Anyone else here feel like the Sony X10 just has too many shortcomings?
I know this phone could have some serious potential once it's rooted but what new phone won't? All new phones will have the same specs or higher, and probably won't come with all the issues Sony is infamous for.....
I'm seriously considering selling my X10 before I even open the box (still waiting on shipping) and picking up the HTC Incredible, I know the Incredible can be purchased for roughly $480US, and being an HTC I'm sure root will come fast, and in my opinion this is a much nicer phone then the X10. The only reason I was interested in an X10 was because of the screen size, and chipset, but a lot of phones will have these same specs from here on out.....
Anyone else thinking they may dump their X10 soon?
If I would lose or break my X10, I would immediately buy another one. I don’t like HTC phones, but a part of that, I’m really satisfied of my X10. My only big complaint is the poor battery life.
Blowtoke said:
Anyone else here feel like the Sony X10 just has too many shortcomings?
I know this phone could have some serious potential once it's rooted but what new phone won't? All new phones will have the same specs or higher, and probably won't come with all the issues Sony is infamous for.....
I'm seriously considering selling my X10 before I even open the box (still waiting on shipping) and picking up the HTC Incredible, I know the Incredible can be purchased for roughly $480US, and being an HTC I'm sure root will come fast, and in my opinion this is a much nicer phone then the X10. The only reason I was interested in an X10 was because of the screen size, and chipset, but a lot of phones will have these same specs from here on out.....
Anyone else thinking they may dump their X10 soon?
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Yeap I am having these thoughts over and over, and I tried expressing my feedback and I have been attacked verbally constantly like if pointing out issues in this phone was a crime.
I am pretty sure I will not finish May with this phone but I did try my best to be positive about it!
willing to swap my brand new x10 unbranded and unlocked for the htc desire
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Yeap I am having these thoughts over and over, and I tried expressing my feedback and I have been attacked verbally constantly like if pointing out issues in this phone was a crime.
I am pretty sure I will not finish May with this phone but I did try my best to be positive about it!
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That's because you're trolling.
So i have had HTCs in the past and i have one major complaint about it. it's nice to hold, touch, use but it's not designed for extended use. all the HTCs i have had have become very hot on extended use, to the point that they shut down. this starts with the DASH, Diamond, and even the Nexus one.
i currently have the x10 and i use it like crazy, while driving (by attaching it to the car charger) and because of the excess space between the battery and back cover the phone does not shut off.
that's one thing.
other than that, i just feel that rooting is not that important if you can do what you want to do on the phone as it is. the only thing i miss is the WiFi Tether. but then again, i think the x10 is amazing to browse the net, i tend to not pick up my laptop at home.
i like the shape, the edges and the feel of the x10.
personally the only thing that seems to be a bit of a let down is the battery. with everything (gmail sync, 3G, auto brightness, time scape with sync) on, excluding the GPS, WiFi and Bluetooth i get about 16 hours of use, that includes chatting on GTalk, checking mail, listening to music, playing on the phone, facebook, etc. which is not bad
BUT it's less than what my GFs nexus one gives, that phone lasts a day and a half, but she has less usage too.
I have ordered the HTC HD2, will give that a shot and update this but i don't think i am going to let go of the x10.
If this is not what you wanted I'd say get something else. Go where your heart went.
I have one for almost 2 weeks now and the only 2 things that sticked out are the battery life (or the lack of ) and SE released it with Android 1.6. MT is not really a big issue with me. Other than that I haven't had any issue with it. I have had an X1 for a few days and this is a big step ahead of the X1 by a wide margin.
I appreciate everyones input as I'm still on the fence as to what to do with my X10 (if it ever gets here!!!).......
I see most of you are generally happy with your X10, but would you rather have an X10 or an HTC Incredible?
Blowtoke said:
I appreciate everyones input as I'm still on the fence as to what to do with my X10 (if it ever gets here!!!).......
I see most of you are generally happy with your X10, but would you rather have an X10 or an HTC Incredible?
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I had an HTC Desire and now own a X10 both have their good and bad points, but the X10 is staying as my phone, the better camera and the 4" screen makes this a much better phone, and once 2.1 comes out it's going to take some beating.
Blowtoke said:
I appreciate everyones input as I'm still on the fence as to what to do with my X10 (if it ever gets here!!!).......
I see most of you are generally happy with your X10, but would you rather have an X10 or an HTC Incredible?
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If I wanted an HTC Incredible/Desire I would have bought one. They're pretty much the same, and the X10 will get Android 2.1 later this year. The big negative with the HTC is the screen, you can't see it in the daylight/sun per Engadget:
Another somewhat major issue that we struggled with on the Incredible (just as we did on the Nexus One) was the awful screen visibility in bright daylight. We had numerous occasions where we simply could not answer a call or take a picture due to the AMOLED display's poor showing outdoors. In overcast settings (such as the one above) it was usually bearable, and If you crank the brightness all the way up on sunnier days you can get some visibility, though once you're outside and can't see the display, that's a bit of a challenge. In all honesty, we love certain aspects of these screens, but we're perplexed as to why HTC continues to use this same display when it's clear the daylight performance is hamstrung.
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Plus the styling of the phones is a big difference for me, I like the X10's more, especially the back.
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If I wanted an HTC Incredible/Desire I would have bought one. They're pretty much the same, and the X10 will get Android 2.1 later this year. The big negative with the HTC is the screen, you can't see it in the daylight/sun per Engadget:
Plus the styling of the phones is a big difference for me, I like the X10's more, especially the back.
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You raise a good point, and with summer here (I'll be outside more) that could definitely be an issue for me.
I must admit I'm starting to think keeping my X10 might be the way to go, especially with Paul on board now for the rooting! It's bound to happen soon!
isn't the incredible just a poshed-up version of the desire? i think the only difference is the support for flash, and doesn't this just come with an update to 2.2?
There are practical reasons to not getting the x10, to name a few:
- the screen supports primitive 65K colours at best, you can be sure that everything on that phone is looking as best as it can right now. it wont ever look much better.
- the screen is TFT standard, ie. bad sunlight legibility, bad contrast ratio among other things
- 384 MB of RAM as opposed to 512 MB at the LEAST from rivals, why is this important? if you want to do more, you need more resources. i guess someone can confirm the RAM usage on an average x10? expect it to go even higher once 2.1 is on there and man with 2.2 that thing is gonna be SLOW to run several apps at once (weren't a lot of people b*tching about not being able to multi-task?)
- SD card maxes at 16 gb, with a screen that big, you want to do stuff, stuff that will require space. rivals are at 32 gb by the way.
every other issue that i hear about this phone is strictly software and you should never reject a phone for software alone. software can be created, updated and becomes obsolete, the hardware that you're holding is there to stay much longer.
inferior hardware is way more than enough reason to pass up an offer on the phone.
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There are practical reasons to not getting the x10, to name a few:
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Your post is nonsense and drivel, classic trolling from someone who knows little about the actual phone.
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- the screen supports primitive 65K colours at best, you can be sure that everything on that phone is looking as best as it can right now. it wont ever look much better.
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The screen supports 16m colors, Android 1.6 does not. It doesn't matter though because even with 65k colors the Xperia has the best looking screen of any one out at the moment, and when it gets the 2.1 upgrade it will have 16m, so basically your entire statement from start to finish was false.
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- the screen is TFT standard, ie. bad sunlight legibility, bad contrast ratio among other things
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This shows how clueless you are. You know what gives terrible sunlight legibility? AMOLED screens that HTC has, the X10 has the best sunlight legibility of any screen out there, don't take my word for it read ANY review genius. LCD screens have always been brighter then anything else.
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- 384 MB of RAM as opposed to 512 MB at the LEAST from rivals, why is this important? if you want to do more, you need more resources. i guess someone can confirm the RAM usage on an average x10? expect it to go even higher once 2.1 is on there and man with 2.2 that thing is gonna be SLOW to run several apps at once (weren't a lot of people b*tching about not being able to multi-task?)
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It would be nice if that mattered in actual user experience.
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- SD card maxes at 16 gb, with a screen that big, you want to do stuff, stuff that will require space. rivals are at 32 gb by the way.
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SE only lists what is available at launch on the spec sheet, the X10 supports the 32gb SD card and it was confirmed it would prior to launch.
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every other issue that i hear about this phone is strictly software and you should never reject a phone for software alone. software can be created, updated and becomes obsolete, the hardware that you're holding is there to stay much longer.
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The hardware is absolutely top of the line on the X10.
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inferior hardware is way more than enough reason to pass up an offer on the phone.
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Your post was 90% made up, and you seem to think the X10 has inferior hardware, where did you get that absurd notion?
Can you just sell it and stop bugging us? Why ask anonymous people on a message board what you should do with your phone? Its annoying and lame.
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There are practical reasons to not getting the x10, to name a few:
- the screen supports primitive 65K colours at best, you can be sure that everything on that phone is looking as best as it can right now. it wont ever look much better.
- the screen is TFT standard, ie. bad sunlight legibility, bad contrast ratio among other things
- 384 MB of RAM as opposed to 512 MB at the LEAST from rivals, why is this important? if you want to do more, you need more resources. i guess someone can confirm the RAM usage on an average x10? expect it to go even higher once 2.1 is on there and man with 2.2 that thing is gonna be SLOW to run several apps at once (weren't a lot of people b*tching about not being able to multi-task?)
- SD card maxes at 16 gb, with a screen that big, you want to do stuff, stuff that will require space. rivals are at 32 gb by the way.
every other issue that i hear about this phone is strictly software and you should never reject a phone for software alone. software can be created, updated and becomes obsolete, the hardware that you're holding is there to stay much longer.
inferior hardware is way more than enough reason to pass up an offer on the phone.
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kr3w1337 don't troll and at least do your homework before posting.
Bialynia said:
Your post is nonsense and drivel, classic trolling from someone who knows little about the actual phone.
The screen supports 16m colors, Android 1.6 does not. It doesn't matter though because even with 65k colors the Xperia has the best looking screen of any one out at the moment, and when it gets the 2.1 upgrade it will have 16m, so basically your entire statement from start to finish was false.
This shows how clueless you are. You know what gives terrible sunlight legibility? AMOLED screens that HTC has, the X10 has the best sunlight legibility of any screen out there, don't take my word for it read ANY review genius. LCD screens have always been brighter then anything else.
It would be nice if that mattered in actual user experience.
SE only lists what is available at launch on the spec sheet, the X10 supports the 32gb SD card and it was confirmed it would prior to launch.
The hardware is absolutely top of the line on the X10.
Your post was 90% made up, and you seem to think the X10 has inferior hardware, where did you get that absurd notion?
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Brilliant reply Bialynia.
I can confirm about the screen brightness BTW, I have an x10 and my wife to be has the Desire. I came close to switching to the Desire but it's just so... boring. It's just another HTC phone with Sense UI (DO NOT WANT).
Yes indoors the Desire is brighter (though now to the extent I want to swap my phone_ but have any sort of exterior light on the screen and your borked, not the case with the x10.
forzanerazzurri said:
Can you just sell it and stop bugging us? Why ask anonymous people on a message board what you should do with your phone? Its annoying and lame.
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forzanerazzurri, this is part of the reason these forums are here.....for discussion, you don't like it, don't read it. Not sure how I'm bugging people????
I'm asking current owners of the X10 if they are happy with their X10 because I don't have mine yet, and after reading a lot of the posts here in this forum (including one of yours!) I wasn't sure if I would be keeping the phone or not.
If you don't have something constructive to say in this topic don't bother reading it......
Well, i watched movies for 3 hours last weeend.
Outside.
That screen is impressive.
And even with 65k colors supported now, i didn't miss anything.
Oh, i'm wondering now, if 65k colors are enough to watch re-encoded from divx to mp4 movies, why those phones need 16mil colors?
What is pissing me off is that i don't know if is possible to have a wallpaper for each of the three virtual screens
kr3w1337 said:
There are practical reasons to not getting the x10, to name a few:
- the screen supports primitive 65K colours at best, you can be sure that everything on that phone is looking as best as it can right now. it wont ever look much better.
- the screen is TFT standard, ie. bad sunlight legibility, bad contrast ratio among other things
- 384 MB of RAM as opposed to 512 MB at the LEAST from rivals, why is this important? if you want to do more, you need more resources. i guess someone can confirm the RAM usage on an average x10? expect it to go even higher once 2.1 is on there and man with 2.2 that thing is gonna be SLOW to run several apps at once (weren't a lot of people b*tching about not being able to multi-task?)
- SD card maxes at 16 gb, with a screen that big, you want to do stuff, stuff that will require space. rivals are at 32 gb by the way.
every other issue that i hear about this phone is strictly software and you should never reject a phone for software alone. software can be created, updated and becomes obsolete, the hardware that you're holding is there to stay much longer.
inferior hardware is way more than enough reason to pass up an offer on the phone.
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Well, i watched movies for 3 hours last weeend.
Outside.
That screen is impressive.
And even with 65k colors supported now, i didn't miss anything.
Oh, i'm wondering now, if 65k colors are enough to watch re-encoded from divx to mp4 movies, why those phones need 16mil colors?
What is pissing me off is that i don't know if is possible to have a wallpaper for each of the three virtual screens
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65k is enough for anything, once you get to a certain point as far color density or resolution the numbers don't mean much of anything. Nokia always had the better specs on screens but if you compared the screens to that of an SE phone the SE's always had better colors, saturation, brightness etc. despite the better Nokia numbers. Here you have a Sony Ericsson C902 (262144 colors) and Nokia 6300 (16777216 colors)
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Hey guys,
I'm not that pretty sure anymore about the phone.
My main PRO is the big screen and Android.
The main CON is: Samsung...
My friends, who already owned a Samsung warned me.
One of them said:"I'll give you 3 month till you send it back, because it's not working anymore."
The missing camera LED, notification LED and the update policy of Samsung are reinforcing my concerns.
I'm currently not sure about buying one, so could you give me your reasons for choosing the Galaxy S over a HTC Desire/Legend or an iPhone?
iPhone - don't like the platform and Apple condescending BS.
Desire - have one currently, excellent phone, reasoning for trying the Galaxy S - better graphics prowess (I like gaming), TV Out & DLNA, more storage space for app installation, WiFi tether, DivX, the screen - both better display characteristics and multitouch, better audio SQ.
EDIT: Oh, and the Desire's bluetooth implementation is anoying with peripherals like keyboards/controllers/heart rate monitors.
You dont need to go for htc or apple. There's the new motorola coming out that also has Arm cpu
http://www.slashgear.com/motorola-xt720-hands-on-video-0788530/
I'm loving the cam on it.. and build quality.. but not super amoled but apparently they have great screens (motorola droids)
i still want the galaxy but build quality is worrying..
edit: just doesn't make sense why accessing the app drawer on the motorola is so sluggish lol... seriously it's just icons... I'm pretty sure it's Android's fault not the phone.
edit 2: btw you just worried me as well Knobibrot LOL with your story. though I've heard many but now I'm really thinking about it since I'll be traveling for a long time, I need a lasting phone that does 720p. and Motorola seems like it has strong build quality and a great camera. And it's still Android so hmm..
edit 3: I don't care about watching movies, I don't watch movies on cell phones. LOL count me in Knobibrot, why should we buy it ? haha Galaxy is a great phone but I am not sure all because of build quality and how long it may last.. since already many errors are being reported..
edit 4: arg it doesn't have wireless n the motorola and it's not amoled.
Still have my doubts too and am questioning the logic behind leaving out all leds. It does appear to be a long running design choice with Samsung phones from what I've read.
I'm ditching my HD2 due to unreliability issues, so the Galaxy does seem a bit of a gamble when the Desire has so many great reviews. It's that damn screen on the G that keeps pulling me back tho!
this "samsung-bashing" is really getting boring...
its always the manufacturers fault if the user is too stupid, right ?
would you buy a car without ever testdriving it ? no you wouldn't even if the guy who wants to sell it to you says "its the greatest thing since sliced bread and it does 200 mph" !
but with phones it's seemingly totally different... the manufacturer tells you something and you do believe the **** out of it.. instead of just taking the goddamn device in your hand and use the features you need and check if it is ok for you.
yeah i know, its so much harder to get a phone into your hand than having a test-drive, right ?
oh, and when you save all your money for a phone its the best thing to confide in the manufacturers claims and blindly buy it without testing
either be a man and buy something without testing, because you have the money and don't care if its **** (its still YOUR DECISION to spend the money on something you never used before) or be "smart" and test the device, if the money does matter so much for you...
i owned the i8510 and the i8910 samsung devices and they were both top of the line... i got no complains
and here the reasons for buying the i9000:
big super amoled screen
best videoplayer on a device so far (mkv, avi/divx support out of the box)
720p @ 30 fps so far (not "up to 30 fps" like the iphone 4 )
android os
nice samsung customization with touchwiz
Simple answer from me.....
If I don't like, then by law under the Distance Selling Regulations I can send it back and obtain a full refund inc postage.
Well the whole reason with pre-ordering without testing for me is that manufacturers these days don't seem too good (or perhaps intentionally) at judging demand, so if I'm not getting one in the first batch then I could end up waiting months. But that's why I've been checking every review and user opinion, so at least I've got an idea.
just watch steven jobs tout his iphone ... don't you think he knows that the iphone is crap in some regards ? yet he sells it to "stupid" folks as best thing since sliced bread ... why would he tell you something he knows the iphone is bad in ? his job is to sell phones and not to tell the truth ... same is with the other manufacturers
even without testing every phone i did not have many complains .. some people really need a reality check if they blame the manufacturers for saying their product was great....
Simple answer from me.....
If I don't like, then by law under the Distance Selling Regulations I can send it back and obtain a full refund inc postage.
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Now, you see, in my coutry for example they respect this law only if the contents of the packege is intact.
Practice shows that sallers always say that the packege was unwrapped and the unit shows signs of usage and they decline taking it back. And that means weeks or even months of Consumer Advocate work or a lawsuit.
So your suggestion is out of question for me (and I think other unfortunates) and becasue of that I always wait and read a lot before I buy a thing that I can't test properly.
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Now, you see, in my coutry for example they respect this law only if the contents of the packege is intact.
Practice shows that sallers always say that the packege was unwrapped and the unit shows signs of usage and they decline taking it back. And that means weeks or even months of Consumer Advocate work or a lawsuit.
So your suggestion is out of question for me (and I think other unfortunates) and becasue of that I always wait and read a lot before I buy a thing that I can't test properly.
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Well my heart goes out to you in not having a government strong enough to enforce better consumer laws.
v1rtu4l said:
just watch steven jobs tout his iphone ... don't you think he knows that the iphone is crap in some regards ? yet he sells it to "stupid" folks as best thing since sliced bread ... why would he tell you something he knows the iphone is bad in ? his job is to sell phones and not to tell the truth ... same is with the other manufacturers
even without testing every phone i did not have many complains .. some people really need a reality check if they blame the manufacturers for saying their product was great....
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Like the bearded one, I shall be returning mine under UK distance selling regulations if I'm not entirely happy with it. But I am cautiously optimistic. Samsung is a big company with a lot of customers, it stands to reason they're gonna have some unhappy ones.
This phone is going to be such a big seller (over 1 million pre-orders in Europe), they will have to get it sorted if there are any little niggles, plus if they plan to be taken seriously on Android they do realize they need to change their support and policy towards upgrades. We've already seen them make a clear statement that 2.2 will be supported.
But my main reason for buying it, there's still nothing else out there that comes close in terms of overall capability.
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I've got nothing against Apple, but that did make me chuckle.
Knobibrot said:
I'm currently not sure about buying one, so could you give me your reasons for choosing the Galaxy S over a HTC Desire/Legend or an iPhone?
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The choice between iPhone and the GS is more a choice between android and iOS. I thought about buying the iphone, but then I realized I hated their push notification system (had a lot of bad experiences with it with my iTouch), the lack of widgets, the lousy multitasking (I use ebuddy a lot, and the multitasking implementation of the iphone only allows for push messages with IM's). The iPhone itself is a great device, technically, but the software just doesn't cut it for me.
The choice between the Desire and the GS is a bit more difficult. While the Desire is the nice looking, better built cheaper phone with the great Sense UI (although the touchwiz UI also has some nice things, like the app list and the ability to take screenshots), the Samsung is better in about every other aspect. For example:
-Better, bigger screen with better multi-touch (the Desire has trouble tracking as much as 2 fingers at the same time).
-Better processor AND better graphics processor.
-Better bluetooth and wifi and higher mobile upload speed (2mbps<5.76 mbps)
-Better media player and sound quality with support for Avi, FLAC, ...
-Extra memory, both ROM and general
I'm coming from a desire myself, because I really had trouble playing games on emulators with the bad multi-touch. The GPU also wasn't able to keep up in games like Asphalt.
With the GS already on amazon for 499 euros, I would definitly choose it over the desire, which is around 469 here in Belgium.
v1rtu4l said:
this "samsung-bashing" is really getting boring...
i owned the i8510 and the i8910 samsung devices and they were both top of the line... i got no complains
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I've only had one Samsung phone so far (i900 Omnia I) but in the 2 years that I owned it I never had a serious problem, even though I bought it 2nd hand on eBay. The only few times it crashed was when I installed a new app it didn't like.
The main reasons why I'm interested in this phone are the 4" Super AMOLED screen, 8GB/16GB on board storage plus SD card, 512mb RAM, 2GB ROM, 1GHz processor with 1500 mAh battery suggests good battery life (although reports so far are mixed), confirmed update to Froyo (as per gsmarena) and apparently good video player and sound quality. Also, I had good experiences with the camera of my Omnia so I'm hoping this bodes well for the Galaxy S camera (yes, I'm aware that it doesn't have a flash). I hated TouchWiz on the Omnia and would prefer plain vanilla Android on the GS, but GS TouchWiz looks much less invasive and more practical than Omnia TouchWiz so I think I can live with it.
I'm keeping an eye on the iPhone 4 as well, but I'm put off by the small screen (smaller than previous iPhones), no flash support for the browser (not so much for youtube but so many websites use it) and I'm a bit suspicious about Apple potentially hobbling Google sync functions. Also not looking forward to iAds.
Yeah, the performance of the phone and the screen are the things that are keeping me from waiting for another phone.
Hearing about bad build quality from those that tried it worries me.
But then again I come from an HTC Magic which has bad build quality but nothing happened to it in a year except dust under screen, but on Sammy that won't be a problem.
Reasons ?! i could write many reasons but this is all i have for now
1- Of course the Super Amoled Screen (best screen to date)
2- The screen is BIG!
3- The Hummingbird processor that means i wont have problems watching a movie on my phone and also it'll rock on game
4- Tv-out sulotions so you have:
a- Wired tv-out using S-video cable .
b- DLNA so you can stream your videos/images/music to your TV ,Media Player, PC , Laptop or PS3 wirelessly
5- Huge internal memory so you can throw anything you want in it .If it's not enough just throw in a 32 GB M-SD card
6- Codecs support so it's ready for your vids
These are the reasons i have for now that makes the galaxy s stands out between Desire , Legend and iPhone !
So if i made a comparison between each device the list will grately expand !
I hated TouchWiz on the Omnia and would prefer plain vanilla Android on the GS, but GS TouchWiz looks much less invasive and more practical than Omnia TouchWiz so I think I can live with it.
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I don't know the source any more, but I read somewhere that it's possible to deactivate TouchWiz and use the Vanilla Android instead.
I'll do a search on that!
Thanks for all these great comments.
And informations like the 1 million pre-orders in Europe and Cooki3s' review of the Desire really helps!
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I don't know the source any more, but I read somewhere that it's possible to deactivate TouchWiz and use the Vanilla Android instead.
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Yeah, I think I read that too somewhere. You can deactivate it on the Omnia, so that would make sense. But the GS version looks like I might actually find some of it practical to use, e.g. the Daily Briefing (provided Samsung modify it to allow custom news feeds), unlike the Omnia version which I didn't find very useful.
If the GS build quality is as good as other Samsung's I've had I would be happy. I've always found the build quality excellent, especially compared to SE and Nokia.
However, Samsung haven't been the fasted at updates, so the sooner they confirm Froyo the better.
Anybody had a chance to compare the screen if incredible s vs the dhd? Incredible supposedly has a much better screen that is super lcd. I had a quick comparison in a shop and the difference doesn't seem huge. Maybe sharper because of higher pixel density, but colors, contrast etc were similar.
Otherwise incredible seems like a more balanced version of the dhd, more manageable size, better battery life, lower price.
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Incredible S seems shaper for me, thats it...
Not much difference except in size
Since its a 4 inch screen compared to our 4.3 the screen wil look "sharper". Iv seen but i didnt have my dhd with me, but it looks nice and its definately bright, but no sharper than an x10 or galaxy s
I guess its a matter of preference. Individuals with big hands might prefer DHD over IS.
front facing video camera on the incredible s is a plus
the screen size is a bit smaller than the dhd.. but all the other features are the same , it is no where less in terms of quality or features.. the one major plus point the incredible s has is the front facing 1.3 mp camera..
the front facing camera 1.3 mega pixels for video calling is surely the deal maker
I've read both reviews of the HTC Desire HD and Incredible S from engadget. They say the Desire HD's screen is nothing special, washed out, dull etc. And they say the Incredible S has an excellent screen, brilliant colours, vibrant, and the next best thing behind Retina display and Super Amoled.
So it's quite surprising too see some here say they are virtually identical apart from size.
That being said, if i had the opportunity to swap my phone for the Incredible S, i would because although i like the huge screen on the DHD, it is a little hard to operate with one hand (my hands aren't the biggest).
I also love the look of it.
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I love the design of the back, and i love how there is a little bezel on top of the screen unlike the DHD. Makes it look more balanced. But that's just my opinion.
I tested the Incredible S at a shop recently and I have to admit, the screen looks a bit "sharper", but thats due to the smaller screen size @ the same resolution as the DHD. Colors arent better, in fact, they looked the same. I took out my DHD for a direct comparision and to be honest, besides the smaller screen, the image quality looked almost the same. I really love my Desire HD and wouldnt swap it for the Incredible S if I dont have to. Its a small difference IMO.
The looks are nice, true story. I like the look itself more than the DHD, but thats not a deal maker for me. Front camera is a nice addition, but I know how my friends look like, and if I wanna see them, I try to in person. I am not a fan of video calls, did it a couple of times and it wasnt really something special. And for that, I'd rather use my laptop with the integrated Webcam either way since I got alot more battery power there. So, for ME, the front camera isnt a deal maker as well.
The Incredible S is a great phone nonetheless, and has one or two more features than the Desire HD, but for me, its not worth a swap.
EDIT: One important thing - Isnt the Incredible S one of the new HTC phones that feature the infamous "lockdown" of the bootloader (and therefore custom ROM support) like the Motorola Milestone? If yes, that would be the TOTAL and ABSOLUTE dealbreaker for me. Android is meant to be customized, Android is meant to offer freedom over your pricey smartphone. Things like that destroy the many cool features about Android, and since I am loving to MOD my Device for full capacity, that would be a total no-go here!
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I tested the Incredible S at a shop recently and I have to admit, the screen looks a bit "sharper", but thats due to the smaller screen size @ the same resolution as the DHD. Colors arent better, in fact, they looked the same. I took out my DHD for a direct comparision and to be honest, besides the smaller screen, the image quality looked almost the same. I really love my Desire HD and wouldnt swap it for the Incredible S if I dont have to. Its a small difference IMO.
The looks are nice, true story. I like the look itself more than the DHD, but thats not a deal maker for me. Front camera is a nice addition, but I know how my friends look like, and if I wanna see them, I try to in person. I am not a fan of video calls, did it a couple of times and it wasnt really something special. And for that, I'd rather use my laptop with the integrated Webcam either way since I got alot more battery power there. So, for ME, the front camera isnt a deal maker as well.
The Incredible S is a great phone nonetheless, and has one or two more features than the Desire HD, but for me, its not worth a swap.
EDIT: One important thing - Isnt the Incredible S one of the new HTC phones that feature the infamous "lockdown" of the bootloader (and therefore custom ROM support) like the Motorola Milestone? If yes, that would be the TOTAL and ABSOLUTE dealbreaker for me. Android is meant to be customized, Android is meant to offer freedom over your pricey smartphone. Things like that destroy the many cool features about Android, and since I am loving to MOD my Device for full capacity, that would be a total no-go here!
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Word! I totally agree with you. Ppl buy Android phones for its customization options.. if not, we'd buy the phone with a fruit as a logo.
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Word! I totally agree with you. Ppl buy Android phones for its customization options.. if not, we'd buy the phone with a fruit as a logo.
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Ive had a look at the IS and DHD screens in detail the other day at work and they are fairly similar. However, having 3 DHD in the household, they are all slightly different, a look in HBOOT showed the screen vendor, the best screen in my opinion that was also most similar to IS screen was made by AUO, and the Sharp was not as good...I suspect that maybe all IS screens are made by AUO? AUO for those who dont know is basically under Acer...
samoled screen is the best. galaxy s has it.
samoled screen is the best. galaxy s has it.
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samoled screen is the best. galaxy s has it.
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That is actually not part of the discussion here. SAMOLED is a fine technology, but to be honest: Even tho it features vibrant colors and great contrasts, pictures from people or videos featuring real people suffer from being too vibrant and therefore appear a little "unnatural". I like the vibrant colors of SAMOLED, but I am perfectly fine with the SLCD the DHD offers.
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That is actually not part of the discussion here. SAMOLED is a fine technology, but to be honest: Even tho it features vibrant colors and great contrasts, pictures from people or videos featuring real people suffer from being too vibrant and therefore appear a little "unnatural". I like the vibrant colors of SAMOLED, but I am perfectly fine with the SLCD the DHD offers.
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DHD is regular TFT-LCD, not SLCD. That's why I am surprised that people here say the DHD's screen is similar to the Incredible S.
DHD comes with S-LCD. It was originally decided to be launched with AMOLED, but due to the shortage of AMOLED they decided to come up with S-LCD. Samsung manufactures AMOLED that's why there was a shortage of Galaxy S too.
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Sorry to say mate but you're not correct. The DHD has TFT-LCD. I can understand why you're confused because before the phone was released there was plenty of confusion about what screen it has, many thought SLCD, but eventually it was confirmed by HTC that it is LCD. But even now there still is confusion about the screen type. The good news is that the DHD has a very high quality TFT display. Have a look at this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvHaThf8w30&feature=player_embedded
Also have a look at these pictures, they compare the DHD with the Desire Z which has Super LCD.
You can clearly see that the Desire Z is brighter, more vibrant, has better blacks etc.
Where i work i play with all the newest phones pretty much all day every day, the Incredible S and the DHD and Desire S all have pretty much the same screen, the difference is so minimal it doesn't even merit a conversation, to be honest i've come to like the incredible S quite a bit but besides the front facing camera and the larger battery and difference in screen size it's pretty much the same phone (spec wise) as the Desire HD, given the choice i would still have my Desire HD, losing that .3 of an inch might not seem like much but it really does make a lot of difference, if you wanted a smaller screen then I would go for the Desire S, it's such a sleek phone, but like i said before the difference in screen brightness just isn't worth shouting about.
Check out the optimus 2x and the arc mmmmmm now theyre two nice phones, shame the software lets them down, don't know how companies can allow them great devices go out with such **** launchers on them, if you could get sense on them they would rule over all, especially the optimus 2x ( i know it's off topic, i just wanted have a shout about how nice it is sorry )
Oh and the Desire Z is a nice phone too if you like the sideways flip out keyboard, personally i can't stand it but it's one of the those love it hate it things, just think how often you flip your phone on it's side to use the keyboard, i never do so i would hate having to all the time, but that's just me.
I went into a shop specifically to compare the IS with my DHD as I thought I may consider trading. I came out very happy with the DHD. For me the IS screen is a bit over-saturated, but I think think this is just subjective and depends on what you're used to.
I thought maybe I would prefer the smaller profile as the DHD is a large phone but I am really used to it and it just doesn't feel too big anymore - other phones just feel too small!
The IS didn't feel as solid as the DHD. Although its nice and light the IS felt more plastic for some reason whereas the weight of the DHD is quite reassuring that the build quality is solid.
Also the IS was quite laggy in comparison. It shouldn't be as specs are similar so maybe it needed a reboot or something but my stock DHD was noticeably smoother.
Very happy with the DHD.
I suppose there are two different versions of the dhd screen right? I guess I am lucky enough to have the better version, which looked similar to the incredible s one...
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Hi Nexus S owners,
So am I am torn between the Xperia Arc, or Nexus S as my next phone.
I want to know some real stories here, what do you love about the nexus S, what is not so great?
I made a list of pros and cons of the device, tell me if there is anything I should add
Pros:
seems very stable
updates delivered in a timely fashion
no bloatware
fast
larger internal memory (than Arc)
Cons:
only 16GB storage
camera is not as nice as the Arc
Here are some things I would like to know:
Is there better camera software in the app store that may improve the stock camera?
How is the screen in bright daylight?
In my head, I am leaning towards this phone, mostly because of the lack of carrier/manufacturer "bloatware", and the fact that I will get updates straight from Google whenever they come out. But the main thing that is holding me back is the camera. I am a photographer, and always like to have a camera with me. I can't always carry my DSLR, so I need something that can function as a half decent P&S.
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Hi Nexus S owners,
So am I am torn between the Xperia Arc, or Nexus S as my next phone.
I want to know some real stories here, what do you love about the nexus S, what is not so great?
I made a list of pros and cons of the device, tell me if there is anything I should add
Pros:
seems very stable
updates delivered in a timely fashion
no bloatware
fast
larger internal memory (than Arc)
Cons:
only 16GB storage
camera is not as nice as the Arc
Here are some things I would like to know:
Is there better camera software in the app store that may improve the stock camera?
How is the screen in bright daylight?
In my head, I am leaning towards this phone, mostly because of the lack of carrier/manufacturer "bloatware", and the fact that I will get updates straight from Google whenever they come out. But the main thing that is holding me back is the camera. I am a photographer, and always like to have a camera with me. I can't always carry my DSLR, so I need something that can function as a half decent P&S.
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You should get whatever you want, I'm not going to try to convince you. But I will answer your questions
Camera software: Vignette is the best on the market. It takes fantastic uncompressed pictures and improves ANY camera hardware in my opinion.
Sunlight: I have never seen another phone that is as readable in the sunlight as the Nexus S. The SAMOLED is tailor-made for this. It's miles ahead of any other screen technology when it comes to sunlight visibility. It's one of the strongest features of the Nexus S.
Thanks!
I am merely looking for real user experiences. I still need to go to the store to play around with both of the phones.
Thats good to hear about the sunlight visibility. How do you find the camera on the nexus s? Does the vignette app add touch to focus?
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Thanks!
I am merely looking for real user experiences. I still need to go to the store to play around with both of the phones.
Thats good to hear about the sunlight visibility. How do you find the camera on the nexus s? Does the vignette app add touch to focus?
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Yes it adds touch to focus
I have the SLCD screen on the Nexus S, I've never seen a screen this amazing. It's fantastic in broad daylight, actually, it doesn't even matter in where you use it, it's always legible.
The camera is good, for a 5MP it's really good. It has no digital zoom though, beware, some people want that feature
Greetz
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Thanks!
I am merely looking for real user experiences. I still need to go to the store to play around with both of the phones.
Thats good to hear about the sunlight visibility. How do you find the camera on the nexus s? Does the vignette app add touch to focus?
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The camera is very good. It takes better photos than any other mobile device I have owned (2nd would be Evo 4G which was not bad at all).
Your idea to go play with the phones is a good one. I was only mildly interested in the Nexus S until I was at Best Buy one day and they had one and I got to hold it. There was no turning back. I knew then there was no other phone in the world for me
the version here in canada is the AMOLED one. Digital zoom is not an issue at all
My current phone is a SE C905a, w/ 8mp camera. Camera is a big deal to me, but from what I have seen in reviews, it's not too bad. I even compared the camera's on gsmarena between the arc and the nexus s, and they seem comparable. Minus the fact that the Arc has 720p video
well, despite of low specs, camera is really good, i can't compare with arc camera, but i'm coming from a desire hd (what was announced as best android camera by that time) and i prefer nxs camera, mainly because shots in dark places that is way better, but also, camera in DHD is mostly for still life, because it blur with any movement.
16gb is enought for me, (i used to have 8gb in my dhd it was never full), and now, with google music, the decision must be based in your data plan, if you have an "unlimited" one, you have no problem at all! Said that, i can tell you: what is avalaible for storage is only 13,3gb, don't ask me why.
about screen sunligh, i can't help you, since i have a 9023 (with slcd).
another thing: i really think you should get both in your hand and decide, most things are not in specs lists, they are in how you fell with the phone. eg, i really hate 'haptic feedback' in nexus s and i loved in DHD and that is a thing i can't know without get it in my hand.
and some more things, nexus is a pretty device, looks nice with the screen off, all black, like a monolith. the cuverd screen is really beautiful (besides let it good upon your face).
BUT, the main reason i bought it is to escape of the "race for the best device of the week"... you know what i mean.
sorry for typos and bad engrish! =o)
I got this phone cuz it's Google Nexus series.
There are of course better phones out right now like the Galaxy S2 i believe with dual core or what not. When I got my NS last December, it was a pretty good phone, but if you keep holding out for something better, you'll never buy anything.
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and some more things, nexus is a pretty device, looks nice with the screen off, all black, like a monolith. the cuverd screen is really beautiful (besides let it good upon your face).
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You definitly got a point. A recently cleaned Nexus S is almost a guaranteed buy (or sell, whatever pov ). One of the best looking phones while in stand-by.
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If you care about getting the latest android within a few days after being released, NxS is the only option. Beside that and the pretty looks I think Arc and NxS are pretty much on the same level. If you can't decide because of looks or the immediate updates, compare the price, still no winner, flip a coin, I think you can't go wrong really between NxS and Arc.
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Btw, the non-720p videos (scaled to 720p) shot with NxS look way better then most 720p vids from other smartphones.
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If you care about getting the latest android within a few days after being released, NxS is the only option. Beside that and the pretty looks I think Arc and NxS are pretty much on the same level. If you can't decide because of looks or the immediate updates, compare the price, still no winner, flip a coin, I think you can't go wrong really between NxS and Arc.
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Thats good to hear about the camera. It really is one of the few things holding me back from the nexus s vs the arc.
I do care about the updates, it seems SE has been doing better since the whole thing with the X10. But who knows how long that will last!
I love the looks of both phones. They are totally different looks wise, but both appeal to me. I think making these threads is actually making the decision harder for me! lol, I thought for sure I was going to get the arc, now I am on the fence again...
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Btw, the non-720p videos (scaled to 720p) shot with NxS look way better then most 720p vids from other smartphones.
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that's what i'm talking about, have you seen atrix 1080p videos?! it's awful.
that's a pic with an atrix:
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what do you prefer?! =oP
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I think making these threads is actually making the decision harder for me! lol, I thought for sure I was going to get the arc, now I am on the fence again...
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well, just post same thing in arc forum! =o)
I did!! (click here)
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I did!! (click here)
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after read it, i wanna buy a arc too!! lol..
seriously, whetever device you choose, you'll be fine! just pick one and don't look back... =o)
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after read it, i wanna buy a arc too!! lol..
seriously, whetever device you choose, you'll be fine! just pick one and don't look back... =o)
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Worst thing to do when you bought a technical device. The moment the money has been spend stop looking for alternatives/replacements, that's a vicious circle
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Lol @ the guys on the Arc forums, didn't ease the question for the OP
rentaric said:
Worst thing to do when you bought a technical device. The moment the money has been spend stop looking for alternatives/replacements, that's a vicious circle
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Lol @ the guys on the Arc forums, didn't ease the question for the OP
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I know!
I think I am going to go tomorrow to play with both phones, I still have a week or so until I can get either one...I am becoming obsessive..
Don't make the MISTAKE I did...choose the Nexus S for the love of GOD. Do NOT buy the Arc.
I walked into a Rogers Store thinking I knew how the Arc would handle and feel, playing with a dummy phone WRONG. I bought the thing cash for $700 after tax and a $19 case.
I go home, fire it up and instant regret.
I will list everything wrong with the phone in my opinion:
1. Multitouch is retarded. When you try it out go into gallery and try to pinch to zoom around pics...it will not behave correctly.
2. If you can access the browser, go to a web site that allows you to pinch to zoom and just set your finger tips on the screen motionless...watch as the screen vibrates and goes crazy.
3. Screen is too thin and long. I found typing to be really bad, and SE removed speach to text from the Arc stock keyboard. Also the Arc keyboard is not multitouch.
4. The build quality is much worse than the Nexus S. The back door creeks and makes noises almost everywhere you touch it.
5. The screen IMO looks washed out, but sharp.
6. On 3 bars I dropped a call 5 times in the same call! WTF is that?
7. Arcs screen SUCKS. Its mineral glass with a thick plastic "shatter proof film" on it that not only gets scratched up too fast, but makes the screen a finger print, smudgy mess. Horrible.
Anyways the Arc is so bad I actually took my Arc (that I just had dropped $700 on 2 days before) and traded it for a used/mint Nexus S and I could not be happier. My only regret is that I did not buy the Nexus S first.
Sure the Arc has some nice features like HDMI out (I found useless really) and it does Video nice (I find the Nexus S takes better pics personally)
Go Nexus S or you'll be sorry...I can PROMISE you that...
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Don't make the MISTAKE I did...choose the Nexus S for the love of GOD. Do NOT buy the Arc.
I walked into a Rogers Store thinking I knew how the Arc would handle and feel, playing with a dummy phone WRONG. I bought the thing cash for $700 after tax and a $19 case.
I go home, fire it up and instant regret.
I will list everything wrong with the phone in my opinion:
1. Multitouch is retarded. When you try it out go into gallery and try to pinch to zoom around pics...it will not behave correctly.
2. If you can access the browser, go to a web site that allows you to pinch to zoom and just set your finger tips on the screen motionless...watch as the screen vibrates and goes crazy.
3. Screen is too thin and long. I found typing to be really bad, and SE removed speach to text from the Arc stock keyboard. Also the Arc keyboard is not multitouch.
4. The build quality is much worse than the Nexus S. The back door creeks and makes noises almost everywhere you touch it.
5. The screen IMO looks washed out, but sharp.
6. On 3 bars I dropped a call 5 times in the same call! WTF is that?
7. Arcs screen SUCKS. Its mineral glass with a thick plastic "shatter proof film" on it that not only gets scratched up too fast, but makes the screen a finger print, smudgy mess. Horrible.
Anyways the Arc is so bad I actually took my Arc (that I just had dropped $700 on 2 days before) and traded it for a used/mint Nexus S and I could not be happier. My only regret is that I did not buy the Nexus S first.
Sure the Arc has some nice features like HDMI out (I found useless really) and it does Video nice (I find the Nexus S takes better pics personally)
Go Nexus S or you'll be sorry...I can PROMISE you that...
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Wow, this kind of things is always in the back of my mind when thinking about either one.
Do you think it was the firmware you were using? Not saying you are wrong, but just wondering.
The camera thing intrigues me, on the gsmarena camera compare tool, the nexus s did look a little better at 100% crop. Check it out.
The arc seems to be fuzzier, there is a loss of detail in the 100% crop.......
I will check all that stuff out when I go to physically use the phones, hopefully today.
I hesitated and I finally went with the NS. Reasons:
Unlocked bootloader means custom ROMs
Always up to date software
Fast smooth UI with no carrier or OEM crap on it. I'll load my own crap thank you very much.
This phone will be useable long after SE ditches support for the Arc and relegates it to the scrap heap.
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I hesitated and I finally went with the NS. Reasons:
Unlocked bootloader means custom ROMs
Always up to date software
Fast smooth UI with no carrier or OEM crap on it. I'll load my own crap thank you very much.
This phone will be useable long after SE ditches support for the Arc and relegates it to the scrap heap.
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I don't think you will regret it.. the general attitude I see, and share, is that once you own a Nexus device you really don't want to own anything else. I came from an Epic 4G for example, so the hardware between that and my Nexus S 4G are literally identical. However, the Nexus S runs circles around the Epic which is crippled with the TouchWiz framework.
You really just can't beat AOSP the way Google intended.
IMO, Disappointing "upgrade" to one X.. HD2 Still the king! So, I sold it off and is back to my trusty Good Quality Phone.
If there is anyone that is interested to know why, let me know. will be glad to post the experience here.
why oh why oh why
i was just dreaming of the 1X
We had an X1 on demo, our outcome was buying 20 new Andida cells for current HD2 fleet & aiming at another 12 month+ service life as nothing to offer but a IT hassle changing over to something with no heavy benefits & a big price tag. HTC handsets really need to implement better inovation & some clever reworking of Android ...
You are crazy man.... really.... HD2 is great but one X is the greatest ever....
Personally, I am not big fan of sense unless in the older times of wm6.5. I just favour HTC for their build quality and dev support for custom roms unlike some plasticky builds like ahem*..S*M***G
Honestly I must be blind not to read properly that OneX is polycarbonate.. As far as I remember, their higher end model have excellent built. Sadly, not this one though..
To go deeper..
I am only mentioning stuffs that I would be considered as an "upgrade" over the HD2 . All comments are imo. U may say I am bias but these are my true feelings and experience. My HD2 are usually switching between GB Nand roms in general.
Built quality- Polycarbonate=Plastic most of the reviews and even those in store are the white version which looked better.. but i am true to HTC, which usually produce industrial designs so, white will never be for me.. all my phone are black or dark colour.. I am truly shocked at the quality of the material used.
Screenwise- Honestly, I imagine the screen will be a huge reason for upgrade. 720p, SLCD2, gorilla glass, 4.7in screen etc. BUT, its really does not feel much bigger as the screen ratio makes it taller. I mostly use the phone in landscape so compared to hd2, it really only a few mm wider. abt 3mm at most. I have a HTC Titan as well, absolutely love the screen size and ratio. The only time I love the One X screen is when I am watching a movie on it.. any ****ty grainy video quality looks gorgeous on it!
Processor- Yeah.. so it have a 4+1 core processor, 1GB ram.. HD2 1ghz single core, 512mb ram. Day to day usage, its does feel faster BUT, Just by a few millisecs.. I can live with that.. Free ram for ONE X is pathetic.. 300+mb left after running sense. HD2, 200+ to close to 300mb without sense. (I mentioned b4, I hate sense on android). theres no way a phone can replace a computer for work. Its mostly for adhoc. So, its there really need for such a processor on a phone??
Battery life- Theres no need to comment further.. sucks. People will say that this is normal for a superphone. But imo, if HD2 can do similar function though millisec slower, HD2 is the superphone.
Camera- The biggest letdown imo. Stupid Autofocusing works half the time so what if it have zero lag...
Wifi/3G connection- For some reason, after the phone screen off, the data on both Wifi and 3g sleeps as well. Coz very often, when I wake the phone there will be a error message smthing like this " no network, pls check connection". This means I will be missing emails, whatsapp messages etc that works via data.
Minor irritating things- Super cheap quality headset for Flagship model is a joke.. at least include a in-ear type..pls.. Most of the time, I cant find the volume rocker.. It too darn small.
There are many more that I cant remember...
If I have so many complains, why did I buy this? Because my contract is up and I trust HTC blindly. And the dimmly lit shop doesnt help much either.
I am just glad this overhyped phone is no longer with me.
I am not a troll.. I am just pissed..
Interresting report !
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scpion said:
Personally, I am not big fan of sense unless in the older times of wm6.5. I just favour HTC for their build quality and dev support for custom roms unlike some plasticky builds like ahem*..S*M***G
Honestly I must be blind not to read properly that OneX is polycarbonate.. As far as I remember, their higher end model have excellent built. Sadly, not this one though..
To go deeper..
I am only mentioning stuffs that I would be considered as an "upgrade" over the HD2 . All comments are imo. U may say I am bias but these are my true feelings and experience. My HD2 are usually switching between GB Nand roms in general.
Built quality- Polycarbonate=Plastic most of the reviews and even those in store are the white version which looked better.. but i am true to HTC, which usually produce industrial designs so, white will never be for me.. all my phone are black or dark colour.. I am truly shocked at the quality of the material used.
Screenwise- Honestly, I imagine the screen will be a huge reason for upgrade. 720p, SLCD2, gorilla glass, 4.7in screen etc. BUT, its really does not feel much bigger as the screen ratio makes it taller. I mostly use the phone in landscape so compared to hd2, it really only a few mm wider. abt 3mm at most. I have a HTC Titan as well, absolutely love the screen size and ratio. The only time I love the One X screen is when I am watching a movie on it.. any ****ty grainy video quality looks gorgeous on it!
Processor- Yeah.. so it have a 4+1 core processor, 1GB ram.. HD2 1ghz single core, 512mb ram. Day to day usage, its does feel faster BUT, Just by a few millisecs.. I can live with that.. Free ram for ONE X is pathetic.. 300+mb left after running sense. HD2, 200+ to close to 300mb without sense. (I mentioned b4, I hate sense on android). theres no way a phone can replace a computer for work. Its mostly for adhoc. So, its there really need for such a processor on a phone??
Battery life- Theres no need to comment further.. sucks. People will say that this is normal for a superphone. But imo, if HD2 can do similar function though millisec slower, HD2 is the superphone.
Camera- The biggest letdown imo. Stupid Autofocusing works half the time so what if it have zero lag...
Wifi/3G connection- For some reason, after the phone screen off, the data on both Wifi and 3g sleeps as well. Coz very often, when I wake the phone there will be a error message smthing like this " no network, pls check connection". This means I will be missing emails, whatsapp messages etc that works via data.
Minor irritating things- Super cheap quality headset for Flagship model is a joke.. at least include a in-ear type..pls.. Most of the time, I cant find the volume rocker.. It too darn small.
There are many more that I cant remember...
If I have so many complains, why did I buy this? Because my contract is up and I trust HTC blindly. And the dimmly lit shop doesnt help much either.
I am just glad this overhyped phone is no longer with me.
I am not a troll.. I am just pissed..
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according to you weird logic, old CRT TVs are better then HDTVs
guys go the One X forum and check the tons of user reviews, so many of us are in awe with the One X, there are only the issues of build defects in early batches, everything else its an uber, brisk, super sexy device
HTC at its best
and the camera, well i don't need to argue check the pictures thread and you wills see for yourselves http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1585398 easy as hell to take gorgeous photos
our friend scpion in here is missing the whole point lol
here is a better quick review http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25468262&postcount=3544
Well.. That thread is all abt the best shots that users have taken with the one x camera. Naturally, all the shots will look good.. Mine does not have any hardware related issue and in direct comparison to the HD2, OneX is without doubt better. My point is that, is the One X that great a upgrade from the hd2 ? IMHO, call me strange or fussy, my answer is still no. Neither is it worth all the hype. Its just another phone with better or even great specs but in real life, the performance is subpar.. Entirely imo. Maybe I have too high expectations for it.
Mate,
One X is a great phone! You must've been smoking something special. Comparing the awfull camera of HD2 (mine is already 2 years old) with OX is absolutely ridiculous....
Check this out..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEFWshNQ3ac
I can't believe hTc still have crap software in their new phone. I recall vividly with HD2 the bugs ohhhh the bugs...
Have a Galaxy S now and that is superb...
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEFWshNQ3ac
I can't believe hTc still have crap software in their new phone. I recall vividly with HD2 the bugs ohhhh the bugs...
Have a Galaxy S now and that is superb...
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all the crazy bugs/glitches have been sorted by firmware 1.29, took them less than a month to clear them out
we still have only one issue which is backlight flickering when the phone overheats, seems related to Tegra 3's power saving feature called PRISM, which controls back-light dynamically to save power, HTC said its software and promised an update soon
so please spare me, the fastest and most generous Android updates provider is HTC, most of their end of 2010 devices are receiving the ICS upgrade too
I would have to admit the Note was better liked than he One X when had them on Demo ...
Samsungs efforts on Android seemed better than HTC for most practical phone use.
Sound quality on HTC still is very poor & the build quility & design of the current polycarbonate plastic handsets is not that good, no wonder 2012 sales are down ...
Yeah. With a history of sexy metal outfits on higher end device, I am deeply disappointed. I dun care if its polycarbonate. If its plastic, it just feels plastic.
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Built quality- Polycarbonate=Plastic most of the reviews and even those in store are the white version which looked better.. but i am true to HTC, which usually produce industrial designs so, white will never be for me.. all my phone are black or dark colour.. I am truly shocked at the quality of the material used.
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I love the material, very strong and very light in weight. You might prefer a bakelite phone, but technology has moved on.
Screenwise- Honestly, I imagine the screen will be a huge reason for upgrade. 720p, SLCD2, gorilla glass, 4.7in screen etc. BUT, its really does not feel much bigger as the screen ratio makes it taller. I mostly use the phone in landscape so compared to hd2, it really only a few mm wider. abt 3mm at most. I have a HTC Titan as well, absolutely love the screen size and ratio. The only time I love the One X screen is when I am watching a movie on it.. any ****ty grainy video quality looks gorgeous on it!
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If you want a bigger phone, get the galaxy note.
Processor- Yeah.. so it have a 4+1 core processor, 1GB ram.. HD2 1ghz single core, 512mb ram. Day to day usage, its does feel faster BUT, Just by a few millisecs.. I can live with that.. Free ram for ONE X is pathetic.. 300+mb left after running sense. HD2, 200+ to close to 300mb without sense. (I mentioned b4, I hate sense on android). theres no way a phone can replace a computer for work. Its mostly for adhoc. So, its there really need for such a processor on a phone??
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You only need the speed for games. For the rest, when using an OS/UI a few millisecs make a lot of difference. But if you don't care for that, the HD2 will do just fine. I wonder why you are even considering an upgrade.
Battery life- Theres no need to comment further.. sucks. People will say that this is normal for a superphone. But imo, if HD2 can do similar function though millisec slower, HD2 is the superphone.
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It lasts longer then the HD2, so i don't know what your complaint is. if you want better batterylife, get a Droid RAZR Maxx.
Camera- The biggest letdown imo. Stupid Autofocusing works half the time so what if it have zero lag...
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Again, its alot better than the HD2, and on par with most smartphones.
Wifi/3G connection- For some reason, after the phone screen off, the data on both Wifi and 3g sleeps as well. Coz very often, when I wake the phone there will be a error message smthing like this " no network, pls check connection". This means I will be missing emails, whatsapp messages etc that works via data.
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Probably just a setting, i don't have that problem.
Minor irritating things- Super cheap quality headset for Flagship model is a joke.. at least include a in-ear type..pls.. Most of the time, I cant find the volume rocker.. It too darn small.
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True, its a **** headpiece.
If I have so many complains, why did I buy this? Because my contract is up and I trust HTC blindly. And the dimmly lit shop doesnt help much either.
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I wonder this too, just keep your HD2, 2012 technology just isn't for you.
I agree on Sense thing.
I just don't get why all those manufactuers are trying to make the user 'happier'.
Android is really customizable (unlike iOS ) so one can set his/her system according to personal preferences.
Pr0 users are going to root and install something like CM/AOKP anyway...
So... Why the hell manufactuers can't just release phones with stock unlocked bootloaders + plain, AOSP compiled Android, and whole vendor/build/kernel related stuff?!
I came from an HD2 too.
I take some of these points - but the One X is a evolution of the HD2, not a revolutionary device.
If I had paid NZ$900 for the phone to upgrade from the HD2 I wouldn't be that happy - I agree it probably isn''t worth it. But I took a 'free' upgrade.
But the bottom line is, it is the best Android phone you can buy.
Once the AOSP roms come, i think you will really see the One X pull ahead.
Still awaiting update to OP's blog.What exactly were you expecting from the phone? Holographic video calling? Concierge Service? a BJ whenever you felt randy lol?
I just had to post a reply to this post...
My personal choice was between three hadsets:
HTC One X
Galaxy S3
LG 4X HD
All have basically the same spec with minor variances.
I Pre-Ordered and recieved the One X upon release to great delight...
However, there were a couple of things i didn't like which were:
the 1800mAh battery
the lack of an SD slot
the unibody shell
More power is needed to run a quad-core handset & 4.3" screen comfortably for a day. Although it had 32gb, i currently have a 16gb in my HD2 and it's loaded. I like to be able to change my battery if i needed rather than having to send it of for a repair or smple change...as well as getting easier access to it.
Outside of these gripes, it is a great phone but it didn't hit me as oustanding as the HD2 when it was released.
My Galaxy S3 is also on Pre-order, but that wll come with a 2100mAh battery...which s also accessable. It has an SD slot whch can accomodate 32gb on top of the 16-32or 64gb on the phone.
These alone sell this phone to me and not the Samsung name or the screen which is on par with the One X apart from size...i was hoping HTC had something just a bit better than the One X.
Lastly there's the LG 4X HD not due till approx June...so a long wait.
I can't say owt apart from released specs, and they look good...it's a pity the phone is an ugly bugger.
To conclude, i wouldn't knock the One X comparing it to the HD2 they're a world apart. Although a great phone, the HD2 is outclassed in every way by the new crop of handsets...maybe not with build tho'.
However, in saying that...it's only now that i'm prepared to replace it. this says heaps about the longevity of the HD2. Long may it continue to show how it's done.
you have to be very carful when comparing different OSs across different hardware, several generations apart.
on paper the one x is better in everyway, I don't have one so cant comment on build quality, but I can say the HD2 has issues with the buttons and the digitiser.
however the real question is do you need it?
as you pointed out the 3 YEAR old HD2 runs absolutely fine, running WP in my opinion is as fast as you can get, the limiting factor in the UI is me, I cant move any quicker so having a better CPU or GPU wont make any difference.
So, does a quad core SoC make any difference? nope, not one iota when comparing it to an HD2 with WP and running day to day "phone" tasks
Will it (one x) run games better, of course it will, we have a S1 snapdragon in the HD2, with a very old A200 GPU, but that's irrelevant if you don't play games.
So I guess the question is, is the one x a worthwhile upgrade... for me no its not, will it be worth it for some people, yeah, if games are your thing.
Ive been debating about upgrading my HD2 to a real WP device and I simply cant justify it, and I think that's the point the OP is making, despite 3 years of "progress" there really hasn't been anything worthwhile if games aren't your thing.
Of Course we are talking about Android here, and if you compare android on the two devices then you have a different situation, I don't want to get in to an which OS is better debate but I think we can all agree that Android needs more horsepower to get it running well, if that's progress for an phone OS in your mind then so be it, but, that is that fact of the matter
Ah.. That's the word. " justify". It simply not justifiable to blow $800 to get a new hardware that does things a little faster or better. Theres no wow factor to this phone at all other than the specs. Maybe its not optimised yet, but the first impression is disappointing enough. I have to admit i am quite a htc fanboy but this device does not cut as a flagship. Camera is in a way better but the interface really screw up. Its simply a great challenge to get it to focus on something especially in macro. If u still have to get it done manually, I think this camera has failed. Android and sense combo is simply not a great combo looking at how One X runs on it. It still lags or daydream at times. mind u, hd2 hardware is 3 years old and day to day usage, its still performs well or on par. Screen resolution, colour, brightness on One x is way way better. I am just saying the ratio is wrong imo. If i want a bigger screen than the HD2, i would expect it to be bigger in all directions. And not just taller. i have to admit for HD2, when i am outdoor, i struggles to see the screen, which i really hate. My point is, as another poster has said. OneX is just like a evolution of the HD2. Not a revolution. I would love to one a One X again. But not at this kind of price tag and definitely at at this current stage of development.
To Reckless- i would want a phone to function as a phone. HD2 does just as well with 3 or 4 cores lesser. unfortunately, it doesn't do a bj. If i ever need one, i will pm U.
(Not sure whether this should be posted in Q&A as this topic is not quite related to questions about the arc.)
I've had my arc for, what... 13 months now. The warranty expired about a moth ago. I'm not really the type to change my phones often as I'm not your typical rich arse. My arc, as my tapatalk signature may propose, is quite cracked (I posted pics in another thread) and I doubt I could get a good price for it. But that aside. I'm here to ask you about which phone I should buy next.
My needs have become quite... needy (lol). I have quite a few apps running constantly in the background plus add the widgets on homescreen to that and sometimes a needy foreground app (which basically kills all my other apps). I can't even run the Walkman app for longer time because it just gets killed in the memory for some reason (if I turn off my screen). And sometimes all my apps start closing/restarting, including my launcher, for I don't know what reason. Sometimes my phone is so unresponsive that it's ridiculous. I couldn't answer a call today because the phone app was killed in memory (lol). You might say there's something wrong with the ROM I'm running or something else. Maybe ICS is not the best choice and more of a downgrade on arc if there's some heavier multitasking. But for me, downgrading to GB is just a no-go. Maybe I should give the JB a shot. But doubt that do much of a difference to me.
Don't get me wrong. I like my arc. It's got a very good design (awesomely crappy housing quality aside) It's probably pretty good with a moderate multitasking on GB. But I just feel like I need some more power. And I'm not talking about quads here. A phone with 1GB of RAM and a dual core would probably be more than enough for me. (though today such phones are quite outdated, haha)
So what would you recommend? I'll just help you out a bit and say that there's no way I'd go with a Samsung phone. Also, it has to be Android (no WP, iOS, Bada, and whatever else there is). And expandable memory is a must, as well. Might add something more if I remember.
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Do you want to stick with Sony or will you consider other brands as well? There's a lot of good high end phones from LG, HTC and whatnot (I'll exclude Samsung in this case). Sony did announce three new phones today at IFA (Xperia T, V and J) which retain the arc-like design if you're willing to wait. And there's the Xperia S, P & U, but I'd personally pass on those with what's coming out and what is out right now.
It's really hard to recommend one phone tbh; play around with whatever you can and buy the one that you like best.
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I'm considering other brands as well. Though I have to admit that Sony retains the look and uniqueness, while for instance HTC phones all look quite the same. But I'm willing to bare with the not so unique HTC style if the housing quality is good. But there is one thing with Sony phones that kind of makes me step away and ask myself if I really want to get one again. And that's the screen glass. The arc's screen glass is literally scratch un-resistant. Sometimes the fact just annoys the heck out of me. In comparison to HTC Desire HD, the screen glass of my arc is really horrible. I'm starting to like HTC, whether I liked that fact or not.
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sunbriel said:
I'm considering other brands as well. Though I have to admit that Sony retains the look and uniqueness, while for instance HTC phones all look quite the same. But I'm willing to bare with the not so unique HTC style if the housing quality is good. But there is one thing with Sony phones that kind of makes me step away and ask myself if I really want to get one again. And that's the screen glass. The arc's screen glass is literally scratch un-resistant. Sometimes the fact just annoys the heck out of me. In comparison to HTC Desire HD, the screen glass of my arc is really horrible. I'm starting to like HTC, whether I liked that fact or not.
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Then get Xperia go
Its supposed to be ultra resistant, and its dual core 1GHz.
I can't really advise you which phone to get, because I don't know you screen size preference and budget.
If its in your budget i would recommend a Galaxy Nexus.
1 - Latest android updates
2 - Good Design
3 - High Durability
Just a recommendation
Wait a little........maybe for the google sony nexus.
If it's not coming i'm jumping ship to nexus anyway.
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Then get Xperia go
Its supposed to be ultra resistant, and its dual core 1GHz.
I can't really advise you which phone to get, because I don't know you screen size preference and budget.
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Ah, should've added some more info to the OP. But really it was 3 am or something like that and I was already half asleep (lol). I don't need it to be ultra resistant. I won't be throwing it around. I just need it to be of "normal" resistance. Dropped my boyfriend's phone (Desire HD) a couple of times, it also went flying and fell on the floor and all the things that might happen when your hands are not really that steady. It got no scratches and it took no damage to the housing. While if I did the same to my arc... well, uhm... it would probably shatter all around the place, lol.
About the screen size and resolution. Well, anything between 4.2 and 4.5 inches with resolution of the arc or higher. The budget is not very limited as I've saved some money (just don't suggest a golden phone with a couple of diamonds ). I can also get a tax-free product (which would then be the normal price back there in the States... yeah, my country loves to add to the normal price, lol). For an example, the Galaxy S III in free sale (without a contract, not locked to any carrier) is around $840.
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Ah, should've added some more info to the OP. But really it was 3 am or something like that and I was already half asleep (lol). I don't need it to be ultra resistant. I won't be throwing it around. I just need it to be of "normal" resistance. Dropped my boyfriend's phone (Desire HD) a couple of times, it also went flying and fell on the floor and all the things that might happen when your hands are not really that steady. It got no scratches and it took no damage to the housing. While if I did the same to my arc... well, uhm... it would probably shatter all around the place, lol.
About the screen size and resolution. Well, anything between 4.2 and 4.5 inches with resolution of the arc or higher. The budget is not very limited as I've saved some money (just don't suggest a golden phone with a couple of diamonds ). I can also get a tax-free product (which would then be the normal price back there in the States... yeah, my country loves to add to the normal price, lol). For an example, the Galaxy S III in free sale (without a contract, not locked to any carrier) is around $840.
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Get Note 2.. Best I can see out now.. Or wait to jump on the next Nexus cruise..
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I'm considering other brands as well. Though I have to admit that Sony retains the look and uniqueness, while for instance HTC phones all look quite the same. But I'm willing to bare with the not so unique HTC style if the housing quality is good. But there is one thing with Sony phones that kind of makes me step away and ask myself if I really want to get one again. And that's the screen glass. The arc's screen glass is literally scratch un-resistant. Sometimes the fact just annoys the heck out of me. In comparison to HTC Desire HD, the screen glass of my arc is really horrible. I'm starting to like HTC, whether I liked that fact or not.
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Have you removed the fabric pre-applied anti shatter screen protecter? This scrathes easily and I removed mine after 1 year and now I have a perfect glass screen which is super responsive, allmost like a new phone. Never used any screen protecter as I dislike the poor touch sensitivity.
Please try to install the latest SE stock ICS ROM 4.0.4, this has improved significantly. I cannot say anything about the multitasking, never really been an issue, but for stability stock SE ROMS are perfect. Allways used stock ROMS and never missed a call, this is priority number one with high reliability as it is also my work phone. I am confident that Sony engineers very well know how to optimize the software but some here from xda would probably disagree
go for xperia v , keeps the iconic arc design , has .1 inch bump from 4.2 to 4.3 inch screen... hd display dual core 1gb ram 13mpx stacked cmos sensor , hdr , WATER RESISTANT!
Good LUCK
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Get Note 2.. Best I can see out now.. Or wait to jump on the next Nexus cruise..
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Like I said, Samsung is out of question.
hygge said:
Have you removed the fabric pre-applied anti shatter screen protecter? This scrathes easily and I removed mine after 1 year and now I have a perfect glass screen which is super responsive, allmost like a new phone. Never used any screen protecter as I dislike the poor touch sensitivity.
Please try to install the latest SE stock ICS ROM 4.0.4, this has improved significantly. I cannot say anything about the multitasking, never really been an issue, but for stability stock SE ROMS are perfect. Allways used stock ROMS and never missed a call, this is priority number one with high reliability as it is also my work phone. I am confident that Sony engineers very well know how to optimize the software but some here from xda would probably disagree
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Yeah, I removed it as I was annoyed by it. But still, the screen just shouldn't get scratches out of the blue (I never put it anywhere where it could get them, and the scratches were already there even before I first dropped my phone). And the housing quality is so poor that I'm literally shocked how they could even sell it for such a price (was around $650 a year ago). And I'm not talking about that tiny little crack everyone complained/complains about (see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28003272&postcount=606 - I didn't throw it around for fun to get this "sexy" look, dropped it a couple of times from a very low height).
Well, I don't know about how heavy your multitasking is. I'll tell you what runs on my phone all the time (when the phone is idle, otherwise some or all of these will get killed to make space for a memory hungry app):
AquaMail, IMO messenger beta, Clipper, Color Note, Avast, Nova launcher, BetterBatteryStats, Battery Drain, Volume Control+, Smart Keyboard; widgets: ADW Widget, Aix Weather, UCCW, Elixir 2, Meta widget, stock Browser bookmarks, TuneIn, Minimalistic Text.
Some of them will get killed in memory to make space for something else so not all of them run at the same time (they're mostly in "restarting" state). And now imagine opening an internet browser or a game. What will you get? Instant background app genocide. Even the keyboard dies or freezes.
I think I really need something more.
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go for xperia v , keeps the iconic arc design , has .1 inch bump from 4.2 to 4.3 inch screen... hd display dual core 1gb ram 13mpx stacked cmos sensor , hdr , WATER RESISTANT!
Good LUCK
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Might look around some carrier stores to try it out. But I'm not sure whether it has on-screen buttons or capacitive touch buttons. The first one is a minus for me.
EDIT: checked it out. On-screen buttons.
Hmmm, currently. Have the S, and has dropped it so many time,and it still ok. My old arc housing cracks the first time it falls
But my recommendations is get the V or the Arco S.
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Stay with SONY, as you won't find better design anywhere. Yes, there are some let-downs from time to time, and yes, the hardware specs are not top-notch, but overall, Xperias are the sexiest smartphones out there, so it's not that painful to sacrifice some performance for the sake of good design and appealing UI...
Also, even we (Xperia phones users) complain a lot about some software and hardware unperfections, the other manufacturers are struggling with these or other things too. There is no perfect phone, believe me. I know that because when I collect all my friends in one place, there is wide range of smartphones on the table, from Iphones, to HTCs, to Samsungs, to SONYs (this would be me), and all of them are having some issues.
From terrible lags, to battery drains, to housing mailfunctions, to this, to that...
And let me be more concrete here... My friends Iphone 3GS is lagging so much that it's ridiculous, and my friend is not advanced or heavy user at all. Few applications here and there. My Arc S feels like warp 9 speed when I use it after his phone. And other friends HTC Evo 3D on ICS is also lagging so much (an dual-core phone, remember), that I don't feel my Arc S on ICS is overperfomed at all by that phone... And battery drain is ridiculous on Evo 3D for example, and picture quality is uncomparable with Arc S, cause we have tested it so many times. And so on, and so on...
The point is, you won't find perfect phone out there, and you won't find so dominant phone, that you'll say, ok SONY is ****, I won't be using it anymore.
I'm tech freak, and I play with alot of smartphones on daily basis, and I would hardly change SONY as my favourite smartphone manufacturer.
And yes, like in your case, Samsung is totally out of question. I would never use such crappy and uninspiring design and UI. Market share means nothing to me, and current two market share dominant smartphone manufacturers are both astronomically overrated, and I would never use them before my Xperias.
If you decide to stay with SONY, there is really wide range of new NXT line Xperias to choose from. From S to P to new Arc successors presented few days ago, T, J and V. I don't know, I just can't resist sexiness of Xperia phones.
Sorry for huge post. Pozdrav iz Sarajeva.
Reading your posts, I'd recommend the LG Optimus 4x HD. It's very fast and reasonable priced compared to the One X and SGS3. The design also shouldn't be too bad. Please look for some reviews and keeps us updated!
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what about a full housing replacement??? $24 only
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Stay with SONY, as you won't find better design anywhere. Yes, there are some let-downs from time to time, and yes, the hardware specs are not top-notch, but overall, Xperias are the sexiest smartphones out there, so it's not that painful to sacrifice some performance for the sake of good design and appealing UI...
Also, even we (Xperia phones users) complain a lot about some software and hardware unperfections, the other manufacturers are struggling with these or other things too. There is no perfect phone, believe me. I know that because when I collect all my friends in one place, there is wide range of smartphones on the table, from Iphones, to HTCs, to Samsungs, to SONYs (this would be me), and all of them are having some issues.
From terrible lags, to battery drains, to housing mailfunctions, to this, to that...
And let me be more concrete here... My friends Iphone 3GS is lagging so much that it's ridiculous, and my friend is not advanced or heavy user at all. Few applications here and there. My Arc S feels like warp 9 speed when I use it after his phone. And other friends HTC Evo 3D on ICS is also lagging so much (an dual-core phone, remember), that I don't feel my Arc S on ICS is overperfomed at all by that phone... And battery drain is ridiculous on Evo 3D for example, and picture quality is uncomparable with Arc S, cause we have tested it so many times. And so on, and so on...
The point is, you won't find perfect phone out there, and you won't find so dominant phone, that you'll say, ok SONY is ****, I won't be using it anymore.
I'm tech freak, and I play with alot of smartphones on daily basis, and I would hardly change SONY as my favourite smartphone manufacturer.
And yes, like in your case, Samsung is totally out of question. I would never use such crappy and uninspiring design and UI. Market share means nothing to me, and current two market share dominant smartphone manufacturers are both astronomically overrated, and I would never use them before my Xperias.
If you decide to stay with SONY, there is really wide range of new NXT line Xperias to choose from. From S to P to new Arc successors presented few days ago, T, J and V. I don't know, I just can't resist sexiness of Xperia phones.
Sorry for huge post. Pozdrav iz Sarajeva.
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Yes, I do know that there is no perfect phone out there and, probably, nor will there ever be one. I have to admit I even thought about buying the One X, but I've read a lot of posts about its horrible battery life. So I moved on and put this one aside on the "maybe" shelf.
I checked out some of the new Sony phones, and was sad to notice the on-screen buttons on most of them (I really dislike such buttons). There are maybe two with the capacitive touch buttons, but one has only 512MB of RAM. The other one, however, is Xperia SL - what's the Arc S to Arc, that's the SL to S - a bit of an upgrade. I pretty much like all the specs, so this one might be one of the candidates.
I don't mind long-ish posts as long as they have something good written in there. Pozdrav i tebi iz Zagreba.
sdk16420 said:
Reading your posts, I'd recommend the LG Optimus 4x HD. It's very fast and reasonable priced compared to the One X and SGS3. The design also shouldn't be too bad. Please look for some reviews and keeps us updated!
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I looked it up on GSM Arena and quite liked what was put on the paper. However, when I wanted to check out the price in my country, I couldn't find any store that sells it. I don't know whether it will be available here or not. Maybe I overlooked something, might try searching it again.
Overdose1986 said:
what about a full housing replacement??? $24 only
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Am I supposed to give $24 every time my phone drops on the floor? That's not such a low price. And I doubt I could get it for such a price here where I live, if I could even get it for any price.
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sunbriel said:
Am I supposed to give $24 every time my phone drops on the floor? That's not such a low price. And I doubt I could get it for such a price here where I live, if I could even get it for any price.
Sent from my cracksperia Arc
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Ebay ships free to worldwide
(full white housing with keypad)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Full-Ho...s=63&clkid=1704432372545259337#ht_2949wt_1049
black and silver covers are cheapers (15-24$)
i myself am considering on buying a new phone only because of the arc's cracking flaw. my arc has been with me for a year now and i have utilized it so much to my complete satisfaction. and with a variety of options out there, in my humble opinion, nothing matches sony's design / form factor on their phones specially on the arc. such a thing of beauty. so with that said, i am very much considering on waiting for the international version of the xperia gx which still boasts the arc shape but with beefed up specs. if you're willing to wait for it as well, then consider adding it to your top choices for arc upgrade
Overdose1986 said:
Ebay ships free to worldwide
(full white housing with keypad)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Full-Ho...s=63&clkid=1704432372545259337#ht_2949wt_1049
black and silver covers are cheapers (15-24$)
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But not everyone is good with hardware and part replacing...
However my white Arc S has broken plastic upper-right and lower-right, if I break it somewhere else again and become annoyed I'll probably buy the cover, 24$ is ok price. Lol I wish there is a metal housing for Arc .
My ex-phone was Motorola Milestone (metal+rubber+hard plastic), on its subforum known as "Chuck Norris's phone", it is literally a tank and now I have to watch out on Arc S cause its plastic is so vulnerable... I have it 1 month and soon it'll look older than 3yo MM :/..
Sunbriel, why not on-screen buttons? Never had problems with them on MM, but they were not literally "on screen" (Galaxy Nexus style), just touch buttons under the screen. I hate physical buttons on Arc S...
@Sunbriel i Mr_Torture, pozdrav iz Splita .
If you have some patience left, wait for new "curvy" Arc-like Xperias to come to our market, as they will probably lower down current NXT Xperias prices. Xperia S or SL or P for example... I know you said you don't like on-screen buttons, but we will all have to deal with it in one moment, when we decide to change our Arcs.
If your bugget allows you, wait for this sexy beast to appear on our market, and go for it:
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Or the one you already mentioned, (but the first one is killer design-wise to me):
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