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Selling my X10 before I get it?

Anyone else here feel like the Sony X10 just has too many shortcomings?
I know this phone could have some serious potential once it's rooted but what new phone won't? All new phones will have the same specs or higher, and probably won't come with all the issues Sony is infamous for.....
I'm seriously considering selling my X10 before I even open the box (still waiting on shipping) and picking up the HTC Incredible, I know the Incredible can be purchased for roughly $480US, and being an HTC I'm sure root will come fast, and in my opinion this is a much nicer phone then the X10. The only reason I was interested in an X10 was because of the screen size, and chipset, but a lot of phones will have these same specs from here on out.....
Anyone else thinking they may dump their X10 soon?

If I would lose or break my X10, I would immediately buy another one. I don’t like HTC phones, but a part of that, I’m really satisfied of my X10. My only big complaint is the poor battery life.

Blowtoke said:
Anyone else here feel like the Sony X10 just has too many shortcomings?
I know this phone could have some serious potential once it's rooted but what new phone won't? All new phones will have the same specs or higher, and probably won't come with all the issues Sony is infamous for.....
I'm seriously considering selling my X10 before I even open the box (still waiting on shipping) and picking up the HTC Incredible, I know the Incredible can be purchased for roughly $480US, and being an HTC I'm sure root will come fast, and in my opinion this is a much nicer phone then the X10. The only reason I was interested in an X10 was because of the screen size, and chipset, but a lot of phones will have these same specs from here on out.....
Anyone else thinking they may dump their X10 soon?
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Yeap I am having these thoughts over and over, and I tried expressing my feedback and I have been attacked verbally constantly like if pointing out issues in this phone was a crime.
I am pretty sure I will not finish May with this phone but I did try my best to be positive about it!

willing to swap my brand new x10 unbranded and unlocked for the htc desire

Diamond777 said:
Yeap I am having these thoughts over and over, and I tried expressing my feedback and I have been attacked verbally constantly like if pointing out issues in this phone was a crime.
I am pretty sure I will not finish May with this phone but I did try my best to be positive about it!
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That's because you're trolling.

So i have had HTCs in the past and i have one major complaint about it. it's nice to hold, touch, use but it's not designed for extended use. all the HTCs i have had have become very hot on extended use, to the point that they shut down. this starts with the DASH, Diamond, and even the Nexus one.
i currently have the x10 and i use it like crazy, while driving (by attaching it to the car charger) and because of the excess space between the battery and back cover the phone does not shut off.
that's one thing.
other than that, i just feel that rooting is not that important if you can do what you want to do on the phone as it is. the only thing i miss is the WiFi Tether. but then again, i think the x10 is amazing to browse the net, i tend to not pick up my laptop at home.
i like the shape, the edges and the feel of the x10.
personally the only thing that seems to be a bit of a let down is the battery. with everything (gmail sync, 3G, auto brightness, time scape with sync) on, excluding the GPS, WiFi and Bluetooth i get about 16 hours of use, that includes chatting on GTalk, checking mail, listening to music, playing on the phone, facebook, etc. which is not bad
BUT it's less than what my GFs nexus one gives, that phone lasts a day and a half, but she has less usage too.
I have ordered the HTC HD2, will give that a shot and update this but i don't think i am going to let go of the x10.

If this is not what you wanted I'd say get something else. Go where your heart went.
I have one for almost 2 weeks now and the only 2 things that sticked out are the battery life (or the lack of ) and SE released it with Android 1.6. MT is not really a big issue with me. Other than that I haven't had any issue with it. I have had an X1 for a few days and this is a big step ahead of the X1 by a wide margin.

I appreciate everyones input as I'm still on the fence as to what to do with my X10 (if it ever gets here!!!).......
I see most of you are generally happy with your X10, but would you rather have an X10 or an HTC Incredible?

Blowtoke said:
I appreciate everyones input as I'm still on the fence as to what to do with my X10 (if it ever gets here!!!).......
I see most of you are generally happy with your X10, but would you rather have an X10 or an HTC Incredible?
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I had an HTC Desire and now own a X10 both have their good and bad points, but the X10 is staying as my phone, the better camera and the 4" screen makes this a much better phone, and once 2.1 comes out it's going to take some beating.

Blowtoke said:
I appreciate everyones input as I'm still on the fence as to what to do with my X10 (if it ever gets here!!!).......
I see most of you are generally happy with your X10, but would you rather have an X10 or an HTC Incredible?
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If I wanted an HTC Incredible/Desire I would have bought one. They're pretty much the same, and the X10 will get Android 2.1 later this year. The big negative with the HTC is the screen, you can't see it in the daylight/sun per Engadget:
Another somewhat major issue that we struggled with on the Incredible (just as we did on the Nexus One) was the awful screen visibility in bright daylight. We had numerous occasions where we simply could not answer a call or take a picture due to the AMOLED display's poor showing outdoors. In overcast settings (such as the one above) it was usually bearable, and If you crank the brightness all the way up on sunnier days you can get some visibility, though once you're outside and can't see the display, that's a bit of a challenge. In all honesty, we love certain aspects of these screens, but we're perplexed as to why HTC continues to use this same display when it's clear the daylight performance is hamstrung.
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Plus the styling of the phones is a big difference for me, I like the X10's more, especially the back.

Bialynia said:
If I wanted an HTC Incredible/Desire I would have bought one. They're pretty much the same, and the X10 will get Android 2.1 later this year. The big negative with the HTC is the screen, you can't see it in the daylight/sun per Engadget:
Plus the styling of the phones is a big difference for me, I like the X10's more, especially the back.
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You raise a good point, and with summer here (I'll be outside more) that could definitely be an issue for me.
I must admit I'm starting to think keeping my X10 might be the way to go, especially with Paul on board now for the rooting! It's bound to happen soon!

isn't the incredible just a poshed-up version of the desire? i think the only difference is the support for flash, and doesn't this just come with an update to 2.2?

There are practical reasons to not getting the x10, to name a few:
- the screen supports primitive 65K colours at best, you can be sure that everything on that phone is looking as best as it can right now. it wont ever look much better.
- the screen is TFT standard, ie. bad sunlight legibility, bad contrast ratio among other things
- 384 MB of RAM as opposed to 512 MB at the LEAST from rivals, why is this important? if you want to do more, you need more resources. i guess someone can confirm the RAM usage on an average x10? expect it to go even higher once 2.1 is on there and man with 2.2 that thing is gonna be SLOW to run several apps at once (weren't a lot of people b*tching about not being able to multi-task?)
- SD card maxes at 16 gb, with a screen that big, you want to do stuff, stuff that will require space. rivals are at 32 gb by the way.
every other issue that i hear about this phone is strictly software and you should never reject a phone for software alone. software can be created, updated and becomes obsolete, the hardware that you're holding is there to stay much longer.
inferior hardware is way more than enough reason to pass up an offer on the phone.

kr3w1337 said:
There are practical reasons to not getting the x10, to name a few:
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Your post is nonsense and drivel, classic trolling from someone who knows little about the actual phone.
kr3w1337 said:
- the screen supports primitive 65K colours at best, you can be sure that everything on that phone is looking as best as it can right now. it wont ever look much better.
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The screen supports 16m colors, Android 1.6 does not. It doesn't matter though because even with 65k colors the Xperia has the best looking screen of any one out at the moment, and when it gets the 2.1 upgrade it will have 16m, so basically your entire statement from start to finish was false.
kr3w1337 said:
- the screen is TFT standard, ie. bad sunlight legibility, bad contrast ratio among other things
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This shows how clueless you are. You know what gives terrible sunlight legibility? AMOLED screens that HTC has, the X10 has the best sunlight legibility of any screen out there, don't take my word for it read ANY review genius. LCD screens have always been brighter then anything else.
kr3w1337 said:
- 384 MB of RAM as opposed to 512 MB at the LEAST from rivals, why is this important? if you want to do more, you need more resources. i guess someone can confirm the RAM usage on an average x10? expect it to go even higher once 2.1 is on there and man with 2.2 that thing is gonna be SLOW to run several apps at once (weren't a lot of people b*tching about not being able to multi-task?)
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It would be nice if that mattered in actual user experience.
kr3w1337 said:
- SD card maxes at 16 gb, with a screen that big, you want to do stuff, stuff that will require space. rivals are at 32 gb by the way.
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SE only lists what is available at launch on the spec sheet, the X10 supports the 32gb SD card and it was confirmed it would prior to launch.
kr3w1337 said:
every other issue that i hear about this phone is strictly software and you should never reject a phone for software alone. software can be created, updated and becomes obsolete, the hardware that you're holding is there to stay much longer.
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The hardware is absolutely top of the line on the X10.
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inferior hardware is way more than enough reason to pass up an offer on the phone.
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Your post was 90% made up, and you seem to think the X10 has inferior hardware, where did you get that absurd notion?

Can you just sell it and stop bugging us? Why ask anonymous people on a message board what you should do with your phone? Its annoying and lame.

kr3w1337 said:
There are practical reasons to not getting the x10, to name a few:
- the screen supports primitive 65K colours at best, you can be sure that everything on that phone is looking as best as it can right now. it wont ever look much better.
- the screen is TFT standard, ie. bad sunlight legibility, bad contrast ratio among other things
- 384 MB of RAM as opposed to 512 MB at the LEAST from rivals, why is this important? if you want to do more, you need more resources. i guess someone can confirm the RAM usage on an average x10? expect it to go even higher once 2.1 is on there and man with 2.2 that thing is gonna be SLOW to run several apps at once (weren't a lot of people b*tching about not being able to multi-task?)
- SD card maxes at 16 gb, with a screen that big, you want to do stuff, stuff that will require space. rivals are at 32 gb by the way.
every other issue that i hear about this phone is strictly software and you should never reject a phone for software alone. software can be created, updated and becomes obsolete, the hardware that you're holding is there to stay much longer.
inferior hardware is way more than enough reason to pass up an offer on the phone.
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kr3w1337 don't troll and at least do your homework before posting.
Bialynia said:
Your post is nonsense and drivel, classic trolling from someone who knows little about the actual phone.
The screen supports 16m colors, Android 1.6 does not. It doesn't matter though because even with 65k colors the Xperia has the best looking screen of any one out at the moment, and when it gets the 2.1 upgrade it will have 16m, so basically your entire statement from start to finish was false.
This shows how clueless you are. You know what gives terrible sunlight legibility? AMOLED screens that HTC has, the X10 has the best sunlight legibility of any screen out there, don't take my word for it read ANY review genius. LCD screens have always been brighter then anything else.
It would be nice if that mattered in actual user experience.
SE only lists what is available at launch on the spec sheet, the X10 supports the 32gb SD card and it was confirmed it would prior to launch.
The hardware is absolutely top of the line on the X10.
Your post was 90% made up, and you seem to think the X10 has inferior hardware, where did you get that absurd notion?
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Brilliant reply Bialynia.
I can confirm about the screen brightness BTW, I have an x10 and my wife to be has the Desire. I came close to switching to the Desire but it's just so... boring. It's just another HTC phone with Sense UI (DO NOT WANT).
Yes indoors the Desire is brighter (though now to the extent I want to swap my phone_ but have any sort of exterior light on the screen and your borked, not the case with the x10.

forzanerazzurri said:
Can you just sell it and stop bugging us? Why ask anonymous people on a message board what you should do with your phone? Its annoying and lame.
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forzanerazzurri, this is part of the reason these forums are here.....for discussion, you don't like it, don't read it. Not sure how I'm bugging people????
I'm asking current owners of the X10 if they are happy with their X10 because I don't have mine yet, and after reading a lot of the posts here in this forum (including one of yours!) I wasn't sure if I would be keeping the phone or not.
If you don't have something constructive to say in this topic don't bother reading it......

Well, i watched movies for 3 hours last weeend.
Outside.
That screen is impressive.
And even with 65k colors supported now, i didn't miss anything.
Oh, i'm wondering now, if 65k colors are enough to watch re-encoded from divx to mp4 movies, why those phones need 16mil colors?
What is pissing me off is that i don't know if is possible to have a wallpaper for each of the three virtual screens

kr3w1337 said:
There are practical reasons to not getting the x10, to name a few:
- the screen supports primitive 65K colours at best, you can be sure that everything on that phone is looking as best as it can right now. it wont ever look much better.
- the screen is TFT standard, ie. bad sunlight legibility, bad contrast ratio among other things
- 384 MB of RAM as opposed to 512 MB at the LEAST from rivals, why is this important? if you want to do more, you need more resources. i guess someone can confirm the RAM usage on an average x10? expect it to go even higher once 2.1 is on there and man with 2.2 that thing is gonna be SLOW to run several apps at once (weren't a lot of people b*tching about not being able to multi-task?)
- SD card maxes at 16 gb, with a screen that big, you want to do stuff, stuff that will require space. rivals are at 32 gb by the way.
every other issue that i hear about this phone is strictly software and you should never reject a phone for software alone. software can be created, updated and becomes obsolete, the hardware that you're holding is there to stay much longer.
inferior hardware is way more than enough reason to pass up an offer on the phone.
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tuxStyle said:
Well, i watched movies for 3 hours last weeend.
Outside.
That screen is impressive.
And even with 65k colors supported now, i didn't miss anything.
Oh, i'm wondering now, if 65k colors are enough to watch re-encoded from divx to mp4 movies, why those phones need 16mil colors?
What is pissing me off is that i don't know if is possible to have a wallpaper for each of the three virtual screens
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65k is enough for anything, once you get to a certain point as far color density or resolution the numbers don't mean much of anything. Nokia always had the better specs on screens but if you compared the screens to that of an SE phone the SE's always had better colors, saturation, brightness etc. despite the better Nokia numbers. Here you have a Sony Ericsson C902 (262144 colors) and Nokia 6300 (16777216 colors)

[Q] Nexus S owners, convince me to get this phone!

Hi Nexus S owners,
So am I am torn between the Xperia Arc, or Nexus S as my next phone.
I want to know some real stories here, what do you love about the nexus S, what is not so great?
I made a list of pros and cons of the device, tell me if there is anything I should add
Pros:
seems very stable
updates delivered in a timely fashion
no bloatware
fast
larger internal memory (than Arc)
Cons:
only 16GB storage
camera is not as nice as the Arc
Here are some things I would like to know:
Is there better camera software in the app store that may improve the stock camera?
How is the screen in bright daylight?
In my head, I am leaning towards this phone, mostly because of the lack of carrier/manufacturer "bloatware", and the fact that I will get updates straight from Google whenever they come out. But the main thing that is holding me back is the camera. I am a photographer, and always like to have a camera with me. I can't always carry my DSLR, so I need something that can function as a half decent P&S.

123go! said:
Hi Nexus S owners,
So am I am torn between the Xperia Arc, or Nexus S as my next phone.
I want to know some real stories here, what do you love about the nexus S, what is not so great?
I made a list of pros and cons of the device, tell me if there is anything I should add
Pros:
seems very stable
updates delivered in a timely fashion
no bloatware
fast
larger internal memory (than Arc)
Cons:
only 16GB storage
camera is not as nice as the Arc
Here are some things I would like to know:
Is there better camera software in the app store that may improve the stock camera?
How is the screen in bright daylight?
In my head, I am leaning towards this phone, mostly because of the lack of carrier/manufacturer "bloatware", and the fact that I will get updates straight from Google whenever they come out. But the main thing that is holding me back is the camera. I am a photographer, and always like to have a camera with me. I can't always carry my DSLR, so I need something that can function as a half decent P&S.
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You should get whatever you want, I'm not going to try to convince you. But I will answer your questions
Camera software: Vignette is the best on the market. It takes fantastic uncompressed pictures and improves ANY camera hardware in my opinion.
Sunlight: I have never seen another phone that is as readable in the sunlight as the Nexus S. The SAMOLED is tailor-made for this. It's miles ahead of any other screen technology when it comes to sunlight visibility. It's one of the strongest features of the Nexus S.

Thanks!
I am merely looking for real user experiences. I still need to go to the store to play around with both of the phones.
Thats good to hear about the sunlight visibility. How do you find the camera on the nexus s? Does the vignette app add touch to focus?

123go! said:
Thanks!
I am merely looking for real user experiences. I still need to go to the store to play around with both of the phones.
Thats good to hear about the sunlight visibility. How do you find the camera on the nexus s? Does the vignette app add touch to focus?
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Yes it adds touch to focus
I have the SLCD screen on the Nexus S, I've never seen a screen this amazing. It's fantastic in broad daylight, actually, it doesn't even matter in where you use it, it's always legible.
The camera is good, for a 5MP it's really good. It has no digital zoom though, beware, some people want that feature
Greetz

123go! said:
Thanks!
I am merely looking for real user experiences. I still need to go to the store to play around with both of the phones.
Thats good to hear about the sunlight visibility. How do you find the camera on the nexus s? Does the vignette app add touch to focus?
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The camera is very good. It takes better photos than any other mobile device I have owned (2nd would be Evo 4G which was not bad at all).
Your idea to go play with the phones is a good one. I was only mildly interested in the Nexus S until I was at Best Buy one day and they had one and I got to hold it. There was no turning back. I knew then there was no other phone in the world for me

the version here in canada is the AMOLED one. Digital zoom is not an issue at all
My current phone is a SE C905a, w/ 8mp camera. Camera is a big deal to me, but from what I have seen in reviews, it's not too bad. I even compared the camera's on gsmarena between the arc and the nexus s, and they seem comparable. Minus the fact that the Arc has 720p video

well, despite of low specs, camera is really good, i can't compare with arc camera, but i'm coming from a desire hd (what was announced as best android camera by that time) and i prefer nxs camera, mainly because shots in dark places that is way better, but also, camera in DHD is mostly for still life, because it blur with any movement.
16gb is enought for me, (i used to have 8gb in my dhd it was never full), and now, with google music, the decision must be based in your data plan, if you have an "unlimited" one, you have no problem at all! Said that, i can tell you: what is avalaible for storage is only 13,3gb, don't ask me why.
about screen sunligh, i can't help you, since i have a 9023 (with slcd).
another thing: i really think you should get both in your hand and decide, most things are not in specs lists, they are in how you fell with the phone. eg, i really hate 'haptic feedback' in nexus s and i loved in DHD and that is a thing i can't know without get it in my hand.
and some more things, nexus is a pretty device, looks nice with the screen off, all black, like a monolith. the cuverd screen is really beautiful (besides let it good upon your face).
BUT, the main reason i bought it is to escape of the "race for the best device of the week"... you know what i mean.
sorry for typos and bad engrish! =o)

I got this phone cuz it's Google Nexus series.
There are of course better phones out right now like the Galaxy S2 i believe with dual core or what not. When I got my NS last December, it was a pretty good phone, but if you keep holding out for something better, you'll never buy anything.

thiagodark said:
and some more things, nexus is a pretty device, looks nice with the screen off, all black, like a monolith. the cuverd screen is really beautiful (besides let it good upon your face).
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You definitly got a point. A recently cleaned Nexus S is almost a guaranteed buy (or sell, whatever pov ). One of the best looking phones while in stand-by.
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If you care about getting the latest android within a few days after being released, NxS is the only option. Beside that and the pretty looks I think Arc and NxS are pretty much on the same level. If you can't decide because of looks or the immediate updates, compare the price, still no winner, flip a coin, I think you can't go wrong really between NxS and Arc.
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Btw, the non-720p videos (scaled to 720p) shot with NxS look way better then most 720p vids from other smartphones.

rentaric said:
If you care about getting the latest android within a few days after being released, NxS is the only option. Beside that and the pretty looks I think Arc and NxS are pretty much on the same level. If you can't decide because of looks or the immediate updates, compare the price, still no winner, flip a coin, I think you can't go wrong really between NxS and Arc.
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Thats good to hear about the camera. It really is one of the few things holding me back from the nexus s vs the arc.
I do care about the updates, it seems SE has been doing better since the whole thing with the X10. But who knows how long that will last!
I love the looks of both phones. They are totally different looks wise, but both appeal to me. I think making these threads is actually making the decision harder for me! lol, I thought for sure I was going to get the arc, now I am on the fence again...

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Btw, the non-720p videos (scaled to 720p) shot with NxS look way better then most 720p vids from other smartphones.
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that's what i'm talking about, have you seen atrix 1080p videos?! it's awful.
that's a pic with an atrix:
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what do you prefer?! =oP
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123go! said:
I think making these threads is actually making the decision harder for me! lol, I thought for sure I was going to get the arc, now I am on the fence again...
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well, just post same thing in arc forum! =o)

I did!! (click here)

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I did!! (click here)
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after read it, i wanna buy a arc too!! lol..
seriously, whetever device you choose, you'll be fine! just pick one and don't look back... =o)

thiagodark said:
after read it, i wanna buy a arc too!! lol..
seriously, whetever device you choose, you'll be fine! just pick one and don't look back... =o)
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Worst thing to do when you bought a technical device. The moment the money has been spend stop looking for alternatives/replacements, that's a vicious circle
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Lol @ the guys on the Arc forums, didn't ease the question for the OP

rentaric said:
Worst thing to do when you bought a technical device. The moment the money has been spend stop looking for alternatives/replacements, that's a vicious circle
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Lol @ the guys on the Arc forums, didn't ease the question for the OP
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I know!
I think I am going to go tomorrow to play with both phones, I still have a week or so until I can get either one...I am becoming obsessive..

Don't make the MISTAKE I did...choose the Nexus S for the love of GOD. Do NOT buy the Arc.
I walked into a Rogers Store thinking I knew how the Arc would handle and feel, playing with a dummy phone WRONG. I bought the thing cash for $700 after tax and a $19 case.
I go home, fire it up and instant regret.
I will list everything wrong with the phone in my opinion:
1. Multitouch is retarded. When you try it out go into gallery and try to pinch to zoom around pics...it will not behave correctly.
2. If you can access the browser, go to a web site that allows you to pinch to zoom and just set your finger tips on the screen motionless...watch as the screen vibrates and goes crazy.
3. Screen is too thin and long. I found typing to be really bad, and SE removed speach to text from the Arc stock keyboard. Also the Arc keyboard is not multitouch.
4. The build quality is much worse than the Nexus S. The back door creeks and makes noises almost everywhere you touch it.
5. The screen IMO looks washed out, but sharp.
6. On 3 bars I dropped a call 5 times in the same call! WTF is that?
7. Arcs screen SUCKS. Its mineral glass with a thick plastic "shatter proof film" on it that not only gets scratched up too fast, but makes the screen a finger print, smudgy mess. Horrible.
Anyways the Arc is so bad I actually took my Arc (that I just had dropped $700 on 2 days before) and traded it for a used/mint Nexus S and I could not be happier. My only regret is that I did not buy the Nexus S first.
Sure the Arc has some nice features like HDMI out (I found useless really) and it does Video nice (I find the Nexus S takes better pics personally)
Go Nexus S or you'll be sorry...I can PROMISE you that...

gunstar3035 said:
Don't make the MISTAKE I did...choose the Nexus S for the love of GOD. Do NOT buy the Arc.
I walked into a Rogers Store thinking I knew how the Arc would handle and feel, playing with a dummy phone WRONG. I bought the thing cash for $700 after tax and a $19 case.
I go home, fire it up and instant regret.
I will list everything wrong with the phone in my opinion:
1. Multitouch is retarded. When you try it out go into gallery and try to pinch to zoom around pics...it will not behave correctly.
2. If you can access the browser, go to a web site that allows you to pinch to zoom and just set your finger tips on the screen motionless...watch as the screen vibrates and goes crazy.
3. Screen is too thin and long. I found typing to be really bad, and SE removed speach to text from the Arc stock keyboard. Also the Arc keyboard is not multitouch.
4. The build quality is much worse than the Nexus S. The back door creeks and makes noises almost everywhere you touch it.
5. The screen IMO looks washed out, but sharp.
6. On 3 bars I dropped a call 5 times in the same call! WTF is that?
7. Arcs screen SUCKS. Its mineral glass with a thick plastic "shatter proof film" on it that not only gets scratched up too fast, but makes the screen a finger print, smudgy mess. Horrible.
Anyways the Arc is so bad I actually took my Arc (that I just had dropped $700 on 2 days before) and traded it for a used/mint Nexus S and I could not be happier. My only regret is that I did not buy the Nexus S first.
Sure the Arc has some nice features like HDMI out (I found useless really) and it does Video nice (I find the Nexus S takes better pics personally)
Go Nexus S or you'll be sorry...I can PROMISE you that...
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Wow, this kind of things is always in the back of my mind when thinking about either one.
Do you think it was the firmware you were using? Not saying you are wrong, but just wondering.
The camera thing intrigues me, on the gsmarena camera compare tool, the nexus s did look a little better at 100% crop. Check it out.
The arc seems to be fuzzier, there is a loss of detail in the 100% crop.......
I will check all that stuff out when I go to physically use the phones, hopefully today.

I hesitated and I finally went with the NS. Reasons:
Unlocked bootloader means custom ROMs
Always up to date software
Fast smooth UI with no carrier or OEM crap on it. I'll load my own crap thank you very much.
This phone will be useable long after SE ditches support for the Arc and relegates it to the scrap heap.

mr_raider said:
I hesitated and I finally went with the NS. Reasons:
Unlocked bootloader means custom ROMs
Always up to date software
Fast smooth UI with no carrier or OEM crap on it. I'll load my own crap thank you very much.
This phone will be useable long after SE ditches support for the Arc and relegates it to the scrap heap.
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I don't think you will regret it.. the general attitude I see, and share, is that once you own a Nexus device you really don't want to own anything else. I came from an Epic 4G for example, so the hardware between that and my Nexus S 4G are literally identical. However, the Nexus S runs circles around the Epic which is crippled with the TouchWiz framework.
You really just can't beat AOSP the way Google intended.

[SGS 3] Discuss everything SGS 3 related here[Pictures,Specs N benchmark in thread]

Galaxy s3 is out!
Discuss everything sg3 related in this thread.
Info:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/03/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-preview-hands-on/
Performance:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5810/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-performance-preview
Specs:
http://goo.gl/F7j9p
Code:
Dimensions: 136.6 x 70.6 x 8.6mm
Wight: 133 grams
Display: 4.8-inch HD Super AMOLED (1280×720) ; Pentile (no Plus);
Processor: Exynos 4 Quad @ 1.4Ghz for HSPA version
Rear Camera: 8MP Autofocus, Flash, Zero Lag Shutter BSI Image sensor
Front Camera: 1.9 MP HD, Flash, Zero Lag Shutter
Video: Full HD 1080p Recording and Playback
Storage: 16GB/32GB/64GB
Battery: 2,100mAh
Connectivity: GPS with GLONASS
Networking: 802.11n Wi-Fi, NFC, Bluetooth 4
Storage: Available in 16/32/64GB and supports microSD expansion
Other: 21Mbps HSPA, LTE supported and Micro SIM
Operating System: Android 4.0.4
GALAXY SIII UNPACKED:
Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W33NPDutOcw
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43qbwoHyCos
Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnNkZyX7P7s
Part 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZXpZELOWTY
Part 5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bs62tfQs9SE
Talk about first impressions:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gu8t4ahRtrg&feature=uploademail
SGS3 vs One X vs Galaxy Nexus vs SGS2:
http://goo.gl/F6ksQ
SGS3 Vs One X (more info):
http://goo.gl/A1l59

No fights, like HTC is better than Samsung.. You can for instance, discuss One X vs Sgs3, but stay on-topic and don't end up in a fight.
This thread will be watched

I personally think it looks great. The small little features like wireless charging, a buzz if missed calls sound genius. Most people are overlooking these and looking straight at the stats. It's a great phone.
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great features and specs, but i think it is totally hideous. It got killed by the home button being odly shaped and the corners start to round before the top of the screen. Just my opinion though, its stilla nice phone

I like the Smart Stay, Android 4.0.4 and ICS-y TouchWiz (now we know why SGS2 get Gingerbread-y TouchWiz).

It isn't near as bad as many people are making it seem. It's just because of how big of a deal Samsung made it that makes it more of a let down. If this was just announced normally at an event like MWC then people wouldn't be having that big of an issue. It's just how it got over hyped with Samsung sending it out to be tested in secret boxes, no leaks for anything at all, it's own big press conference, etc. It was sickening reading in the One X section with all their biased opinions on a phone they've never even seen or tried first person. Give it a chance.

Features look neat, design is terrible.
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Features look neat, design is terrible.
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Really, nice specs but it's hideous.

I gotta admit, It's a bit of a letdown. It looks a bit goofy but I have the feeling that a proper first hand hands on will turn my opinion around again, they are going for function over form with this one I guess. Also It has a pentile screen but seeing from videos and hearing description of reviewers is not enough to judge this category. Overall, I think the hate from many place will die down once it is released just like iPhone 4S, people are shouting, mocking, and taunting because it's only an iteration but suddenly no one is hating it anymore.

Specs great
Design Disappointing
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furt890 said:
I gotta admit, It's a bit of a letdown. It looks a bit goofy but I have the feeling that a proper first hand hands on will turn my opinion around again, they are going for function over form with this one I guess. Also It has a pentile screen but seeing from videos and hearing description of reviewers is not enough to judge this category. Overall, I think the hate from many place will die down once it is released just like iPhone 4S, people are shouting, mocking, and taunting because it's only an iteration but suddenly no one is hating it anymore.
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That's because no-one cares for the iPhone. They get what Apple gives them. Period. Android users do have a choice and over-hyped products that look like something blue and ugly crawled from the sea, made sex with a pebble and then gave birth to this thing, rarely stand a chance. It will still sell but won't be the success S2 was.
I really thought Samsung would put something nice on the table this time. Now I know why they didn't show it on MWC. Side by side with the HOX it would be a media disaster for them.
And all the fun we have with it at the HOX forum, is because the Samsung fanboys who never owned a HOX were saying for the past month "S3 will blow it out of the water" and now we saw what they meant. Noone wants to be in the same ocean with something as ugly as this thing. In a year and a half *maybe* there will be some apps that will run slightly better on the S3, but it will still be as ugly as it is today with the same ugly pentile screen.
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Cant go wrong with sammy.
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Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W33NPDutOcw
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43qbwoHyCos
Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnNkZyX7P7s
Part 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZXpZELOWTY
Part 5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bs62tfQs9SE
The New Samsung GALAXY SIII A GALAXY Unpacked 2012 Video LiveStream
Enjoy

Galaxy S III vs. HTC One X
I wanna take this time to give a fair comparison of the Galaxy S III to HTC's flagship One X. Let me start by saying I am not a fanboy for any brand. I like any device that works, and works well. I choose my devices based on build quality, specs, and features. Software is never a dealbreaker for me, as I usually prefer to load custom ROM's (CM/AOSP mostly). That said, I must say I am quite impressed with the Galaxy S III so far.
In my own honest opinion (and without starting any fights), I felt like the original Galaxy S and even the GS2 were way overhyped. Yes, I agree that they are good devices, but I feel like they didn't really scream out "next gen" when they launched. With the specs on paper and even in real world benchmarks, the first 2 generations only just gave their Nexus counterparts a run for their money. At first glance, it looks like the GS3 is finally going to push the bar to the next level. Of course, HTC also has it's high-end contenders, and this time around it happens to be the One X.
Now, I am in the market for a new phone, and I was highly considering the One X. With all the hype leading up to the GS3, I thought about the previous two generations, and prematurely decided the third gen would end up like the first two. Well, I stand corrected. I could easily see myself buying a GS3, but I am still undecided. On one hand, I have always loved HTC's build quality, and the One X's features definitely fits my requirements. But on the other hand, the Galaxy S III has a few things HTC missed.
When it comes to raw horsepower, both devices are definitely packing a lot of power, so that leaves other things to consider. While I have yet to actually handle each phone in my own hands, my first impression about build quality would go to HTC's polycarbonate unibody design. I always prefer a body not made of plastic, but then again, the Gorilla Glass 2 on Samsung's flagship does give it an upper hand. So all in all, it's still a tie.
When it comes to the camera, HTC definitely wins here. Sure, both devices are 8MP, but as a photographer, I know that the lens makes all the difference. The HTC One X has a beautiful wide angle lens with f/2.0, and from what I've read, Samsung put more effort into the software, leaving it with just an average lens at best. HTC also spent a lot time perfecting their camera software, so they get bonus points for paying attention to all the small details.
Two other important factors for me are the ability to remove the battery and add an external microSD. Unfortunately, this is where HTC made their mistakes, and Samsung was right there to make it right. These are actually two of the biggest things that are giving me second thoughts about buying the One X, and opting for the GS3 instead.
But then I start thinking about the screen. Quality is more important to me than size, and while Samsung's may be a tenth of an inch bigger, it appears that HTC's Super IPS LCD2 wins here. Not to say Samsung's screen isn't good, but I was a bit surprised to see they forgot the Plus part of their HD Super AMOLED. Maybe they did this to leave some room for improvement when another variant of the GS3 comes out in the next 3-4 months. Who knows...
Other than a few other minor differences that could go either way, one final important feature is the battery itself. We all know smartphones are power hungry, so it goes without saying that Samsung's removable 2100mAh gives it an upper edge. Hopefully, it's enough to keep the phone charged for at least a couple of days. HTC's 1800mAh may also last a couple days, partially thanks to the Tegra 3's fifth power-saving core. But when it comes right down to it, 2100mAh simply sounds better. And did I mention it's removable?
This leaves me stuck with a hard decision to make. I'm sure I'll be happy either way, but in both cases, there will be some sacrifices to make, yet there will always be the satisfaction of having a powerful device nonetheless. You win some, you lose some.
I'm also considering a new tablet as well, so if only the Asus Padfone would come out. That would make this decision even harder!

I wish I had enough money to buy both

Love it
Gonna buy it !
Thats all i have to say!!
Best regards !

Awesome specs, design ain't so good. But for christ sake, what a hell of a specs.
I'd give my someone's left nut to have it

Presterin said:
mcord11758 said:
Features look neat, design is terrible.
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+1
Really, nice specs but it's hideous.
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+2!
Had the original SGS and was originally holding out for the SGS3, and opted to go the HOX when it came out given the specs and couldn't be bothered waiting for the SGS3, and timing with my contract coming up for renewal.
S-Voice - Interested there's finally competition to Siri, but something I wouldn't use anyway.
Wireless Charging - Slow and a novelty.
Vibrate when pick up phone for notifications - Very neat, but if I'm picking up my phone, 9/10 I'll be looking at it anyway
Eye-focus thing - Very neat, only big feature I would quite like.
Now so glad I didn't wait around for it.

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Last work of my Design Factory :
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Perfect for your screenshots on this beauty
Happy theming !

I guess all those leaked fake sgs 3 pics raised my hopes too high
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GS3 vs One X - Can you handle the Truth?

The most beautiful minimalist phone ever produced imho, Kudos to Samsung.
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Superior R&D
Superior Audio Codec
- Wolfson Micro WM1811
Superior Video Codec
- "The SGS3 is using among the best encode parameters I've seen on a smartphone to date - 17 Mbps H.264 high profile with CABAC. - Anandtech
Superior Amoled Screen
- While text all look the same at above 300PPI [unless you view your screen with a microscope at 200X] in Multimedia Samoled is King.
Superior CPU and GPU
Infinitely better Eye Tracking! Removable Battery and SD Card Slot...er wait lol
No Build Quality Issues
No Chipping
No Flex Issues
No Things rattling inside phone [seems to be "normal"]
No Screen Flickering
No Stuttering Videos
No Locked Bootloaders EVER, [HTC, don't blame AT&T]
No "First unit: Flash lens was missing. Returned for a replacement. - rpritch" wth
No "I struggled to buy a defect-less One X unit"
Superior Software & Features... not beats
Touch Wiz vs Sense
Touchwiz was one of the first if not the first to implement hardware acceleration and is one of the smoothest most resource friendly launchers. Back with gingerbread, touchwiz browser was pure butter....one of the smoothest i've ever used and definitely still one of the smoothest i've used. It's also battery efficient etc....
Sense on the otherhand is a resource hog, not very battery friendly, and mostly just looks good. Touchwiz is ugly, but there's a huge dev community for the galaxy phones so getting rid of it and flashing AOSP or anything was super simple.
As for user friendly, touchwiz is probably one of the simplest to use. Also looks kinda like iOS buttons which might help a bit but w/e. In terms of out of the box performance, samsung software > HTC software
- PewPewBangBang One X Owner
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- Anandtech Bench -
What surprises me in these benchmarks is how close the GS2 performs to the One X. Disappointing on One X' part if you ask me.
As we showed in our SGS3 performance preview, the handset is, as Samsung described it, capable of posting "superlative" benchmark numbers with its 1.4 GHz Exynos 4 Quad SoC. It goes without saying that even with TouchWiz running atop Android 4.0.4, the SGS3 is butter smooth, everywhere. - Anandtech
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June can't come soon enough!

boodies said:
No Build Quality Issues
No Chipping
No Flex Issues
No Things rattling inside phone
No Screen Flickering
No Stuttering Videos
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The One X has been in available around the world for a month now, and none of those are mass reported problems. Since the SIII is not released yet or even reviewed, I can't see how you think SIII will be problem free.
I like the screen on the One X over my Note (same amoled as SIII), the colour are more accurate and its much brighter in direct sunlight. As for CPU/GPU, both are more than powerful enough to make no difference for day to day use.
Overall, apart from removable battery and micro sd card, SIII and One X are too very close to call. I think both phone will do well over the next few months. The SIII is more suited to the power users, but One X have the WOW factor the SIII lacks, which will do will with general public who don't really care about removable battery or expendable storage.

Bigmille said:
Since the SIII is not released yet or even reviewed, I can't see how you think SIII will be problem free.
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No Build Quality Issues
No Chipping - Same Material used in Previous Galaxy
No Flex Issues - Same Material used in Previous Galaxy
No Things rattling inside phone - Never Happened and I trust Sammy R&D
No Screen Flickering - Super Amoled HD = GS2 had no issues
No Stuttering Videos - Proven Exynos CPU and Video Player Both made in-house by Samsung for superior cooperation.
There, happy? And yes I'd like both do to well and push Android further but this is a nerd tech phone forum, why not have some fun ^_^

Threads like this remind me a little bit about Top Gear, where they say a car can't be cool if you have to explain WHY it's cool.
With the one x, you can just show it to someone, and they will be "wow, that's cool". With the SGS3, they will think it looks ugly/bland but may be won over after you spend 5 mins telling/showing them why it's cool.
And yes, phones are all about being cool
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boodies said:
No Build Quality Issues
No Chipping - Same Material used in Previous Galaxy
No Flex Issues - Same Material used in Previous Galaxy
No Things rattling inside phone - Never Happened and I trust Sammy R&D
No Screen Flickering - Super Amoled HD = GS2 had no issues
No Stuttering Videos - Super Amoled HD = GS2 had no issues
There, happy? And yes I'd like both do to well and push Android further but this is a nerd tech phone forum, why not have some fun ^_^
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The htc one x is a pos.
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diehard2222 said:
The htc one x is a pos.
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It's not a POS that's for sure. But there are some real issues and I don't think people should ignore them. Lets keep things a little more pro brother lol.

The rattling sound that people complain about is when they press a button and it vibrates. They think the sound of the vibration is a rattle
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*Closes eyes and shakes head* -Noooo! Now you're ruining my world! I CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!

boodies said:
The most beautiful minimalist phone ever produced imho, Kudos to Samsung.
Superior R&D
Superior Audio Codec
- Wolfson Micro WM1811
Superior Video Codec
- "The SGS3 is using among the best encode parameters I've seen on a smartphone to date - 17 Mbps H.264 high profile with CABAC. - Anandtech
Superior Amoled Screen
- While text all look the same at above 300PPI [unless you view your screen with a microscope at 200X] in Multimedia Samoled is King.
Superior CPU and GPU
Infinitely better Eye Tracking! Removable Battery and SD Card Slot...er wait lol
No Build Quality Issues
No Chipping
No Flex Issues
No Things rattling inside phone [seems to be "normal"]
No Screen Flickering
No Stuttering Videos
No Locked Bootloaders EVER, [HTC, don't blame AT&T]
No "First unit: Flash lens was missing. Returned for a replacement. - rpritch" wth
No "I struggled to buy a defect-less One X unit"
Superior Software & Features... not beats
Touch Wiz vs Sense
- Anandtech Bench -
June can't come soon enough!
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The real question is can *you* handle the truth? The truth that CPU benchmarks are a pile of useless s.it that have nothing to do with real life usage experience? The truth that tegra optimized apps will always run better on the one x and there are no whatever-samsung-called-their-cpu optimized apps and won't be for quite some time? The truth that HOX has more beautiful screen than the pentile SAMOLED? The truth that difference in performance *might* be felt after a year and a half when both these phones will be old news? The truth that that's a year and a half you'll have to live with the downright ugliness of the sg3? The truth that that's a year and a half you'll have to live with the cheapness of the shiny plastic? The truth that that's a year and a half you'll have to live with the inferior screen? The truth that after that year and a half finally passes the only apps that will show any difference will run bad on the sg3 and worse on the HOX because both will be outdated?
Can you?
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If I get a SIII I hope I don't have to see useless threads like this in this forum for the next year.

Thread will be closed i am sure in a while..These threads are not necessary. No need to make yourself feel good bro just because you are getting a new toy. Enjoy your new toy and no need to bash others just because they made another choice..Both phones are great and both have their own good points. Even though most are just gimmicks from the iphone (yes S-Voice just a copy from Siri) and really even though i love the features of the phone it still does not cry out innovating from some parts of it..anyways if i did not had my one x i would be going for the s3 cause i still believe it is a good phone but the issues you are stating about the one x not everyone has it..so best go and do your research again. Plus each time i press the water lockscreen it will probably make me wanna go and have a leak.. and on that note

First & foremost I'm an Android Fan & not brand specific and will go with who ever I believe will give me the best end user experience.
I like the One X, I also think it has a very nice display, I like sense as a UI & the unit feels nice in the hand, play with my sisters one most days even to the point where I even ordered one, which I then cancelled due to the impending SIII launch.
Now the SIII is here I have ordered one, mainly due to the larger replaceable battery, full size sim (I have other network contracts) and Micro SD Support. These three things alone kill the HOX stone dead for me and I would guess quite a number of others who have multiple handsets.
I think seriously looks a very subjective thing, but when fashion fades only style remains. In the most part these things normally end up in some sort of protective casing which renders the looks aspect moot in most cases.
In 18months time, when the you have stopped looking at it aesthetically and just use it as a day to day communication,entertainment and productivity tool, what is really going to matter?
To me it will be.
Ease of use, battery life, reliability, compatibility & decent brightness in daylight.
I'm I really going to care about the differences in terms of Screen Technology's on a day to day basis, I doubt it, its a phone at the end of the day as long as the display is good that's all the really matters personally. Not for the least part there will be something better by then the anyway.
They are both really good High end devices which will hopefully push Android even further in front of a certain fruit company.
Just my 2p

I noticed Wolfson on the your spec list. This is great! Sound quality is a major factor for me, and keeps me on my Galaxy S (AT&T Captivate). With the return of Wolfson, I may be able to upgrade this summer when it comes to AT&T.

tkolev said:
The real question is can *you* handle the truth? The truth that CPU benchmarks are a pile of useless s.it that have nothing to do with real life usage experience? The truth that tegra optimized apps will always run better on the one x and there are no whatever-samsung-called-their-cpu optimized apps and won't be for quite some time? The truth that HOX has more beautiful screen than the pentile SAMOLED? The truth that difference in performance *might* be felt after a year and a half when both these phones will be old news? The truth that that's a year and a half you'll have to live with the downright ugliness of the sg3? The truth that that's a year and a half you'll have to live with the cheapness of the shiny plastic? The truth that that's a year and a half you'll have to live with the inferior screen? The truth that after that year and a half finally passes the only apps that will show any difference will run bad on the sg3 and worse on the HOX because both will be outdated?
Can you?
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Here is my opinion. I think they both will be winner. I'm not saying that to make everybody else happy, its cause its the truth. Here are facts:
The one x is the best looking device without a shadow of a doubt. It looks sexy, the screen is amazing, it is really a great looking device. But unfortunately it has horrible battery life, screen issues, lag and stutter and sense while it looks beautiful is still a heavy skin. ( about the issues if you don't believe me go check the one x forum). Still it has great potential and WILL get lots of dev support so in a couple of months its gonna be a beast!
Now the Galaxy S3, honestly I like the design a lot. It isn't as beautiful as the one x but still , people are saying that it looks awesome in person. Then you got so many pros, exynos 4 quad on board , expandable storage, removable battery all in a device that is thinner than the one x. Anadtech and many others have reported the phone to be buttery smooth as expected. On top of that the phone should be easy to root ( no S-off bull crap required) all the new features Samsung introduced look great. Dev support is gonna be HUGE just like the one x will but with a boot loader easy to unlock. My personal choice is the S3 cause after I was blown away by the S2 , Samsung has won me over as a loyal customer. They both will b great especially when development takes off but I will give the edge to the s3 cause it is a performer!!!

We dont need another SGS3vsHTC whatever thread.
All general chat goes here

SGS3 vs HOX FULL NO BS REVIEW with BOTH HARDWARES

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Bottomline
GS3
Better Photos in regular lighting, and better color reproduction
Better Audio
Better Video
Better Speaker
Better GPU/CPU
Better Battery Life
Better Software
Better Gorilla Glass
Better Screen
+ Removable Batteries
+ SD Card Support
HOX
Better Photos in Low Light
More Instagram like filters...
Better Looks (They say, but this is subjective even in this picture above the GS3 looks much better personally)
More at GSM Arena
EDIT: Made some changes and corrections

I expected as much.
I believe that the key point here is that all of those differences you've listed are marginal in most areas, but having a high quality feeling and good looking phone is very important to me.
Unless those differences were huge (let's face it, they aren't), I'm struggling to look past the One X for myself.
The amount of times I'll pick up my phone and enjoy the feel of it absolutely blow away the zero times I'll care about the camera being 1% better or the phone loading a web page 000.1 second quicker.
Why can't Samsung use some intelligent designers? They really are clueless at this stuff. They've managed to make TouchWiz look even worse as well, despite adding some nice features.

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Better Storage
Removable Battery
Just read it
SGS3 is amazing
It's way way better than the HOX

haters gonna hate, where are everyone now?
GS III is purely awesome

The battery life test here is what is the most interesting. AMOLED screens use up more power than LCDs at bright colours, so it's expectable to see the S3 have only a slight margin over the HOX. The video test is the most interesting one; that's just pure obliteration beyond the 300mAh advantage. Expect the device to have on average a much better screen-on time than even that that if you optimize for the AMOLED screen, Samsung's default skin isn't quite nice in that regard. So much for Nvidia's +1 core.

This thing is proven again and again this year's best goes for samsung !! No more pointless discussion on which is the best.

GS3
So the GS3 won in Performance, Display, Battery Life, Sound Quality, Camera, Memory and most other things, in other words it mopped the floor with the One X, HTC fans are not going to like this,
Something else im impressed by is the Galaxy S2's performance in the benchmarks and Camera, absolutely incredible for a device released over a year ago, Samsung built an absolute masterpiece there.

lonelyw said:
So the GS3 won in Performance, Display, Battery Life, Sound Quality, Camera, Memory and most other things, in other words it mopped the floor with the One X, HTC fans are not going to like this,
Something else im impressed by is the Galaxy S2's performance in the benchmarks and Camera, absolutely incredible for a device released over a year ago, Samsung built an absolute masterpiece there.
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Are you the person that posted that comment? It made me cringe.
Fanboys aloof.

Dtguilds said:
Are you the person that posted that comment? It made me cringe.
Fanboys aloof.
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Lol I was reading that and I thought it's either deja vu or I've read it before
Well colour me impressed Samsung, gonna be hard deciding between the two... still don't like Touchwiz though (tried it on an ICS S2) let's see if the newer version is good enough.

Always loved touchwiz, even tho i have an P990, im sure any software issue can be fixed eventually, im more concerned about the physical issues that it may bring.

LeviathanPT said:
Always loved touchwiz, even tho i have an P990, im sure any software issue can be fixed eventually, im more concerned about the physical issues that it may bring.
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To me the home screen flinging didn't really respond to my touch, as in no matter how fast my finger moves, once I lift it it glides at its own pace. It's not very satisfying. Or maybe it was just my friend's phone that's like that...
About the defects (if that's what you mean) all phones will have some when they launch. I wait a couple months for them to iron things out.

It is extreme subjective. I have hold my buying decision when One X launched and waited for the announcement of SGS3. I still prefer SGS3 to HOX for switchable battery and microsd. They are with the same surface material. Sense UI may be better and I get used to it for years. Just wait for the arrival in my place to buy SGS3.

This is obviously a hot topic in the One X forum also. Here's what I posted there. Keep in mind I'm deciding between the two after a week or so with the SGS3. I also came from a i9100 and have a 3G UK G-Tab 10.1 so I'm no one's fanboi.
Dtguilds said:
Reviewed - So, the Galaxy S 3 IS better, but are you keeping your X?
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BarryH_GEG said:
Hmm, not really. The closing of the article summed it up best...
"Anyway, back to where we started. Two superphones, one Android crown. The HTC One X managed to come to the market first, while the Galaxy S III is a little late, but has plenty to show for it. We're tempted to play it safe and split it equal. The HTC One X: this is what a droid flagship should look like. The Samsung Galaxy S III: that's what a droid flagship should perform like. But that won't be fair to either of them. They didn't get where they are by playing it safe.
It seems obvious that the Samsung Galaxy S III wouldn't have raised as the new standard-setter without a powerful challenger like the One X. There's no consolation prize here, no second-best. A fair fight and a win-win for Android."
Some other things that struck me as relevant...
"The HTC One X is encased in a polycarbonate unibody (Gray or Black), which is matte in appearance and pleasant to the touch. The Samsung Galaxy S III is covered in glossy plastic (with Blue brushed metal look or pure white), which is durable, but not quite as nice to hold. We're not impressed by its looks either.
"On the other hand, Samsung's design allows you to change the battery allowig you to use a spare one to extend battery life or replace an old burnt-out battery with a fresh new one. Oh, and there's a microSD card slot too. Not that HTC couldn't have put a card slot into the One X, they just decided that 32GB should be enough for everyone (and it probably is)."
"Of course, not all of them are deciders. The S-Voice is a direct take on Siri, but it really fails to live up to expectations, while the NFC-based media sharing over S Beam has limited application for now. Pop-up play will rarely be used while Buddy photo share borders on useless."
So what does it come down to? Personal preference.
1) Is a removable battery and SD card slot important? Buy the SGS3.
2) Is design, construction, and feel in the hand important? Buy the One X.
3) Is low light picture and video important? Buy the One X.
4) Are more detailed pictures in bright light important? Buy the SGS3.
5) Do you like the vivid (I'm being kind) colors of AMOLED? Buy the SGS3.
6) Do you like a brighter, non-PenTile display, with more accurate color and better detailing? Buy the One X.
7) Want a better browsing experience and more audio and video codec support? Buy the SGS3.
8) Are you an avid gamer that'll be pushing the CPU and GPU regularly? Buy the SGS3.
9) Do you like TouchWiz? Buy the SGS3.
10) Do you like Sense? Buy the One X.
11) Do you listen to lossless audio over $300+ headphones or a home system that cost several thousand dollars? Pick the SGS3.
There's other differences that may matter to people but those are the main ones. I knew the SGS3 would benchmark better than the One X when I bought it. The reality is, as it stands today, the power of Teg3, S4, and Exynos-Quad are wasted because the OS and apps aren't able to tap their power. Other than bragging rights you'd be hard pressed to tell them apart performance wise; they'll "feel" the same.
My views on the main features...
1) I like the LCD2 display on the One X. After using AMOLED for a year the realistic colors, the lighter look because black backgrounds aren't used to save battery, and increased display brightness are all nice for a change.
2) The One X camera h/w is better than the SGS3's. It shows in low light settings. I'm hoping s/w tuning in future updates makes it a better all-around performer. I wouldn't ditch the One X over the camera as they don't strike me as that dramatically different from each other.
3) Audiophiles probably never considered the One X once it was announced that the SGS3 has a Wolfson DAC. An audiophile would cut off their arm before listening to compressed formats like MP3's or on anything less than high grade equipment. That makes 95% of us “non-audiophiles.” And a real audiophile would question the use of something like a smartphone as an audio output device anyway.
4) Did anyone who bought the One X not know in advance it had fixed storage and a non-replaceable battery? I'd like those features; I think anyone would. But I really like the design of the One X and if it had to look like the SGS3 in order to have them I'd pass.
5) Other than the graphics issues which are big, the One X's launch has been pretty typical from a QC perspective. I'll bet anyone here the SGS3 launch looks the same (sans graphics issues) and that display consistency will be one of the biggest *****es on their forum. The SGS2 and GN launches were far from great.
So, the short answer to OP's question, nothing in that review has changed my opinion of the One X. Look at it this way, the SGS2 crushed the Sensation. In less than a year HTC launched a phone that made GSMArena consider splitting the win. That alone is pretty impressive. Of course, YMMV and I clearly don’t expect everyone to agree with some of my comments.
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I stopped posting on the one x section, after they started calling me a troll. I don't know what exactly a troll is but I posted on 3 threads with with the words "galaxy" on the title. Im not going there to start a new thread or whatever and never have. Now that the dust has settled, lets be the bigger man.

In my own opinion these guys don't realize just how many of us have mp3 collections we want to pack on our phones. Not having the ability to get my mp3s on board makes the htc piece a non starter all by itself unless it can offset this by having an apk that makes naked supermodels spill out its guts on command.

Dtguilds said:
I expected as much.
I believe that the key point here is that all of those differences you've listed are marginal in most areas, but having a high quality feeling and good looking phone is very important to me.
Unless those differences were huge (let's face it, they aren't), I'm struggling to look past the One X for myself.
The amount of times I'll pick up my phone and enjoy the feel of it absolutely blow away the zero times I'll care about the camera being 1% better or the phone loading a web page 000.1 second quicker.
Why can't Samsung use some intelligent designers? They really are clueless at this stuff. They've managed to make TouchWiz look even worse as well, despite adding some nice features.
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differences were not huge you say?
have you seen the video comparisons?htc's looked pale as compared to sgs3's.
and the most important thing that everyone waited and wanted to know was the battery life.
"here's a curious little detail about what people are saying that amoleds use more power when displaying whites compared to other screen displays.
"The two flagships were less convincing in the browser endurance test. The HTC One X shut down just 4 hours and 18 minutes into the test and the Galaxy S III went on for 5 hours and 17 minutes. We were actually rather surprised that the S III came out on top here, knowing how badly the predominantly white web pages treat AMOLEDs.""
"Audio quality
The Samsung I9300 Galaxy s III turned out to be one of the most talented musicians around and managed to edge out the One X in the audio output quality test."
not huge difference my ...

This seems to be nearly flawless victory or smackdown (for the SIII, except screen and body imo), the photo sensor even trump the iPhone 4S. Glad to see the the audio quality is decent, that is a big factor for me.
I still don't understand Samsung decision to not use 5x5 icon rows in the home screen.

can someone explain to me why the GS3 has 4+ hour difference in movie playback? That is freakin amazing!

boodies said:
can someone explain to me why the GS3 has 4+ hour difference in movie playback? That is freakin amazing!
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the 300mah difference can't account for those 4+ hours for movie playback. lols
let those who can only attack with "ugly design" explain why the hell that is.

boodies said:
can someone explain to me why the GS3 has 4+ hour difference in movie playback? That is freakin amazing!
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Might be the amoled blacks and hardware acceleration for all codecs
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