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T-mobile and HTCs view on rooting?

I was thinking if anyone knew about htcs and t-mobiles view on rooting

Well, if they wanted you to do it, than they wouldn't be patching off the root access or the app. So I would reasonible believe they don't want you to. Another thing is they do not warranty work on rooted devices

What do you mean they do not warranty work on rooted devices

Meaning a rooted device loses its warranty if its sent in rooted, if its been flashed back then it still has its warranty...

I doubt Google and HTC care if we root our devices, they don't loose out, and they sell rooted phones any way (ADP1 and I think the ION is rooted too). I guess the only reason google would care is app piracy...
M..N said:
What do you mean they do not warranty work on rooted devices
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If you root your phone, kiss good bye to your warranty. It really doesn't matter though, if it's a hardware issue you can unroot and they'll never know, and if it's bricked you can say it was update that bricked it.

Has anyone in the uk replace their phone successfully

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Has anyone in the uk replace their phone successfully
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What do you mean?

I mean has anyone in the uk replaced a bricked phone caused by the new spl without any problems

HTC aren't going to bothered with what people do, neither are Google really. It's the network operators which want to tie people to their crap and have you pay for it.
The issue is with the warranty and if you broke it, Asus, for example, aren't bothered what OS you run on their hardware, but if you flash a bad BIOS then it's your fault. ATI, nVidia, Gigabyte etc encourage overclocking but won't honour warranty if it causes damage.
Google are likely to secretly want rooted phones as more network operators mangle the OS to suit themselves in the future and push their own services over Googles.

M..N said:
I was thinking if anyone knew about htcs and t-mobiles view on rooting
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My guess is that T-Mobile doesn't want rooting because it allows tethering.
Tethering generally causes an increase in data usage, and an increase in bandwidth use by the phone. This can impact T-Mobile cell towers and other T-Mobile customers if too many tethered phones are sucking up bandwidth on a particular tower.

gridlock32404 said:
Well, if they wanted you to do it, than they wouldn't be patching off the root access or the app.
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My recollection is that that bug was patched because it allowed any app to gain root access for itself, not just the end user. Hopefully I don't need to explain why that's a bad thing. The patch didn't specifically patch out root access for the user because root access for the user was never a design feature to begin with.
M..N said:
I was thinking if anyone knew about htcs and t-mobiles view on rooting
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If you really want to know the official views of these companies, email or call them. Most of the members of xda-dev are not employed by/affiliated with either company, and as such it is impossible to tell if they're telling truth, passing along unverified rumor/hearsay, or just making bs up.

gridlock32404 said:
Well, if they wanted you to do it, than they wouldn't be patching off the root access or the app. So I would reasonible believe they don't want you to. Another thing is they do not warranty work on rooted devices
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You can also look at it like they don't care if you do it but they don't want a one click solution that will allow every freakin retard out there to do it. Think about it how many stupid questions do we get from people who used the one click vs ones who did it manually.
Also having an app with that kind of access to the phone means ANY app can have that kind of access to your phone including the bad evil kind you dream of making gridlock.

The problem with rooting is this;
Some very small number of people understand the system and can be fully self-sufficient with full root access.
And then you have the others, who want root for whatever features come with it... and some of them start messing with things they don't understand and end up in a huge mess... and then send it back for warranty work because their device doesn't work right any more. This means MUCH more support from the retailer/manufacturer. The other side of this is that if you have a whole lot of people trying things like cyanogen's latest unstable mod and show it off to a whole lot of people, and it crashed like nuts, then the people who see it don't necessarily understand that it is due to running crazy experimental stuff and instead think that 'droid itself is junk.... which is incorrect.
So preventing root access means that you have a simpler, more consistent, and more reliable environment, which means a better platform reputation and lower overall support costs.

lbcoder said:
The problem with rooting is this;
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There's another point of consideration. While I know I just wrote about the unverifiability of some posts on xda, i'm going to have to do a complete 180 and do just that. I can't confirm since I'm not a handset maker (nor do I work for one), but i'm quite confident in believing that in order to acquire Google's consent and software support to create a Google Experience phone, root access has to be restricted from the end user. Again that's all speculation.

lbcoder said:
The problem with rooting is this;
Some very small number of people understand the system and can be fully self-sufficient with full root access.
And then you have the others, who want root for whatever features come with it... and some of them start messing with things they don't understand and end up in a huge mess... and then send it back for warranty work because their device doesn't work right any more. This means MUCH more support from the retailer/manufacturer. The other side of this is that if you have a whole lot of people trying things like cyanogen's latest unstable mod and show it off to a whole lot of people, and it crashed like nuts, then the people who see it don't necessarily understand that it is due to running crazy experimental stuff and instead think that 'droid itself is junk.... which is incorrect.
So preventing root access means that you have a simpler, more consistent, and more reliable environment, which means a better platform reputation and lower overall support costs.
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Good breakdown.

StanSimmons said:
My guess is that T-Mobile doesn't want rooting because it allows tethering.
Tethering generally causes an increase in data usage, and an increase in bandwidth use by the phone. This can impact T-Mobile cell towers and other T-Mobile customers if too many tethered phones are sucking up bandwidth on a particular tower.
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I dunno about in the US, but this would most likely be T-Mobile UK's problem.
The terms of the contracts say that you can't tether with the standard net package, you need to upgrade to the next one (extra £10 instead of £5) to be able to use your 3G/HSDPA connection on the PC.
Problem is, with phones like the G1 how would they know? If it was something like an old Sony Ericsson W810 they would know straight away due to the amount you were downloading but on a G1 you can view full webpages anyway, download images etc and programs via the market. So really they have no way of knowing if you're tethering of not. Hence they want to try and stop tethering from being an option.

Fingerlicken, why would I Target a system I use, if I let out any kind of evil it would be against an Iphone.
Why does Linux have so little viruses, cause most of the hackers use linux

gridlock32404 said:
Why does Linux have so little viruses, cause most of the hackers use linux
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Wha? I think you have your cause and effect mixed up. Also, this thread is getting off topic.

2.1 update NOT happening Friday May 7th!

http://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/30479?tstart=0

I suppose you realize that the admins on the Sprint forums know just as much as the front line tech you get when you chat or call them right?
Either way, I don't care when (or if) it comes out. I'm perfectly happy with the customized ROMs we have now.

QUOTE=VoXHTC;6398994]http://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/30479?tstart=0[/QUOTE]
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Yes I'm aware thanks, This post wasn't for you.

wonbattlelost said:
im sorry, a little confused. are you saying the 2.1 update is not happening at all, or just not on may 7th?
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It's still slated for first half 2010 (according to the sprint forums), but the last post on twitter said early first half 2010, which would technically give them about 10 days.
They ARE still planning to push out 2.1 to the Hero and Moment.

Re: 2.1 update NOT happening people!
i find it funny the sprint forums are called baw. baaaaaw.
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I will be laughing my ass off if it did come out on Friday and that admin was wrong.

I'll be very indifferent whether the update comes out or not...

Second post in the topic totally refutes you:
They couldn't do that even if they knew.
The admins and staff on BAW can't announce something before the Sprint PR department officially announces it or OKs the announcement themselves.
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Now that we have the 2.1 roms will it really be that big of a deal when it comes out other then for the people on unrooted stock.

who cares about the official update i have given up on phones that sprint are responsible to update lol, sprint sucks i am seriously considering going to verizon these days, verizon has always had the best phone selection, more smart phones than any other provider out there, just so freakin expensive is the only problem

I want that damn update just so I can have a ROM without the audio loss that keeps happening! I can't get away from it no matter where I go.

Sprint is the undisputed king of dropping the ball on updates, had the Hero not been rooted before my 30 days was up I would have gone to Tmo.

smw6180 said:
I suppose you realize that the admins on the Sprint forums know just as much as the front line tech you get when you chat or call them right?
Either way, I don't care when (or if) it comes out. I'm perfectly happy with the customized ROMs we have now.
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I kind of care because I would like to see an Official 2.1 ROM, this leak doesn't let me send emails from exchange just reply.

Your title is a little misleading...
like another member said before me, the admins did not say that. all they said was they don't know..

No one at the BAW forums has come forward and said "this update is not happening May 7."
This is very telling because in the past, they have directly refuted most of the rumored dates.

captivate said:
Your title is a little misleading...
like another member said before me, the admins did not say that. all they said was they don't know..
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Im guessing you didnt scroll down and read post 9 when the ADMIN said
"I can officially (no, really) state that it is NOT going on Friday, May 7 2010.
When is it going? Sorry, no one has that information for publication.
I can confirm that we are continuing to test the 2.1 build for both Hero and Moment and we are committed to delivering the update in the first half of 2010."
IM definitely not sayin he is right or saying he is wrong.. Only showing that an admin actually did say this. Some people i guess cant read.

Will England (Wengla03) at BAW is usually well informed on these matters and was always forthcoming with info on Sprint's last red headed stepchild (Instinct) in the past. I trust his info over any other "leak", though I do hope he is wrong.

troyboytn said:
Will England (Wengla03) at BAW is usually well informed on these matters and was always forthcoming with info on Sprin's red headed stepchild (Instinct) in the past. I trust his info over any other "leak", though I do hope he is wrong.
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Its really funny over there on sprints forums.. Someone made an off topic "joke" post and everyone joined it and was just talking. One of the admins got her pantys in a bunch and actually deleted peoples post that were off topic. Yet there was no topic but joking. She locked the thread for it starting to get off topic. Even wengla the admin joined in and said something before it was locked. Its like all the admins over there are so desperate to get action and constantly delete and end threads.
And i remember going threw all the instinct updates.. They were at lease muchhh better at setting general times (within the week) of when an update would come out. If it got moved back they would come out and say, its been moved back, expect it on this date.
The hero update, Sprint has been just simply terrribblee at keeping the customers in the loop.

Demoyo23 said:
who cares about the official update i have given up on phones that sprint are responsible to update lol, sprint sucks i am seriously considering going to verizon these days, verizon has always had the best phone selection, more smart phones than any other provider out there, just so freakin expensive is the only problem
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Verizon has always had the best phone selection?!? Did you forget the sarcasm tag?

Our Fight Against Verizon

If you haven't heard all ready Verizon is tracking down root users and limiting there data or fully suspending it so watch out. But we have to fight back against them by hiding Verizon from seeing that we are proudly rooted and some people have said the would sue Verizon. Please do whatever you can to fight against this.
Also motorola and htc are going to start doing the same.

tyvallely said:
If you haven't heard all ready Verizon is tracking down root users and limiting there data or fully suspending it so watch out. But we have to fight back against them by hiding Verizon from seeing that we are proudly rooted and some people have said the would sue Verizon. Please do whatever you can to fight against this.
Also motorola and htc are going to start doing the same.
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Wow... just... wow.... First off, they MAY be tracking phones. Second, there is NO proof they are limiting anyones data or suspending service. I only posted that because it's something that MAY be happening, and people should be aware. It wasn't meant for fear mongering.
If you would have read the whole article, you would have seen that this is an INDUSTRY WIDE thing. Not just Verizon.
There is no need for ANYONE to freak out right now.
IF its true, and they are tracking people who have loaded GB on their phones, there isn't a damn thing you can do about it now, so just sit back and enjoy your damned GB Droids.

I am about 80% positive they are tracking after I googled for 5 hours.

tyvallely said:
I am about 80% positive they are tracking after I googled for 5 hours.
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It's very possible, and I wouldn't blame them too much. They should have a way to detect fraudulent warranty claims.
And for those of you who think rooting your phone and loading custom ROMs shouldn't void the warranty, your wrong. The carriers and OEMs put software on the phones they KNOW work. They DON'T know if the custom ROM you are using will work correctly.

I have no problem with rooting at your own risk (ie: Voiding warranty)....that's quite frankly, the way it should be, because if I'm overclocking my device I understand I'm increasing the chances of damaging the internal hardware in my phone. Nevermind, all the people who brick their devices because they don't know what they're doing.
I would hope that Verizon doesn't have the balls to try and go after people who are not doing anything illegal with their rooted device though (ie: Not tethering, regardless of how you feel about it). It's already been established that it's legal to root your device. Myself, while I've downloaded the tethering app, I've never used it for more then 30 seconds to try it out and see if it worked. I only downloaded it for emergency purposes, and I've yet to have said emergency.

Why would the carriers even care if we're rooted and using custom ROMs as long as we're not doing anything bad, like the aforementioned tethering? We paid for our phones and we pay our bills, so we should have the right to do as we please as long as we're not infringing on others.
As for me, I will stay rooted and if a class action suit is filed, will happily join in.

My question is' if we installed the non rooted version of gb, are they tracking that too?
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phoenixus said:
My question is' if we installed the non rooted version of gb, are they tracking that too?
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They have been tracking root users long before the GB leak. From what I've read, they have been looking at who doesn't take updates. I don't know exactly if they put any snooping file in the GB leak or not.
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Guys I really don't think they will be doing this. I understand that root should be a void in warranty, and totally agree with that, but if they shut off our services for having root, than a lawsuit should be made. They have no right to shut them down. Doesn't that breach that law made like a year ago about jailbreaking/rooting?

HerroMoto said:
Guys I really don't think they will be doing this. I understand that root should be a void in warranty, and totally agree with that, but if they shut off our services for having root, than a lawsuit should be made. They have no right to shut them down. Doesn't that breach that law made like a year ago about jailbreaking/rooting?
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Well, you could argue that rooting your device is legal, but carriers don't have to let them on their networks.
Anyways, I highly doubt any carrier will be cutting anyones service.
I think what they might do is this:
They will send a notice to everyone that they are tracking root users, their meids will be flagged to ensure no warranty claims can be filed by them, and that if caught tethering without paying, they will be charged a fee.
That would be a logical way to go about it.

orkillakilla said:
Well, you could argue that rooting your device is legal, but carriers don't have to let them on their networks.
Anyways, I highly doubt any carrier will be cutting anyones service.
I think what they might do is this:
They will send a notice to everyone that they are tracking root users, their meids will be flagged to ensure no warranty claims can be filed by them, and that if caught tethering without paying, they will be charged a fee.
That would be a logical way to go about it.
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Exactly what I was thinking. That might be a no go with root for me. I need my warranty. Tethering is honestly not a huge deal to me, but if my warranty is gone I don't know what I'd do. I'm sure if one carrier does this, they all will start rewriting their policies.

This thread seems a bit incendiary.
I'm not sure what lawsuit people intend to file against Verizon. It isn't clear that tracking rooted users violates those users' rights in any way.
As for denying warranty service, I have rooted every Android phone that I've had, and I have no problem if Verizon denies me warranty service on any phone that I have rooted (so long as the problems could logically be related to rooting). I also modified my car when it was under warranty, and if the dealership denied me service on the exhaust, that would have been fine (although they couldn't deny me service on, for example, the suspension).
If I brick my phone, then that is my fault - Verizon shouldn't have to give me a new one.

I have no doubt that they are tracking/logging rooted users. Maybe this is why GB got leaked in the first place? This is all a result of the community.
The ones that tether the 20ish gb of data a month, to the "noob" that roots and messes something up and instead of reading up on how to fix, they just return it to Verizon. I broke a D2 a few months back, but instead of returning it, I bought a new one at full price because I was rooted. Its just a moral thing to me.
As long as you don't tether alot or do anything else illegal, I believe that just being rooted will not result in a termination of contract. That's just my opinion.
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This is what I found out. They are tracking use to try and detect those who are tethering. AT&T is also doing this now to try and find out who is tethering w/o the appropriate packages. What they will do when they find the un-authorized tethering people is beyond me, that wasn't told to me. I was also told not to install the GB leak. This comes from a very reliable source within Verizon. I wasn't told much more than that or what they are doing with violators. I don't know what the deal is with the GB leak, I just know I will listen to my friend and not install it. Usually I am one who roots immediately and gets to town doing what they don't want us doing, but since this came from a really close friend, I will listen and take his advice.

I don't see why you shouldn't install the GB leak if you are just doing the non-rooted version. I mean what will verizon do? Block you're phone when the official OTA comes out? They can't do that.
I really don't see anything wrong with installing the GB leak, especially if you aren't tethering or anything to steal.

nixternal said:
This is what I found out. They are tracking use to try and detect those who are tethering. AT&T is also doing this now to try and find out who is tethering w/o the appropriate packages. What they will do when they find the un-authorized tethering people is beyond me, that wasn't told to me. I was also told not to install the GB leak. This comes from a very reliable source within Verizon. I wasn't told much more than that or what they are doing with violators. I don't know what the deal is with the GB leak, I just know I will listen to my friend and not install it. Usually I am one who roots immediately and gets to town doing what they don't want us doing, but since this came from a really close friend, I will listen and take his advice.
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So much paranoia! I always like the "friend at Verizon" story with vague warnings of punishment from Verizon should we install the forbidden leak.
You'll forgive me if I'm a bit skeptical of your story.

I got a guy that has a friend that's related to the uncle of this chick that went to the same high school as this one dude that this other guy knew that said.....wait what were we talking about?

I think a lot of people are blowing this out of proportion. Most the people at Verizon haven't the slightest clue about what the head honchos are trying to do. They pass a lot of BS to their employees to see who leaks out information. Verizon tries to keep secrets the best they can, I doubt anyone knows what Verizon is trying to do. That's going for VZW reps and such. I don't know exactly how the GB leak was leaked out, but personally I'm glad it was, it is such an improvement for our phones and something we really needed. If this happens it happens, I don't know what I'd do (leave VZW, unroot, stay rooted) until the time comes to be honest.

First off.. wow.. with the Big Brother is watching stuff. And 2nd who cares if they are?! I will root every phone I get until I drop dead. And if you want to know why they leaked the GingerBread Rom.. it's called Research & Development! It's the old, "if we can't beat them -secretly join forces with them".
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So basicly.. we are their FREE beta testers. So who's using who here? Lol
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Wireless Tether redirecting to Verizon site

I've recently upgraded to the newest ROOTED OTA GB for my DROID X and noticed that my Wireless Tether no longer works.
Instead it directs me to the Verizon Customer Service site where it shows pricing for their tether plans.
Is anyone else having this issue??

That is because you are not paying for the service. It is a paid service and they are able to track if you are trying to do it. Solution: don't tether, or pay for it

incredibly unhelpful.......they're sucking enough money out of us already for the data plans on both the phones and tablets, i see no reason for them to get more money out of me for a small amount of tethering. Especially if I've never come close to using even 3/4 of the data my plans allow.
any other answers out there, minus the self-righteous undertones?

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incredibly unhelpful.......they're sucking enough money out of us already for the data plans on both the phones and tablets, i see no reason for them to get more money out of me for a small amount of tethering. Especially if I've never come close to using even 3/4 of the data my plans allow.
any other answers out there, minus the self-righteous undertones?
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I think you found your answer buddy. You're running a non final build that isn't out yet and we all knew this was going to happen. It's like saying hey I stole a car before it was released and I want to use a pay feature for free.. Can't get much support buddy.

Aside from the "buddy" stuff, that was the kind of answer I'm looking for. Makes perfect sense and I had a suspicion it was something like that.
Why does everyone talk down to everyone in here? Honest questions deserve honest answers, no preaching necessary.
cstrifee999, i appreciate your input. thanks!

I find it so funny that a lot of the same people that are rooting, loading roms, and tethering are now all snotty about it with the little "well you're stealing buddy, its unapproved, youre not holding it right, blah blah blah I'm a dirty whore" bs. That said I have still been tethering using the old methods and haven't been redirected. Search around and see if it still works for you.G Good luck.

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I find it so funny that a lot of the same people that are rooting, loading roms, and tethering are now all snotty about it with the little "well you're stealing buddy, its unapproved, youre not holding it right, blah blah blah I'm a dirty whore" bs. That said I have still been tethering using the old methods and haven't been redirected. Search around and see if it still works for you.G Good luck.
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To be completely honest, I do not support this attitude eeither even though I am one who was just guilty of it. This is just what everything is turning into. When people ask questions that have been answered days ago (no offence in any way to OP, just trying to make a point) by the person giving us information, we tend to be annoyed be people who don't know the answer to these things because we think it is obvious and we've already answered questions on it several times. And another reason that we have so much of this is just that SO MANY threads have been made about whether or not someone could tether or why it's not working. Personally, I visit these forums several times a day because I have no life and I guess I just got sick of seeing thread after thread after thread on this subject. I apologize for my attitude

You might try the workaround that was used for the official wifi tether where you disable and re-enable 3G during a tether.

Also you can try going to the wireless tether website and download the experimental 3.0 pre10 version. That was how I got mine to work. It'll have a yellow icon.
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ur stock 3g hotspot is free w/the gb dont know if u care 2 use that theres another thread on that subject somewhere think its free until may 20th along w/the thunderbolt hotspot as a promotion
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Get the TBH 3G application patch.
It changes some redirection parameters in the NVRAM.
It works. Using it now.

tech_head said:
Get the TBH 3G application patch.
It changes some redirection parameters in the NVRAM.
It works. Using it now.
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where can we get the 3G patch at?

jestercing said:
where can we get the 3G patch at?
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http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/android-hacks/5156-tbh-droid-3g-hotspot-nvram-hack.html

gdogmcstyles said:
Aside from the "buddy" stuff, that was the kind of answer I'm looking for. Makes perfect sense and I had a suspicion it was something like that.
Why does everyone talk down to everyone in here? Honest questions deserve honest answers, no preaching necessary.
cstrifee999, i appreciate your input. thanks!
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I'm just sarcastic so my tone sometimes seems inappropriate. Not to defend the people on here the jump all over others, but some of us have been asked the same question hundreds of times multiple times a day. It's not your fault or any poster of a thread that asks a question. I myself have realized I am less patient. I guess the more you know about a subject you just assume everyone has a base knowledge and that if they don't some people treat others as "lower beings" or something. So basically going to XDA is like jumping into a shark tank... Sometimes you come out missing an arm.. lol

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I'm just sarcastic so my tone sometimes seems inappropriate. Not to defend the people on here the jump all over others, but some of us have been asked the same question hundreds of times multiple times a day. It's not your fault or any poster of a thread that asks a question. I myself have realized I am less patient. I guess the more you know about a subject you just assume everyone has a base knowledge and that if they don't some people treat others as "lower beings" or something. So basically going to XDA is like jumping into a shark tank... Sometimes you come out missing an arm.. lol
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Very well put and I agree with your feelings completely. It gets very tiring to see so many threads on the same topic

I post very infrequently, but read at least once a day. And yes you do find a threads about the same questions in here. But for me it helps, it allows me to find what I am looking for easier. The more posts the more hits you get back.
Just another point of view.

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Is this confirmed to work on the 588 release of gingerbread? I had it working on my 2.2.1, but I haven't tried it on the new release.

xious1 said:
Is this confirmed to work on the 588 release of gingerbread? I had it working on my 2.2.1, but I haven't tried it on the new release.
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It never worked for me on 573 or 588. However, there are others that claim success with it. It seems as though it is hit or miss.
As a matter of fact, the first time I flashed 573, wireless tether worked. When I flashed the patch, it stopped working.
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It works intermittently
I'm running the TBH NVRAM hack and it works for me. Make sure you have the 3.0-pre12 wifi tether app. I have noticed that occasionally i lose tether so toggling airplane mode seems to fix it. Good luck.

The stance that AT&T and Verizon(aka Baby Bell's) are taking with tethering is the same crud cable companies tried to pull by saying you cant have a router with multiple computers attached w/o paying them for it. It's more of the same old telcos trying to return to their glory years driven by monopoly business plans. We don't have to pay them to tether. It's a hardware feature and they don't own the hardware. They charge for data plans. We pay for the the data plans. We can use the data plan however the heck we want. They will lose this battle just like they did with wireline service.

Wifi tether on unlimited data?

I want to be able to take advantage of my unlimited data and use the wifi hot-spot feature without paying for it any ideas on how to do this. not my first time rooting an android device but first time trying to break past wifi tether feature
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There are people said to have gotten it working in diff environments if you read around, and this doesn't really belong in the dev section,
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Sugnim91 said:
I want to be able to take advantage of my unlimited data and use the wifi hot-spot feature without paying for it any ideas on how to do this. not my first time rooting an android device but first time trying to break past wifi tether feature
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There is a Q&A section for a reason buddy, This is only for Development.

You can call Sprint and add Hotspot to your account...instead of violating the ToS and being one of the people who help put an end to unlimited data. If $20 more / month is the difference in bills being paid or not, then maybe cell phones aren't your cup'o'tea.

Respectfully, I disagree. This is the development section and this mod SHOULD be under development. Why it isnt, I still dont understand. It is a mod people want regardless of how anyone feels about breaking ToS, which by the way, is a rediculous argument.
I dont see this being under the dev section as litter. It should be developed, and have ongoing work if needed, just like any other Rom or software for the sprint G2.

bigpappa said:
Respectfully, I disagree. This is the development section and this mod SHOULD be under development. Why it isnt, I still dont understand. It is a mod people want regardless of how anyone feels about breaking ToS, which by the way, is a rediculous argument.
I dont see this being under the dev section as litter. It should be developed, and have ongoing work if needed, just like any other Rom or software for the sprint G2.
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I agree to the degree that there should be a subforum for requests, I think it's more a reason of organization then just ToS. But I understand where you are coming from. If it were up to me, I'd also create a thread about unlocking the phone's GSM capabilities, which imo, is also a pretty important part of dev.

Just get foxfi it works on every phone. Google has the pro key, I'm sure, for you people that don't want to shell out the 5 bucks.
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I have it, and that info is incorrect. Foxfi does not work on many phones right now. LG G2 included.

bigpappa said:
Respectfully, I disagree. This is the development section and this mod SHOULD be under development. Why it isnt, I still dont understand. It is a mod people want regardless of how anyone feels about breaking ToS, which by the way, is a rediculous argument.
I dont see this being under the dev section as litter. It should be developed, and have ongoing work if needed, just like any other Rom or software for the sprint G2.
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It's not a "rediculous" argument..nor is it a ridiculous argument either. You talking about circumventing -- purposely, in order to gain something for free that is a paid service. This should be discussed right along with IMEI switching and ESN switching...because it falls into that category. If you're gonna steal, do it right...steal the phone, circumvent the bad/blacklisted ESN and go all-out to get some free data.
I've had this in every ROM I put on my GS3 and even my old Optimus S...and never used it because I didn't pay for it. Was it unlocked? I guess so, it was in the menu...but it wasn't something I wanted to break my morals in order to use.
People want this then they wonder why carriers want to increase prices and charge more / add data caps. This is the exact reason.

This is a development thread not ? Thread.
I will ask to close this thread
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The reason data rates go up is called profit, not users circumventing something they DO pay for, unlimited data, on a phone I own and control the software on. Keep drinking the koolaid believing that data os expensive. I worked in the hosting business and web search industry of well over 15 years. I can go buy backbone bandwith right now for $0.003 a GB. Know your facts please. Research actual bandwidth prices and you'll realize why mobile providers make so much money on data. Margins tell it all.
Debate over. This should be about development and facts, not opinions.
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It's not a "rediculous" argument..nor is it a ridiculous argument either. You talking about circumventing -- purposely, in order to gain something for free that is a paid service. This should be discussed right along with IMEI switching and ESN switching...because it falls into that category. If you're gonna steal, do it right...steal the phone, circumvent the bad/blacklisted ESN and go all-out to get some free data.
I've had this in every ROM I put on my GS3 and even my old Optimus S...and never used it because I didn't pay for it. Was it unlocked? I guess so, it was in the menu...but it wasn't something I wanted to break my morals in order to use.
People want this then they wonder why carriers want to increase prices and charge more / add data caps. This is the exact reason.
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isn't circumventing part of development? why else would we root our phones its not to break the securities they put in place?
The last time I read the TOS tethering was allowed in limited use.
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This is the Development section. Request belong in General.

Benny that was kind of my point. There should be a thread for this in development. Putting things in general hasnt helped sprint development at all. Things are being lost in there with every other carriers stuff.
If roms are in development even when they arent complete are allowed here then why other under things like tether mods allowed here? Should there be a thread for requests under sprint? Maybe so. However other handsets forums on xda have devoted sections to specific carrier version. Why doesnt the G2?
Personally I cant find much under general, or questions, that helps me with the ls980.

If anyone can look into this I put it into development as to find a permanent solution so far I have tried foxfi and a few others and so far no dice the one I have can't turn on the access point...
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jonathanm1978 said:
It's not a "rediculous" argument..nor is it a ridiculous argument either. You talking about circumventing -- purposely, in order to gain something for free that is a paid service. This should be discussed right along with IMEI switching and ESN switching...because it falls into that category. If you're gonna steal, do it right...steal the phone, circumvent the bad/blacklisted ESN and go all-out to get some free data.
I've had this in every ROM I put on my GS3 and even my old Optimus S...and never used it because I didn't pay for it. Was it unlocked? I guess so, it was in the menu...but it wasn't something I wanted to break my morals in order to use.
People want this then they wonder why carriers want to increase prices and charge more / add data caps. This is the exact reason.
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So, what's your stance on Verizon's tethering policy? Before, you had to pay for it no matter what plan you had. Now, if you're grandfathered in to unlimited data, the took the option away. If you're on their tiered plan, it's now free. They've taken away the option for people who could use it effectively, and given it to people who will make them money if they try to use it in any serious sense.
Now, looking at it from another perspective, the ability has been built into my phones in the past so I don't have to use their software. In those cases, Verizon is not allowing me to use my phone as it was intended. While not a violation of the LTE purchasing agreements because they still provide 3G, it is a loophole that they are taking advantage of. As long as they provide service other than the LTE bands purchased, they can prohibit us from using our own tethering apps indefinitely without being sanctioned. How is that fair? In essence, they are robbing me of the ability to use my hard/software as it was designed. Unlike them, I don't have expensive lawyers or lobbyists in Congress' pockets.

Deodexed version V8 to be uploaded tomorrow by our lovely devs. This next weekend, if work doesn't have me too long, I'll take a look in the files and see what I can do.
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