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I need to admit, its a lot.
But, i wonder how the memory is being shared. The HD2 has 428MB of total Ram.
But 128MB is being used by the GPU. The question is, is the 428MB ram, really global ram. Or is the 128MB ram dedicated ram for the GPU ( like the 2700g has 16MB dedicated ram ).
If its global ram, then maybe its possible to reduce the ram amount to 64MB or 32MB, and use the rest for programs... So many open question, so little information about the snapdragon's design
For instance, the Toshiba TG01 & Asus F1, both have 256MB global ram. But does that mean that both companies did not report the 128MB "extra" ram, in there total like HTC does. Or does it mean, that they use a smaller part off the 256MB ram, for its GPU.
i'm hoping that its going to be in preperation for what comes with Winmo 7, perhaps gaming, maybe MS requires such a high amount of vram as a standard?
Doesn't it have 448MB? 320+128?
Dark Fire said:
Doesn't it have 448MB? 320+128?
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Yes, you are right. My bad. It's indeed 448MB.
Yeah. 448MB = 128MB dedicated video memory, plus 320MB conventional memory.
I suspect other vendors probably simply don't advertise video memory; it's also possible, of course, that they have a unified memory architecture (e.g. that the TG01 and Acer F1 use their main 256MB of regular memory to store video in); that might account for the Leo's 3D graphics benchmark scores exceeding those of the TG01.
Had been the same with the Xperia X1, there where also rumors that it does have (maybe has, don't know how to chekc this) 128 MB dedicated Video RAM. Don't care to much about it. It'll be fast enough anyway!
sthoeft said:
Had been the same with the Xperia X1, there where also rumors that it does have (maybe has, don't know how to chekc this) 128 MB dedicated Video RAM. Don't care to much about it. It'll be fast enough anyway!
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Is it even confirmed that 128 MB is indeed for VRAM, or is it just speculations so far (even though I'm inclined to think the same)?
Zhuk86 said:
i'm hoping that its going to be in preperation for what comes with Winmo 7, perhaps gaming, maybe MS requires such a high amount of vram as a standard?
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It doesn't look like it will work on WM7 !!!!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4802767&postcount=4
alecs said:
It doesn't look like it will work on WM7 !!!!!!
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Core requirements:
Processor: ARM v6+, L2 Cache, VFP, Open GL ES 2.0 graphics HW (QCOM 8k, Nvidia “Tegra” AP15/16* and TI 3430 all meet spec)
From that single post it states that WM7 needs a Tegra graphics chip... but from the release QCOM 8k also meets the requirements, and the Leo will have Snapdragon QSD8250 1 GHz processor..
Am I missing something?? it seems it should be upgradable to WM7.
alecs said:
It doesn't look like it will work on WM7 !!!!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4802767&postcount=4
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According to B3ler3fonte who gave us details about the Leo in the general thread (here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=560143&page=48) it will be compatible with winmo 7.
In order to save some answers, I am posting you a far more detailed specs of Leo, so, as u can clearly see from the specs, u’ll notice (and I think it was a question which was circulating from loads around this thread, of whether future WM7 will or will not be supported by Leo) that it will be absolutely supported. I think we should all celebrate!!
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why_999 said:
Core requirements:
Processor: ARM v6+, L2 Cache, VFP, Open GL ES 2.0 graphics HW (QCOM 8k, Nvidia “Tegra” AP15/16* and TI 3430 all meet spec)
From that single post it states that WM7 needs a Tegra graphics chip... but from the release QCOM 8k also meets the requirements, and the Leo will have Snapdragon QSD8250 1 GHz processor..
Am I missing something?? it seems it should be upgradable to WM7.
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Sorry I must be missing something, from this spec list I can't see anything related to QCOM 8k ?
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=2062&c=htc_hd2_us_htc_leo
alecs said:
Sorry I must be missing something, from this spec list I can't see anything related to QCOM 8k ?
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=2062&c=htc_hd2_us_htc_leo
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Qualcomm 8k = Snapdragon's QSD8xxx-series chips = Qualcomm Snapdragon QSD8250 (which is in the Leo).. so the processor should meet WM7 chassis 1 requirement.
why_999 said:
Qualcomm 8k = Snapdragon's QSD8xxx-series chips = Qualcomm Snapdragon QSD8250 (which is in the Leo).. so the processor should meet WM7 chassis 1 requirement.
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Thanks Why_999 I wasn't aware that the snapdragon was Qualcomm 8k series processor.
i think it should be reserved memory actually for some sense UI things and similar stuffs . not dedicated video RAM
Isnt 128 too much just for clouds? There are 3 variants possible:
- someone was speculating with specs in his blog and the rumor broke out;
- thats for gaming purposes( see wm7);
- thats for iphone graphics emulator)))
RAM is split between ARM cores, general-purpose ARM11 and radio ARM9. Portions can be reserved for other purposes (video acceleration for one) too. Chances are there's ~256Mb of RAM accessible from OS on HD2, which is fairly reasonable, IMO. More RAM means less battery life...
It's "just" to have the 1Go needed for WinMo7... I am sure our cookers will change this to get the best of this awesome phone
Hi everybody,
is it possible to install Android on my T3238+ clone running WM:
These are the specs:
CPU Marvell PXA300 624MHz
ROM 256 MB
RAM 128 MB
Display 240x320 QVGA 65536 colors
Bluetooth 2.0
WI-FI B/G
Internal GPS
The hw is mostly the same as the Sciphone N19/N21
I've also seen that there is a dual boot application to choose which OS boot.
Waiting some response...
Thanks in advance
m4dbra1n said:
Hi everybody,
is it possible to install Android on my T3238+ clone running WM:
These are the specs:
CPU Marvell PXA300 624MHz
ROM 256 MB
RAM 128 MB
Display 240x320 QVGA 65536 colors
Bluetooth 2.0
WI-FI B/G
Internal GPS
The hw is mostly the same as the Sciphone N19/N21
I've also seen that there is a dual boot application to choose which OS boot.
Waiting some response...
Thanks in advance
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Not yet, coz each design house uses different LCD/Camera/TP...etc... Andriod will not work even on a very small change! I am quite familiar with 3238+, I will try to post it if they have the tool and image ready!
hakkinen60 said:
Not yet, coz each design house uses different LCD/Camera/TP...etc... Andriod will not work even on a very small change! I am quite familiar with 3238+, I will try to post it if they have the tool and image ready!
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Thanks a lot, I'll stay tuned
m4dbra1n said:
Thanks a lot, I'll stay tuned
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Got some not so good news for u! I asked the guy who assembly the T3238+ yesterday, and he told me that unless he got an order for more than 1000pcs....otherwise he won't spend effort to make it work on 3238+. There will be a lot of new models comming out after CNY(Chinese new year), and price will be around USD120-140. Keep u inform then! Right now there is a clone(1:1) HERO that runs on WM6.5 and track ball. The tooling is really nice....and more important is that I can provide u technical support on this model...... lol Cheers!
Hero clone
How can I buy one of the Hero clones from you?
So, here is the thing, i bought my father a phone from one of those chinese imports, at the time i didnt quite check the autenticity of the product, i looked at the price and purchased, well, my father will never figure it out ir its real or not, im just asking out of curiosity
Here is the link of the item i purchased
www . aliexpress . com / snapshot / 100404380 . html
(remove spaces)
Sorry, it seems i cant post links, but its sort of necessary for this question
Its funny that even the box looks real, what caught my attention were the sound holes in the back
Anyways, looking for some expert eyes on it, its payed already, im not going to regret my purchase or anything, its just out of curiosity, the link above is filled with imgs of the phone.
Thanks in advance.
By looking at the 6th and 8th pictures (bottom of the phone; open back of the phone) in the description, you can easily tell it's fake. The 3.5mm headphone jack is missing from the bottom of the phone, the hardware Home Button (should be between Call and Start) is missing, and the back of the phone does not have that layout. Heck, the provided battery is 1500mAh, whereas the stock HTC HD2 battery is only 1230mAh.
DSkhury said:
So, here is the thing, i bought my father a phone from one of those chinese imports, at the time i didnt quite check the autenticity of the product, i looked at the price and purchased, well, my father will never figure it out ir its real or not, im just asking out of curiosity
Here is the link of the item i purchased
www . aliexpress . com / snapshot / 100404380 . html
(remove spaces)
Sorry, it seems i cant post links, but its sort of necessary for this question
Its funny that even the box looks real, what caught my attention were the sound holes in the back
Anyways, looking for some expert eyes on it, its payed already, im not going to regret my purchase or anything, its just out of curiosity, the link above is filled with imgs of the phone.
Thanks in advance.
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fake......
Lol figured it was,
It seems it comes with the same processing unit tho, snapdragon 1 ghz, hopefully my dad will never notice the diferece, anyone knows if its possible to install android on this fake phone?
sadly no its not an hd2 and therefore hd2 roms will brick it
DSkhury said:
Lol figured it was,
It seems it comes with the same processing unit tho, snapdragon 1 ghz, hopefully my dad will never notice the diferece, anyone knows if its possible to install android on this fake phone?
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Yes Android can be run on it...there are special custom ROMs....a search should do !!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=916087
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=969661
Source: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=988070
DSkhury said:
Lol figured it was,
It seems it comes with the same processing unit tho, snapdragon 1 ghz, hopefully my dad will never notice the diferece, anyone knows if its possible to install android on this fake phone?
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I don't think so.
Cpu: 533M Hisilicon (updated to be Qualcomm Snapdragon QSD8250, 1GHz)
RAM + ROM: 256MB
(Updated software to be 512ROM +488 RAM)
4.3inches resistance touch screen-Does that mean i can punch it and it will survive?
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
Resolution: 480 X 800 WVGA
Windows Mobile phone 6.5
Cpu: 533M Hisilicon (updated to be Qualcomm Snapdragon QSD8250, 1GHz)
RAM + ROM: 256MB
(Updated software to be 512ROM +488 RAM)
Dual Camera 3.0 mega camera dual LED flashlights and auto focus - Dual Camera 3.0 WTF? hahaha its totally fake but an interesting buy
Let me know how it goes
This one sounds like a more legit HD2 Maybe Not But Id Go For It
http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/405273898/windows_mobile_phone_hd2_dual_sim.html
windows mobile phone hd2 dual sim
1 dual sim standby
2 dual camera about 8.0/1.3
3 windows mobile 6.5
4 wifi gps
Features:
Windows Mobile 6.5 OS smartphone
Quad-band:GSM900/1800/1900/850MHz;
Fashionable Shining Style:
4.3” TOUCH Screen WVGA Capacitive Screen:480x800 pixel resolution;
4.3'' big screen capacitive screen dual sim smart phone
Language:Chinese/Japanese/English/French/German/Greek/Finnish/Italian/Swedish/Spanish/Dutch/Norwegian/Danish/Czech/Polish/Portuguese/Russian/Korean
LCD Size :4.3 inches WVGA, 800x480px
OS:Windows Mobile 6.5
CPU :MTK6516 460*2
GPS :Support
WiFi :Support, 802.11b
Memory: 512M RAM ,256M ROM , built-in 8GB standard ( 16GB for choice )
Music: Perfect bass output, equipped with one professional earphone
Camera ual cameras( Front 1.3MP,Back about 8.0MP camera, auto focus )
Video: 3GP/MPG4/AVI/ASF/WMV/RMVB/AMR video; MP3/WAV/WMA audio
FM :radio Support
Data Transfer USB/Bluetooth, U disc under the third party software, activsync
Telephone directories 100000 groups, unlimited telephone directory, can record more than 20 items
Games built-in PPC games,can download thousands of PPC 3D games,JAVA 3D unimited download.
More information Office softwares and other PPC softwares
Color black
Size 121x 67 x 12.6 mm
Weight 150g
mrxkills said:
This one sounds like a more legit HD2 Maybe Not But Id Go For It
http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/405273898/windows_mobile_phone_hd2_dual_sim.html
windows mobile phone hd2 dual sim
1 dual sim standby
2 dual camera about 8.0/1.3
3 windows mobile 6.5
4 wifi gps
Features:
Windows Mobile 6.5 OS smartphone
Quad-band:GSM900/1800/1900/850MHz;
Fashionable Shining Style:
4.3” TOUCH Screen WVGA Capacitive Screen:480x800 pixel resolution;
4.3'' big screen capacitive screen dual sim smart phone
Language:Chinese/Japanese/English/French/German/Greek/Finnish/Italian/Swedish/Spanish/Dutch/Norwegian/Danish/Czech/Polish/Portuguese/Russian/Korean
LCD Size :4.3 inches WVGA, 800x480px
OS:Windows Mobile 6.5
CPU :MTK6516 460*2
GPS :Support
WiFi :Support, 802.11b
Memory: 512M RAM ,256M ROM , built-in 8GB standard ( 16GB for choice )
Music: Perfect bass output, equipped with one professional earphone
Camera ual cameras( Front 1.3MP,Back about 8.0MP camera, auto focus )
Video: 3GP/MPG4/AVI/ASF/WMV/RMVB/AMR video; MP3/WAV/WMA audio
FM :radio Support
Data Transfer USB/Bluetooth, U disc under the third party software, activsync
Telephone directories 100000 groups, unlimited telephone directory, can record more than 20 items
Games built-in PPC games,can download thousands of PPC 3D games,JAVA 3D unimited download.
More information Office softwares and other PPC softwares
Color black
Size 121x 67 x 12.6 mm
Weight 150g
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The internal storage and RAM are pretty low. If I was buying a clone, I'd at least get 1024 storage and 1024 RAM. And preferably the snapdragon CPU.
EDIT: But the key thing to realize is that it will probably NOT work with the standard custom ROMs in these forums; it has different hardware. So whatever you get is what you have for an OS.
Hello Guys what do you think about the new Version of WP ...
Do you think it is Possible on our HD² ?
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OMG you just kill my eyes, who can this be possible
Hello Guys what do you think about my awesome choice of colour
do you think you will be able to see ever again!!
just read an article. confirmed that almost all if not, every single phone running WP7 will not be able to run WP8. WP7 users will get the 7.8 update. Adding some of the features of 8 to us 7 users.
My hd2
ayopancheezy said:
just read an article. confirmed that almost all if not, every single phone running WP7 will not be able to run WP8. WP7 users will get the 7.8 update. Adding some of the features of 8 to us 7 users.
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We all know by now that our lovely HD2 is either a wp7 or wp8 phone and not even an android phone yet we have seen it rock the mobile world just fine. I really hope the developer who have given my HD2 a very happy and long life will still push to the edge to see if there is any chance of getting wp8 on HD2.
Thank you and hoping for the best
after some research and some articles i have read today.
there's no chance to run WP8 on HD2. maybe we can get 7.8
as blackinaction said, the same was claimed for WP7 and we do have it now on our HD2. No one can be sure that we will not have WP8 also.
We'll see what cotulla say about wp8 on HD2 when first rom would be released.
btw MAGLDR 2.0 will be released soon.
i hope the HD2 sees the light of WP8. I hope there are more apps and everything.
I wouldn't hold my breath on further development on the HD2 beyond 7.8. Besides a handful of cooks development has come to a halt.
I think that WP8 will be available for our HD2 !! I think really !
Nixeus said:
I think that WP8 will be available for our HD2 !! I think really !
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Long live HD2, Windows Phone 8 will be here, let's pray
of course GOD cotulla will bring WP8 to HD2.:good:
Must...have!
will release today
Hardware limitations is the only factor that would prevent us from having wp8 on the hd2 but the chefs never cease to amaze me..
Long live the hd2 and prosper!:highfive:
blackinaction said:
We all know by now that our lovely HD2 is either a wp7 or wp8 phone and not even an android phone yet we have seen it rock the mobile world just fine. I really hope the developer who have given my HD2 a very happy and long life will still push to the edge to see if there is any chance of getting wp8 on HD2.
Thank you and hoping for the best
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Yes, that was what I thought. Imagine if HD2 could only be stuck in the jurassic WM 6.5 with Sense with all the hardware it has? Wow...
I put WM 8773 ROM in my HD2 (came out from 1,5years into WM6.5) and wow... It's simply incredible.
I think HD2 does have hardware to support WP8... Maybe not for some games, but in general, I'm pretty sure.
Hoping for the best!
ctito said:
Yes, that was what I thought. Imagine if HD2 could only be stuck in the jurassic WM 6.5 with Sense with all the hardware it has? Wow...
I put WM 8773 ROM in my HD2 (came out from 1,5years into WM6.5) and wow... It's simply incredible.
I think HD2 does have hardware to support WP8... Maybe not for some games, but in general, I'm pretty sure.
Hoping for the best!
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I agree
I heard that HTC will release 3 cell phones for WP8
HTC Rio
RAM : 512 MB
CPU: 1 or 2 cores Qualcomm
Display: WVGA 400 x 800
4 inch
14.4Mbps HSPA
HTC Accord
RAM: 1024 MB
CPU: 2 cores Qualcomm S4 Plus
Camera : 8 MP - 1080p video ..ـــ 30fps
Display: 720p - Super LCD 2
4.3 inch
42Mbps HSPA+
NFC Support
HTC Zenith
RAM: 2048 MB
CPU : Quad Core Qualcomm
Camera : 12 MP - 1080p video ..more than ـــ 40 fps
Display: 720p - Super LCD 2
4.7 inch
42Mbps HSPA+
NFC Support
So If you compare HD2 with these 3 phones, we can understand that HD2 is equal HTC RIO
the only problem I think, is DRIVERS.
of cotulla or other cookers can solve the driver issue, we will have WP8 on our HD2 as the first people.
Mehrdad201 said:
I agree
I heard that HD2 will release 3 cell phones for WP8
HTC Rio
RAM : 512 MB
CPU: 1 or 2 cores Qualcomm
Display: WVGA 400 x 800
4 inch
14.4Mbps HSPA
HTC Accord
RAM: 1024 MB
CPU: 2 cores Qualcomm S4 Plus
Camera : 8 MP - 1080p video ..ـــ 30fps
Display: 720p - Super LCD 2
4.3 inch
42Mbps HSPA+
NFC Support
HTC Zenith
RAM: 2048 MB
CPU : Quad Core Qualcomm
Camera : 12 MP - 1080p video ..more than ـــ 40 fps
Display: 720p - Super LCD 2
4.7 inch
42Mbps HSPA+
NFC Support
So If you compare HD2 with these 3 phones, we can understand that HD2 is equal HTC RIO
the only problem I think, is DRIVERS.
of cotulla or other cookers can solve the driver issue, we will have WP8 on our HD2 as the first people.
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Interesting... But I wonder the video-card of HD2, if it'll still be able to run "60 fps" interface and the games. And HD2 (at least mine) only shows 372mb RAM, added to the high-heat, which means I guess that the phone is working hard a lot to keep the OS stable and smooth with all the features.
Well, this is a strong cellphone, I hope it can run also WP8 smoothly and so do we all.
ctito said:
Interesting... But I wonder the video-card of HD2, if it'll still be able to run "60 fps" interface and the games. And HD2 (at least mine) only shows 372mb RAM, added to the high-heat, which means I guess that the phone is working hard a lot to keep the OS stable and smooth with all the features.
Well, this is a strong cellphone, I hope it can run also WP8 smoothly and so do we all.
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I tested WP7.5 and also Android on my HD2
in my idea, heat is significantly more when I am running Android.
and HD2 has 576 MB of ram.
And finally we have to wait for the future news.....
Now that Windows Phone 8 is out. Is it possible that we will see it on the HD2 anytime soon, or at all?
every day same questions....
NO
we get 7.8 when be released....
jeje same post time to time
dxdy said:
every day same questions....
NO
we get 7.8 when be released....
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We already have 7.8...
it not a really wp7.8, only have new UI. wait…
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TheEdge24 said:
We already have 7.8...
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this not 7.8... is only demo of new UI...
Wp 8 would be great but unfortunately it's out of reach for hd2.
Seems best Os for this phone will stay Android
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maneken25 said:
Wp 8 would be great but unfortunately it's out of reach for hd2.
Seems best Os for this phone will stay Android
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every people have own opinion... for me Android is worst than WP7... i never have better battery performance on Android compared to WP7... Android maybe have better choice of apps and OS customization but WP7 more secure and spyware/virus free...
dxdy said:
every people have own opinion... for me Android is worst than WP7... i never have better battery performance on Android compared to WP7... Android maybe have better choice of apps and OS customization but WP7 more secure and spyware/virus free...
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I agree, needed to mention that is my opinion.
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Minimum hardware requirements for Windows Phone 8:
-Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 dual-core processor
-Minimum 512MB RAM for WVGA phones; minimum 1GB RAM for 720p / WXGA
-Minimum 4GB flash memory
-GPS and A-GNSS; GLONASS is supported if OEMs decide to include it
-Support for micro-USB 2.0
-3.5mm stereo headphone jack with three-button detection support
-Rear-facing AF camera with LED or Xenon flash, optional front-facing camera (both need to be VGA or better) and dedicated camera button
-Accelerometer, proximity and ambient light sensors, as well as vibration motor (magnetometer and gyroscope are optional)
-802.11b/g and Bluetooth (802.11n is optional)
-DirectX graphics hardware support with hardware acceleration for Direct3D using programmable GPU
-Multi-touch capacitive touch screen with minimum of four simultaneous points
Dual-Core processor and DirectX graphics no suported for HD2. Developers are demostrated that can broke limits but not easy.
only time will tell
Let's see at :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2021030
nang
Nang06 said:
Let's see at :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2021030
nang
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unfortunately nothing new... and not usable... but people like to post non stop about this