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rooted ota

Will there be a rooted ota for people who didn't install it or never got it. I rooted my phone and would like the better radio in hopes I will get more cell bars

There's already the option to root if you already applied the OTA update or are planning to.
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Sv3nt3k said:
There's already the option to root if you already applied the OTA update or are planning to.
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i dont understand what u mean i have perm root without the ota. If i install the ota it will break root. Will i have to go thru the whole process again if i do this? I know on the mytouchslide when they came out with an ota they just rooted it so it wouldnt break the current root

i havent tried perm root yet. however search this site for 'visionary' root, which is all u really need for now. i had visionary root installed along with several root only apps (titanium backup, cachemate, setcpu, several others) and the OTA installed while my phone was rooted with absolutely no problems.

I installed the ota over the perm root and now I have no superuser permissions. When I try to run visionary it says my phone is already rooted yet I cannot run apps that require root or get the # in termal can anyone help with this

lol
the "#" denotes root access lol...... (coming from a marginal linux background..)

richierich118 said:
I installed the ota over the perm root and now I have no superuser permissions. When I try to run visionary it says my phone is already rooted yet I cannot run apps that require root or get the # in termal can anyone help with this
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Have you tried reapplying s-off?
I am also interested in getting a solution because right before I rooted my phone I started getting ota update notifications for my phone and now I cant upgrade my phone but the notifications continue to persist. So I figure if I can get a rooted update or delete something, I can get rid of notifications.

ok i got it working what i did was do what somesaid in the begining and that was to follow the guide that doesnt use visionary for perm root. I think its call temp to perm root. I always had the s-off just not the perm root. everything is fine now

At least you were able to apply the update. I tried doing that and Clockworks Recovery halted it because some signature was verified or something.

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At least you were able to apply the update. I tried doing that and Clockworks Recovery halted it because some signature was verified or something.
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I didnt use clockworks recover i used the orginal. It just made me loose root and not s-off so i used the temp-too-perm root to get it back because visionary was saying my phone was already rooted. I believe I was getting this cause i had rooted without the ota the first time. The second time i used the ota.ko Instead of the preota.ko because i used this when i didnt update to the ota on the first run.

Oh, okay. Thanks for that. I'm currently in the same boat you were in. I applied the OTA and it's reporting S-OFF, Visionary is saying I'm rooted, but certain things aren't working.
In the process of getting it fixed.
EDIT: Went through the same process you did and I'm all good to go. I was able to apply the OTA update after rooting it and then re-rooted it.

so how exactly did you root you perma root your phone again after ota.
i have perma root right now, its pre-ota, i do want to install ota though.. would i have to go back and do the manual perma-root with the "ota" files now instead of the other ones. im just confused and want to clear this up before i do anything stupid. thanks!

[Q] i Cannot root again...( since V. 2.3.4)

hi. i updated my phone to 2.3.4 (sys 4.5.91 us) and i cannot get my root back. im pretty new to root but i do not want anything but root. not unlock, not new rom, not anything except root.
i had the latest version of Android and used Gingerbreak and i was extremely happy as it was so easy for me to do. i had root and that's all i wanted. but now... i updated to 2.3.4 and i did not unroot before this (maybe this is my problem) but my phone is fine, everything runs great. but i cannot root it. i used this walk-through http://www.atrixforums.com/forum/motorola-atrix-hacks/4414-how-root-motorola-atrix-all-versions-including-stock-locked-2-3-4-a.html and finished it all. everything went through and i still don't have root.
i have done it 3 times now and successfully competed the steps. i still have no root. can someone direct me or walk me through another way of rooting or by chance giving me advice on what to do so i can get root? im not a scientist and i know it doesn't take one...but all i know is i just cant get my phone rooted and want it rooted badly.
someone please help me. i searched all over the forums and keep finding the steps i followed and then also found unlock steps(something i do not want to do)
all i want is root. please keep that in mind.

Hammernok said:
hi. i updated my phone to 2.3.4 (sys 4.5.91 us) and i cannot get my root back. im pretty new to root but i do not want anything but root. not unlock, not new rom, not anything except root.
i had the latest version of Android and used Gingerbreak and i was extremely happy as it was so easy for me to do. i had root and that's all i wanted. but now... i updated to 2.3.4 and i did not unroot before this (maybe this is my problem) but my phone is fine, everything runs great. but i cannot root it. i used this walk-through http://www.atrixforums.com/forum/motorola-atrix-hacks/4414-how-root-motorola-atrix-all-versions-including-stock-locked-2-3-4-a.html and finished it all. everything went through and i still don't have root.
i have done it 3 times now and successfully competed the steps. i still have no root. can someone direct me or walk me through another way of rooting or by chance giving me advice on what to do so i can get root? im not a scientist and i know it doesn't take one...but all i know is i just cant get my phone rooted and want it rooted badly.
someone please help me. i searched all over the forums and keep finding the steps i followed and then also found unlock steps(something i do not want to do)
all i want is root. please keep that in mind.
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I used this method on my OTA gingerbread.
At first, it gave me errors and pretty much wouldn't work past command line, but in reality, Superuser was installed and I was able to launch it.
Do you have Superuser in your app drawer?

yes i do have super user. and i am able to launch it. but it does not unlock anything.
i got no errors. i did everything correctly and still i dont have root access. maybe im missing something?? i try to run Titanium backup and it said no root access. said the same thing with Root explorer.
superuser runs... but it doesnt have anything unlocked. i try to update superuser and it wont let me.
silentecho13 said:
I used this method on my OTA gingerbread.
At first, it gave me errors and pretty much wouldn't work past command line, but in reality, Superuser was installed and I was able to launch it.
Do you have Superuser in your app drawer?
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Hammernok said:
yes i do have super user. and i am able to launch it. but it does not unlock anything.
i got no errors. i did everything correctly and still i dont have root access. maybe im missing something?? i try to run Titanium backup and it said no root access. said the same thing with Root explorer.
superuser runs... but it doesnt have anything unlocked. i try to update superuser and it wont let me.
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hmm, you can try going to manage apps and clearing superuser's data, and then maybe attempt the process again.
I had to clear data to get superuser to do anything at all when I rooted.

i read that before i attempted it the third time. i cleared data then completed the steps and still... my superuser runs but apparently i do not have root access.
superuser does not ask if i want to allow for root access for any programs like TB or Root Explorer as it should.
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hmm, you can try going to manage apps and clearing superuser's data, and then maybe attempt the process again.
I had to clear data to get superuser to do anything at all when I rooted.
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and i meant that i had read about that before attempting the entire process for the third time. i read on another post that someone had it installed already and had to clear the data so... i did that before my third attempt.
still no root!

Hammernok said:
and i meant that i had read about that before attempting the entire process for the third time. i read on another post that someone had it installed already and had to clear the data so... i did that before my third attempt.
still no root!
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Check this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1138204

Kindle Fire lost root. Rooted with Burrito Root

Interesting issue I found today.
I have an Amazon Kindle Fire that I rooted using the Burrito Root method as described in the stickied thread above entitled: "Video guide to rooting etc..."
I followed the instructions as presented in the You Tube video, and achieved root.
I loaded the android market and downloaded the apps I had previously with no dramas. They all run fine.
Last night I downloaded Voodoo OTA Root Keeper as described in another thread.
I got to playing around with it today, and it said I did not have root access. Used the root checker utility as posted in the you tube video previously mentioned, and it too says no root. Attempted to use root explorer, and again no root. Power off and back on, same deal.
Weird to say the least. As far as I know, I have not had an update to the kindle firmware (current version: 6.2.1_user_3103920) which appears to be unchanged since I rooted. There were no issues when I rooted, and all functioned as it should have (rooted I mean)
The only thing I did do in the previous week was download an amazon movie to the device.
Any ideas on WTF happened?
I had been considering installing TWRP...now I am wondering if I should re-root using the same method, or uninstall the stuff I put on in the originl root, and just load TWRP, and do it that way?
Thanks for any input.

Burrito Root gives you root through ADB. In order to get permanent root that's usable by applications such as Root Explorer you need to push the su binary and install the superuser.apk. Not sure if that was covered in whatever video you watched, but there should be instructions and download links kicking around here and rootzwiki somewhere.

Easiest way is to use this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1399889 and use option 2 then 3. should be good to go after that.

skourg3 said:
Burrito Root gives you root through ADB. In order to get permanent root that's usable by applications such as Root Explorer you need to push the su binary and install the superuser.apk. Not sure if that was covered in whatever video you watched, but there should be instructions and download links kicking around here and rootzwiki somewhere.
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For clarification, as I failed to mention it in my original post.
Superuser.apk was installed, as were all commands done through ADB as prescribed...it appeared to have worked flawlessly. Until now. LOL
I am new to the fire, not new to android.
It is rather puzzling, as I have never experienced this type of issue before.

Re use ota root keeper and restore your root
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silvertrd said:
For clarification, as I failed to mention it in my original post.
Superuser.apk was installed, as were all commands done through ADB as prescribed...it appeared to have worked flawlessly. Until now. LOL
I am new to the fire, not new to android.
It is rather puzzling, as I have never experienced this type of issue before.
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Superuser.apk and the su binary are separate things. These are the original instructions. Not sure what the video you watched suggests.
The su binary goes into /system/xbin and you need to:
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adb shell chown 0.0 /system/xbin/su
adb shell chmod 06755 /system/xbin/su
When Superuser.apk is installed it gets put into /data/app. If you've only done one, but not the other, that's most likely causing your issue.
*Edit* In your original post you mentioned messing around with OTA Rootkeeper. There's a checkbox that backs up the su binary. Maybe it was unchecked when you temporarily unrooted? There's also a button that deletes the su binary backup. Very possible one of these led to your issue.

phunky123 said:
Easiest way is to use this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1399889 and use option 2 then 3. should be good to go after that.
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I had looked at that. My question doing it using that method:
Do I need to uninstall/delete anything from my previous root? or will that program overwrite superuser, etc?
ghost_og:
The video I watched was the same video you link to.
I copied and pasted all of the commands into the adb shell as nat3mil describes.
I wonder where I went wrong? Weird.
Can I just connect the kindle to my computer, run burrito root, and then re-push the commands via adb as described ? I just don't wanna bork it up and brick it.

Veritass said:
Re use ota root keeper and restore your root
Sent from my Kindle Fire using xda premium
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Great idea! Just now tried that after seeing your suggestion. No joy. FML.

silvertrd said:
Can I just connect the kindle to my computer, run burrito root, and then re-push the commands via adb as described ? I just don't wanna bork it up and brick it.
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It should be fine. I remember having to run it twice and I never went through and deleted anything. Here's something interesting: I checked both /system/bin and /system/xbin when I was rooted and unrooted. Even though I originally installed su to /system/xbin, OTA Rootkeeper places it into /system/bin upon restoring root.
I'm not saying you should do that, but just thought I'd bring it up. Maybe that has to do with why you lost root privelages out of the blue.
Also, I know certain Superuser.apk's were not working properly. The one included in the zip file at Androidpolice is actually com.noshufou.android.su-1.apk. Perhaps try using that one instead?
*Edit2* I just looked at the official thread and noticed he updated the zip and it now uses Superuser.apk. Not sure if Androidpolice ever updated their zip as well.

ghost_og:
Thanks!
I will give it a shot, and report back later this evening.
Regards,
SilverTRD

install busybox from the market and try again

KFU will tell you if it is rooted or not. just connect KF to your pc and run no harm going that far.

I am in the same situation as you are, same steps. Rooted with BR, but didn't root all the way, yet was still able to put the market apps.

My kindle Fire (non-HD) just "lost" root too!!!
No idea how it happened.
I successfully rooted last summer with the KFU and have temp un-rooted/re-rooted MANY times with OTA Rootkeeper . I went in yesterday to root, but the buttons were gone in Rootkeeper and it shows that I'm NOT rooted.
I tried to update/reinstall Superuser but I probably just made things worse.
Is there any way for me to get root back without losing all of my data??
If not, I suspect that I have to go back to KFU and do the root process again, but will this brick my Kindle???
Thanks all!

If you used KFU the first time it should work again as long as you can get good communication and the driver is still installed correctly. Do you still have twrp and fff? if so just flash modaco if you`re on stock no wipes needed and you will never have to worry about loosing root again http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1439916

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If you used KFU the first time it should work again as long as you can get good communication and the driver is still installed correctly. Do you still have twrp and fff? if so just flash modaco if you`re on stock no wipes needed and you will never have to worry about loosing root again http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1439916
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Thanks Thepooch! I'm at work now, so I'll have to wait until I get home to my laptop to try.
I had no problems with the driver or communication, so that "shouldn't" be an issue.
The root process with KFU actually went painfully smoothly when I did it over the summer so hopefully second time will be the same.
I still have twrp and fff, but I'm not sure what you mean by "just flash modaco if you`re on stock", but I'll come back if i brick.
While losing my data would suck, I won't lose much sleep if I have to wipe it.

Thanks again Thepooch.
Took less than 5 minutes to get the root back with KFU.

Don’t try OTA 4.5.141 with a rooted phone

I was getting "Failed to boot 2 starting RSD mode" error and when my Atrix tried to reboot to install the OTA update. The only way I could get to boot again was to remove the battery and put it back, and after that, it boots normally to the home screen, and after the SD card gets mounted it shuts down to try to install the OTA update and you get the same error again.
I got it working again by following the suggestions from Atrixforums.com. What I did was to flash my phone with RDS lite v5.6 using the file 1FF-olympus-user-2.3.4-4.5.91-110625-release-keys-signed-ATT-US-GAS_NA_OLPSGBATTSPE_P011 and that fixed my phone and it’s been working normally.
If you can get your phone to the home screen without rebooting or you get a different type of error, you could try the Automated Update (PC Users Only) from Motorola website (I need confirmation if this would work with a unlocked bootloader)
Details:
My phone was using the stock rom version 2.3.4
Rooted (I did not remove the root access before applying OTA 4.5.141 and this is reason why I got in this problem)
Locked bootloader (I am not sure if this would work with unlocked bootloader)
Unlocked sim card
I hope it helps,

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Those threads reference problems with unlocked phones. The OP has a rooted phone that is not unlocked. So, not a dupe per se.
That said, I upgraded my rooted-only phone with no issues. I rather suspect the OP may have unlocked his bootloader and forgotten about it.

You can OTA 141 with a locked and rooted phone. Just be sure to unroot (you need to do this manually if you ever used the fastboot preinstall method) and make sure everything is back to stock. If you used oneclick or any other root method that has an unroot, manually verify it really removed everything (su, superuser.apk, etc).

gnahc79 said:
You can OTA 141 with a locked and rooted phone. Just be sure to unroot (you need to do this manually if you ever used the fastboot preinstall method) and make sure everything is back to stock. If you used oneclick or any other root method that has an unroot, manually verify it really removed everything (su, superuser.apk, etc).
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I have used the one click easy method only and nothing else. And I agree with you, it seems that not unrooting your phone before the OTA update creates this problem. I’ll be more careful the next time when the ICS it’s available.
I just want people like me that it’s not been in the android scene for long, do not get in to this kind of problems.
It would probably be a good idea to post a check list every time a new update comes up, reminding us of the precautions that we must have. Because even if you know what you are doing If you forget just one little change you made it could lead to some problems.
Greetings,

btw, here is what I did to unroot prior to the 141 update. I rooted 2.3.4 with the fastboot preinstall method...no idea if this unroot method cleans up the one click method.
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1. Open Android Terminal Emulator
2. Type in the following commands, hitting ENTER after each line of code: (after typing 'su' below, look for the Superuser request and approve it, you can only continue if you get the # prompt.
Code:
su
mount -o rw,remount /dev/block/mmcblk0p12 /system
mount -o rw,remount /dev/block/mmcblk0p17 /preinstall
rm /system/bin/su
rm /preinstall/sqlite3
rm /preinstall/dosu
rm /preinstall/Superuser.apk
rm /preinstall/su
reboot
3. Let the phone reboot fully and then go into Settings > Applications > Manage Applications > find Superuser and uninstall it just like any other app.
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I am was also facing the same issue with OTA. I finally managed to update my rooted, locked phone via USB method using Motorola Software Updater.
Root is lost after the update.

I did the OTA on my atrix which was locked and rooted. Updated fine without any problems, but I did lose root. Can't figure out which method is safe to use to re-root.

http://www.android-advice.com/2012/root-the-motorola-atrix-4g-running-4-5-141/
k00ey said:
I did the OTA on my atrix which was locked and rooted. Updated fine without any problems, but I did lose root. Can't figure out which method is safe to use to re-root.
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live4nyy said:
http://www.android-advice.com/2012/root-the-motorola-atrix-4g-running-4-5-141/
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I used this method and it worked fine. It did give an error message that superuser was already installed but it rooted the phone anyway.
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live4nyy said:
http://www.android-advice.com/2012/root-the-motorola-atrix-4g-running-4-5-141/
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Thank you! Worked great.

charlyee said:
I used this method and it worked fine. It did give an error message that superuser was already installed but it rooted the phone
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Charlyee, did you unroot your 4G with the preinstall method prior to following these instructions? Please confirm. Thanks!

badnokia said:
Charlyee, did you unroot your 4G with the preinstall method prior to following these instructions? Please confirm. Thanks!
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I did the root saver method but I had all kinds of problems doing the OTA, so I ended up by downloading the software from the Moto website via USB.
At that point my Atrix was unrooted, but I don't know if it was the root saver method or download of the software.
I tried Motofail to root as well but that didn't work.
Hope that helps.
Sorry, didn't mean to write a thesis in answer to a simple question.
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Is it safe to use the aRoot unroot method if my Atrix is rooted and unlocked in order to update to 4.5.191?

Confirmed Success: Unroot, OTA Update, Root
Sorry if this info is redundant, but I'm super paranoid about the OTA updates & wanted to confirm what I did worked for my rooted, but locked Atrix 4G:
1) Unrooted with the directions on this page: http://www.atrixforums.com/forum/mo...ons-including-stock-locked-2-3-4-2-3-6-a.html
2) Ran OTA update
3) Rooted again with the following instructions: http://www.android-advice.com/2012/root-the-motorola-atrix-4g-running-4-5-141/

I just did sucessful update on my unlocked and rooted Motorola Atrix 4G (MB860) from 2.3.4 to 2.3.6 via RSDLite 5.6, and 1FF-olympus-user-2.3.6-4.5.141-111212-release-keys-signed-ATT-US-GAS_NA_OLPSGBATTSPE_P012.sbf SBF file.
Windows 7 64-bit Ultimate. Everything passes O.K.

I had this happen on my atrix rooted no unlocked bootloader I reflashed with the above method nd success. I unrooted my wife's atrix first and installed the ota with no problems. So unroooting first seemed to work.
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I did not have a problem at all updating to 4.5.141 with a rooted phone minus the fact I lost root until I saw the link live4nyy posted.

Just an FYI for others like me that have been waiting to pull the trigger on the update.
I was rooted with the /preinstall (briefmobile) method (had never unlocked the bootloader). I read conflicting reports on whether OTA would work, and for some reason I couldn't get the Motoroloa update program to see my phone. Rather than figuring out why it wasn't seeing my phone, I did the "unroot" steps listed by gnahc79 in this thread and then let the phone update OTA and then rooted again using the /preinstall method.
The whole process took about 30 minutes, most of that was the OTA download and install.

Did you guys have to re-hack mobile hotspot after the OTA update?
Sent from my Motorola 2-way pager

[Q] I think my root is jacked up

I tried searching but couldn't find anything related...
I was rooted before I upgraded to 4.5.141. I saw a post of someone saying they used an app called rootkeeper to temporarily disable root, installed the update, then used rootkeeper to reroot. I tried that, but now none of the apps that require root access are working properly. Is there a way to remove root from my phone? I want to remove it so I can root using the other method. thanks

And can this be done without flashing back to factory? I don't want to lose my phone's configuration

Are you sure you are rooted right now?
Try Root Checker to make sure.

i too am in the same boat with you. I ran the root checker and it confirms i'm SOL.
I just want my wifi tether back.
I don't really even remember how i rooted last summer. guess it's back to the research

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=atrix+4.5.141+root
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NOTE: In the instructions, do "Step 6" before "Step 4"
the_KEV said:
I tried searching but couldn't find anything related...
I was rooted before I upgraded to 4.5.141. I saw a post of someone saying they used an app called rootkeeper to temporarily disable root, installed the update, then used rootkeeper to reroot. I tried that, but now none of the apps that require root access are working properly. Is there a way to remove root from my phone? I want to remove it so I can root using the other method. thanks
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thecavemankevin said:
i too am in the same boat with you. I ran the root checker and it confirms i'm SOL.
I just want my wifi tether back.
I don't really even remember how i rooted last summer. guess it's back to the research
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live4nyy said:
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=atrix+4.5.141+root
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NOTE: In the instructions, do "Step 6" before "Step 4"
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or just use kennethpenn's instructions, steps are in order
http://briefmobile.com/motorola-atrix-4g-root

I followed the instructions in the last post, but got stuck on a certain step... something about not enough memory. I ended up flashing the sbf and retried to root process. Working fine now. Thanks to all

live4nyy said:
NOTE: In the instructions, do "Step 6" before "Step 4"
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Live4nyy... thanks, followed your link and it did the trick. To answer your question, "yes, that was so hard"
it is difficult to know which method to use because there seems to be lots of different ways.
thanks