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Greetings all,
I upgraded my 8125 to the Qtek ROM via summiter's ROM upgrade tool, (worked perfectly, thanks summiter!) and I enabled push email.
Since I didnt have and Exchange server, I signed up for one with 4smartphone.net after reading about them in PocketPC Mag. Anyone use them? there's a 15 day trial, but they couldnt get my account setup right after calling them 3 times and about 4 hours wait, then it seemed to work, push email worked great..
Now this morning, they're server is unresponsive again.. jsut wondering if anyone uses them and what their experiance with them is.. i'm not to happy with them right now..
I would also be interested in this. I need to find a good shared exchange provider and I am thinking about going with Intermedia.net.
I wasn't happy with the response I got on a pre-sales query. So I used 1and1.co.uk instead.
They provide push mail (but don't list it) and support a multi-domain email. The only down side is that they don't provide spam filtering. But I figured out how to block it (spam) via filtering.
fowen said:
I would also be interested in this. I need to find a good shared exchange provider and I am thinking about going with Intermedia.net.
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I have been using 4smartphone for about a month w/o difficulty -- I use Outlook rules to send copies of all my office mail to 4smartphone which then pushes them to my k-jam. Only negative in this is that all the msg. come in with my name and address as the sender (no prob changing this if I use reply but it is an extra step). Service is quite fast and so far w/o problems in either direction.
well, just got an email from them about the server outage, with them profusely apologising.. at least they're letting their customers know about it..
another thing i didnt really like is you have to pay for a full year up front.. although right now i'm diggin' the fact that i get push email(tested i get an email within 15 seconds of it being sent), and also that my Outlook on my laptop and my 8125 are fully synced.. if i read it on my 8125, it's listed as read on my laptop and vice versa, so i dont have to re-read anything or whatever.. pretty slick.. they also sync contacts, tasks, calendar, etc too..
they have a 15 day trial, so im gonna give it another week or so and see how it goes..
Just signed up for this at mail2 web. I used to use them ages ago just to check a couple of pop3 accounts at work, but they are doing a beta of a free hosted Exchange service. Even better is that you can get a personal Exchange account for $1.99 a month. You need to create an email address with them, but you can link other pop3 accounts to it as well.
http://services.mail2web.com/FreeServices/m2wLive/
What I like about 4smartphone.net is that when you send mail through them, it will show as your own pre-set email address and not [email protected].
I just finished the trial and signed up for their Express service. I think you can get your money back (pro rata) if you cancel before your subscription expires.
I was considering 1and1.co.uk or 1and1.com too, but couldn't be asked to change all the settings.
I've been using 4smartphone since January and so far I am very happy with them. I have sent about 4 emails to tech support and I received responses within a few hours and they were very helpful. They even verified that my account switched from SMS notification to direct push when I asked (after I upgraded).
I really like using them, so much so that I got the company I work for to sign up with 4smartphone. There are a total of 9 people at my work. Great customer service and a great price.
I just setup a mail2web account and had some problems getting either the txt message based push to work or the direct push to work.
After I contacted them they told me this functionality hasn't been installed and will be done over the next week.
good service
I used 4smartphone when i was working from my office at home and the service was good. I am in a 30+ staff office now and we use Intermedia which is great to. I've got my email set up on my blackberry and you can check your email through outlook on the web which is convenient as well.
www.emoze.com has just come up with a push email feature for mobiles and pdas.
i just wanted to know if anyone has tried out the service and how is it?
i don't have an outlook exchange server so i can't really set up direct push on my 8125.
I just checked and Emoze does not support the Qtek 9100 yet
try selecting the Tmo MDA.. same thing.. i'm downloading the program now to see if it works..
ok, stay away from it for now, it is in beta, but here's what happened to me..
1. it replicated my contacts about 40 times.. i had to go thru and delete duplicates... ugh..
2. Program on the PC desktop crashes randomly, it crashed 4 times in a 30 minute period..
3. kinda flaky performance.. it works as in the push email function, it notifies you, but then it took 3-4 trys on the PPC to get out of the notification/program and see the actual email in outlook..
give it time and if they perfect it a little, this will be very cool to have..
g0nk said:
ok, stay away from it for now, it is in beta, but here's what happened to me..
1. it replicated my contacts about 40 times.. i had to go thru and delete duplicates... ugh..
2. Program on the PC desktop crashes randomly, it crashed 4 times in a 30 minute period..
3. kinda flaky performance.. it works as in the push email function, it notifies you, but then it took 3-4 trys on the PPC to get out of the notification/program and see the actual email in outlook..
give it time and if they perfect it a little, this will be very cool to have..
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Cool, thanks for the input. Hopefully they'll fix the bugs soon so we can use it.
replicated my contacts also, it states that you cannot have activesync running while this program is running, which is kinda ridiculous...another thing is, it runs OFF of your computer, uses your OUTLOOK, nothing on their end, its just a piece of software...in other words, if your computer is off, no email....useless if you ask me
Ya know, it's a shame the T-Mobile's SMS-based notification feature isn't a bit better tuned. It really works well - just takes to long to notify your phone of a new event.
For anyone who hasn't tried it. When you go to the T-Mobile website, you can put in the info for one or more of your non-T-Mobile email services. You can use POP3 or IMAP4 servers along with your SMTP server, and you specify your email login and password.
After that, you can click on the feature in your MDA that retrieves specs for your email account from T-Mobile's servers, and pocket Outlook will set up an appropriate additional account for you in the MDA. With this all set up, you can, in addition to your normal way of checking your email, check your email account via the T-Mobile website or via your MDA simply by doing a Send/Receive on the MDA in the Messaging app.
The neat part that T-Mobile hasn't quite implemented 100% is that you can have their server monitor your email account for new incoming messages, and in turn send a "silent SMS" to your MDA to let it know when new email has arrived. Then your MDA automatically kicks off a Send/Receive, fetches whatever email is waiting on the server and notifies you.
This works quite well. The ONLY problem is that that it may take way too long for you to be notified that something new is on the server. This could be due to one (or both) of two possibilities:
1) T-Mobile's back-end servers may not be monitoring and checking your email server frequently enough. If it checks for new email every minute, that's great - but if it waits 30 minutes between checks, that's about the best you can hope for when waiting for your MDA to be notified about new incoming mail.
2) Even if T-Mobile's back-end servers "know" that your email provider's servers have new mail for you once a minute, that only helps if the "daemon" (or whatever process they use) sends the "silent SMS" to you immediately. If the "silent SMS" is queued up, and the process to send them out is delayed, or possibly scheduled to happen once every 30 minutes, we have yet another way in which it takes too long for your phone to be notified that new email has arrived.
Whichever delay is causing this, it would be fantastic if T-Mobile could fix it. If they did, this would, functionally, serve the purpose of push email for many of us -- especially for those of us who have unlimited messaging as part of our plan with T-Mobile.
despite the bugs, it worked great, and i'm gonna keep an eye on their progress..
This is basically the program i've been looking for. Something that I can load on my own PC (since it's on 24/7) and have it sync my inboxes on my 8125.. it was nearly instantaneous when it worked on my system..
a note to people that want to try this though...
1. BACKUP YOUR CONTACTS!!!!
2. Make sure ActiveSync is set to not sync anything, and turned off.
3. Then run the program..
I wish it was more stable, and i'd use it all the time, but until then, im sticking with POP updating every 2 minutes..
I can't get it to work on my PC in my office. My company uses a proxy server and the desktop app can't connect to the internet. Any suggestions?
not really sure.. but keep an eye on this thread from their forums, the emoze team might respond with an answer..
http://forum.emoze.com/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=44
I have trying mail2web.com it uses push for activesync for free.
working very well.
mail2web isn't true push, its pull...
PiTT said:
mail2web isn't true push, its pull...
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I think they started push service in their "live.web2mail" bbeta but I could be mistaken as I have not tried it. Even if it free it wont be for long as MS has pretty expensive licensing fees per user to use exchange server. I think they have 6 months where they can claim 0 users. The emoze you need your home pc on all the time. For me it would be ok cuz i always keep my pc turned on but for a lot of people i dont think they do that.
Any news on this? Is it working yet? I keep my computer on all the time and was looking at running Exchange Server from it to get Push Email, but maybe I'm better off waiting for this?
I've been using a mail3web live account for a couple of weeks and it works very well. I just had to set up mail forawrding from my own ISP. I'm pretty sure it's not push email but it works fine through active sync on the PPC as long as I remember not to kill the application. You can set it to synch with the sever as often as you like and as I'm a bit worried about getting a large bill and I'm not too wooried about getting everything instantaniously I've set mine to synch with the server every two hours. If I want to check more frequently I just hit send/receive.
Dave
Whoops - no I haven't discovered a new one! The above should read mail2web live account!
Dave
I've been using mail2web for a few days... its cool.... and push email too, but that needs a few tweaks before it works properly
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I've been using mail2web for a few days... its cool.... and push email too, but that needs a few tweaks before it works properly
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ok, so can you please tell us more...any link for the tweak? thanx...
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jamichy said:
I've been using mail2web for a few days... its cool.... and push email too, but that needs a few tweaks before it works properly
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ok, so can you please tell us more...any link for the tweak? thanx...
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There's no tweak. mail2web just upgraded to Exchange SP2, so if you've got a ROM in your wizard that supports push (I'm using the 2.17 custom on my TMO MDA), sign up for a free mail2web account, forward your email there from other accounts, and follow the diretions to set it up on your Wizard, and you will get true push email now.
The only problem I have is that I forward my gmail to my mail2web, and once or twice/day I notice I'm not getting e-mail, sign in to my gmail account and under the forward it says gmail is having trouble forwarding to that account. I push try again, and it starts sending my email again for maybe a day. I think mail2web is either having a problem receiving so much mail (there's been a big buzz about it on xda and howard last few weeks), or else it might be a problem with their spam filters...
MC
thanx for ur reply...that's exactly what i did and got a gmail account too and everything's ok here...all my mails are directed to my mail2web account ( actually live.mail2web.com account)
But can not succeed in push to mail...my rom is the "test only" one I think it's the one before the official 2.17....Any chance to get it work though?
Many thanx...
Hey all.
I have tried Flexmail and found it wanting - I think mine had issues, activesync failed to sync to directory and the rules were quite limited. Still waiting for their support teams to sort out several issues with move and stuff. even if they can get it working I can't see it being good enough in it's control.
So we are back to poutlook and it's limited functionality.
Are there any decent programs out there for message filtering. I get 300+ emails per day and over 150 are total rubbish 50 are newsletters and notifications which I file.
and half a dozen orders buried in this lot that I NEED to deal with immediately.
any suggestion please
Cheers
G
Well - I don't know if this will work for you, but I have all my email come through my Yahoo account. On the server side, I have about 60 rules/filters set up. This way, on my inbox on my phone, I already get them filtered. I have been using Yahoo for years and now-a-days I get a spam email in my inbox about twice a year. If you have not set up a web based account yet, I would actually suggest gmail for the push capabilities. But I don't know how their filters or spam protection work.
Just as an aside, I used to use FlexMail and most of the time when I could not get something working, it was my fault. It is a very powerful application. I finally decided it was too powerful for my needs on my cell and switched to ProfiMail. You might want to check out their rules/filters. I don't use the filters on the phone, so I can't help you there, but it is a pleasure to use.
I use IM heavily for work - corporate Jabber server, GTalk, AIM, Windows Live are all in play during my day.
One of the big problems I have with a tablet is that when I want to get up and leave my desktop and bring my chat with me, different services use different criteria for where to send new messages.
- Some send to the last client that sent a message out.
- Some send to the client with the highest priority ID (set in expert settings in most clients)
- Some send to the last client to log in.
In short, it's a mess, and I always wind up missing messages because of it. Logging out on the PC and in on the tablet manually is a bummer too when you want to just grab it and go.
I just downloaded the new Trillian release, which works on Honeycomb. I happen to be using Trillian on my Win7 machine as well. Check out the release notes:
http://blog.ceruleanstudios.com/?p=1949
It works as advertised. Chat history (both directions) are mirrored on all connected clients, and I can seamlessly chat between any of them. I can even load it up on my iPhone if I'm leaving the house.
History is stored serverside as well, so you have chat logs on all clients.
I'm NOT affiliated with Cerulean. I didn't even like Trillian that much in general until now. I just think it's probably the best chat client for Honeycomb or any mobile device just for this feature that works across ALL IM networks. Not just Google Talk.
Yep. I have been using trillian for 5 years. Love it.
I stopped using Trillian when they switched to a central server configuration and had my information/chats on their servers. Wish they offered a standalone IM app for Android, they did make a very nice chat program prior to that switch.
me tooo been using it for years
I need users who are using exchange servers to please do the following for me:
Send yourself a test e-mail from a non exchange account like hotmail, ymail, yahoo, gmail, etc. Or heck, PM me and I'll mail you.
Reply to that e-mail from your Xoom
Note whether or not the reply actually sends or sits in your outbox
Respond here with the following data:
Xoom Model: Wifi / 3G
Android OS should be: 3.1
Exchange Server Version: 2003/2007/2010
Did your reply send: Yes / No
I am using:
Xoom: 3G
Android: 3.1
Exchange: 2003 (SP2)
My reply: Sits in outbox
- New emails work fine.
- Replies sit in outbox.
Worked fine for me.
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Xoom 3g powered by Verizon
Android 3.1
90% sure we are on exchange server 2007
My reply was sent.
Fine here - We run a Zimbra server.
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Fine here - We run a Zimbra server.
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Thanks, I guess I should look up what a Zimbra server is but I assume that you set it up the same way in the Xoom as an Exchange server account?
Xoom: wifi
Android: 3.1
Exchange: 2007
My reply: sends everytime (assuming connected to wifi )
also, I should ask, have you tried deleting and reconfiguring the mail account?
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Xoom: wifi
Android: 3.1
Exchange: 2007
My reply: sends everytime (assuming connected to wifi )
also, I should ask, have you tried deleting and reconfiguring the mail account?
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No I have not, but I will do that right now.
Zimbra is an Open Source alternative to Exchange. Has 90% of all the stuff Exchange does and takes up all of $300.00 bucks a year of our budget. Which I could not pay if I wanted too, but I like it too much not not support development of it. FOSS FTW!
I deleted and reconfigured the account, careful to include DOMAIN/username and use the fully qualified domain name that my SSL certificate is named after and the results were the same:
I can generate new e-mail, which is sent fine.
I cannot respond to e-mail, it sits in the outbox.
Maddening.
Can anyone on Exchange 2003 test this?
I had the same issue last week. I haven't done any further testing, but I do think we have an exchange 2003 server.
Xoom Model: Wifi
Android OS should be: 3.1
Exchange Server Version: 2010
Did your reply send: Yes
Worked fine for me.
I am on:
XOOM (rooted, Tiamat 1.4.2, HC 3.1)
Microsoft Exchange 2003
My reply emails hang in the outbox. They don't send.
i use 2003 SP2. stock unrooted xoom wifi.
all works well.
however, last week i had a 3G launch day (feb 24) xoom and last week *I* had an issue where the emails sat in the outbox. i then, later that day it happened, received a security update OTA from the server. this may have been what the intermittent issue was.
now let me say the emails started flowing thru before i got this update. i would guess my downtime was a couple hours. i did not delete my account. it just "corrected" itself.
ill also add that i have an evo on the same server and it did not stop sending emails at all. so this may be a honey OS thing...
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I am on:
XOOM (rooted, Tiamat 1.4.2, HC 3.1)
Microsoft Exchange 2003
My reply emails hang in the outbox. They don't send.
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Xoom Wifi (Stock)
Exchange 2007
All works fine
Im finding out that some people i can respond to and some i cant. I have no idea what the issue is at this point.
Xoom wifi stock 3.1
Exchange 2003
Does not work, hangs in outbox.
I got fed up of the stock email client and moved to touchdown. The problem i was having was sync weren't working properly, all of a sudden stopped syncing.
I have exchange 2003, touchdown works fine
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I got fed up of the stock email client and moved to touchdown. The problem i was having was sync weren't working properly, all of a sudden stopped syncing.
I have exchange 2003, touchdown works fine
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I have not tried touchdown but after reading the user reviews I think that the UI will be terrible, and UI is important to me.
So far now, I will make due with being unable to respond to some users until this sorts itself out.
I like the TD UI, it's made for tablets now too (I didn't know that until I bought my Xoom two weeks ago). I use it on my HTC Inc too, and have never had any issues. I think you can use TD as a trial version for 30 days (?) to test it out and see how you'll like it.
We run Exchange 2007, and I use my Xoom 3.1 rooted and Inc rooted with out issues.
Xoom Model: 3G
Android OS: 3.1
Exchange Server Version: 2003 SP2
Did your reply send: No - Hangs in out box, hitting send all now does nothing.
Other bugs noticed:
Text entry cursor seems out of wack, doesn't show up in the same place as the movable green pointer. This also seems the affect the text black selection brackets. Very language (laggy), many edits to this post to make it readable
Wifi oddities with releasing and renewing IPs between two bssids.
Web browser not displaying some dynamic page elements properly, example - there is no scroll bar on this text entry box...making this post even more interesting (I have XDA Premium, but I like to torture myself).
This is all on stock 3.1, non root, locked Xoom
Omg...I give up
cwizardtx said:
I need users who are using exchange servers to please do the following for me:
Send yourself a test e-mail from a non exchange account like hotmail, ymail, yahoo, gmail, etc. Or heck, PM me and I'll mail you.
Reply to that e-mail from your Xoom
Note whether or not the reply actually sends or sits in your outbox
Respond here with the following data:
Xoom Model: Wifi / 3G
Android OS should be: 3.1
Exchange Server Version: 2003/2007/2010
Did your reply send: Yes / No
I am using:
Xoom: 3G
Android: 3.1
Exchange: 2003 (SP2)
My reply: Sits in outbox
- New emails work fine.
- Replies sit in outbox.
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I am willing to bet the problem is being caused by the changes made to activesync between ES2K3 and ES2K7. If I had to really guess it has to do with the 3.1's handling of ActiveSync connections and their dependence on policy based permissions inherited from ActiveSync. Unfortunately ActiveSync from ES2K3 did not support the use of ActiveSync policies, that feature was not added until ES2K7. That's why until the release of Exchange 2007 the only truly viable corporate messaging systems were based on BlackBerry servers.
I retired my 2K3 infrastructure 2 years ago, but I believe I still have the virtual machine builds from my test environment I can load up and test the theory.