portrait like on my blackberry.
So I do like my Atrix but I have the chance to do a straight trade for a Sensation.
I love Sense and would like a better camera.
Atrix does have 16gb vs the Sensation and its 8gb card, but I hardly have any space used up on mine. Its just photos and apps that are taking space pretty much - maybe 4 songs.
I dont use webtop. I like knowing the Atrix has the HDMI out and for the sensation - it has the option to do it but you need to buy the adapter cable. As much as I like the thought of that feature, I havent even used it yet lol.
I knwo the battery life on the Atrix is obviously better. I would buy a spare battery for the Sensation though and just keep it in my wallet just in case, like I used to do with my Motorola Milestone. The battery isnt very big.
Both have the same resolution and qhd.
The ROM support on the Atrix is lacking, and it looks very populated on the Sensation.
My girlfriend has the Desire which I have ROM'ed for her and its ROM support is very active and up to date for a phone of that age - I can expect the same for the Sensation?
Anything about the Atrix that is worth keeping over the Sensation?
Anything about the Sensation that should warrant the trade to it?
Thanks guys
Tried my friend's Sensation out for a day and he tried my Atrix out for the same day.
The Sensation was slightly laggy, even for such a powerful processor (or was i just used to the smoothness of the Atrix?) camera was awesome and overall the phone is pretty damn good! However, he got it back with a full battery (had to charge it overnight or else it would die on me) whereas when he gave my Atrix back, it was still running on the charge from a day ago, after his heavy use too (albeit, it was nearly dead). If i was you, i'd stay with the Atrix, but at the end of the day, it's up to you.
Only if you don't mind losing battery life...
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Was your friend's Sensation running a custom ROM?
I would run ARHD on it and have Setcpu underclocking when needed as well. That ROM is said to have better battery life.
But as far as battery goes , Like I said I would just buy a spare and keep it with me. I did that with my Milestone and it wasnt much of a hassle.
And as far as the lag goes, there are TONS of animations in Sense, which I love the look of. If I wanted a period of time with no sense and more smooth performance, I would just throw on Go Launcher as my launcher, like I am with the Atrix
Apart from the battery life though, any other reason of sticking to the Atrix?
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Was your friend's Sensation running a custom ROM?
I would run ARHD on it and have Setcpu underclocking when needed as well. That ROM is said to have better battery life.
But as far as battery goes , Like I said I would just buy a spare and keep it with me. I did that with my Milestone and it wasnt much of a hassle.
And as far as the lag goes, there are TONS of animations in Sense, which I love the look of. If I wanted a period of time with no sense and more smooth performance, I would just throw on Go Launcher as my launcher, like I am with the Atrix
Apart from the battery life though, any other reason of sticking to the Atrix?
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AFAIK it was all stock, not even rooted. We just like to swap our devices every once in a while (done the same with game consoles). I'm not saying it's a bad device though
If your on AT&T your not going to get anything above 3g on the phone most likely will be stuck in Edge. The drop in the phone storage and the battery also not using Tegra 2 CPU which according to some websites and reviews I have seen say that the Qualcomm is about 10-15% slower than the tegra 2.
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If your on AT&T your not going to get anything above 3g on the phone most likely will be stuck in Edge. The drop in the phone storage and the battery also not using Tegra 2 CPU which according to some websites and reviews I have seen say that the Qualcomm is about 10-15% slower than the tegra 2.
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yea i dont see that as a good idea as your buddy who gets the atrix will be the clear winner in that trade!
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double posted, same reply as above, sorry!
I am in Canada, so not on AT&T
How would he be the clear winner?
As far as processor speed..
I'm sure those websites reviewed it as stock though, and not using an optimized ROM.
The Atrix is much faster using a ROM vs stock as well.
We all have difference opinions. Some may love it but some may not. Try testing out at places or with a friend and get the feel for it. Dev here are not very active just yet but in mean time they will.
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I am in Canada, so not on AT&T
How would he be the clear winner?
As far as processor speed..
I'm sure those websites reviewed it as stock though, and not using an optimized ROM.
The Atrix is much faster using a ROM vs stock as well.
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I used to have an atrix and personally.. trading it for a sensation was the best move ever. However, I had to add on a bit of cash
I hate how the atrix recognizes the internal as an "sd card" and my other reasons was because Sense>Motoblur (in my opinion!) and I liked the looks of the sensation more + on top of that, (correct me if I'm wrong) the development in atrix forums seemed to slow down.. and on the other hand, sensations dev is still going strong! I also think that the back cover is 100x better - but, there's also flaws with the sensation cover. Can't say it's perfect
Also everyone complaining about battery life.. my sensation was unplugged 10pm last night, went to bed, woke up with 90% remaining, went to work! Got home it's now 3pm and I'm at 55% (I had a ~30 minute call and lots of texts as well as gmail syncing 2 accounts/facebook/twitter) HOWEVER I'm using a different battery. Look up "Anker". This thing is a beast! Surprisingly, it's lasting very well. I wouldn't say the battery is an issue. With this 55% it will definitely last me until tonight!
Just my two cents! I'm also in canada as well and signal/speed isn't an issue either.
You seem to be defending the sensation a lot as if you want it, its your choice, so just go with whatever you want, everyone has their own opinions.
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You seem to be defending the sensation a lot as if you want it, its your choice, so just go with whatever you want, everyone has their own opinions.
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Well, if he defends it and everyone elses opinions/arguments are better than his, then the atrix will be the clear winner! and agreed with the opinions part!
I am not "defending" the sensation, since I dont even have it; its just that people are saying the Atrix is better but their arguments dont really justify it to the extent of them defending the Atrix lol
Of course we all have different opinions. I think one of the first things I said in the initial post was that I love my Atrix
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I am not "defending" the sensation, since I dont even have it; its just that people are saying the Atrix is better but their arguments dont really justify it to the extent of them defending the Atrix lol
Of course we all have different opinions. I think one of the first things I said in the initial post was that I love my Atrix
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i would stick on the Atrix bandwagon for a little while longer, we're about to get nightlies on CM7 which means all our devs will be able to work on their own individual projects again. the only reason our development slowed down was because ibproud organized most of the Atrix devs into a group to port CM7 for us; now that it's almost done, people will start building their own ROMs and hacks.
it may take a month or two more, but it'll most definitely be worth the wait
Very interesting question.
Here's how I weigh everything up.
Atrix:
- Faster processor (despite being 1Ghz vs 1.2Ghz)
- Better GPU (more effecient, less heat and THD games)
- Much brighter display
- More RAM
- Much better battery
- Better Touchscreen (Sensation has issues)
- No death grip issues
- Webtop and fingerprint scanner
Sensation:
- Better build quality
- Sharper display (RGB stripe vs PenTile)
- Brand recognition
- Better community
- Much better camera
So it's really up to you with what you prioritize.
OMG totally trade for the sensation I heard the next ROM will support quad core.
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So I do like my Atrix but I have the chance to do a straight trade for a Sensation.
I love Sense and would like a better camera.
Atrix does have 16gb vs the Sensation and its 8gb card, but I hardly have any space used up on mine. Its just photos and apps that are taking space pretty much - maybe 4 songs.
I dont use webtop. I like knowing the Atrix has the HDMI out and for the sensation - it has the option to do it but you need to buy the adapter cable. As much as I like the thought of that feature, I havent even used it yet lol.
I knwo the battery life on the Atrix is obviously better. I would buy a spare battery for the Sensation though and just keep it in my wallet just in case, like I used to do with my Motorola Milestone. The battery isnt very big.
Both have the same resolution and qhd.
The ROM support on the Atrix is lacking, and it looks very populated on the Sensation.
My girlfriend has the Desire which I have ROM'ed for her and its ROM support is very active and up to date for a phone of that age - I can expect the same for the Sensation?
Anything about the Atrix that is worth keeping over the Sensation?
Anything about the Sensation that should warrant the trade to it?
Thanks guys
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If i were you i'd look to swap for the sensation XE not the sensation as i believe the atrix to be better than the normal sensation
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OMG totally trade for the sensation I heard the next ROM will support quad core.
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?? Wtf?
Notorious544d said:
Very interesting question.
Here's how I weigh everything up.
Atrix:
- Faster processor (despite being 1Ghz vs 1.2Ghz)
- Better GPU (more effecient, less heat and THD games)
- Much brighter display
- More RAM
- Much better battery
- Better Touchscreen (Sensation has issues)
- No death grip issues
- Webtop and fingerprint scanner
Sensation:
- Better build quality
- Sharper display (RGB stripe vs PenTile)
- Brand recognition
- Better community
- Much better camera
So it's really up to you with what you prioritize.
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I wouldn't say that the Geforce ULP is betfer than the Adreno 220 GPU. Just look at the benchmark results on this page: http://www.anandtech.com/show/4686/samsung-galaxy-s-2-international-review-the-best-redefined/17 (don't forget the qHD resolution on all Adreno 220 phones either). Also the processor of the Atrix is not faster; it handles flash better because of software reasons, but that 0,2GHz difference is visible in Linpack, so I guess custom ROMs would unleash that power with software optimizations. Also something you left out is the lack of NEON support in the Atrix (no .mkv playback or high profile h.264).
I don't want to say that the Atrix is not a great phone - I had it for a while, but then sold it for an SGSII (great decision) - but the Sensation is just better imo.
The Nexus is tempting (as was Nexus S). But I'm going to stick with my good old Evo 4G. When it came out, it was the 1st superphone and so far ahead of its time that its still not outdated. My phone does everything I need and ICS will breathe new life into it. I don't think any of the new dual core phones are that much better.
My next upgrade will be to a 28mm SoC with integrated LTE that finally gives decent battery life on 4G.
I'm with you, but i do find it very hard not to get sucked into all of the constant hype around here. It is also tough when the devs you like start moving and you feel like you should follow with them. The EVO is still a great phone
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The Nexus is tempting (as was Nexus S). But I'm going to stick with my good old Evo 4G. When it came out, it was the 1st superphone and so far ahead of its time that its still not outdated. My phone does everything I need and ICS will breathe new life into it. I don't think any of the new dual core phones are that much better.
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Not outdated? Are you joking?
*Weak, single core processor. Dual core procs perform better. Period.
*Terrible, god awful graphics processor. Can't play any decent 3D games properly.
*Weak camera
*Terrible battery
*Average/Below average screen. Blacks aren't really black, resolution is low.
The Evo was(is?) a nice phone, but saying that it isn't outdated is a straight-up lie.
I was just thinking the same thing...the evo has been the one phone that I haven't gotten bored with even though I've had it since July of last year It was much more fun on Sprint but even on Metro (to save money) it's still a great device.
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Not outdated? Are you joking?
*Weak, single core processor. Dual core procs perform better. Period.
*Terrible, god awful graphics processor. Can't play any decent 3D games properly.
*Weak camera
*Terrible battery
*Average/Below average screen. Blacks aren't really black, resolution is low.
The Evo was(is?) a nice phone, but saying that it isn't outdated is a straight-up lie.
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It's still better then what 90% of people out there have, quit being melodramatic.
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I moved on to the Epic Touch only because I cracked the screen to a million pieces. EVO is an excellent phone and I miss the ROMs but this epic is an amazing phone. We have development going on and it's getting there but I honestly feel like there's a black hole without my EVO haha idk. And don't get sucked into that LOS problem. If your not stupid, you'll figure it out.
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I keep going and checking out the new phones and honestly, I have not found another phone to WOW me just yet. I have had mine since almost release day and with MikG ROMs, it runs great for everything I want to do. The dual 1.2 might be faster but not that much faster for what I use it for. I can email, text and watch Netflix on it. Ohe yeah, i make calls too! What should a smart phone do?
I will look at the real HTC EVO2 when it comes out but until them, I will keep my EVO!
I use my Evo every day despite having numerous more advanced devices. Mostly as a hotspot. But after using lots of dual core devices, man....you're clueless if you really think the dual cores aren't a massive upgrade. Evo was a bomb phone at the time, but at the rate tech advances....using my Evo the same day as my G2x or EpicTouch is painful. Every single interaction is slow as hell.
But it definitely holds a place in my heart and is definitely my overall fav of the phones I've own(ed).
Without the Evo, we wouldn't have the 4"+ size as the minimum standard for smartphones, 4G and so much else which is now common. Also it is one of the best supported phones in the dev community, and will be for a while. I can't wait to see what ICS will look like on it.
There is a night and day difference between a stock Evo and a rooted one with a nice Aosp rom like decks/Miui. I honestly don't feel like its slow and I use it for a ton of stuff, except 3d games.
For 99% of people, its more phone than they need, even today. That is not outdated. Not everyone wants to buy the top of the line greatest device, right?
Question for people who moved on - did you notice better reception, gps, or battery life? Besides performance, that's what matters most.
Even though part of me really wants a new phone, for most things, I am satisfied with the EVO.
Part of me kind of wants to wait for mid next year in order to really appreciate the upgrade from my EVO to what will likely be a quad-core beast......imagine the jump in speed upgrading from a single-core to quad, heh.
The Evo is way outdated in the numbers game, but it does everything I need and has a sweet kickstand.
This was also the first and likely only smart phone to wow me. When I first got into smart phones I had my G1 and was familiar with other devices like iPhone but the Evo blew me away the first time I saw one.
My only reason to upgrade was to not lose my upgrade. I bought a phone that I know will sell for big dollars.
I sort of like it now...it's a great phone for when I don't have time to screw with android.
The Evo is far from outdated. Despite it's age, it's hardware is still more than competent.
Yes, new CPUs may have improved instruction sets and/or optimizations to take advantage of, but the Snapdragon in the Evo is still hearty enough to run Android just fine. Although the Adreno 200 GPU is not a monster in the 3D department, it still leverages more than enough for almost any application, including most games.
Ice Cream Sandwich will take advantage of hardware acceleration, which will get more from the Adreno 200 than we ever have before, and should actually make Android run faster and be less CPU-intensive than previous iterations of Android.
The EVO, although dated, is still a strong device. Sure, we all have a desire to upgrade, and if you don't want the Galaxy Nexus you're lying--but honestly, there is little real reason to upgrade. ICS is going to run like a top on the Evo, and reinvigorate most user's experiences with their devices.
The EVO was my first smartphone, and I can say im probably gonna hang onto it for a while more. It does everything I need!
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Until Sprint launches the upcoming Nexus, I'm happy because of two words: Boot Manager. I have five ROMs that I flow through... Can't beat it.
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When I buy a new phone, the decision is not 'is this better than my current phone?'. It's 'is this phone good enough to last the next 2 years?'.
Evo passed that test. The Nexus does not. esp not at the $300 price point.
Really at a conundrum though. I love the development of HTC phones. The Nexus intrigues me, but the lack of ROM development for Nexus phones (outside of Cyanogen variants and Miui) makes me wonder if I will get bored.
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I would miss my EVO a lot when it comes time to upgrade. Gonna hang out as long as I can. The EVO design isn't too much of an upgrade in my opinion, the EVO 3d really catches my eye but the 3d would just be a novelty played out quickly. The photon is wierdly shaped lol and the epic touch is too thin in my opinion. Just my opinion, don't flame me but I feel like I would break it in my hands.
I'm personally gonna wait to see if HTC releases anything else exciting since I'm not due for an upgrade for another year anyways.
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Not outdated? Are you joking?
*Weak, single core processor. Dual core procs perform better. Period.
*Terrible, god awful graphics processor. Can't play any decent 3D games properly.
*Weak camera
*Terrible battery
*Average/Below average screen. Blacks aren't really black, resolution is low.
The Evo was(is?) a nice phone, but saying that it isn't outdated is a straight-up lie.
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While the processor is only a single core, it still flies in my book. Waiting for a quad core phone... Whew.
The GPU may not be the best, but it does what I ask of it, and that's what matters. I haven't had any problems with 3D.
I'm still amazed by the fact that they put an 8 MP camera in a phone.
The battery life only sucks if you leave it completely stock and don't root it. Find the right ROM and kernel and battery life is dramatically increased.
The HVGA display is plenty of resolution for a phone. My blacks are black and my colors are bright...
I have a question for you...are you sure we're taking about the same phone? Because I'm pretty sure I'm in an EVO 4G thread.
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