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Eventhough I'm not currently in a 4G market, the EVO has me excited however I'd like to get the best deal possible particularly as I'd be using it perhaps 80+% on Wi-Fi off their network.
1) Full retail price: $450 or $600 as I'm not sure I want to sign a 2 yr contract? If I do sign a 2yr contract is the ETF a monthly prorated $200 & would that have any effect on my credit rating-report?
2) Discounts: I've heard suggestions of setting up a simple $10 savings account at a Credit Union to get a 10% Sprint discount, any comments/other discount ideas to minimize that monthly fee?
3) Rooting: Just to clarify does rooting void the warranty & if so do you have any qualms doing it day1?
-Thanks & would be cool to develop for Android/EVO..
Not sure if this info is right but I got it from sprint rep. I asked if I bought the phone straight out what deal would I get. She said its the same plan either way and I would have to have a 2 yr contract even if i didn't buy the phone from them. So no discount and still have to have 2 yr contract. Can anyone confirm this info?
Plans: In order to have an Evo you MUST have an Everything Data Plan. You MUST pay $10 dollars additional to add Premium Data to your plan. You MAY pay $29.99 for the Wi-Fi Hotspot feature.
Discounts: Sprint offers discounts to pretty much every company out there. Heck, some companies only require you know someone who works there to get the discount!
If you are out of contract, you can often call Customer Service and get an additional discount just for resigning, and then still upgrade (and thus resign) a few days later. But it has to be done in that order!
However, these discounts do NOT apply to the $10 Premium Data, $29.99 Wi-Fi Hotspot, or $7 TEP. Only to the actual plan!
Contract: If you are a NEW customer, you MUST agree to a 2 year contract, even if you don't take the discount. So take the discount.
If you are an existing customer and want the discounted price ($199 after $100 MIR) you MUST sign a 2 year contract AND be eligible for upgrade.
If you are an existing customer and got an Evo from a friend or I/O Attendee, you do NOT have to sign a contract. You can change the plan, add the services, add TEP, and add the Hotspot without changing your contract. You'll even be eligible to upgrade on your regular date!
Where did you get the $600 price? I thought the phone was $450 without a discount and $199 with a rebate/discount for an upgrade/new contract.
The reason I ask is I am only 8 months into my contract, so am I going to have to pay $450 or $600?
Also, a friend said he had a Bowing Credit Union account, got him a 20% discount.
$450 is the official price from a Sprint corporate store, $600 is the BestBuy full retail price.
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$450 is the official price from a Sprint corporate store, $600 is the BestBuy full retail price.
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Wow, I didn't know that. Why on earth would anyone get it from BestBuy?
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Plans: In order to have an Evo you MUST have an Everything Data Plan. You MUST pay $10 dollars additional to add Premium Data to your plan. You MAY pay $29.99 for the Wi-Fi Hotspot feature.
Discounts: Sprint offers discounts to pretty much every company out there. Heck, some companies only require you know someone who works there to get the discount!
If you are out of contract, you can often call Customer Service and get an additional discount just for resigning, and then still upgrade (and thus resign) a few days later. But it has to be done in that order!
However, these discounts do NOT apply to the $10 Premium Data, $29.99 Wi-Fi Hotspot, or $7 TEP. Only to the actual plan!
Contract: If you are a NEW customer, you MUST agree to a 2 year contract, even if you don't take the discount. So take the discount.
If you are an existing customer and want the discounted price ($199 after $100 MIR) you MUST sign a 2 year contract AND be eligible for upgrade.
If you are an existing customer and got an Evo from a friend or I/O Attendee, you do NOT have to sign a contract. You can change the plan, add the services, add TEP, and add the Hotspot without changing your contract. You'll even be eligible to upgrade on your regular date!
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Ok so since I'm new to Sprint it sounds like I would have to sign a 2 yr contract for access to their network & should take their discounted price-Is it a monthly prorated $200 ETF (& would that have any effect on my credit rating-report)?
I was going to link to the 10% Credit Union Sprint Discount but can't as a new user here yet, any other specific significant accessible discounts to consider (wow Sirchuk 20% Bowing Credit Union account, I'll have to look into that-thanks)?
Is the radio shack pre-order by 5/31 the best deal out there? $7 TEP worth it? Are you gonna root it? -Appreciate the replies
If you pay the $200 ETF then it won't go against your credit, but if you don't pay it (just like any other bill) they could take you to collections and then it will hurt your credit. Keep in mind in order to get the rebate you will still need to keep the phone on sprint for X period of time or they'll deny the rebate.
Also, I don't believe the amount is prorated monthly at all. You are agreeing to 2 years and thus get a discount on the phone.
Well, I'm new to xda and as such can't post links.. So google search on,
mcguireslaw
If you will be new to Sprint, go here, for probably the best available discount, if you don't work for a medium or big comapny. Read the link on the right of page (Special Sprint Offer), and click through it.
If you are currently on Sprint (or not), and work for a mid to large company, google seach on,
evpdiscount
and plug your company name in. These are without a doubt the best available discounts, and can simply be added to existing service.
A few examples,
evpdiscount.com/ibm
evpdiscount.com/ups
evpdiscount.com/cisco
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Ok so since I'm new to Sprint it sounds like I would have to sign a 2 yr contract for access to their network & should take their discounted price
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Agreed. Probably why they do it that way!
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Is it a monthly prorated $200 ETF (& would that have any effect on my credit rating-report)?
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The ETF is $200 until month 5, then goes down by $10 every month until only $50 remains. And no, if you pay the ETF and final bill (make sure you pay it ALL!) by the bill due date (like any bill) it doesn't affect your credit.
SMARTPHONEPC said:
I was going to link to the 10% Credit Union Sprint Discount but can't as a new user here yet, any other specific significant accessible discounts to consider (wow Sirchuk 20% Bowing Credit Union account, I'll have to look into that-thanks)?
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It's called an NVP discount, and there are (literally) hundreds. They range from 5% to 25% based on where you work. So go into a store and get it setup!
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Is the radio shack pre-order by 5/31 the best deal out there?
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Define "deal". Sam's Club has the cheapest price ($160) last I checked, Radio Shack and Bestbuy both will do it out the door with no MIR and have cheaper accessories. But those same accessories void your mfg. warranty the second you plug them into your phone. Plus you're going to have to call customer service to get any discounts added to your plan.
Corporate stores will require the MIR (Extra hundred bucks up front), but will setup your discount johnny on the spot (should you qualify and I'll bet dollars to dimes you do!) and walk you through the entire setup up the phone (They call it "Ready Now")
SMARTPHONEPC said:
$7 TEP worth it?
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Absolutely. If something in the phone fails or needs to be cleaned take it to a local Sprint Service center. They either repair or replace at no charge, and replacements are usually in your hands within 3-5 days (unlimited). If you bust the screen out, get water in it, loose it or get it stolen call Asurion and for $100 they send you another (up to 3 a year).
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Are you gonna root it?
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Whatever it takes to make my AVI's play from my phone onto my TV. This phone is cutting my need for a PC in HALF!!
go through EPRP
sprint.com/sero
[email protected]
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tatnai said:
go through EPRP
sprint.com/sero
[email protected]
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So through that link the Everything Plus™ Data - 500 Anytime Minutes is $59.99+the$10 EVO charge, so we're talking ~$70+taxes/mo as the best deal?
I would have to set that up through Sprint & why doesn't Sprint just match reseller deals while annoying new customers with a mail-in rebate?
-Thanks
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go through EPRP
sprint.com/sero
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is there anyway to change my current plan to those prices with this information, or new lines only?
tatnai said:
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I thought you couldn't use a SERO plan with the EVO? (or any recent smarphone short of the TP2) Or is EPRP different from SERO and I'm just being thrown off by the fact that it says /sero on the URL in your post?
Edit: Nevermind, I figured it out... For anyone not familiar, SERO is an old/outdated set of discount plans Sprint used to offer (based on employee referral), EPRP is the current/modern iteration of that and apparently you can use the EVO on such a plan (and you can upgrade a SERO plan to EPRP too), but it's possible you may not be able to actually buy the EVO w/an EPRP plan until July (judging by what Sprint employees have stated elsewhere), due to the fact that you need to get the phone directly thru Sprint with the plan in order to be able to get on the EPRP and they're locking out the EVO from the EPRPs 'till then (like they did w/the Pre), so that's a bit of a letdown.
Am I right? Kind of a downer, I would've loved to save an extra $10 a month but I don't think I can wait 'till July! Thanks for the info anyway.
Edit: Also, getting on the EPRP and knocking $10 off the bill for a single line plan would disqualify you for Sprint Premier status anyway (since your base bill has to be $69.99+/month), so if anyone wants to be able to upgrade/renew every year you're better off w/the regular plans, as long as you don't mind the higher bill (worth it imo). That is unless you're getting an EPRP family plan of $99 or more, then you still qualify, such as the $110 EPRP 1600 min plan... Which is a big discount over the standard $130 for 1500.
I've got a question, say I sign a contract for a single line $69.99 plan this month, could I later upgrade that to an EPRP family/share plan?
Yeah what he said..just trying to plan this out so I have this phone next weekend or maybe I should calm down & wait until...mid June ?
I'm currently on AT&T and I'm not even waiting 'till the 7th (Monday after the EVO launches), even tho supposedly they've got some big (non-Apple) announcements then. Just sick and tired of waiting for them to release a solid Android phone, the EVO is calling my name! 'Specially after I discovered I can get a 15% discount on my monthly bill thru StudentRate and still qualify for Premier status. That basically makes EPRP irrelevant for me since it's the same amount of discount but w/no caveats; and StudentRate's also got a sweet offer for those ordering the EVO online on the 4th, after 2 different credits you basically end up paying $125 for it w/no activation fees and free overnight shipping, tough to beat. I don't mind waiting 'till Monday if it means saving $110!
Impulses said:
I thought you couldn't use a SERO plan with the EVO? (or any recent smarphone short of the TP2) Or is EPRP different from SERO and I'm just being thrown off by the fact that it says /sero on the URL in your post?
Edit: Nevermind, I figured it out... For anyone not familiar, SERO is an old/outdated set of discount plans Sprint used to offer (based on employee referral), EPRP is the current/modern iteration of that and apparently you can use the EVO on such a plan (and you can upgrade a SERO plan to EPRP too), but it's possible you may not be able to actually buy the EVO w/an EPRP plan until July (judging by what Sprint employees have stated elsewhere), due to the fact that you need to get the phone directly thru Sprint with the plan in order to be able to get on the EPRP and they're locking out the EVO from the EPRPs 'till then (like they did w/the Pre), so that's a bit of a letdown.
Am I right? Kind of a downer, I would've loved to save an extra $10 a month but I don't think I can wait 'till July! Thanks for the info anyway.
Edit: Also, getting on the EPRP and knocking $10 off the bill for a single line plan would disqualify you for Sprint Premier status anyway (since your base bill has to be $69.99+/month), so if anyone wants to be able to upgrade/renew every year you're better off w/the regular plans, as long as you don't mind the higher bill (worth it imo). That is unless you're getting an EPRP family plan of $99 or more, then you still qualify, such as the $110 EPRP 1600 min plan... Which is a big discount over the standard $130 for 1500.
I've got a question, say I sign a contract for a single line $69.99 plan this month, could I later upgrade that to an EPRP family/share plan?
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1. not sure about sprint premier with the 59.99 plan. previously, SERO plans got special treatment even though they didn't qualify for it by their cost structure (phone upgrade discounts, etc), it might be the same with EPRP, you'd have to call and ask
2. very difficult to more from a regular plan into an EPRP. If you want it, sign up with it
3. sprint distinguishes employees from regular users on a referral plan. my rep says I can get it friday. i'll post back friday.
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Define "deal". Sam's Club has the cheapest price ($160) last I checked, Radio Shack and Bestbuy both will do it out the door with no MIR and have cheaper accessories. But those same accessories void your mfg. warranty the second you plug them into your phone. Plus you're going to have to call customer service to get any discounts added to your plan.
Corporate stores will require the MIR (Extra hundred bucks up front), but will setup your discount johnny on the spot (should you qualify and I'll bet dollars to dimes you do!) and walk you through the entire setup up the phone (They call it "Ready Now")
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The only way using a charger voids your warranty is if you tell them you used a non-OEM charger when making your claim And why would you do that? Not to mention that Radioshack, at least, can set up discounts right in the store. Radioshack will also walk you through using the device (if you've never owned a smartphone before and need it). We call it "customer service."
Try this link for 25% off all plans
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=699240
According to a lot of different posts on sprintusers.com, EPRP plans under the cost limit for Premier don't qualify for it, period. Corporate discounts and other stuff don't preclude you from Premier status but EPRP does (it's not treated as a discount but a separate set of plans, which it is pretty much since some of the minute allotments vary).
Anyway, I'm going ahead w/the 15% StudentRate discount plans, I can get the EVO thru them for $125 anyway... Seems a little more honest than getting in on the 25% Time Warner deal heh (since I AM a student). I'm just wondering if you can upgrade your plan at any time (say, to a Share Plan) when using these discounts.
http://consumerist.com/2010/08/sprint-hikes-prices-by-dumping-discounts.html
If Sprint changes the terms of service on your existing contract, you have the right to end it with no ETF and keep your phone.
Not saying I want to get out of my contract, but last time Sprint changed their TOS, tons of ppl haggled their way into getting $20 off per month for 24 months in order to NOT break their contract.
You have 30 days from when the charge first appears on your bill. So if your BILLING date is Aug 23, you have until Sept. 22 to assert your right to cancel.
Update:
From Sprint's contract, you can only cancel the affected lines
Our Right To Change The Agreement & Your Related Rights
We may change any part of the Agreement at any time, including, but not limited to, rates, charges, how we calculate charges, or your terms of Service. We will provide you notice of material changes, and may provide you notice of non-material changes, in a manner consistent with this Agreement (see "Providing Notice To Each Other Under The Agreement" section). If a change we make to the Agreement is material and has a material adverse effect on Services under your Term Commitment, you may terminate each line of Service materially affected without incurring an Early Termination Fee only if you: (a) call us within 30 days after the effective date of the change; and (b) specifically advise us that you wish to cancel Services because of a material change to the Agreement that we have made. If you do not cancel Service within 30 days of the change, an Early Termination Fee will apply if you terminate Services before the end of any applicable Term Commitment.
Update 2: Several people have reported getting credited back what is being "un-discounted" from their bill.
itmustbejj said:
http://consumerist.com/2010/08/sprint-hikes-prices-by-dumping-discounts.html
If Sprint changes the terms of service on your existing contract, you have the right to end it with no ETF and keep your phone.
Not saying I want to get out of my contract, but last time Sprint changed their TOS, tons of ppl haggled their way into getting $20 off per month for 24 months in order to NOT break their contract.
And before you freak out, this really isn't that big of a deal IIRC, your base discount goes on your main plan, so I think it's saying the +20 per lines 3-5 will no longer be eligible for the discount.
But still, I wouldn't mind getting in on some of that 20/24 action....
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i have 4 phones and with my discount ( 27% ) i pay 180ish a month for unlimited everything not sure ill be happy if my discount drops off the other 2 lines might have to raise a stink about this
Sporkman said:
i have 4 phones and with my discount ( 27% ) i pay 180ish a month for unlimited everything not sure ill be happy if my discount drops off the other 2 lines might have to raise a stink about this
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Ahhh so you are a citi group "employee"
itmustbejj said:
http://consumerist.com/2010/08/sprint-hikes-prices-by-dumping-discounts.html
If Sprint changes the terms of service on your existing contract, you have the right to end it with no ETF and keep your phone.
Not saying I want to get out of my contract, but last time Sprint changed their TOS, tons of ppl haggled their way into getting $20 off per month for 24 months in order to NOT break their contract.
And before you freak out, this really isn't that big of a deal IIRC, your base discount goes on your main plan, so I think it's saying the +20 per lines 3-5 will no longer be eligible for the discount.
But still, I wouldn't mind getting in on some of that 20/24 action....
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Do I have to terminate my plan if I want to get out of my contract? Or can I get out of my contract and go month to month?
How much time has to pass before you can sign up with them again?
you have to wait atleast 3 to 6 months.. should i stay or should i go now? i can get the same phone on clear in another month, can just go to boost for a month or two until its out... but i did pay $500 for this thing...
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Ahhh so you are a citi group "employee"
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no im not, mines legit lol i have this discount for about 10 years
That sucks. I signed up with 4 lines in June 2010 with 25% discount. My bill is now $170, so with this new policy, it'll be $180. That's more than what I was paying for AT&T with 4 lines. Might have to talk to Sprint and figure out if something can be done as one of the main reasons for moving to Sprint was due to it's price and now it's really not much of a difference.
If they change the TOS, can I cancel the contract and just pay them monthly as if my contract expired?
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If they change the TOS, can I cancel the contract and just pay them monthly as if my contract expired?
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No. You are canceling the contract and your service goes with it.
if this affects you (2 or more lines) you can always setup a new account with another person on your account as the primary account holder, or just use boost after cancelling and sign up with clear after they sign up.
Before everyone gets their panties in a bunch, this change is only going to affect people with an old "add a line" plans. I found another post about this subject in another forum, and sprint isn't changing anything for the newer "unlimited" plans. Chances are, if you're using a smart phone, you aren't using the old plans where you had options to add data, add text, add internet, etc. And really, I would think that if you have an old plan where you only get limited minutes and you're buying a text plan, buying data, buying picture mail, and anything else .. you're probably paying too much and you should have changed your plan a long time ago.
Or so I hope what I found is correct, we have a family plan with 5 lines. Lol
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That sucks. I signed up with 4 lines in June 2010 with 25% discount. My bill is now $170, so with this new policy, it'll be $180. That's more than what I was paying for AT&T with 4 lines. Might have to talk to Sprint and figure out if something can be done as one of the main reasons for moving to Sprint was due to it's price and now it's really not much of a difference.
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We just signed up 3 lines with the 1500 min. /mo any mobile any time plan - all 3 evos. I have a 23% student discount and that's the reason I went with sprint. It works out to $52 bucks a month x3 phones, but if that's ending, then will cancel sprint and just go with the iphone 4 on att, keep the evos and sell them.
I'm actually kind of pissed about this, but if I can have a iphone 4 for the same price sprint will go up to, then I might as well have that.
FYI - depsite what the post on Consumerist says, I've been hearing elsewhere that Sprint does not consider this a "materially adverse change" and won't waive your ETF because of it. I don't care either way personally because it's still cheaper than any comprable family plan on Verizon or AT&T.
I'm chatting with a rep right now about this new ToS change.
The discount will only apply to the first 2 lines of any family plan after the said date!
Call this number if you want to find out for sure if you can get out ETF free and keep your phones: 1888-211-4727
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We just signed up 3 lines with the 1500 min. /mo any mobile any time plan - all 3 evos. I have a 23% student discount and that's the reason I went with sprint. It works out to $52 bucks a month x3 phones, but if that's ending, then will cancel sprint and just go with the iphone 4 on att, keep the evos and sell them.
I'm actually kind of pissed about this, but if I can have a iphone 4 for the same price sprint will go up to, then I might as well have that.
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I'm pissed as well. I paid like $350 in ETFs and got rid of my ATT phones because with the discounts, I knew I would be paying less with Sprint. I also paid about $700 for the 4 Sprint phones (2 Evo and 2 blackberry).
I chatted with a Sprint rep and he said they will no longer offer discounts to lines 3-5 on services less than $29.99.
I'd switch back to ATT if I can get out without paying the ETF with Sprint.
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I'm pissed as well. I paid like $350 in ETFs and got rid of my ATT phones because with the discounts, I knew I would be paying less with Sprint. I also paid about $700 for the 4 Sprint phones (2 Evo and 2 blackberry).
I chatted with a Sprint rep and he said they will no longer offer discounts to lines 3-5 on services less than $29.99.
I'd switch back to ATT if I can get out without paying the ETF with Sprint.
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So does that mean my $29.99 Evo family line is still discounted?
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Before everyone gets their panties in a bunch, this change is only going to affect people with an old "add a line" plans. I found another post about this subject in another forum, and sprint isn't changing anything for the newer "unlimited" plans. Chances are, if you're using a smart phone, you aren't using the old plans where you had options to add data, add text, add internet, etc. And really, I would think that if you have an old plan where you only get limited minutes and you're buying a text plan, buying data, buying picture mail, and anything else .. you're probably paying too much and you should have changed your plan a long time ago.
Or so I hope what I found is correct, we have a family plan with 5 lines. Lol
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i hope you are right my phone plan rocks ! and would hate to loose it
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That sucks. I signed up with 4 lines in June 2010 with 25% discount. My bill is now $170, so with this new policy, it'll be $180. That's more than what I was paying for AT&T with 4 lines. Might have to talk to Sprint and figure out if something can be done as one of the main reasons for moving to Sprint was due to it's price and now it's really not much of a difference.
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So does that mean my $29.99 Evo family line is still discounted?
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I chatted with a rep an hour ago and got this:
The discount will only apply to the first 2 lines of any family plan after the said date!
Call this number if you want to find out for sure if you can get out ETF free and keep your phones: 1888-211-4727
Orrrr, we could always just call this number instead and actually get some where.
http://consumerist.com/2007/05/spri...eader-executive-customer-service-hotline.html
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FYI - depsite what the post on Consumerist says, I've been hearing elsewhere that Sprint does not consider this a "materially adverse change" and won't waive your ETF because of it. I don't care either way personally because it's still cheaper than any comprable family plan on Verizon or AT&T.
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"materially adverse" means "affecting your money". All the carriers do this, they posture and try to downplay the change to the TOS for 30 days after it goes into effect because by that time it's too late to get out of your contract.
The fact remains, you signed a contract with determined terms. If they change that contract before it expires YOU ARE NO LONGER BOUND TO IT. Don't let them BS you, know they are bound to the contract just as much as you are. Stand up for yourself if you are unhappy about this.
Did I miss where we could get out of the contract because they bumped up their surcharges this month? And, I lost $4.60 23% student discount on the 3rd line this month, too. ;(
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Sprint Surcharges are rates we choose to collect from you to help defray costs imposed on us. Surcharges are not taxes on you or amounts we are required to collect from you by law. Surcharges other charges incurred to recover costs associated with governmental programs, and certain taxes imposed upon Sprint. The amounts, and the components used to calculate Surcharge amounts, are subject to change.
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Federal-Univ Serv Assess Non-LD $2.07
Administrative Charge $2.97
Regulatory Charge $1.20
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Also, consumerist still says you can get out of your contract because of the discount until the 27th: http://consumerist.com/2010/09/over-2-lines-cancel-sprint-without-fee.html
I'm thinking about doing this on our 3rd line - just in case I want to jump ship and go to the iphone. Haha.
So you want to break your contract over an extra $1.47?
If you're going to be a penny pincher about a cellphone service you might as well get a tracfone.
"You gotta pay to play".
lovethyEVO said:
So you want to break your contract over an extra $1.47?
If you're going to be a penny pincher about a cellphone service you might as well get a tracfone.
"You gotta pay to play".
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No, I don't want to leave now, but I want them to fulfill my contract so I can cancel in the future, if I so please, without an etf.
Still, that's a $1.47 + $4.60 (lost discount), which = $6.07 a mo, or $72.84 a year, which is half of a monthly bill!
Losing your % discount on lines 3-5 is not a reason to have your ETF waived. The only way they will waive your ETF is if you were offered a MRC discount for 1 or 2 years and it was removed.
As far as I know, surcharges did not go up - you might want to check into that.
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Losing your % discount on lines 3-5 is not a reason to have your ETF waived. The only way they will waive your ETF is if you were offered a MRC discount for 1 or 2 years and it was removed.
As far as I know, surcharges did not go up - you might want to check into that.
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Copied straight from the AUG and SEPT online bills.
Hrshycro said:
No, I don't want to leave now, but I want them to fulfill my contract so I can cancel in the future, if I so please, without an etf.
Still, that's a $1.47 + $4.60 (lost discount), which = $6.07 a mo, or $72.84 a yeah, which is half of a monthly bill!
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Surcharges suck any way you put it. Some months they will be low and others they may skyrocket. Even with my military discount and staying within my allotted limits (data, text, calls, etc) my monthly bill will never be the same because the surcharges are never the same. NOW, if the surcharge were to jump up to $15+ a month out of nowhere I would get pissed and get down to the bottom of it. If it really bothers you that much call a represantative and have them try to explain it to you more in detail as to what exactly is going on with your bill.
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Losing your % discount on lines 3-5 is not a reason to have your ETF waived. The only way they will waive your ETF is if you were offered a MRC discount for 1 or 2 years and it was removed.
As far as I know, surcharges did not go up - you might want to check into that.
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ETF can also be waived in the event a service member gets deployed with orders unless they changed it in the past year or so.
lovethyEVO said:
ETF can also be waived in the event a service member gets deployed with orders unless they changed it in the past year or so.
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There are plenty of way's to have ETF's waived, im just speaking in particular to his case.
stop crying over pocket change
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Surcharges suck any way you put it. Some months they will be low and others they may skyrocket. Even with my military discount and staying within my allotted limits (data, text, calls, etc) my monthly bill will never be the same because the surcharges are never the same. NOW, if the surcharge were to jump up to $15+ a month out of nowhere I would get pissed and get down to the bottom of it. If it really bothers you that much call a represantative and have them try to explain it to you more in detail as to what exactly is going on with your bill.
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Hmm, well the first 3 months were the exact same to the cent.
lovethyEVO said:
ETF can also be waived in the event a service member gets deployed with orders unless they changed it in the past year or so.
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I think they just freeze that line for free now.
hotdog32836 said:
stop crying over pocket change
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Would you like to paypal me $72.84 a year of your pocket change? Thanks.
hotdog32836 said:
stop crying over pocket change
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Dimes make dollars. Who are you to tell somebody else how to manage their money? Maybe it's a small amount to you. What if it was a dollar more? Still okay? Two dollars? Five? Ten? What's the exact dollar amount where it becomes okay to question the reason for the increase?
Hrshycro said:
Did I miss where we could get out of the contract because they bumped up their surcharges this month? And, I lost $4.60 23% student discount on the 3rd line this month, too. ;(
Sprint Surcharges
Hide Details And Explanation of Charges
Sprint Surcharges are rates we choose to collect from you to help defray costs imposed on us. Surcharges are not taxes on you or amounts we are required to collect from you by law. Surcharges other charges incurred to recover costs associated with governmental programs, and certain taxes imposed upon Sprint. The amounts, and the components used to calculate Surcharge amounts, are subject to change.
Last Month:
Federal-Univ Serv Assess Non-LD $2.07
Administrative Charge $2.97
Regulatory Charge $1.20
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$6.24
This Month:
Federal-Univ Serv Assess Non-LD $2.15
Administrative Charge $3.96
Regulatory Charge $1.60
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$7.71
Also, consumerist still says you can get out of your contract because of the discount until the 27th: http://consumerist.com/2010/09/over-2-lines-cancel-sprint-without-fee.html
I'm thinking about doing this on our 3rd line - just in case I want to jump ship and go to the iphone. Haha.
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Ummm.....
$7.71 - $6.24 = $1.47
$1.47/$6.24 = 0.235
You lost you 23% discount and because your fees are based on a percentage of the bill, they went up 23%.
Minjin said:
Ummm.....
$7.71 - $6.24 = $1.47
$1.47/$6.24 = 0.235
You lost you 23% discount and because your fees are based on a percentage of the bill, they went up 23%.
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Technically, that's a 23.5% increase, and that's after rounding the wrong way.
Minjin said:
Ummm.....
$7.71 - $6.24 = $1.47
$1.47/$6.24 = 0.235
You lost you 23% discount and because your fees are based on a percentage of the bill, they went up 23%.
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Hmm, good point. I was just thinking about that while watching a youtube video. That's really strange that the discount would have an effect on the monthly admin fees, yet not the $10 whatever fee.
Hrshycro said:
Hmm, good point. I was just thinking about that while watching a youtube video. That's really strange that the discount would have an effect on the monthly admin fees, yet not the $10 whatever fee.
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That to me is the only real **** move here. Not having that 10 bucks be part of what a discount is applied to. Just a **** move, pure and simple.
wuclan48 said:
That to me is the only real **** move here. Not having that 10 bucks be part of what a discount is applied to. Just a **** move, pure and simple.
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Well I think the $10 fee is unjustifiable in the first place. Since it's not for 4G data, and unlimited data is already included with Sprint's plans, it's basically saying hey, you have to have unlimited plus 1 if you want a 4G phone (because those are the only non-**** phones we've ever had)
Seeing that the discount was included on the admin fees was a real shocker to me.
It's not the surcharge...
They didn't change the surcharge, they eliminated the discount on additional lines effective Sep. 1st. However, since this is a material change of contract (costs you $), you CAN get out of contract. At least for the lines affected anyway. You only have so long to call in and object to the change of service or you automatically accept. Everybody was notified of this change i think 2 billing cycles ago. I called in, advised that a material change of service was not acceptable and was transferred to level 2 who told me he could credit me for 1 month (plan price not including additional lines - $130). When pressed, also stated I could get out of contract. He didn't say just get out of contract for the additional lines, but I'm assuming thats the case. I now have until October 12th to make a decision. That being said, dropping my discount of 23% on 2 additional lines costs me about $9.20/mo. Can I get comparable features (UNLIMITED data, unlimited to any cell, navagation, etc.) for all 4 lines for the same or less $? Probably not. But the credit of $130 is just $26 shy of the discount I would have recieved total for the next 17 months of my contract.
SilverZero said:
Technically, that's a 23.5% increase, and that's after rounding the wrong way.
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Yeah, there must be some other rounding going on with the individual fees that caused the difference.
Note that the individual fees aren't percentage based but as a whole they are. I wonder how exactly they are determined.
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They didn't change the surcharge, they eliminated the discount on additional lines effective Sep. 1st. However, since this is a material change of contract (costs you $), you CAN get out of contract. At least for the lines affected anyway. You only have so long to call in and object to the change of service or you automatically accept. Everybody was notified of this change i think 2 billing cycles ago. I called in, advised that a material change of service was not acceptable and was transferred to level 2 who told me he could credit me for 1 month (plan price not including additional lines - $130). When pressed, also stated I could get out of contract. He didn't say just get out of contract for the additional lines, but I'm assuming thats the case. I now have until October 12th to make a decision. That being said, dropping my discount of 23% on 2 additional lines costs me about $9.20/mo. Can I get comparable features (UNLIMITED data, unlimited to any cell, navagation, etc.) for all 4 lines for the same or less $? Probably not. But the credit of $130 is just $26 shy of the discount I would have recieved total for the next 17 months of my contract.
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Your % discount is not being counted as a reason to waive ETF as you never signed a contract to receive your NVP discount (funny huh?).
I just spoke with someone in the Sprint Escalation management team because I am having an issue with my 10 year status. I have been with Sprint since 2000 BUT it only shows since 2005. They changed systems in 2005 and some of the legacy customers are losing their tenure unless you call up and request that they put in paperwork to check your status thru your SSN.
Here's the KICK IN THE NUTS. Even IF you are a 10 year plus customer you STILL have to subscribe to a plan of $169.99 (family plan) or $89 (single plan) to get the yearly upgrade. For me that's an extra $40 a month (as I am on the $129 family plan) or $480 a year JUST TO UPGRADE one of my lines per year. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Sprint can goto hell. This is how they reward loyalty even thou they are bleeding money and soon to be customers. I will be leaving Sprint even if I have to pay an ETF. What a bunch of jokers.
Just posted on Phandroid
[Update] Sprint Premier Program is Not Going Away, Just Adding a New Tier Starting April 1st
Read on for Sprint’s official statement on the matter.
Sprint is updating the program for 2011 with two tiers of benefits, Sprint Premier Silver and Sprint Premier Gold, making sure that Sprint Premier Silver retains the benefits that were popular with the most customers. Effective 4/1/11:
Sprint Premier Gold customers must only meet ONE of the following three qualifications:
· Individual plans with a 3-month average MRC** of at least $89.99, or
· Shared plans with a 3-month average MRC** of at least $169.99 MRC, or
· Tenure of 10+ years with Sprint
Sprint Premier Silver customers must only meet ONE of the following two qualifications:
· Individual plans with a 3-month average MRC** of $69.99 – $89.98, or
· Shared plans with a 3-month average MRC** of $99.99 – $169.98
Once Sprint Premier Silver customers reach 10 years service with Sprint, they automatically are graduated to Sprint Premier Gold status regardless of the plan they are on.
** 3-month average MRC is based on voice plans only, not including add-on services, and is figured before any discounts are applied.
In addition to the change noted above, it’s important to highlight that both Sprint Premier Gold and Silver customers will continue to receive all the other perks: discounts on accessories, proactive plan checks and just because offers; device credits that are among the best in the industry; and exclusive extras like Premier Community, anniversary rewards and first to know.
Sprint Premier remains one of the best customer loyalty programs in the wireless industry. When compared to other national carriers, the Sprint Premier package of benefits far outranks any rewards program currently offered.
I read that "Must Only Meet One" BUT this is what I was told by a Sprint Escalation Management Member (they could be off their rocker and not know much as well). Knowing Sprint, I highly doubt their employees are informed correctly.
ghodzilla5150 said:
I read that "Must Only Meet One" BUT this is what I was told by a Sprint Escalation Management Member (they could be off their rocker and not know much as well). Knowing Sprint, I highly doubt their employees are informed correctly.
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I think that person gave you some wrong information.
Also from that statement from Sprint:
Once Sprint Premier Silver customers reach 10 years service with Sprint, they automatically are graduated to Sprint Premier Gold status regardless of the plan they are on.
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You got the wrong information. 10 year tenure automatically gives you premier.
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Silver and find receive device credits read the astrixxed paragraph
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I just talked to Sprint. I have an Employee Referral (used to be sero, but had to upgrade for my Hero) Its called Everything Plus Family 1600. My total Plan is $150 before taxes, thats with insurance on 3 phones and the $10 4G fee.
So I am under the $169, but i have 11 years with sprint. The employee plans representative told me that I had Tier 3 Premier Member and when it switches I will be converted to Gold status.
Looks like all you need is ONE of the items listed as a prerequisite.
Edit: I did my math wrong my plan totals $160.98 before all fees and taxes.
Im in kind of the same boat. Ive been with sprint since 2001, so I SHOULD be a gold customer now. But a few months ago, when sprint refused to replace my faulty phone, I told them "Is this how you treat a customer of 10 years?" The guy told me I'm lying, because their system shows I started in 2005, which is a complete lie, because I know for a fact I started in 2001, right after I graduated high school. Basterds..
sminker said:
and the $10 4G fee.
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Grrr. . . .
Well we qualify for the $169 deal, but we wouldn't have if Sprint hadn't attached the "premium data" fees to all three of our lines.
So uh .... thanks Sprint? I guess?
ghodzilla5150 said:
I just spoke with someone in the Sprint Escalation management team because I am having an issue with my 10 year status. I have been with Sprint since 2000 BUT it only shows since 2005. They changed systems in 2005 and some of the legacy customers are losing their tenure unless you call up and request that they put in paperwork to check your status thru your SSN.
Here's the KICK IN THE NUTS. Even IF you are a 10 year plus customer you STILL have to subscribe to a plan of $169.99 (family plan) or $89 (single plan) to get the yearly upgrade. For me that's an extra $40 a month (as I am on the $129 family plan) or $480 a year JUST TO UPGRADE one of my lines per year. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Sprint can goto hell. This is how they reward loyalty even thou they are bleeding money and soon to be customers. I will be leaving Sprint even if I have to pay an ETF. What a bunch of jokers.
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Hmmm.....not to go against what you were told but there is Sprint literature that explicitly states that customers who have a tenure of 10 years or more will be premier regardless of their plan. We'll see though...
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blassilando said:
Just posted on Phandroid
[Update] Sprint Premier Program is Not Going Away, Just Adding a New Tier Starting April 1st
Read on for Sprint’s official statement on the matter.
Sprint is updating the program for 2011 with two tiers of benefits, Sprint Premier Silver and Sprint Premier Gold, making sure that Sprint Premier Silver retains the benefits that were popular with the most customers. Effective 4/1/11:
Sprint Premier Gold customers must only meet ONE of the following three qualifications:
· Individual plans with a 3-month average MRC** of at least $89.99, or
· Shared plans with a 3-month average MRC** of at least $169.99 MRC, or
· Tenure of 10+ years with Sprint
Sprint Premier Silver customers must only meet ONE of the following two qualifications:
· Individual plans with a 3-month average MRC** of $69.99 – $89.98, or
· Shared plans with a 3-month average MRC** of $99.99 – $169.98
Once Sprint Premier Silver customers reach 10 years service with Sprint, they automatically are graduated to Sprint Premier Gold status regardless of the plan they are on.
** 3-month average MRC is based on voice plans only, not including add-on services, and is figured before any discounts are applied.
In addition to the change noted above, it’s important to highlight that both Sprint Premier Gold and Silver customers will continue to receive all the other perks: discounts on accessories, proactive plan checks and just because offers; device credits that are among the best in the industry; and exclusive extras like Premier Community, anniversary rewards and first to know.
Sprint Premier remains one of the best customer loyalty programs in the wireless industry. When compared to other national carriers, the Sprint Premier package of benefits far outranks any rewards program currently offered.
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So when this goes into effect in April will that give me a chance to break my contract b/c of the change? Or is it not really a 'contract' thing but a 'perk' they're taking away?
liquidtrance said:
So when this goes into effect in April will that give me a chance to break my contract b/c of the change? Or is it not really a 'contract' thing but a 'perk' they're taking away?
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It's a perk
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CocoaGoddess said:
Well we qualify for the $169 deal, but we wouldn't have if Sprint hadn't attached the "premium data" fees to all three of our lines.
So uh .... thanks Sprint? I guess?
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No, you wont... Is 169 base plan BEFORE any options or taxes, and.bb the premium data fee is an option
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I'm trying to figure this out, but I cannot get a firm answer anywhere else.
I have a Vibrant (duh). I actually got it the day it was released. (July 13 of 2010? Something like that?). I like it, but time to move on. T-Mobile, like with so many other handsets in the past, has abandoned it.
I am planning on going over to Verizon for a few reasons. One is because I moved to a different part of the country and T-Mobile's service out here near the Atlanta area sucks. Constantly dropping calls, not getting calls, dropping down to EDGE for no reason, etc. Another is because I'm getting really tired of T-Mobile dropping support for all of their popular devices after 6-8 months. And the other is because the new Nexus device, which is heavily rumored to be LTE, intriques me.
My question is, say I waited until the end of December to switch over. I still have until that magical day in July to wait before my contract expires, but if I wanted to break it...how much would that be? I'm hearing all sorts of numbers...100, 200, 80-something. If someone could shed some light on their ETF policy, and perhaps ways to avoid it, I would be forever grateful.
If you have more than 180 days(6 months) left on your contract, then the ETF is 200.
If you have less than 180 days left on your contract, then the amount is reduced and begins to be prorated.
Additionaly, T-Mobile has made a change to their contract. Back in the day, if you moved to a Non-T-mobile area....they would allow you out of your contract without an ETF. T-Mobile no longer cares if you move to a non t-mobile service area, you are responsible for the ETF. Additionaly, if you move to a non T-Mobile service area, and you roam excessively they will cancel you and ask that you pay the ETF.
Carrier contracts are honestly bull****. There needs to be a class action lawsuit, because things just don't seem to jive about these contracts.
The above information is effective as of July 24, 2011.
For you....visit this link and click the correct date above for YOUR term-conditions.
http://www.t-mobile.com/Templates/Popup.aspx?PAsset=Ftr_Ftr_TermsAndConditions&print=true
Contracts/Renewels signed between June 28, 2008 and July 18, 2010....the following applies:
3. * Your Term of Service and Termination Fees. You agree to maintain Service with us for your minimum term (‘Term”). (Periods of suspension of Service do not count toward your Term.) After your Term, you will become a month-to-month customer. EXCEPT FOR MONTH-TO-MONTH CUSTOMERS, AN EARLY TERMINATION FEE WILL APPLY IF YOU CHOOSE TO END YOUR SERVICE BEFORE THE END OF YOUR TERM, OR IF WE TERMINATE IT EARLY. FOR SERVICE ACTIVATED, OR ACCEPTANCE OF A NEW ONE OR TWO YEAR TERM, ON OR AFTER 06/28/08, THE EARLY TERMINATION FEE IS: $200 IF YOU TERMINATE WITH MORE THAN 180 DAYS REMAINING ON YOUR TERM; $100 IF YOU TERMINATE WITH 91 TO 180 DAYS REMAINING ON YOUR TERM; $50 IF YOU TERMINATE WITH 31 TO 91 DAYS REMAINING ON YOUR TERM; AND THE LESSER OF $50 OR YOUR MONTHLY RECURRING CHARGES (including any applicable taxes and fees) IF YOU TERMINATE IN THE LAST 30 DAYS OF YOUR TERM. The Early Termination Fee is part of our rates and is not a penalty. The Early Termination Fee applies only to the extent permitted by law. Unless you request otherwise, your termination will be effective at the end of your current billing cycle. You will remain responsible for all fees and charges for your Service and usage through termination. If you bought your wireless Device from an independent T-Mobile dealer or other third-party vendor, they may charge a separate termination fee.
If I did my math correct, you have 9 months left on your contract, which is more than 180 days, you would owe the full 200. I would say wait until 6 months, for it to drop down to 100 then cancel if you really want to leave.
i can't wait to cancel t-mobile. the service in my new area is terrible, even though its green on their map. i'll be doing so around november when it drops to $100 for my etf.
In addition T-mobile charges tax on ETF. In my case it was 200 + 40 just for ETF.
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